Will Watkins sit out a game?

[uscgrad68]

See the link from upstate



http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120717/WIRE/120719720/1089/sports04?p=2&tc=pg&tc=ar



<<Swinney said Watkins is doing everything he must and more to regain the trust of his coaches and teammates. Swinney promised after Watkins arrest there would be punishment, but says he's still a couple of weeks away from announcing if Watkins will miss any or all of Clemson's opener against 2010 national champion Auburn at the Georgia Dome.


“There's a chance he could play” against Auburn, Swinney said. “Anything's possible.”>>


I believe this is a exercise with a substantially known outcome. At the moment he is thinking, "how slight can I make the punishment so that I am not completely humiliated by the backlash?"

[Lonnie]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lIcb-EzgB_8/TZcyHnHwX3I/AAAAAAAAB1E/HnNoMQyAcRI/s320/IMG_7299.JPG

[tpep]

if abo had a set, potkins would have ALREADY been suspended pending the outcome... since he doesnt have a set- who knows

[Ericvol2096]

I agree, I can't believe a punishment wasn't handed down within a few days of the incident.

[tpep]

its never a good idea for one child to punish another. i'm just saying...

[Rebel4ever]

He'll sit out a meaningless game. Won't be Auburn. Though he should.

[USCgamecocks]

It they were playing some 1-AA directional school week 1 he would be

[SwimCock]

It they were playing some 1-AA directional school week 1 he would be

You mean like Duke, WF, MD, BC or most of the rest of the EZZ? Oh, the fear of facing Pitt and Syracuse the next year.

[Carolina_Harv]

Its sad when even UGA and Richt punishes their guys more than Clemsux! Seriously I want to say I can't believe this but I can and that's just sad!

[USCgamecocks]

You mean like Duke, WF, MD, BC or most of the rest of the EZZ? Oh, the fear of facing Pitt and Syracuse the next year.

You do realize I am a Pitt fan right?

[MillerTime843]

Dabo doesn't have the balls too sit him out! Coaching etiquette sucks!

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

This is pathetic he should have been suspended as soon as the arrest was made, this is why the NCAA should be involved in making sure that people who break the law are punished.

[uscsandstorm85]

I wish he would at least sit out one game, but it's not going to happen. The good side to this is that it reveals how the 2012 Clemson tigers coaching staff views their team. If they can't lose this ONE player for ONE game, they have become a one dimensional football team. He is all they have, and if they lose him to injury, it will not turn out well.

That's why I was fine with marcus' injury last year. It seemed like they were leaning too heavily on him to carry the team. Losing him forced other players to step up and take a part in carrying the team to 11 wins. And guess what: Some of those players returned for another year, with all that experience of shouldering the load TOGETHER, which overall will make this Gamecock team one of the strongest to date. That experience will hopefully keep this team working TOGETHER for a sec and national championship.

[rolinb1]

No...

[Sonofacock]

You do realize I am a Pitt fan right?

Yeah, but Pitt's Foosball program is kinda weak right now.

[seamus]

Its no wonder that Dumbo can't be an effective play caller, its been two and a half months, and he still won't make a decision. Are the inmates running the asylum?

[Carolina_Harv]

Yea but don't mention this to a Clemson fan b/c the first thing they will say is what about Garcia.....Well Garcia actually got suspended from team activities and games! Sammy Potkins got a slap on the wrist and was told to not do it again.....Plus the worse Garcia did if I am not mistaken was commit a misdemeanor nothing close to what Watkins did which could have carried a felony possibility if he got the wrong cop or was in another state!

[USCgamecocks]

Yeah, but Pitt's Foosball program is kinda weak right now.

Just a couple years ago they had the most wins since Dan Marino, last season was much more the exception rather than the rule. The 'stache had the program going in the right direction, 9/10/8 wins his last three years before the shitty AD forced him out.

[SCBLACKDOG]

Do you really expect daba daba doodoo to do the right thing and sit him the first game regardless of the opponent? I hate it when any school sits players in meaningless games for punishment. The punishment should be applied right after the offense wherever that falls.

[Regalcock]

Dumbo actually went on record as saying team leaders should get even a more strict punishment about 70 something days ago and now he is planning on playing him in the Aubie game. He is a complete doucher!

Where are the tater fans in this thread??? What say you fuzzy tails?

[Cockholio]

Dabo is just waiting on Nkemidiche's decision on Sammy's punishment. Probably won't sit any games, but something really harsh, like not allowing Sammy to attend any of the football recruiting poontang parties for a semester or so..

[ucan'tlickourcocks]

Clemsux is a joke! Patently obvious, the ONLY way Clemsux wins.... is if their Offense can out-score the other team....... cause their defense is going to get smoked again this year!

Clemsux might win 3 games if they played in the SEC!

You do realize I am a Pitt fan right?

Oh my God!!!! How could We have missed that!!!! We are SOOOOOO happy for you!

:rotfl::lol::rotfl:

[Spur's Addiction]

I think he will sit one game. But it won't be against Auburn. It will be against some cupcake school.

[IHateOrange]

I think he will sit one game. But it won't be against Auburn. It will be against some cupcake school.

Yep, no way Dabo doesn't let him make that trip to Atlanta.

[Braveguy06]

Who cares

[usc1]

I've got 2 theories as to what he's thinking:

-He wants to wait a little longer until the whole Sammy Potkins thing blows over so there is less backlash. The longer he waits, the less backlash his questionable decision will make. Perhaps he will "make the decision" on a big news day so it won't get much attention.

-He's waiting to look at the matchups against Auburn (when they start gameplanning) to see if he can get away with not playing him.



I think they'll end up suspending him for a game against a crappy team. We know how Dabo disciplines his players/team and that would go along with what he's done at CU.

[brockmartin77]

its never a good idea for one child to punish another. i'm just saying...


:rotfl:

[rt3891]

:rotfl:
Didn't Dabo originally say the first two games or do I have that wrong? It wouldn't surprise me if he backpeddles.

[Skeeter3]

You mean like Duke, WF, MD, BC or most of the rest of the EZZ? Oh, the fear of facing Pitt and Syracuse the next year.

Yea because Vandy, ECU, and UAB to start the season is so brutal. You will finally face a ranked team in UGA in week six, halfway through the regular season. Through the first six weeks Clemson will face two top 25 teams and a top ten team.

[Skeeter3]

This is pathetic he should have been suspended as soon as the arrest was made, this is why the NCAA should be involved in making sure that people who break the law are punished.

They should punish repeat offenders more I think. Like the university that has been on probation the 11th most times in NCAA history, the South Carolina Gamecocks. You got off light this last time.

[rolinb1]

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20120613/PC20/120619644/1038/dabo-swinney-says-star-receiver-sammy-watkins-will-likely-miss-game-action-swinney-says-big-12-a-poor-fit-for-clemson&source=RSS

“Is there a chance he doesn’t miss any time? Probably not,” Swinney said. “I’m not going to make any decision until we get closer to playing time, and the main reason for that is Sammy has a process he has to deal with; some things he has to fulfill this summer. A lot of that is going to depend on how he responds and so far he has hit a home run in every category of how he has responded to this situation.”

[gotrice?]

Yea because Vandy, ECU, and UAB to start the season is so brutal. You will finally face a ranked team in UGA in week six, halfway through the regular season. Through the first six weeks Clemson will face two top 25 teams and a top ten team.

I notice you don't mention the back half of our schedule at all for some reason.

[FeartheSpur]

Yea because Vandy, ECU, and UAB to start the season is so brutal. You will finally face a ranked team in UGA in week six, halfway through the regular season. Through the first six weeks Clemson will face two top 25 teams and a top ten team.



Clemson don't want to play our schedule

[rolinb1]

Yea because Vandy, ECU, and UAB to start the season is so brutal. You will finally face a ranked team in UGA in week six, halfway through the regular season. Through the first six weeks Clemson will face two top 25 teams and a top ten team.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2012/06/phil-steele-2012-college-football-strength-of-schedule-rankings/
football-strength-of-schedule-rankings
The USC 13th
Clemson 49th

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/120
last year final football-strength-of-schedule-rankings
The USC 22nd
Clemson 41st

[HeadCockFan]

who knew? Dabo can use a computer!

[Halltj2]

Won't sit more then a quarter. He wants to know what the team is looking like right before the game. Doesn't want to suspend him for the game and then need him. Basically Dabo's punishment whatever it is will be a joke at this point since he obviously is only considering the game and not the crime.

That being said there needs to be standard punishments in the NCAA to avoid this bologna.

[usc1]

Yea because Vandy, ECU, and UAB to start the season is so brutal. You will finally face a ranked team in UGA in week six, halfway through the regular season. Through the first six weeks Clemson will face two top 25 teams and a top ten team.

The only game on yall's schedule I'd be worried about if it were our schedule would be at FSU. That's it. I feel like 11-1 would be realistic.

We have to go to the swamp, at baton rouge, play a 10 win UGA team from a year ago, an always competitive Mizzou, plus another 10 win Arky team. It really isn't that close.

[imabeastonu]

The only game on yall's schedule I'd be worried about if it were our schedule would be at FSU. That's it. I feel like 11-1 would be realistic.

We have to go to the swamp, at baton rouge, play a 10 win UGA team from a year ago, an always competitive Mizzou, plus another 10 win Arky team. It really isn't that close.
He knows that Clemson wouldnt trade their schedule for ours so idk why he talks aobut it

[imabeastonu]

Yea because Vandy, ECU, and UAB to start the season is so brutal. You will finally face a ranked team in UGA in week six, halfway through the regular season. Through the first six weeks Clemson will face two top 25 teams and a top ten team.
Vandy and ECU are both good teams. Vandy would win 7-8 in the ACC and ECU prob 6. Vandy is a solid team with a great back and good qb. they also have a stingy d. question... would you rather play Vandy or NC state?

[gocockswyn]

The report in the Upstate was that Dabo said he would sit out for the first two games. He will not miss one game. I thought the NCAA had something to say about the type of punishment when the coach does not seem to be doing what is right.

[Carolina_Harv]

They should punish repeat offenders more I think. Like the university that has been on probation the 11th most times in NCAA history, the South Carolina Gamecocks. You got off light this last time.

Why do Clemson fans always feel the need to throw out irrelevant information when we try to point out their flaws.....I swear yall are worse than lawyers! Always trying to weasel you way out of shit and make your client or your team in this case look better by throwing shit out about another team that aint even in question......We try to ask yalls opinion and you just throw out this shit.....Its no wonder why Gamecock fans don't ever talk football with Clemsux fans....They never have anything relevant to add to a conversation!

[cockypanther]

Yeah, but Pitt's Foosball program is kinda weak always.

fixed it for ya.

[cockypanther]

Yea because Vandy, ECU, and UAB to start the season is so brutal. You will finally face a ranked team in UGA in week six, halfway through the regular season. Through the first six weeks Clemson will face two top 25 teams and a top ten team.

Y'all play us and FSU that are tough games. Auburn is decent.. Your schedule is abysmal thanks in part to the laughable automatic qualifying Conference. The gauntlet of wake, duke, Maryland, and Virginia is enough to challenge any top notch team.

[SwimCock]

Dilbert has decided to make Smokin' Sammy forfeit one week's pay for his transgressions, but has improved the incentives so that Potkins can earn that money back.

[Skeeter3]

The only game on yall's schedule I'd be worried about if it were our schedule would be at FSU. That's it. I feel like 11-1 would be realistic.

We have to go to the swamp, at baton rouge, play a 10 win UGA team from a year ago, an always competitive Mizzou, plus another 10 win Arky team. It really isn't that close.

LSU, Arkansas, UGA, Clemson- four toughest games on your schedule.

FSU, SC, VT, Auburn- four toughest games on our schedule.

The rest are mediocre teams that could be good teams but also could not.

The LSU game makes your schedule tougher looking at it right now but most think FSU will be very good this year.

[DELTOR]

LSU, Arkansas, UGA, Clemson- four toughest games on your schedule.

FSU, SC, VT, Auburn- four toughest games on our schedule.

The rest are mediocre teams that could be good teams but also could not.

The LSU game makes your schedule tougher looking at it right now but most think FSU will be very good this year.
You really just called playing at UF "mediocre"?

[cockypanther]

LSU, Arkansas, UGA, Clemson- four toughest games on your schedule.

FSU, SC, VT, Auburn- four toughest games on our schedule.

The rest are mediocre teams that could be good teams but also could not.

The LSU game makes your schedule tougher looking at it right now but most think FSU will be very good this year.

Two things bo... Playing LSU at Tiger Stadium is definitely harder than FSU anywhere. I guess Missouri, Florida, Tennessee are better than 3/4 of your conference... And right now they are 2nd tier teams. The ACC has no top tier teams. If Clemson is the best y'all have to offer, then that says it all.

[usc1]

LSU, Arkansas, UGA, Clemson- four toughest games on your schedule.

FSU, SC, VT, Auburn- four toughest games on our schedule.

The rest are mediocre teams that could be good teams but also could not.

The LSU game makes your schedule tougher looking at it right now but most think FSU will be very good this year.

LSU, Arky (if they don't fail under Smith), and UGA matched up with your top 3 are pretty favorable toward the SEC. Might take VT over Georgia.

But then you look at Fla, Tenn, Mizzou and Vandy compared to Duke, Wake, Virginia, Maryland, BC.. and the depth of the schedule is that much more for USC. NC State and Tech are comparable to Fla (too bad its in the swamp) and Tenn but Mizzou and Vandy are ahead of the other teams listed. That being said I think SC and CU post similar if not the same record this year. What to take away from that jumbled mess is SEC>ACC. No sense in arguing it.

[USCgamecocks]

fixed it for ya.

Pitt always has a weak program? I'm having trouble counting all those NCs and HOFers

[Sonofacock]

Pitt always has a weak program? I'm having trouble counting all those NCs and HOFers

I said lately

[cockypanther]

Pitt always has a weak program? I'm having trouble counting all those NCs and HOFers

36 years ago was Pitt's last NC. Wow soooo good. What about nowadays when the talent pool is greater than its ever been before? What has Pitt done recently? How well do they recruit? How dominant will they be in the ACC??

[SwimCock]

All those NCs - really?! Only 1 in the last ~75 years, and 0 in the last 35 years. That means that you are not that relevant in college football nowadays. Yeah, I know that we have 0 NCs.

Good start, though, quoting ancient history. Pitt will fit in well in the EZZ. Doesn't Syracuse have a bunch of ancient NCs and a looong time ago, the Oranges were RB University but also only has 1 Heisman winner. With all those HoFers, you would think that Pit would have won more recent NCs.

Pitt only has 1 Heisman winner, just like South Carolina. BTW, Tony Dorsett is one of my favorite players of all time.

[GarnetGoggles08]

LSU, Arkansas, UGA, Clemson- four toughest games on your schedule.

FSU, SC, VT, Auburn- four toughest games on our schedule.

The rest are mediocre teams that could be good teams but also could not.

The LSU game makes your schedule tougher looking at it right now but most think FSU will be very good this year.

Lol LSU, Arky, and UGA are all tougher than anyone on your schedule, other than us.

[Coulwoodwarlord]

See the link from upstate



http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120717/WIRE/120719720/1089/sports04?p=2&tc=pg&tc=ar



<<Swinney said Watkins is doing everything he must and more to regain the trust of his coaches and teammates. Swinney promised after Watkins arrest there would be punishment, but says he's still a couple of weeks away from announcing if Watkins will miss any or all of Clemson's opener against 2010 national champion Auburn at the Georgia Dome.


“There's a chance he could play” against Auburn, Swinney said. “Anything's possible.”>>


I believe this is a exercise with a substantially known outcome. At the moment he is thinking, "how slight can I make the punishment so that I am not completely humiliated by the backlash?"
Like I give a shit ! Swinney and Watkins don't concern me.........period.

[USCgamecocks]

All those NCs - really?! Only 1 in the last ~75 years, and 0 in the last 35 years. That means that you are not that relevant in college football nowadays. Yeah, I know that we have 0 NCs.

Good start, though, quoting ancient history. Pitt will fit in well in the EZZ. Doesn't Syracuse have a bunch of ancient NCs and a looong time ago, the Oranges were RB University but also only has 1 Heisman winner. With all those HoFers, you would think that Pit would have won more recent NCs.

Pitt only has 1 Heisman winner, just like South Carolina. BTW, Tony Dorsett is one of my favorite players of all time.

Syracuse has 1 NC (up to 3), Pitt has 9 by major polls and up to 16 depending on which polls you count including '80 and '81
Pitt is tied for the 3rd most HOFers surpassed by only Southern Cal, and Notre Dame with the additions of Coleman and Martin. Syracuse is one behind with 7
Pitt has 3 current All Pros (Revis, Shady, and Lee)
If you are talking ACC, in the Dabo era Pitt actually has more win that Clemson (33 vs 32).
In the last decade they have been to 7 bowl games so more often than not they are good to very good team.

And if you really want to go there Green should have won in '80

Pitt isn't a no-name bum program. They actually help the ACC in competitiveness and name recognition.

[GamecockDad1531]

The answer is NO and here's why. Nemdumbass said that his "commitment" will only be firm as long as Sammy is not made to sit out any games that are in the conference, against another team in a BCS conference, against an in-state team, or on Clemson's schedule. Which is why Sammy will be made to sit out the Sam Houston State game.







Against McNeese State.

[powercock]

Conversation between dabo and Watkins.
Db" gotta sit you out for the first game."
Watkins " hell no!"
Db "ok daddy."

[Jdallen20]

Y'all play us and FSU that are tough games. Auburn is decent.. Your schedule is abysmal thanks in part to the laughable automatic qualifying Conference. The gauntlet of wake, duke, Maryland, and Virginia is enough to challenge any top notch team.

:clap::clap::clap::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rot fl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotf l:

[SwimCock]

Conversation between dabo and Watkins.
Db: "gotta sit you out for the first game."
Watkins: "hell no!"
Db: "calm down. I don't mean football. I meant women's basketball."
Watkins: "ok, then."
Db: "Yeah, Rob Nkemdiche told me to do it that way and already cleared it with the AD, Barker, and Brownell."

[SwimCock]

It appears that Sammy has, so far, been left off of the 2012 Belitnikoff list. Not sure, but Dilbert has ranted about it lately. I guess that they do not appreciate weed and pill addicts who break the law.

[Ballpoint Man]

Syracuse has 1 NC (up to 3), Pitt has 9 by major polls and up to 16 depending on which polls you count including '80 and '81
Pitt is tied for the 3rd most HOFers surpassed by only Southern Cal, and Notre Dame with the additions of Coleman and Martin. Syracuse is one behind with 7
Pitt has 3 current All Pros (Revis, Shady, and Lee)
If you are talking ACC, in the Dabo era Pitt actually has more win that Clemson (33 vs 32).
In the last decade they have been to 7 bowl games so more often than not they are good to very good team.

And if you really want to go there Green should have won in '80

Pitt isn't a no-name bum program. They actually help the ACC in competitiveness and name recognition.


Uh oh. This looks suspiciously similar to the kind of reasoning that Clemson fans like to throw out.

History is nice, but unless you're Notre Dame, Alabama or Southern Cal - you're making a weak argument for relevancy. Win games today and we'll respect you. If you end up middle of the pack in the ACC... then we'll laugh at you.

Simple. As. That.

[powercock]

Conversation between dabo and Watkins.
Db: "gotta sit you out for the first game."
Watkins: "hell no!"
Db: "calm down. I don't mean football. I meant women's basketball."
Watkins: "ok, then."
Db: "Yeah, Rob Nkemdiche told me to do it that way and already cleared it with the AD, Barker, and Brownell."

:clap:

[tpep]

You do realize I am a Pitt fan right?
we'll try not to hold that against you:lol:

[I Bleed Garnet]

If aint da SEC den it don't matter.

Pitt fan pa tooey. (that's me spittin')

[cockypanther]

Syracuse has 1 NC (up to 3), Pitt has 9 by major polls and up to 16 depending on which polls you count including '80 and '81
Pitt is tied for the 3rd most HOFers surpassed by only Southern Cal, and Notre Dame with the additions of Coleman and Martin. Syracuse is one behind with 7
Pitt has 3 current All Pros (Revis, Shady, and Lee)
If you are talking ACC, in the Dabo era Pitt actually has more win that Clemson (33 vs 32).
In the last decade they have been to 7 bowl games so more often than not they are good to very good team.

And if you really want to go there Green should have won in '80

Pitt isn't a no-name bum program. They actually help the ACC in competitiveness and name recognition.

I think you are actually an undercover Clempson fan the way you are living in the past arguing how Pitt is relevant in today's game. What have they done in the last 20 years? How many teams get Pitt on their schedule and think "oh shit, we have to play Pitt soon." exactly...

[HUGEGARNETCOCK]

I will be very surprised if Blabbo grows a set. On the other hand he still hasn't hit puberty!

[ertman420]

Potkins will be suspended for a quarter or so, watch.

[david_in_easley]

On their upstate radio show yesterday, 104.9, one of their afternoon hosts, Roy Philpot, pretty much said that he thinks Potkins will only sit 1/2 game against Auburn...because Auburn is such an important game that can set the tone for the remainder of the season (i.e., how Alabama blew out Clemsux a few years ago when they were preseason #9 and their season sucked after that loss).

Basically, IF he were to miss an entire game, it would be the following week against Ball St or UAB (whichever is next on their schedule).

[wumarshall82]

Watkins will sit out this year... When the D is on the field! :rotfl:

[carolinafan111]

Watkins will sit out this year... When the D is on the field! :rotfl:

truer words have never been spoken. he has already missed 3 Clemson baseball games. If he sits out 3 volley ball games, 2 men's basketball games, 2 underwater basketweaving lessons, and 4 of the 12 half times this year, he should be good to go.

In other news, why in the world is there a 20 comment argument on Pitt Panther football.. :rotfl::rotfl:

[wumarshall82]

Dan Marino would be top heisman contender if he was playing today. Fo sho'!

[I Bleed Garnet]

If I was a Clemson fan I wouldn't want him to sit out any games.
But I'm not so the point is moot.

[86 GradCock]

The good news is there is no way for Clemsux to turn this into a positive. Go light on the punishment and parents of future recruits see a program more focused on winning than on the development of it's student athletes. Go heavy on the punishment and take probable losses that will kill a promising season and set back the momentum they have developed over the past couple of years.

Dabo was stupid to wait on setting the punishment. That damage is already done. You would think the university would have a standard punishment scenario established for this all too common offense. Equal enforcement of the penalty is the only way to move forward, regardless of who the offender may be.

[hellraiser24]

This is his first time offense, so I think a half game suspension is reasonable. A full game might be too much.

[carolinafan111]

This is his first time offense, so I think a half game suspension is reasonable. A full game might be too much.

how is sitting out 1 game for being arrested sitting out too much? He had two illegal substances in his possession.

[longcock]

He sits out a half, maybe just one quarter.

I just don't see Dabo sitting him the entire game.

[wumarshall82]

The good news is there is no way for Clemsux to turn this into a positive. Go light on the punishment and parents of future recruits see a program more focused on winning than on the development of it's student athletes. Go heavy on the punishment and take probable losses that will kill a promising season and set back the momentum they have developed over the past couple of years.

Dabo was stupid to wait on setting the punishment. That damage is already done. You would think the university would have a standard punishment scenario established for this all too common offense. Equal enforcement of the penalty is the only way to move forward, regardless of who the offender may be.

You are making too much out of this. No recruit would care nor their parents. Most people minus Clemson/USC fans have already forgot about it.

Most universities don't do anything harsh on a 1st offense misdemeanour drug possession. Take some classes and that is about it.. Maybe probation of some sort? 2nd offenses are a different story.(my nephew got caught with weed in his dorm..)

[carolinafan111]

You are making too much out of this. No recruit would care nor their parents. Most people minus Clemson/USC fans have already forgot about it.

Most universities don't do anything harsh on a 1st offense misdemeanour drug possession. Take some classes and that is about it.. Maybe probation of some sort? 2nd offenses are a different story.

except USC when we suspend our players immediately for the first positive test... but if we hadn't tigernet would be blowing up right now.

[jch81]

The thing that gets me is Dabo wont say anything almost like he wants Auburn to prepare for Sammy even though he may not play. Just have to wait and see. After waiting this long I think he will sit for a half.

[hellraiser24]

how is sitting out 1 game for being arrested sitting out too much? He had two illegal substances in his possession.

I was going off of what the normal suspension is for incidents like this. I am with you and think he should be suspended for more than a half, but schools have become very lax with their suspensions so I doubt you seem Clemson not follow the trend.

I hate to bring it up, but since we are on the topic of suspensions. Does anybody remember what Devonte's suspension was?

[FloydTheBarber]

The thing that gets me is Dabo wont say anything almost like he wants Auburn to prepare for Sammy even though he may not play. Just have to wait and see. After waiting this long I think he will sit for a half.

Was it you or a different clemson poster that guaranteed that Watkins would set out at least one game, more than likely 3?

[wumarshall82]

I think when the incident happens has a lot to do with punishment.

Bellamy was sent home immediately when he was caught in Charlotte before the ACC Champ game. An incident that happens in the off season is different.

[Mick Chicken]

I think when the incident happens has a lot to do with punishment.

Bellamy was sent home immediately when he was caught in Charlotte before the ACC Champ game. An incident that happens in the off season is different.

That's funny...most clemson fans had a much different opinion when Garcia got in trouble during the off season. And wasn't Bellamy smoking weed in the team hotel?

[carolinafan111]

I think when the incident happens has a lot to do with punishment.

Bellamy was sent home immediately when he was caught in Charlotte before the ACC Champ game. An incident that happens in the off season is different.

it shouldn't if your coach had any balls that is.

[wumarshall82]

That's funny...most clemson fans had a much different opinion when Garcia got in trouble during the off season. And wasn't Bellamy smoking weed in the team hotel?

I believe he was. Clemson could've made that a hush hush situation but they didnt.

When did Garcia sit out and was it after a 1st offense?

[Mick Chicken]

I believe he was. Clemson could've made that a hush hush situation but they didnt.

When did Garcia sit out and was it after a 1st offense?

He missed spring and summer workouts which ultimately led to him having to redshirt that year. But he also was not arrested for any drug charges, Ladi Ajiboye was and missed 3 games (his was in the off season). And clemson did make that a hush hush situation...it didn't come out until later and i'm sure dabo wasn't the one who made it public. He should have been kicked off the team right then..the fact that dabo just sent him home speaks to the exact joke of a discipline system that is in place up there. It's laughable. And who cares honestly...if dabo wants to be a spineless chump and let his players do as they wish then that is his deal..but the fact that clemson fans actually have the balls to say ANYTHING about how Spurrier handles his players proves how absolutely delusional they are.

[hellraiser24]

I believe he was. Clemson could've made that a hush hush situation but they didnt.

When did Garcia sit out and was it after a 1st offense?

Clemson does make a lot of things hush hush, you have to admit. It is easier to do that when your football team is in a small town. In other words, the cops are most likely Clemson fans so they will be lenient with the Clemson athletes. That is how a lot of small towns operate.

[SR4-AJ1]

I was going off of what the normal suspension is for incidents like this. I am with you and think he should be suspended for more than a half, but schools have become very lax with their suspensions so I doubt you seem Clemson not follow the trend.

I hate to bring it up, but since we are on the topic of suspensions. Does anybody remember what Devonte's suspension was?

I know he sat the entire first game against ECU Idk if he had anything after that though

[cockypanther]

You are making too much out of this. No recruit would care nor their parents. Most people minus Clemson/USC fans have already forgot about it.

Most universities don't do anything harsh on a 1st offense misdemeanour drug possession. Take some classes and that is about it.. Maybe probation of some sort? 2nd offenses are a different story.(my nephew got caught with weed in his dorm..)

You do realize he possessed a controlled substance without a prescription? That in iteself is illegal along with the possesion of pot. I thought the NCAA had a zero tolerance policy with students possessing a controlled substance? I guess not..

[carolinafan111]

You do realize he possessed a controlled substance without a prescription? That in iteself is illegal along with the possesion of pot. I thought the NCAA had a zero tolerance policy with students possessing a controlled substance? I guess not..

no, they have one tolerance. and that is to potkins :lol: yes i know others have gotten away with it too, it's a joke people

[hellraiser24]

I know he sat the entire first game against ECU Idk if he had anything after that though

Thank you for answering that. Spurrier is pretty good with giving adequate punishments, so I guess getting arrested for your first time equals a one game suspension with Spurrier. I brought up Devonte because he was arrested during the summer like Sammy.
It is not fair to compare the Sammy Watkins incident to Garcia's incidents because Garcia was arrested before spring practices, so his punishment was delivered during those. And then his offenses that occurred during or prior to the season were very petty so a strict punishment was not needed.

[cockypanther]

no, they have one tolerance. and that is to potkins :lol: yes i know others have gotten away with it too, it's a joke people

Yeah that is becoming evident. NCAA... what a joke.

[Dbrown1044]

South carolina university or usce or uscjr would have suspended him for the next spring football. Yall quit your whining. Yall aint got know room to talk

[carolinafan111]

South carolina university or usce or uscjr would have suspended him for the next spring football. Yall quit your whining. Yall aint got know room to talk

this post is full of fail.

both factually, and grammatically.

[hellraiser24]

South carolina university or usce or uscjr would have suspended him for the next spring football. Yall quit your whining. Yall aint got know room to talk

Please tell me you didn't graduate from a public high scool in South Carolina.

[Mick Chicken]

South carolina university or usce or uscjr would have suspended him for the next spring football. Yall quit your whining. Yall aint got know room to talk


Wow.

[cockypanther]

South carolina university or usce or uscjr would have suspended him for the next spring football. Yall quit your whining. Yall aint got know room to talk

Why hello there troll... you must be from climpson what with that great mastery of the english language you just displayed.

http://www.shinyshiny.tv/troll.jpg

[FloydTheBarber]

South carolina university or usce or uscjr would have suspended him for the next spring football. Yall quit your whining. Yall aint got know room to talk

I love it when Clemson fans show up and put their ignorance and stupidity on full display.

For that- we thank you.

[RoosterBooster]

I believe he was. Clemson could've made that a hush hush situation but they didnt.

When did Garcia sit out and was it after a 1st offense?

Dabo doesn't have the balls to give Watkins the same punishment Garcia received. Go ahead Dabo, force him to redshirt this season.

[airborne09]

South carolina university or usce or uscjr would have suspended him for the next spring football. Yall quit your whining. Yall aint got know room to talk


stay on southern cals boards..we are the university of south carolina aslo known as USC..there is no E nor a damn jr...

[carolinafan111]

also, to answer the question this thread posts:

no

[yazoo]

LSU, Arkansas, UGA, Clemson- four toughest games on your schedule.

FSU, SC, VT, Auburn- four toughest games on our schedule.

The rest are mediocre teams that could be good teams but also could not.

The LSU game makes your schedule tougher looking at it right now but most think FSU will be very good this year.

Florida, UT, MSU, and Missouiri are all far better teams than Clemp.

[mick66]

South carolina university or usce or uscjr would have suspended him for the next spring football. Yall quit your whining. Yall aint got know room to talk
Says this guy...
https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIba_TxMd5M3z5z003Csn1cw4G9aYh9 4bQHqBRqLvXD8OlN9HQFw

[Skeeter3]

Florida, UT, MSU, and Missouiri are all far better teams than Clemp.

Lol.

[FloydTheBarber]

Lol.

Come back and talk to us when you dont get dominated by a weak NCSU team, and need a blown call by the official to come back and squeak one out against Wake. (for reference- that blown call was the TD reception by an ineligible receiver)

[Mick Chicken]

Lol.

Do you dispute that? I would even say vandy could win the acc this year

[Mick Chicken]

Come back and talk to us when you dont get dominated by a weak NCSU team, and need a blown call by the official to come back and squeak one out against Wake. (for reference- that blown call was the TD reception by an ineligible receiver)

And lest we not forget that amazing come from behind win to beat.....


....maryland

[cockypanther]

And lest we not forget that amazing come from behind win to beat.....


....maryland


HEY! Maryland is a very respectable football program... oh wait no they aren't. Went 2-10 last year. Yikes. :lol:

[usctiburon03]

And lest we not forget that amazing come from behind win to beat.....


....maryland

Yeah but we won the National Championship in 1981. So when you guys win one then you can talk.........

Figured I would throw it out there before a clemson nut does.

[Mick Chicken]

HEY! Maryland is a very respectable football program... oh wait no they aren't. Went 2-10 last year. Yikes. :lol:

Hey, they have won as many high and mighty acc "titles" as clemson in the last 20 years too hahaha

[Skeeter3]

Do you dispute that? I would even say vandy could win the acc this year

Using coot logic Clemson beat FSU, FSU beat Florida, so Clemson>Florida, right?

We blew UNC out an they gave Missouri a decent game, so it's very safe to say Clemson is better than Missouri.

Saying UT or MSU is better than Clemson is just laughable.

[carolinafan111]

Using coot logic Clemson beat FSU, FSU beat Florida, so Clemson>Florida, right?

We blew UNC out an they gave Missouri a decent game, so it's very safe to say Clemson is better than Missouri.

Saying UT or MSU is better than Clemson is just laughable.

it was 31-10 at half time... what kind of decent game are you talking about.

again, you have a picture of Sammy Potkins in your profile picture, what do you know about logic. "Coot fans" don't need to use that logic as we beat the teams we play.

[Emery]

Clemson had 33 pass TDs-12 to Watkins, he also had 1 KR TD. He alone accounted for 23 % of their total touchdowns.

Dabo is not going to sit 1/4th of their offense.

[Mick Chicken]

Using coot logic Clemson beat FSU, FSU beat Florida, so Clemson>Florida, right?

We blew UNC out an they gave Missouri a decent game, so it's very safe to say Clemson is better than Missouri.

Saying UT or MSU is better than Clemson is just laughable.


Well using clemson logic.. where everything is past-tense..I guess so. We are talking about the upcoming season. The acc is a joke of conference right now

[cockypanther]

Using coot logic Clemson beat FSU, FSU beat Florida, so Clemson>Florida, right?

We blew UNC out an they gave Missouri a decent game, so it's very safe to say Clemson is better than Missouri.

Saying UT or MSU is better than Clemson is just laughable.


You have a great name for this board by the way. Skeeter3 = how many times Carolina has skeeted on clemmons the past three years.

[Skeeter3]

Well using clemson logic.. where everything is past-tense..I guess so. We are talking about the upcoming season. The acc is a joke of conference right now

I don't pull for the ACC.

[I Bleed Garnet]

U mad bro?

(Insert pictures of OUR 6 national titles- too much work to do it on my phone)

[Mick Chicken]

I don't pull for the ACC.

Nobody does...unless we're talking basketball

[Carolina_Harv]

Using coot logic Clemson beat FSU, FSU beat Florida, so Clemson>Florida, right?

We blew UNC out an they gave Missouri a decent game, so it's very safe to say Clemson is better than Missouri.

Saying UT or MSU is better than Clemson is just laughable.

So yall beat Auburn last year but we lost to them and then destroyed you guys so using your logic that you say we use well now its just all sorts of f'ed up aint it?


Not to mention ppl that use this logic are just stupid b/c teams gameplan different for different teams so just because you beat a team that beat another team does not mean you are better it just means you beat a team not the other team that they beat.....Its flawed logic no matter how you look at it!

[Legalman72]

MSU and UT are easily better than Clemson. They both played us tough. We toyed with Clemson...a very weak sister team.

I really think Vandy v Clemson would be close.

[USCgamecocks]

I think you are actually an undercover Clempson fan the way you are living in the past arguing how Pitt is relevant in today's game. What have they done in the last 20 years? How many teams get Pitt on their schedule and think "oh shit, we have to play Pitt soon." exactly...

This thread isn't about Pitt but if people are going to take shots at my team I am going to shoot back.

[Carolina_Harv]

This thread isn't about Pitt but if people are going to take shots at my team I am going to shoot back.

Understandable but the original comment was not meant to offend you but you took it personally.

[cockypanther]

This thread isn't about Pitt but if people are going to take shots at my team I am going to shoot back.

Not trying to get personal, just stating the fact that Pitt football over the last 2 decades (especially the past 10 years) has been nothing. Have they produced some good players, yes they have in Fitzgerald, Revis, and McCoy, but team wise... they have done nothing.

[Carolina_Harv]

Not trying to get personal, just stating the fact that Pitt football over the last 2 decades (especially the past 10 years) has been nothing. Have they produced some good players, yes they have in Fitzgerald, Revis, and McCoy, but team wise... they have done nothing.

Yea no one was arguing the past with ya man its like when we mess with Clemsux fans saying we won the last 3 and all they can do is quote the overall record between the two teams.....

[USCgamecocks]

Not trying to get personal, just stating the fact that Pitt football over the last 2 decades (especially the past 10 years) has been nothing. Have they produced some good players, yes they have in Fitzgerald, Revis, and McCoy, but team wise... they have done nothing.

If you are just going by the facts they have been to 7 bowl games in the last 10 years including a BCS game, won 10 games and finished top 15 in '09, and were Big East co-champs twice.

In the last 10 years they had 1 10 win season, 2 9 win seasons, and 3 8 win seasons. Overall an average of 7.4 a season. That may not be NCs but its not nothing either.

[MOB49]

More to your point. Clemson had 54 total TD last year. 21 rushing, 33 passing.

If they sit Watkins, there goes 12 TD, but they also lost Allen who had 8 TD.
So for 2 players that's 20 of 33 TD, 60% of there offense in passing, 37% overall. Not to mention his 32 rushing attempts.

What a pathetic coach. You can tell so much about a person by how they react to situations that but them in a tough spot. Dabo folded under pressure.

Clemson had 33 pass TDs-12 to Watkins, he also had 1 KR TD. He alone accounted for 23 % of their total touchdowns.

Dabo is not going to sit 1/4th of their offense.

[SwimCock]

7.4 average wins in the Big lEast is not that impressive. Neither are BiglEast championships and Big lEast BCS games, unless you are playing Clemsux because then there is a good chance for another record setting loss by the taters. Regarding NCs, I (and most others) was going by the NCs recognized by Pitt on its banner (on your signature line). If Pitt does not recognize it, then no one really does either.

It's all OK, though, as I will be pulling for Pitt in all of its games against Clemsux, GT, Not Carolina, Duke, Vagina, Syracuse, and probably Miami and FSU. My college roommate was from McKees Rocks and we are still close. I actually like Pitt, but no longer consider it very relevant in college football right now (and for the past ~30 years). I am a Miami Dolphin fan and Miami native and have a Marino (one of my favs) autographed jersey in my house.

[Carolina_Harv]

If you are just going by the facts they have been to 7 bowl games in the last 10 years including a BCS game, won 10 games and finished top 15 in '09, and were Big East co-champs twice.

In the last 10 years they had 1 10 win season, 2 9 win seasons, and 3 8 win seasons. Overall an average of 7.4 a season. That may not be NCs but its not nothing either.

Your BCS bowl was a Big East Co-Champion year with an 8-4 record.........

[USCgamecocks]

I forgot things that happen outside off the sec don't count, my bad

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

^Its true the ACC and Big Least don't count period unless you want to compare who has the biggest history of mediocrity.

[cockypanther]

More to your point. Clemson had 54 total TD last year. 21 rushing, 33 passing.

If they sit Watkins, there goes 12 TD, but they also lost Allen who had 8 TD.
So for 2 players that's 20 of 33 TD, 60% of there offense in passing, 37% overall. Not to mention his 32 rushing attempts.

What a pathetic coach. You can tell so much about a person by how they react to situations that but them in a tough spot. Dabo folded under pressure.

Good info here. Clemson have some talented receivers too I don't know what their deal is whether they don't put in all of the effort or it's coaching. Not sitting ol smokin sammy though will put an even clearer message that daybo and his team are junk.