iPhone News/Talk Thread

[womfalcs3]

The lower-end model will go for $500 while the higher-end one (4 more GB in flash storage) will go for $600.

On top of that, the monthly rates are going to be disastrous.... at least for me.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/06/iphoneplans.jpg



I'm the kind of guy who opts for the free phone with the 2-year contract and pays for the cheapest plan.

With the iPhone, the 2-year contract includes no discount on the $600 and a minimum rate of $60 per month. You do get a full web browser/e-mail and great phone functionality (although no 3G).


I do love the phone though. I get a sense of excitement when I see it. I also smile at the fact Apple is forcing you to use iTunes to activate your phone. You have to have an account.

[happygilmore527]

That's not too bad I guess. Although I'm with you. I get the free phone and the cheap plan. Having a full browser does take the sting off of it though...It's still more than most the other plans I imagine.

[The Dude]

I am one who believe buying any new technology when it is first introduced is a bad idea.
Let other people test drive this thing, get the kinks worked out, and THEN i'll consider getting a revised model.

[happygilmore527]

Yeah, me too. I'm with Verizon too...so it will probably be awhile before the phone is offered with them. Hopefully that time my plan will be up and I could potentially get an Iphone...maybe.

[APalmetto10]

I'm happy with my Samsung

[CoolCockyChick]

The lower-end model will go for $500 while the higher-end one (4 more GB in flash storage) will go for $600.

On top of that, the monthly rates are going to be disastrous.... at least for me.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/06/iphoneplans.jpg




I'm the kind of guy who opts for the free phone with the 2-year contract and pays for the cheapest plan.

With the iPhone, the 2-year contract includes no discount on the $600 and a minimum rate of $60 per month. You do get a full web browser/e-mail and great phone functionality (although no 3G).


I do love the phone though. I get a sense of excitement when I see it. I also smile at the fact Apple is forcing you to use iTunes to activate your phone. You have to have an account.





Only 200 text messages?!?! Wouldn't work for me ..... I text on mine more than I talk!

[womfalcs3]

Only 200 text messages?!?! Wouldn't work for me ..... I text on mine more than I talk!

There are two more plans below that picture that weren't shown. It's there when you activate your phone though.

The plans are both over 100 dollars/month, but one of them allows unlimited SMS text messages (Could be other things too).

[Drunkeneskimofo]

I've never sent a text message with a phone in my life.

[ColaCock]

I've never sent a text message with a phone in my life.

Wow. I text anywhere from 800-1200 text messages a month. My package with Alltel is 109.99 a month and I get 1200 anytime minutes, unlimited data, unlimited text, nights start at 7pm, and full insurance on the phones. I have a Treo 700wx and love it...would never buy a regular phone again, or a phone without touchscreen- once you have it, you don't want to go back!

I also pay for my mother's phone as well, she shares my minutes...and we never go over. In fact, I probably only talk about 250 a month...I hate talking on the phone.

[resinomer]

For an extra $10/month you go to 1500 SMS, for $20 unlimited.

[WeHailTheeCarolina]

Only 200 text messages?!?! Wouldn't work for me ..... I text on mine more than I talk!

That's exactly what I was thinking....

[Gamecock Scott]

Only 200 text messages?!?! Wouldn't work for me ..... I text on mine more than I talk!

I haven't received any of your texts.:lol: :lol: :lol:

[CoolCockyChick]

For an extra $10/month you go to 1500 SMS, for $20 unlimited.

I pay the $19.95/mo for the unlimited texting, picture messaging, and internet access. It's worth the $20. I don't have a fancy Treo like Cola, but my Razor works just fine (and it looks good with it's Carolina cover!!!). I have a family package since I have three lines on my account (my dad and bro are the other two). We share 2100 min/mo and it's a national plan since I travel out of state for work often throughout the year. So I have no roaming charges. I think our plan is $99.99/mo, PLUS the $19.95 for my line and another $19.95 for my bro's line for us to have the unlimited texting, etc. I'm the texting queen! :cocky:

[CoolCockyChick]

I haven't received any of your texts.:lol: :lol: :lol:


Only the chosen ones get texts from me!

:lol:

[clemson sucks]

I have this Nokia phone thats broken and I want an iPhone. Maybe the price will go down in a few months.

[smoovecock]

just call me the choosen one....

[Spur's Addiction]

I've never sent a text message with a phone in my life.
What's texting?

Seriously - If I need to get a hold of someone I just call them. If someone texts me I call them back on the phone. I can talk much faster then I can type on that silly number pad.

[CoolCockyChick]

What's texting?

Seriously - If I need to get a hold of someone I just call them. If someone texts me I call them back on the phone. I can talk much faster then I can type on that silly number pad.

You'd be surprised at how easy it is once you get used to it. I text mainly when I'm in a meeting or somewhere where I can't really talk.

[CoolCockyChick]

Or if I want to flirt with a guy and am too shy to call him

:lol:

[Gamecock Scott]

Or if I want to flirt with a guy and am too shy to call him

:lol:


CCC - You aren't shy, are you?

[CoolCockyChick]

CCC - You aren't shy, are you?

Who?? Me?? :lol:

[APalmetto10]

I've never sent a text message with a phone in my life.

I average about 2500 a month

[Gamecock Scott]

I average about 2500 a month

2500 a month??? How do you have time to talk with that many text messages?

[TheMule]

I am one who believe buying any new technology when it is first introduced is a bad idea.
Let other people test drive this thing, get the kinks worked out, and THEN i'll consider getting a revised model.

Amen to that. Plus the price will be lower. I refuse to even look at Windows Vista for another 6 months.

[TheMule]

You'd be surprised at how easy it is once you get used to it. I text mainly when I'm in a meeting or somewhere where I can't really talk.

CCC = Clandestine Cocky Chick

[CoolCockyChick]

CCC = Clandestine Cocky Chick

I like!

[ColaCock]

2500 a month??? How do you have time to talk with that many text messages?

It's actually quite easy, I have hit that high a few times...and believe it or not, faster than just calling them. I hate talking on the phone and beating around the bush when on the phone...or someone saying "hold on" or anything else they want to blabber about. I can get straight to the point with my text and they can reply at their convienience and be to the point. To be honest, if they offered a plan with nothing but texting and like 100 minutes of talk a month with unlimited data...I'd go right for it.

Talking on the phone is so 1990's.

[ColaCock]

What's texting?

Seriously - If I need to get a hold of someone I just call them. If someone texts me I call them back on the phone. I can talk much faster then I can type on that silly number pad.

I will text some people and they will call me back. I won't answer. I texted them because I wanted a short answer. For example:

Me(text): Meet at Salty Nut for Trivia at 8pm?
Reciepent's Call's Me: Well, I dunno yet I am gonna think about it. I was thinking about going over to Village Idiot cause one of my friends is in town and I havent seen them in a long time, but a lot of my friends are also going to Salty Nut. I am kinda broke right now cause I havent been working much and I had to pay my rent so I might not even be out late, but who knows. Who all is gonna be there? How long are you staying??
Me: Ummm....yeah, bye.

Where it COULD be:

Me(text): Meet at Salty Nut for Trivia at 8pm?
Reciepient(text): "I'll be there. Later." or "Maybe, not sure yet."

[CoolCockyChick]

I will text some people and they will call me back. I won't answer. I texted them because I wanted a short answer. For example:

Me(text): Meet at Salty Nut for Trivia at 8pm?
Reciepent's Call's Me: Well, I dunno yet I am gonna think about it. I was thinking about going over to Village Idiot cause one of my friends is in town and I havent seen them in a long time, but a lot of my friends are also going to Salty Nut. I am kinda broke right now cause I havent been working much and I had to pay my rent so I might not even be out late, but who knows. Who all is gonna be there? How long are you staying??
Me: Ummm....yeah, bye.

Where it COULD be:

Me(text): Meet at Salty Nut for Trivia at 8pm?
Reciepient(text): "I'll be there. Later." or "Maybe, not sure yet."


Ain't that da truth!!!

[TheMule]

It's actually quite easy, I have hit that high a few times...and believe it or not, faster than just calling them.

I can see that. Beats listening to some 30-60 second ringtone of some irritating crap that you'd be ashamed for your momma to catch you listening to only to go to voice mail after the "music" is over. :thumbs:

[Spur's Addiction]

2500 a month??? How do you have time to talk with that many text messages?

that's almost 100 a day.

[The Dude]

that's almost 100 a day.

I'm glad someone did the math for me...my head was hurting
:lol:

[ColaCock]

that's almost 100 a day.

That seems about right I would guess for an extreme texter. As far as how much I text, I am probably an 8 on a scale of 10. It's 3:30pm and I have already sent 31, and one of the messages went out to 12 people so it's really about 43 so far in Alltel's terms.

I don't know if Palmetto was combining her sent and recieved or not, but I my last bill says:

Sent: 1137
Recieved: 1203

So that would give a total of 2340 for the month. My mom even texts my brothers and I because she know's we hate talking on the phone, although I will call her sometimes when I can.

[Spur's Addiction]

I text like 2 a month.

incoming"blah blah blah"
outgoing"call me"

[APalmetto10]

2500 a month??? How do you have time to talk with that many text messages?

It's not all War and Peace. Sometimes they consist of a Yes, no, or Ok.

[the gamecock kid]

Only 200 text messages?!?! Wouldn't work for me ..... I text on mine more than I talk!

haha same here

[MDCox]

Getting back on topic.....The internet portion of this "phone" will be tied to AT&T's service. Depending on how fast, but more likely how slow this is; you may want to wait for the next model or V2.0. Maybe by then the speed will have improved on the ISP end. Apple already has the next model in the pipeline and it almost certainly will be coupled with a faster network from AT&T, faster processor, lighter, bigger HD, etc. My biggest complain besides the price could be a slow internet experience. So far, the network infrastructure has not caught up with the hardware.

Six years ago, I thought to myself who in their right mind is going to spend hundreds for a MP3 player. I misjudged the iPod market, so I won't make that mistake again with Apple. I think the iPhone will be gold if the network and the hardware are sound. The marketing for this thing is already well past what the iPod was. My only question is this phone could be hyped too much and will it be able to live up to this ultra hype by the media and all of us?

[JonneyGamecock]

Little known fact, apple stores actually give students a discount, so if you have or know someone who has a student ID of any sorts it can save you a quick 15-20% on any apple product you buy. Only problem is dealing with finding an apple store.

[Spur]

Anyone want to loan me $700?

Bought it off 1-800-MY-APPLE

I got 2 weeks left on my phone contract anyway so the 2 week wait if perfect.

[CoolCockyChick]

I'm a little jealous ...

[M.C.]

someone has some money

[usc90grad]

What's the monthly subscription costs run?

[APalmetto10]

Not me, $700 is way too much for a phone

[Gamecock Rob]

I want one, but agree with the above 700 is a lot more money than I can afford for a phone

[The Dude]

Bling bling.

[Spur]

:lol:

Fact is, I need a phone that helps me with calender/contacts

All my co-workers have blackberrys and different kinds...nobody likes them though

[Spur]

Had the phone now for a little while...thoughts

1) To think I even doubted getting this phone makes me go crazy. Well worth the money. Incredible. I love it.

2) The ease of the phone after an initial akward phase is really nice. The phone moves beautifully from one program to another without any delay.

3) If you have a mac, the sync is very easy and nice. Have both my email accounts tied to it now.

4) The weather/stock options are very cool and something i really like. i am a weather freak and enjoy having a colorful up-to-date option on my phone

5) The keyboard at first was a little....errr....but when you get used to it, you love it. I have fat fingers but have no problems with it as some online say.

6) The feel and look of it is something I didnt think I would ever get in a phone.

[Spur]

Getting back on topic.....The internet portion of this "phone" will be tied to AT&T's service. Depending on how fast, but more likely how slow this is; you may want to wait for the next model or V2.0. Maybe by then the speed will have improved on the ISP end. Apple already has the next model in the pipeline and it almost certainly will be coupled with a faster network from AT&T, faster processor, lighter, bigger HD, etc. My biggest complain besides the price could be a slow internet experience. So far, the network infrastructure has not caught up with the hardware.

Six years ago, I thought to myself who in their right mind is going to spend hundreds for a MP3 player. I misjudged the iPod market, so I won't make that mistake again with Apple. I think the iPhone will be gold if the network and the hardware are sound. The marketing for this thing is already well past what the iPod was. My only question is this phone could be hyped too much and will it be able to live up to this ultra hype by the media and all of us?

Reading over MacRumors.com and a couple of other sites, the thought that Apple is putting together Version 2.0 is pure speculation at this point especially considering 1.0 has been a success BUT still has a long way to go itself in terms of software/hardware glitches.

If they release 2.0, I would be shocked if it was within the next 18 months so if you want to get an iPhone...go for it. Now is as good as 2 months from now, imo.

Apple has said they plan on releasing updates before their next operating system and believe it. With a few updates, I will be VERY Happy.

Agree completely though that the next version will be just incredible. But with that said, I love my iPhone and have no problem with the internet speed at this point. Maybe some will want instant speed but I am fine waiting just a few seconds.

On the plan part, I don't mind their plan to be honest. My old plan with Verizon was slightly less AND it had half the features.

I use my phone for business now and other business phones/plans are really just as expensive if you put it 2 years down the road.

[M.C.]

i will wait...I got an ENV ofr christmas and am happy with it

[uscmatt]

I just picked one up today in charlotte at the apple store. I have to say that it is by far the sexiest phone I've ever scene, and its so damn fun to use i can hardly put it down.

Btw, i havent had much of a chance to test the edge network because im usually around wifi which is blazin. Cockytalk fully rendered is beautiful to see on a phone.

[Spur]

I just picked one up today in charlotte at the apple store. I have to say that it is by far the sexiest phone I've ever scene, and its so damn fun to use i can hardly put it down.

Btw, i havent had much of a chance to test the edge network because im usually around wifi which is blazin. Cockytalk fully rendered is beautiful to see on a phone.

I used the Edge network several times and have no problems with it.

Is it as fast as connecting to a network at your house? No

But it isn't as slow as some iPhone haters are making it out.

But, with that said....I hope Edge gets better in the next year as it COULD be faster

[uscnoklahoma]

I will just wait for one to stop working, like the IPODS on EBAY, buy it dirt cheap and then smack it a couple of times! Worked on my 3 ipods! LOL!

[Spur]

iPhone makes Apple stock red hot

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Infotech/Internet__Telecom/iPhone_makes_Apple_stock_red_hot/articleshow/2173484.cms

SAN FRANCISCO: Apple's stock soared to a record high amid analyst reports that sales of highly profitable iPhones easily rocketed past 300,000 after its US launch.

Apple shares were up nearly five percent, going for 127.17 dollars a piece when the New York Stock Exchange closed. The price slipped a fraction to 126.82 in after-hours trading.

Investors were evidently reacting to reports from analysts that from 310,000 to 700,000 iPhones have been snapped up since the devices began selling on Friday and that the profit margin on the devices is estimated at 55 per cent.

Apple and US telecom giant AT&T, the exclusive iPhone service provider, did not disclose sales figures "for competition reasons." "In its first weekend we sold more iPhones than in the first month of any other wireless phone AT&T ever offered," AT&T spokesman Mark Siegel told AFP.

"That's how good it's been. We are simply not releasing figures." Nearly all of AT&T's 1,800 stores were sold out of iPhones by Monday and new stocks were en route, according to Siegel.

[uscmatt]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e96/mattgedney82/iphone020.jpg

We dont have wifi at work so i've been using edge. Its definitely not as bad as some critics make it out to be, and shouldnt be a deal-breaker if you're considering the iphone.

[SpuR48]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e96/mattgedney82/iphone020.jpg

We dont have wifi at work so i've been using edge. Its definitely not as bad as some critics make it out to be, and shouldnt be a deal-breaker if you're considering the iphone.

Holy monkeys that's sexy!!

How do you select the links? Is it touch? If so, how do you make sure to select just the link you want (IE: Without fat-fingering it?)

:lol:

[Spur]

It is touch.

You can also go closer/further on web-pages to select links.

Much easier then I thought it would be

[uscnoklahoma]

Uh-Oh....I think I will wait about a year.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19614050/

[The Dude]

Norwegian hacker says he can bypass AT&T on iPhone

MENLO PARK, California (Reuters) - A well-known hacker claims to have overcome restrictions on Apple Inc.'s iPhone, allowing highly technical users to bypass AT&T Inc.'s network to use the phone's Internet and music features.
In a post dated July 3 on his blog, Jon Johansen, 23, a prolific hacker of consumer electronics gadgets since he was a teenager in Norway, said "I've found a way to activate a brand new unactivated iPhone" without signing up for AT&T service.
"The iPhone does not have phone capability, but the iPod and Wi-Fi work. Stay tuned!" he wrote on his long-running blog, which is combatively named "So Sue Me." The post was entitled "iPhone Independence Day," a play on the July 4 U.S. holiday.
The site contained technical details for other hackers, as well as links to software necessary to complete the process.
One potential use would be for an iPhone user living or traveling outside the United States to access the iPhone's music player and Internet service over Wi-Fi connections without using the phone.
AT&T spokesman Mark Siegel said it was necessary to activate the iPhone on AT&T's network to ensure optimum performance. Using the phone without AT&T's two-year service contract was unauthorized under the phone carrier's exclusive network service contract with Apple, Siegel added.
"Any other use of the device is not authorized and we can't guarantee the device will perform as intended to. We'll monitor situations like this and if necessary we will take appropriate action," he said. "Our terms and conditions are very clear."
He did not elaborate on potential action AT&T might take.
Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris declined to comment on Johansen's claims.
Apple has yet to reveal network operator deals in markets outside the United States. But the iPhone is a quad-band GSM phone and will work in many parts of Europe and Asia with international roaming deals arranged by AT&T, Kerris said.
Neither Apple nor AT&T have disclosed sales figures since the iPhone went on sale in the United States on June 29, but some analysts have estimated sales of up to 700,000 units for the costly coveted phone's first weekend on the market.
Johansen became known as "DVD Jon" earlier this decade for helping to reverse engineer the code used to protect DVD movies against piracy, saying he did so in order to play them on his Linux computer.
The computer activist has engaged in a cat-and-mouse game with Apple to bypass copyright controls on various Apple products, including QuickTime, iTunes and Apple TV.
(Additional reporting by Sinead Carew in New York)

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN0537031320070706?pageNumber=1

[uscmatt]

I can't stop playing with this thing. Never did I think I would say that about a phone. I think google maps is one of the best features. Search mexican restaurants in charlotte, it shows them on the map, select one and it dials it for you. I never have to use 411 again!

(posted from my iPhone)

[uscnoklahoma]

Or you could have just dialed 1-800-free-411. To each his own though. Sounds like a nice toy but I would rather have a simple phone....heck the slvr l7 is too much for me!

[Spur]

Best Thing I Have Ever Bought

Well worth the money.

Love it more every day.

Makes my life at work MUCH, MUCH easier with email/calender/contacts/internet use....

[wcnorton]

I miss CB's.
:-|

[Spur]

Analyst predicts 13.5m iPhone sales by 2009

RBC Capital is raising its estimates to reflect a predicted 13.5 million iPhone sales by the end of 2008. Checks suggest Apple may be planning to produce 8 million iPhones by the end of this year alone, which would put the company well ahead of its own announced hopes of selling 10 million phones within an 18-month period. Apple's plans for 2007 may include higher memory (16GB) iPhones, as well as refreshes to existing models at lower prices to stimulate demand, according to SeekingAlpha. Plans also could include inventory for iPhone launches in Canada, Europe, and Asia with a 3G/HSDPA-capable handset shipping by the spring of 2008 alongside a higher resolution display. Checks also point to a potential refresh in Apple's iPod line in the fourth quarter of this year which may well include an updated iPod nano, a new iPod model altogether, and a new video iPod. Some or all of the updated iPods could include iPhone-like features as well, according to the firm, with new devices adding more memory as well as integrated Wi-Fi capability moving forward.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/12/135m.iphone.sales.by.09/

[Spur]

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/study_apple_iphone_owners_off_the_charts_satisfied _with_device/

"Early iPhone owners are overwhelmingly happy with their devices, a survey out Friday says, and Apple and AT&T are luring customers from rivals as a result," Edward C. Baig reports for USA Today.

"In one of the first such studies, 90% of 200 owners said they were 'extremely' or 'very' satisfied with their phone. And 85% said they are 'extremely' or 'very' likely to recommend the device to others, says the online survey conducted and paid for by market researcher Interpret of Santa Monica, Calif. The firm surveyed 1,000 cellphone users July 6-10," Baig reports.

"The findings are 'pretty much off the charts,' says Jason Kramer, Interpret's chief strategy officer," Baig reports. "The firm's clients are in the entertainment and mobile industries."

"The iPhone is extending Apple's reach, the survey says. Three of 10 buyers were first-time Apple customers. For 40%, iPhone is their first iPod," Baig reports. "Apple could 'change the physics in the phone market,' if it is as successful building loyalty to the iPhone as it has been in the music and computer markets, says Gene Munster, senior research analyst at Piper Jaffray."

[Spur]

Study: iPhone has potential to dramatically alter mobile video market

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/study_iphone_has_potential_to_dramatically_alter_m obile_video_market/

According to research conducted by new media research firm Interpret, Apple's iPhone has the potential to be a catalyst for growth in mobile video usage, among both iPhone owners and owners of regular cell phones. Despite owning their new iPhones for a short period of time, 63% of iPhone owners have already used the widescreen-enabled device to watch video (compared to only 28% of regular cell phone owners). Half of iPhone owners (51%) have watched a YouTube video on their phone, while 46% have watched a music video, 34% watched the news, and 32% have already watched a movie trailer.

The study shows that it’s not the consumers who are different, it’s the iPhone – prior to buying the iPhone, few owners had watched video on their cell phone (only 17% had seen YouTube clips, 21% had watched a music video, 16% had seen the news, and only 15% had watched a movie trailer on a phone).

“Apple has already made a name for itself as a top destination for music and video on-the-go, and consumers expect the iPhone to deliver on that reputation,” said Jason Kramer, Chief Strategy Officer, Interpret, in the press release. “Consumers want to watch video on their cell phones, but they have high expectations for the experience. The iPhone shows consumers that the potential is there to meet or exceed their expectations for mobile video.”

The study also shows how the iPhone could have a “halo effect” for mobile video, even among non-owners. Only 28% of non-iPhone owners have ever watched video on their cell phone, and interest in watching video on their current phone is not strong. One-quarter or fewer are interested in watching music videos (25%), TV shows (25%), movies (24%) or video clips like on YouTube (24%). However, after seeing a 2-minute video about watching video on the iPhone, nearly three-quarters (73%) of non-owners say they are interested in watching video on an iPhone, and 42% say they are “extremely” or “very” interested. Further, widescreen video is a compelling selling point for the iPhone – half (50%) of non-owners who are open to buying the device say that seeing the iPhone’s video capabilities makes them more interested in buying one.

“What’s surprising is how wide open the market for mobile video is right now,” added Kramer. “The iPhone is definitely raising consumer awareness, but there are other players to watch, like Verizon and LG’s VX9400 Mobile TV phone. Consumers are remarkably open to who delivers mobile content to them.” A majority of both iPhone owners and non-owners consider carriers, broadcast and cable networks, movie studios, and Internet portals appropriate sources for mobile video. iPhone owners and non-owners have some different expectations as to who will provide their mobile entertainment – 73% of iPhone users expect to get it from iTunes (compared to 43% of non-owners), and 46% of non-owners expect to get it from their cable or satellite company (compared to 37% of iPhone owners).

According to the survey, 66% of iPhone owners and 73% of non-owners said they prefer to watch content for free, with ads. One-third of iPhone owners (34%) would consider a monthly subscription model (compared to only 21% of non-owners) and 28% would consider pay-per-download (compared to only 20% of non-owners).

“In order to fully capitalize on the opportunity for mobile video, Apple and its competitors will need to move beyond a pay-per-download business model,” said Michael Dowling, Interpret’s CEO, in the press release. “Consumers are used to an ad-supported model for video, and are open to a wide range of advertising if companies like Apple can deliver on the user experience.”

The survey was conducted online among a representative sample of 1,000 cell phone users, including 200 iPhone owners and 800 non-owners.
• Survey was conducted last Friday-Tuesday (July 6-10, 2007).
• Nationally-representative sample of cell phone users ages 13-64.
• To obtain a representative sample of iPhone owners, potential respondents were randomly chosen from four major online research panels and data was statistically adjusted for survey response bias.
• iPhone owners had to triple-verify ownership of the device.
• Non-owners were required to own a working cell phone, have current service, and be the primary/joint decision maker in making new cell phone purchases.
• US Census estimates were used to insure that the overall sample was representative of all US cell phone users ages 13-64.

[Spur]

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/apple_will_sell_its_millionth_iphone_well_before_s eptember_30th/

Apple Inc. "said it sold 270,000 iPhones on June 30. Apple and AT&T combined sold iPhones at a rate of 9,000 units per hour, making my guess for total weekend sales 325,000, assuming a slowdown on Sunday," Arik Hesseldahl reports for BusinessWeek.

"The most informed player, Apple itself, says it is on track to move a million iPhones by Sept. 30, when the current fiscal quarter closes. That would work out to a pace of more than 10,600 units per day. And given that Apple has a long history of forecasting low and then surprising Wall Street with numbers that come in substantially higher, my bet is that Apple will sell its millionth iPhone well before Sept. 30," Hesseldahl reports.

"Moreover, Apple is predicting that it will break the 10 million-unit mark by the end of fiscal 2008, which is 14 months away. And you can bet new iterations of the iPhone are on the way," Hesseldahl reports.

"Make no mistake. The iPod is and remains a big deal for Apple: It has sold 108 million units over nearly six years (including 9.8 million in the most recent quarter), and iPod sales have contributed more than $20 billion in revenue for Apple, not counting sales of music, videos, and iPod accessories," Hesseldahl reports. "But unless something goes terribly wrong, the early data suggest that the iPhone will eclipse those figures, too. The iPhone looks to be the most successful Apple product ever. How's that for a reality check?"

[ultimatetailgater]

AT&T activates only one third of iPhone expectations

AT&T’s biggest mobile product launch of this year will likely be the Apple iPhone. Despite the massive amounts of hype surrounding the product and its launch, financial reports released by AT&T indicate that the iPhone did not perform as well as expected.
"I think it may be an understatement to say that no device in the history of the wireless industry has come out with more fanfare than the iPhone," said Richard G. Lindner, AT&T's chief financial officer. "Expectations were certainly high."
The phone company said that it activated 146,000 iPhones on its first two days of availability, which were also the two last days of the quarter. The number of activations for the iPhone fell below expectations, which sent Apple’s stock falling 6.1 percent. Analysts were expecting 500,000 activations for the launch window.

The majority of iPhone sales went to existing customers. 40 percent of iPhone activations were to new subscribers. Despite the large difference between expectations and actual activations, analysts don’t believe that the iPhone is so far a disappointment.
Early word of activation issues left some consumers to take a wait-and-see attitude before committing to signing the two year contract.
"While some have suggested disappointment with the iPhone number, we note that there were significant activation problems for the first couple of days post-launch, which may have held the number down artificially through quarter-end," Stifel Nicolaus analyst Christopher King told Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/markets/2007/07/24/att-iphone-apple-markets-equity-cx_er_0724markets13.html).
Analysts who were disappointed by the iPhone’s early performance still believe that the device will eventually heat up activations for AT&T and revenue for Apple.

"It does not fundamentally change our confidence that the iPhone will become the next major driver for Apple's growth," said Piper Jaffray & Co. analyst Gene Munster to the LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-att25jul25,1,618496.story?coll=la-headlines-business).

http://www.dailytech.com/ATT+Reports+Disappointing+Initial+Sales+of+iPhone/article8168.htm

[Spur]

Considering the Apple stock was hitting record highs just about daily, it falling shouldn't surprise anyone. It's still on record highs and Mac just announced they had its best Quarter....ever.

I think the end of that article and this pretty much tell the story.

In the wake of Apple’s quarterly earnings (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/07/25/liveupdate/index.php), the company may be on its way (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/07/25/iphoneanalysis/index.php) to having another hit product on its hands. Included in Apple’s announcement of its $818 million third-quarter profit (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/07/25/appleearnings/index.php) Wednesday were the company’s first official pronouncements about iPhone (http://iphone.macworld.com/) sales. Apple said it sold 270,000 iPhones during the first 30 hours the mobile device was on the market. Philip Michaels argues that the only thing the iPhone failed to do in its opening weekend was live up to some fairly ridiculous sales forecasts (http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/2007/07/expectations/index.php). He also thinks it’s just a matter of time before the iPod roars back (http://playlistmag.com/weblogs/ipodblog/2007/07/ipodwaits/index.php) into the spotlight.

http://www.macworld.com/

[ultimatetailgater]

iPhone Hacked (http://www.dailytech.com/iPhone+Hacked+to+Accept+Any+ATT+Cingular+SIM+Card/article8088.htm)

iPhone Dissected (http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3026&p=3)

[Spur]

Good links. Dissection has been done by a few people. No real bad reviews so that's a plus.

The hack really isn't a big deal on a V 1.0 that will be fixed shortly with updates soon to come. Every cell-phone has had some hacker problems here or there. Apple stock hit 2 highs after the big Hack thing came out.

[ultimatetailgater]

I actually think the hacks are a good thing. It's stupid of them to force the comsumer to get one companies service to use it. I think its pretty funny and there are several teams and websites dedicated to cracking it so I'm sure they'll find ways around new updates.

[JAYBEZ]

Kinda feel bad for all those people... considering they are planning to release a smaller version in a couple months.

[Spur]

Kinda feel bad for all those people... considering they are planning to release a smaller version in a couple months.

No need to feel bad. Have yet to see anyone complain about their space being too much. Quite the opposite, many seem to want MORE space.

In addition, the release of the Nano Phone is still off even with reports. Rumors say Christmas...I don't buy it. I think you will see it much further down the road.

Stupid to release another addition 5 months after previous. Apple wouldn't do that.

[JAYBEZ]

No need to feel bad. Have yet to see anyone complain about their space being too much. Quite the opposite, many seem to want MORE space.

In addition, the release of the Nano Phone is still off even with reports. Rumors say Christmas...I don't buy it. I think you will see it much further down the road.

Stupid to release another addition 5 months after previous. Apple wouldn't do that.


Not really. You will see the bandwagoners adopt it has the next trendy thing to have.

As far as poor reviews? I personally think the interent connection is terrible and it is crazy that it cant send picture or video messages. And I don't even want to talk about the fact that it wont synch with several company's outlook e-mail programs.

[Spur]

Not really. You will see the bandwagoners adopt it has the next trendy thing to have.

As far as poor reviews? I personally think the interent connection is terrible and it is crazy that it cant send picture or video messages. And I don't even want to talk about the fact that it wont synch with several company's outlook e-mail programs.

If they want to adopt the next version as the trendy thing to have, so be it. More money for Apple and the iPhone. But that is 12-18 months away. Orders sent for a Nano were confirmed but the Christmas time frame is pure internet speculation.

Actually find the Internet Connection to be very good. Edge hasnt been that slow for me at all including peak usage hours at work or on the Weekends.

And as for emails, I have all 5 of my emails connected to the iPhone with no problems.

Jobs has already stated the next 2 updates will include photo updates and business email fixes so that will be done shortly.

[SpurFever2009]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/13898996/detail.html

[ultimatetailgater]

Wow, my fingers would fall off if I sent 30,000 text messages a month.

[Spur]

:lol:

Mine was just a few pages

[Jolly Roger]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294437,00.html

NEW YORK — A 17-year-old hacker has broken the lock that ties Apple's iPhone to AT&T's wireless network, freeing the most hyped cell phone ever for use on the networks of other carriers, including overseas ones.

George Hotz of Glen Rock, N.J., confirmed Friday that he had unlocked an iPhone and was using it on T-Mobile's network, the only major U.S. carrier apart from AT&T that is compatible with the iPhone's cellular technology.

In a video posted to his blog, he holds an iPhone that displays "T-Mobile" as the carrier.

[Jolly Roger]

His blog: http://iphonejtag.blogspot.com/

phone on ebay, bidding started at $600: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230164884672

[ShutTheSuccop]

His blog: http://iphonejtag.blogspot.com/

phone on ebay, bidding started at $600: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230164884672

The bidding now is at 10,000...hmm, maybe steve jobs placed a bid!

[gotrice?]

You know this guy is probably going to put this money into just buying more iPhones and hacking them. Pretty good business move as long as he doesn't get caught.

[ShutTheSuccop]

You know this guy is probably going to put this money into just buying more iPhones and hacking them. Pretty good business move as long as he doesn't get caught.

I saw the hacker on CNBC this afternoon...he looks like the guy from the apple commercials (ironically enough)

[gamecockfandrew]

$12,600 now

[gamecockfandrew]

You know this guy is probably going to put this money into just buying more iPhones and hacking them. Pretty good business move as long as he doesn't get caught.

As long as he doesn't get caught? I'm pretty sure they caught him now. They're probably working up their legal stance over at Microsoft right now.

[CofC Cock]

As long as he doesn't get caught? I'm pretty sure they caught him now. They're probably working up their legal stance over at Microsoft right now.

I didn't think that there was anything wrong with unlocking phones. people do it all the time with every type of phone. I personally have an unlocked blackberry. I dont think he can get in trouble as long as he is not entering the apple system. if its the phone then its private property and you can do anything to your property

[ShutTheSuccop]

now over 600,000

[cold-cocked]

Looks like the bidding is at 15 million. What the Hell???

[go_carolina_528]

Now at 22 million!

[rnecavs07]

i mean damn for cheaper than that you could pay out the contract with ur current provider and get one with cingular anyways...ahh the ignorance of the human race

[cold-cocked]

Think of the things you could get with that kind of money. Big houses, cars, and women....or an iphone autographed by "Geohot":mrgreen:

[ultimatetailgater]

old news already been done by several groups of hackers.

[Cockadoo]

Thats microsoft bidding on that phone. Gotta keep em off the market lol.

[go_carolina_528]

:lol: its now at 99,999,999.00

[Lant]

:lol: its now at 99,999,999.00


are you making fun of my bid:-x







:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Lant]

are you making fun of my bid:-x







:lol: :lol: :lol:



just kidding BTW

[The Dude]

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Apple Inc on Wednesday said the company was cutting the price of its iPhone and was on track to sell one million phones before the end of September.
"We want to make the iPhone even more affordable" Jobs said at a product event, announcing that the price of the model with 8 gigabytes of storage was cut to $399 from $599.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0522907220070905?src=090507_1435_DOUBLEFEATUR E_iphone_gets_price_cut

[The Dude]

Man...good ol' hindsight...
a lot of people could have saved a bunch of money by waiting only a few months...i never expected them to cut prices so fast- i figured it'd be at least a year before we saw this kind of reduction!

[APalmetto10]

That didn't take long.

[happygilmore527]

No mention of new Ipods?

[The Dude]

No mention of new Ipods?

its in the link.

[happygilmore527]

I just saw some video on them. They are pretty sweet.

[Spur's Addiction]

Now if they drop another 200 bucks I might actaully think about buying one.

[happygilmore527]

and if they move to say Verizon or someone with a good network.

[SwampFox]

^Agreed. I prefer a phone that will give you a choice of carrier. I wonder when they AT&T monoploy on the Ipod will stop?

[garnet4ever]

so was this the big announcement today?

[usc90grad]

:lol: :lol: :lol: <<<< at the people that waited in line to pay $599 for this thing.

[CoolCockyChick]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/09/06/apple.price.cut.ap/index.html

Early adopters sour over iPhone price cut

SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- Apple Inc.'s price cut of its iPhone and new lineup of iPod players are expected to ring in healthy holiday sales, but Wall Street investors accustomed to Apple's meaty profit margins appear a bit disappointed.
The price cut for the 8-gigabyte iPhone, set off a debate between early adopters. Apple stock dropped more than 5 percent after the price cut was announced Wednesday, closing at $136.76, down $7.40. In extended trading, the share price fell another $1.01.

Meanwhile, gadget enthusiasts who snapped up the ballyhooed iPhone before Wednesday are coping with a bitter aftertaste now that it is $200 cheaper within 10 weeks of its introduction.

The price cut, from $599 to $399 for the 8-gigabyte iPhone, immediately set off a debate on online tech forums between early adopters, who said paying a premium price came with the territory, and those who said they felt burned. The price reduction was too much too soon, some complained.
In a discussion on The Unofficial Apple Weblog site, the views were split evenly.

Many customers took the iPhone price cut in stride, however. Ryan Roth, who bought one for $599 on Friday after months of research, chalked up his purchase to "the worst timing ever."

"I realize this is not their problem: I agreed to the original price -- it's my fault," said Roth, 32, of New York, who has been thinking about getting a cell phone for four years but held out until the last week. "It just kinda sucks."

But some relief is in sight.

Apple spokeswoman Natalie Kerris said anyone who purchased an iPhone within the past 14 days and has the receipt can get a full refund under Apple's return policy if they haven't opened the product. If they have opened it, they still can get a refund of the price difference.

The steep price cut less than three months after the iPhone's launch on June 29 -- and the discontinuation of the 4-gigabyte iPhone, which sold for $499 -- were surprising from Apple, which usually keeps prices steady while adding new features. It normally discounts products only when they age.

Analysts said quick discounts are typical for the cell phone industry, however. The world's best-selling cell phone, Motorola Razr, for instance, debuted at $499 but can now be bought for less than $100.

"This is about Apple learning how to become a cell phone retailer," said Jeff Kagan, an independent telecommunications industry analyst based in Atlanta. "All of a sudden it's in the cell phone business, and everyone is trying to figure out how to measure it, and we don't know yet."

Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs said the company is on pace to sell 1 million iPhones in the United States by the end of September.

The newest iPod media players, also announced Wednesday, include a model called iPod Touch that incorporates the iPhone's touch-screen and adds the ability to wirelessly download songs directly from the new iTunes Wi-Fi Store. Also new are a version of the best-selling iPod, the Nano, that plays video and a larger capacity, 160-gigabyte version of the video iPod, newly dubbed the iPod Classic.

Apple also announced a partnership with Starbucks: Starting in October, the coffee chain's icon will light up on the Touch whenever a user nears a shop that has Wi-Fi access. Users can then download the song that's playing in that Starbucks shop or get a list of the 10 most recent songs played.

Apple executives said the revamped and expanded iPod line -- in which the iPhone is recast as the top model -- is the company's most robust lineup ever for the holiday season. In 2006, Apple sold a record 21 million iPod players during the holiday quarter, about 50 percent more than in the same period the year before.

Apple has now sold more than 110 million iPods since they debuted in 2001.

[usc90grad]

^^ Apple has a mess on their hands with their best customers. It just goes to show you don't buy new technology as soon as it comes out.

[ColaCock]

Actually, a teenager broke the code for the AT&T-only iPhone. He made it useful for other GSM networks like T-Mobile and sold it for a good bit of money or something.

Anyways, I want to say the contract with AT&T is 4 years but I could be wrong. Pressures might make it shorter but they are the largest provider in the US so the customers are there. I am thinking about leaving Alltel for them...not for the iPhone though.

[Spur]

I bought the iPhone a few days after it came out and don't mind the price drop at all.

It's a tech product. It happens.

[ColaCock]

I bought the iPhone a few days after it came out and don't mind the price drop at all.

It's a tech product. It happens.

True, but you must admit that this kind of price drop for such a highly marketed tech product is rare. For example, the PS3 lasted about a year before it's first price drop. The iPhone barely lasted 2 months.

[usc90grad]

I bought the iPhone a few days after it came out and don't mind the price drop at all.

It's a tech product. It happens.

I bet if you called, they would throw you a bone...maybe a month free service.

[Spur]

Apple CEO Steve Jobs posts open letter to iPhone customers, gives $100 store credit

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/apple_ceo_steve_jobs_posts_open_letter_to_iphone_c ustomers/

This is perfect for me as I am about to buy my 2nd MacBookPro

I mean it...I have bought plenty of things that had just dropped price wise. It's the way of the world in technology today.

I am happy with my iPhone. it was a huge upgrade

[cockyhoskins]

^Agreed. I prefer a phone that will give you a choice of carrier. I wonder when they AT&T monoploy on the Ipod will stop?

agreed. I would have paid $800 for it when it came out if I could have gotten it on another provider. I am not switching providers for ANY phone.

[The Dude]

agreed. I would have paid $800 for it when it came out if I could have gotten it on another provider. I am not switching providers for ANY phone.

Not to get political, but I believe there is legislation on the block that will require cell phone providers to offer their phones across carriers.

Hope it gets through.

This phone is much cooler, from a functionality perspective, than the iPhone...
http://www.yourmobilephonereviews.co.uk/nokia_e70_reviews.htm

The Nokia E70 not only plays mp3s, video, has a full browser and Wi-Fi, IMAP and POP3 email, and Google Maps, but you can even run terminal software to telnet or SSH into remote servers

[cockyhoskins]

that is pretty cool.

Also, someone asked about the AT&T contract. It is a required 2 years.

[COCKDIESEL]

Actually, a teenager broke the code for the AT&T-only iPhone. He made it useful for other GSM networks like T-Mobile and sold it for a good bit of money or something.

Anyways, I want to say the contract with AT&T is 4 years but I could be wrong. Pressures might make it shorter but they are the largest provider in the US so the customers are there. I am thinking about leaving Alltel for them...not for the iPhone though.
He actually traded it for a Nissan 350z and a paid consulting position with some phone repair company.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070828/ap_on_re_us/odd_iphone_unlocked

[AllGamecock]

And i still wont get one until

1. they solve all the problems with it. friends of mine have them and they wont stop complaining about it.

2. switch to verizon. seriously. ATT is a horrible network.

[usc90grad]

Apple CEO Steve Jobs posts open letter to iPhone customers, gives $100 store credit

Nice PR move, but they should really offer more since that $100 will only really cost Apple about $30.

[Spur]

Nice PR move, but they should really offer more since that $100 will only really cost Apple about $30.

Huh?

[JAYBEZ]

Do you feel like you are getting screwed? Now that the new 3G version is coming out with all the corrections the first version didn't have... and so soon.

[Spur]

You mean iPhone? No, not in the least. That is the way technology goes today.

For me, the iPhone is 5x better then my previous phone. I type twice as fast, my email service is SO EASY TO USE on the phone, and the iPod part is honestly addiciting as hell (even though I use my iPod for running, etc).

I have found that the Edge network is far from super fast but honestly, it works just fine when I am away from a wifi network.

Add in the $100 rebate and I am very happy. I already planned on buying another MBP

[ColaCock]

I played with one yesterday and it kind of washed away the few bad reviews I have read- that thing is awesome. I have a Palm Treo and it does everything I want it to do...but boy, it sure is tempting to get one.

I do think that the update and price drop came WAY too soon, even for a tech gadget like this.

[MDCox]

iPods have been out for years and are getting better and better. Why would we be screwed. The early adapters are always going to pay for the second generation and so on. Just keep buying the last generation if you want the latest and greatest.

[TaterHater1984]

They come out with a new one every 2 seconds. I really want an iPhone though. I messed around with a friends the ther day and man, those things are sweet.

[Spur]

iPods have been out for years and are getting better and better. Why would we be screwed. The early adapters are always going to pay for the second generation and so on. Just keep buying the last generation if you want the latest and greatest.

I think he meant iPhone

[Spur]

Sigh...we really do have some idiots

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=mobile_and_wireless&articleId=9040079&taxonomyId=15&intsrc=kc_top

A woman from Queens, N.Y., sued Apple Inc. last week over the iPhone, saying that the company broke several laws when it cut the price of the device last month by $200 and then issued a $100 credit to some owners.

It was the first known lawsuit resulting from the 33% price cut, which raised a ruckus among iPhone users and forced Apple Inc. CEO Steve Jobs to apologize for how Apple had treated loyal customers.

In a complaint (download PDF) filed Sept. 24 with a New York federal court, Dongmei Li accused Apple, Jobs and Apple's wireless partner, AT&T Inc., of price discrimination, discrimination in offering rebates versus credits, underselling, unfair and deceptive practices, and other violations of federal laws.

Li, who said she had stood in line "for hours" on July 2 -- three days after the iPhone went on sale -- to buy an iPhone, claimed that Apple practiced price discrimination between early and later buyers when it cut the price of the 8GB model from $599 to $399 last month. "Apple's discrimination in price between early and later purchasers substantially caused the early purchasers to be injured because early purchasers cannot resell their iPhones for the same profit as later purchasers," Li's lawsuit stated.

Her suit also dinged Apple for giving some iPhone owners -- those who bought between Aug. 22 and Sept. 4 -- a $200 refund on the higher price they'd paid for their phones, while offering earlier customers a $100 in-store credit. As part of its price-protection policy, Apple did refund $200 to people who bought an iPhone in the two weeks leading up to Jobs' surprise Sept. 5 price cut announcement.

The lawsuit also accuses Apple of abandoning the lower-priced 4GB iPhone, the model that Li bought; locking early buyers into a two-year contract with AT&T, something later purchasers could conceivably skip by using one of several unlock hacks; and selling the iPhone at a loss.

Li's suit seeks compensatory damages of $1 million, plus punitive damages to be accessed by at trial.

Apple officials were not available for comment.

[TheGuitarCock]

Is it worth it?

[Spur]

Is it worth it?

And then some....I love mine.

It is addicting as HELL, easy to use (for business/personal for me at least), and fun

[CarbonCrew]

I am totally worthless at work now because of my Iphone. Easily the best phone I've ever had.

[Spur]

RUMOR: 16GB Apple iPhone this week?

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/rumor_16gb_apple_iphone_this_week_with_links_to_im ages/

A person cliaming to be an Apple Retail Store employee has posted in MacRumors forum that Apple is expected to officially announce 16GB iPhones within the next few days.

The poster says that their Apple Store has already received their units and display materials and posted photos to prove it:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8759/iphonescreennw8.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3821/iphone16gbboxfb1.jpg

[Spur]

Apple iPhone among Popular Mechanics’ Top 10 Most Brilliant Gadgets of 2007


http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/apple_iphone_among_popular_mechanics_top_10_most_b rilliant_gadgets_of_2007/

Popular Mechanics has placed Apple's iPhone among their "Top 10 Most Brilliant Gadgets of 2007" list:

Of course, you’ve heard about this phone. But have you used it? The best way to understand why Apple’s iPhone ($400) has sent shockwaves through the cellphone industry is simply to check your voice mail with it. Instead of passwords and audible instructions, the iPhone displays a visual list of voice mails —which are saved as audio files. Using the bright and responsive touchscreen, you scroll through the list and tap a message. When you’re done with a message, simply slide your finger over it and a delete button pops up. At the top of the phone is a button that locks the screen, so it can go back in your pocket without risking accidental commands. All phones should work so smoothly. Because of the iPhone, they’ll eventually have to.

[go_carolina_528]

Red Iphone?
With iPod shuffles and nanos available in a variety of shades, it only makes sense to bring the love to the iPhone too, right? AT&T's internal inventory sheet is apparently now showing iPhones in "deep red" (we probably would've gone with something a little more neutral like black for the first new color, but whatevs) though we don't have any information beyond that.


http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/10/12/deep-red-iphone-in-the-works-for-atandt/

[Spur]

http://www.macrumors.com/2007/11/07/apple-releases-phase-ipod-game/

With the release of iTunes 7.5, Apple promised support for a new iPod game called "Phase" (iTunes link). The game was released yesterday to iTunes and sells for $4.99.

Phase is published through MTV Networks/Viacom but is a product of Harmonix, creators of Guitar Hero.

Phase is an interactive music game that lets you experience songs in an entirely new and unique way. Choose a song in your iTunes library, and Phase will turn it into a gameplay level. Press and glide the iPod's click wheel along with the rhythm of the music to catch notes and flowing sweeps.

The game is compatible with 3rd generation iPod nanos, iPod classic or the 5th generation iPod.

iLounge describes the gameplay, which is similar to existing rhythm games, such as Dance Dance Revolution and Guitar Hero:

Once you've selected a song, a 3-D road appears on the screen, with discs and dots floating towards you. Your goal is to tap the Click Wheel's left, center, and right buttons to match the current positions of discs that are moving towards the bottom of the screen, and slide your finger on the Click Wheel to catch "flowing sweeps" of dots that appear inbetween the discs.

[coryusc2008]

200 txt messages wont work...

I send and recieve a total of 12,000 each month...haha

[Spur]

Briefly: iPhone Software version 1.1.2 due Friday

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/11/08/briefly_iphone_software_version_1_1_2_due_friday.h tml

Apple sometime tomorrow afternoon is expected unleash the fourth software update for the iPhone since the handset made its U.S. debut back on June 29th.

The new version, to be released as iPhone Software version 1.1.2, will offer full support for the UK and German versions of the handset due to go on sale at 6:02 p.m. local time Friday, in addition a French model due later this month.

iPhone Software 1.1.2 will also reportedly pack support for dozens of other foreign languages and include various localized keyboard layouts, complete with accented characters and so forth.

European iPhone customers are likely to be the first to receive the update as part of their respective iPhone launches on Friday -- the software will reportedly come preloaded on the UK and German versions of the handsets.

Meanwhile, U.S. customers should expect the software to turn up via iTunes shortly thereafter.

iPhone Software 1.1.2 will be the fourth widespread iPhone software update, following version 1.1.1, which was released in late September. Versions 1.0.2 and 1.0.1 were released in August and July, respectively.

[Spur]

Apple releases iPhone update 1.1.2

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/11/12/iphoneupdate/index.php?lsrc=mwrss

While the update was available on Friday for adventurous users that wanted to manually install it, Apple on Monday officially released iPhone 1.1.2.

The update is available through iTunes and will show up when the iPhone is connected. Unfortunately, there are no details of what changed with the new version — Apple only says the update includes “new features and bug fixes.”

However, there are a few noticeable changes, mostly for international users. With the new version you can change the language to French, German or Italian and change the keyboard layout to English (UK), French, German and Italian.

Other smaller changes are also included with iPhone Update 1.1.2. The phone’s battery charge now shows up in iTunes, next to your phone icon. Apple changed the sorting of ringtones, too — tones from Apple or applications like iToner now show up in a section labeled “Custom,” while ringtones that came with the phone are listed under “Standard.”

The widely reported TIFF exploit has also been fixed with this update. That bug patch is a bit of a mixed blessing for iPhone enthusiasts. While it fixes a critical security vulnerability with the way that the phone renders TIFF images, that flaw had been used by iPhone developers in the unauthorized Jailbreak software that is used to run third-party applications. The update makes it difficult for users of brand-new iPhones to install Jailbreak.

Apple has been in a tug of war with some developers who have had to circumvent Apple’s security measures in order to get their software to run on the iPhone. Apple initially wanted to prevent all third-party code from running directly on its mobile device, but in recent months the company has promised to give developers a way to run their code on the iPhone. This software development kit will become available in February 2008.

The iPhones’s unauthorized software developers have already found a way to stay ahead of Apple's latest software update.

Users with Jailbreak on their iPhone 1.1.1 systems are being advised to first install an application called OktoPrep, according to a post on the Unofficial Apple Weblog. This allows them to update to 1.1.2 without compromising their ability to run unauthorized software on the device.

[Spur]

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/11/28/new_google_maps_feature_could_simulate_gps_on_ipho nes.html

A new version of Google Maps introduced this week includes a beta feature dubbed My Location that was designed to simulate the GPS experience on mobile phones and handheld devices that do not include GPS hardware, like Apple's iPhone.

Essentially, the My Location feature takes information broadcast from mobile towers near non-GPS equipped mobile phones to approximate the device's current location on the map down to about 10 city blocks.

"It's not GPS, but it comes pretty close (approximately 1000m close, on average)," the Mountain View, Calif.-based search giant explained on its website. "We're still in beta, but we're excited to launch this feature and are constantly working to improve our coverage and accuracy."

The My Location feature is currently available for most web-enabled mobile phones, including Java, BlackBerry, Windows Mobile, and Nokia/Symbian devices. However, it is not yet compatible with Apple's iPhone.

Still, Apple has promised to continuously update and improve upon the feature set of its inaugural mobile handset, making it more than likely that the feature will turn up once it emerges from the beta stage.

[Spur]

Analyst predicts Apple will sell 3 million iPhones, 30 million iPods in holiday quarter

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/analyst_predicts_apple_will_sell_3_million_iphones _30_million_ipods/

Blackfriars' Marketing co-founder Carl Howe is projecting that "Apple will sell about three million iPhones during the holiday season."

Howe writes, "And while the iPhone revenue spread over 24 months may pale next to the revenue blowout driven by 30 million iPods, those iPhone sales will be raking in a millions in deferred revenue in subsequent quarters. Think of the iPhone as the gift that keeps on giving all year long -- at least to Apple shareholders."

[GandBattack]

Got the LG Voyager (Verizon) on monday. It is great. Touchscreen and a qwerty keyboard, cant beat it. my gf has a iPhone and she likes the voyager better. definately better for texting.

[Spur]

Got the LG Voyager (Verizon) on monday. It is great. Touchscreen and a qwerty keyboard, cant beat it. my gf has a iPhone and she likes the voyager better. definately better for texting.
Man, I think texting is what I love the MOST about the iPhone...I type things 2x-3x faster on it then my previous phone from Cingular

[happygilmore527]

Got the LG Voyager (Verizon) on monday. It is great. Touchscreen and a qwerty keyboard, cant beat it. my gf has a iPhone and she likes the voyager better. definately better for texting.

I've been wondering if that phone would be any good. I might have to look into it.

[CreoleCock]

I am one who believe buying any new technology when it is first introduced is a bad idea.
Let other people test drive this thing, get the kinks worked out, and THEN i'll consider getting a revised model.

yea, that's how I am...I bought the 360 a few months ago, i waited for all my friends to get it and waited for the to fix the RED RING OF DEATH, then i bought one .:thumbsup:

[Spur]

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/apples_iphone_gaining_ground_as_business_tool/

Apple’s iPhone gaining ground as business tool - Friday, December 07, 2007 - 01:12 PM EST

"Mike de la Cruz, a senior vice president with German software giant SAP AG, shows off the latest weapon of the corporate road warrior -- his iPhone," Jim Finkle and Scott Hillis report for Reuters.

"A hit with consumers because it combines a phone, music player and Web browser, analysts say Apple Inc's iPhone is gaining ground as a business tool as well, and could one day rival Research in Motion Ltd's popular Blackberry line," Finkle and Hillis report.

"Indeed, it is popular enough that software makers such as SAP, Salesforce.com Inc (CRM.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and scores of smaller developers are letting sales and finance teams work away from the office on their iPhones," Finkle and Hillis report.

"On Monday, SAP broke with precedent by saying it would introduce a version of its upcoming customer relationship management software for the iPhone before launching versions for mobile devices from RIM and Palm Inc.," Finkle and Hillis report. "The reason? SAP's own salespeople were clamoring for it, saying the iPhone was easier to use, according to Bob Stutz, SAP senior vice president in charge of developing customer relationship management software."

Finkle and Hillis report, "Apple says the device is great for business. 'We've said many times that we're providing a solution in iPhone that many businesses love,' Apple Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook said in October. 'Clearly, there are some businesses buying them and very much enjoying them.'"

[Spur]

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/rumor_apple_soon_to_announce_5_million_iphones_sol d/

Citing those pesky ever-present "insiders," 9 to 5 Mac's Cleve Nettles reports, "Apple expects to announce sales of roughly five million iPhones at Macworld [Conference and Expo] 2008 in January. Of these, around one million are expected to come from Europe."

"Apple had originally expected to sell 10 million iPhones by the end of 2008 and reaching the halfway point this early is likely to bolster Apple's stock price," Nettles writes.

[The Yancey]

I've got a Voyager as well. I can watch ESPN football games on it. It is a great phone. The big drawback is no wifi.

[cboom4250]

i'm thinking about breaking down and buying an iPhone. i have some questions for those who may be able to help:

1) I just signed up with AT&T a few months ago. If I bought an iPhone would I have to change my plan or would it be like simply switching phones -- rather, would i have to extend my contract?

2) Can I use my existing SIM card? I have a 3G card in my Razr now. Just asking because I may not go to the ATT store to get it-- maybe the apple store.

That's all i can think of right now. Hopefully you guys can shed some light onto this for me...haha.

[Spur]

i'm thinking about breaking down and buying an iPhone. i have some questions for those who may be able to help:

1) I just signed up with AT&T a few months ago. If I bought an iPhone would I have to change my plan or would it be like simply switching phones -- rather, would i have to extend my contract?

2) Can I use my existing SIM card? I have a 3G card in my Razr now. Just asking because I may not go to the ATT store to get it-- maybe the apple store.

That's all i can think of right now. Hopefully you guys can shed some light onto this for me...haha.

Not sure about either.

Honestly, call 1-800-my-apple or they usually are able to tell you everything iPhone

[Dr. Cock]

Add me to the Voyager owners. I haven't got it programmed yet, but so far I'm very impressed. The features on it are pretty amazing.

[The Yancey]

Here is Cnet's take on the Voyager vs the iPhone: http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-31838.html?tag=nl.e404

[Spur]

http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/01/28/70000.iphones.in.germany/

Deutsche Telekom, the owner of T-Mobile, says that some 70,000 German iPhone subscribers have been added in the 11 weeks since the product's debut in the country on November 9th of last year. "The iPhone is by far the most sold multimedia device in T-Mobile's portfolio," according to Philipp Humm, the head of T-Mobile Germany. Reuters notes however that this figure is roughly equivalent to the number of iPhones sold by Orange in France, which only began its sales on November 28th.

Apple claims that some 2.3 million iPhones were sold worldwide during the December quarter alone, and that the total has been over 4 million since the June 29th American launch. This is despite the fact that only France, Germany, the US and the UK currently sell the device. Plans are said to be in the works for wider release, to countries such as Canada, Thailand and Sweden.

[ShutTheSuccop]

any woord on whether they may be coming to Verizon? I know I could probably look it up, but your guys in the know could really help me out!

[Ga_Gamecock]

ive got a touch and im blown away by the technology

im hoping my co goes to he iphone if/when they b/c available through verizon

[Spur]

any woord on whether they may be coming to Verizon? I know I could probably look it up, but your guys in the know could really help me out!
It will be awhile if ever.....

[Spur]

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/rumor_apple_iphone_coming_to_italy_spain_and_switz erland_in_february/

Recent iPhone rumors point to Telecom Italia Mobile grabbing the exclusive Apple iPhone deal in Italy, Telefonica nabbing the iPhone in Spain, and Swisscom getting iPhone for Switzerland.

"Spain's El Periodico reports that Telefonica is Apple's chosen network for the country, with the announcement of the link set for the World Mobile Congress, which takes place in Barcelona between 11-14 February," Jonny Evans reports for Macworld UK.

"In Italy, Apple seems set to go to Telecom Italia Mobile. Macity reports that the iPhone's software already includes a piece of code (the TIM_Italy.bundle) that strongly suggests support for that network is already being built-in," Evans reports. "Swisscom is expected to bring the iPhone to Switzerland by late February, claims Le Temps."

[Spur]

Canalys reported (http://www.canalys.com/pr/2008/r2008021.htm) on both U.S. and Q4 2007 mobile phone marketshare numbers today and listed Apple's iPhone as #3 (6.5%) in smart phone marketshare worldwide despite being only available in a few countries. Apple trailed Nokia (52.9%) and RIM (11.4%) who were #1 and #2, respectively, in the worldwide market.

Meanwhile, Canalys estimates that Apple is #2 in U.S. marketshare with 28%, behind RIM (41%). This put the iPhone ahead of both Palm (9%) and all Windows Mobile device vendors combined (21%).

During the Macworld Expo keynote speech, Jobs reported that the Apple iPhone won 19.5% of the smart phone market during the 3rd quarter of 2007, so this 28% marketshare in Q4 represents signficant growth in the second full quarter the iPhone has been on sale.

Today, Apple introduced a 16GB version of the iPhone (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/05/apple-announces-16gb-iphone-and-32gb-ipod-touch/).

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/05/iphone-with-28-of-u-s-smartphone-marketshare-for-q4-2007/

[Spur]

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/11/adobe-flash-support-for-iphone-coming-alongside-sdk/

Gearlive claims that according to a "reliable source", the iPhone will be getting Adobe Flash support "very, very soon". The site speculates that the release may come alongside the Software Development Kit (SDK) release that is due later this month -- but this timeframe is just guesswork.

Adobe's Flash plug-in is required to play Flash content which is commonly used in certain aspects of web design and web-hosted videos. Apple has managed to get around this requirement with Youtube by converting Youtube content into h.264, which the iPhone supports natively.

Lack of Safari support for the popular Flash plug-in generated a lot of early criticism for the Apple iPhone. Walt Mossberg first revealed in July that Apple planned on adding Flash support in a future software update, but this feature has not yet been seen.

GearLive has not been a regular source of Apple rumors, but notably, they were responsible for the early leak of iPhone 1.1.3 firmware, which turned out to be legitimate.

[Spur]

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/rumor_100_price_drops_coming_on_apple_iphone_and_i pod_touch/

"We just got a tip that Apple is planning on dropping the prices again on the iPhone and iPod touch line within the next month or two - perhaps at the late February event, perhaps as late as mid-April. Our tipster says that Apple will drop the prices by $100," Cleve Nettles reports for 9 to 5 Mac.

"Also, the 8Gb iPod touch will be dropped from the lineup according to the source. It might also make sense that the 8Gb iPhone would get phased out as well, but it wasn't mentioned in the tip," Nettles reports.

"No specifics were given but the iPod nano line might also be the beneficiary of decreased memory pricing and might see capacities double in size," Nettles reports.

[JAYBEZ]

I am pretty sure that Mac just hates early adopters...

It seems as soon as the early rush is over, they increase features and drop the price two or three times on all their products.

Good, I guess for late bloomers trying to be accepted into the iCult. Bad for those like Spur that gooble up anything mac puts down.

I hope you didn't rush out and buy a Mac Air.

[Spur]

It seems as soon as the early rush is over, they increase features and drop the price two or three times on all their products.
Outside of the iPhone, what else?

Good, I guess for late bloomers trying to be accepted into the iCult. Bad for those like Spur that gooble up anything mac puts down.
Nothing bad about it for me whatsoever. In fact, I am still VERY THANKFUL I got one on the week it came out. It is 10x the phone I had before this purchase AND I got a $100 rebate on something I was going to buy anyway (iPod for mother). iPhone was well, well worth the money I paid and then some....the rebate was just an added benefit for me.

Listen, the first price drop was a tad annoying but this is fine. They are going to phase out the lowest storage and move up.

If people have a problem with that, move on to another product. Just the way technology is these days and price drops are occuring on many products across the board

[eat_sleep_breathe_USC]

I am pretty sure that Mac just hates early adopters...

It seems as soon as the early rush is over, they increase features and drop the price two or three times on all their products.

Good, I guess for late bloomers trying to be accepted into the iCult. Bad for those like Spur that gooble up anything mac puts down.

I hope you didn't rush out and buy a Mac Air.

As an early adopter you have to have to accept that things like this will happen, because when you bought the product the company has no idea how things will work in the market. Not to mention the iPhone has left the early adoption phase...so now they are your normal price cuts. If anyone was listening when the iPhone was soon to be released, Apple told people that another version was right around the corner, with new features and problems fixed. So its up to you to know when you want to buy.

The iCult? Oh please...Apple makes hands down the best mp3 player for your money and the best computers. Popularity tends to come when a product is well made. Apple is known for a simple, bug free interface that anyone can use. I notice you are a very pro-Microsoft person, but whatever floats your boat.

[CockyBill]

If they want to drop the price, so be it.

Early adopters aren't getting screwed. This isn't the first month anymore.

The phone is worth it.

[faet]

The price isn't what I'd be upset about. I think steve said that 3g was coming to the iphone later this year. 3g >>>> edge. Nothing like being able to play video games with the internet off the phone.

[Spur]

The price isn't what I'd be upset about. I think steve said that 3g was coming to the iphone later this year. 3g >>>> edge. Nothing like being able to play video games with the internet off the phone.

For Europe, probably

For the US, it is still a ways away. The future upgrade is WiMax and AT&T just purchased 12Mhz Spectrum for Nationwide WiFi. I suspect Jobs is going at this for an Edge upgrade.

[ultimatetailgater]

looks like this is true.

$100 price cuts could be in store for iPhone, iPod touch

There is one subject that can strike both jubilation and hatred in the souls of Apple fans: price cuts. Apple learned this the hard way when it cut the price on the 4GB and 8GB iPhone (http://www.dailytech.com/Update+Apple+Drops+4GB+iPhone+8GB+Model+Now+399/article8750.htm) just months after its initial introduction.
The $200 price cuts led to a revolt by iPhone customers – this was followed by an apology from Steve Jobs (http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+to+Give+Initial+iPhone+Customers+100+InStore +Credit/article8772.htm) and $100 in-store credit (http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Activates+100+Offer+For+Early+iPhone+Custome rs/article8885.htm) to the Apple Retail Store/Apple Online Store.
If the recent report from 9to5Mac (http://www.9to5mac.com/ipod-iphone-price-drops-coming-soon-299-399-16GB-32GB-453677) turns out to be accurate, there will be price cuts for two popular Apple product lines in the coming months. According to the site, the iPhone and iPod touch will get $100 price cuts across the board.
The recently-introduced 16GB iPhone and 32GB iPod touch (http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Bumps+Storage+Capacity+on+iPhone+iPod+touch/article10580.htm) will drop from $499 to $399 while the 16GB iPod touch will fall to $299. 9to5Mac reports that the 8GB iPhone and 8GB iPod touch will drop to $299 and $199 respectively before being discontinued altogether.
Falling flash prices are cited as the reason for the price cuts on the two product lines. In the case of the iPhone, Apple may also be looking to clear a path to provide a comfortable pricing point for an iPhone with 3G capabilities.
One should look no further than to Creative to see the falling costs of NAND flash memory used in portable media players (PMPs). Creative announced its 32GB Zen player in December 2007 and priced it at $329 (http://www.dailytech.com/Creative+Announces+32GB+ZEN+Portable+Multimedia+De vice/article9885.htm). Two weeks ago, Creative dropped the price of the 32GB Zen to $299 (http://www.dailytech.com/Creatives+32GB+Zen+PMP+Now+Priced+at+299/article10623.htm).
9to5Mac's inside sources provided no details on other flash-based products like the iPod nano and iPod shuffle. Hopefully Apple's generosity on its higher end products will also extend to its bottom-feeders as well.


http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Apple+iPhone+iPod+touch+to+Receive+Price+Cu ts/article10740.htm

8GB versions also appear to be getting the price cuts.

[Spur]

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/27/apple_exec_iphone_not_married_to_single_carrier_mo del.html

Speaking at the Goldman Sachs Investment Symposium, Apple chief operating officer Tim Cook stated that the iPhone isn't beholden to the one-carrier strategy used so far, even if it makes the most sense from a business standpoint.

Cook made the observation when asked why Apple hadn't seen fit to offer either an unlocked version or multi-carrier offerings from the outset, noting that the particular conditions of the US and the initial launch made it impractical to try and satisfy every carrier and user. For Americans, Apple would have had to release at least two iPhones -- one for CDMA networks and one for GSM -- potentially making the learning process overly complex for the public.

This model could change over time, he says, but the ultimate plan is to provide the best possible experience early on. The existing tie-in with AT&T gave Apple a large amount of coverage while allowing both companies to be themselves, and a simple experience for first-time users.

"We're not married to any business model," Cook explained. "What we're married to is shipping the best phones in the world."

He added that for some areas to get the iPhone, it might be necessary to drop even staple features of most cellphone services. Some areas rarely if ever offer post-pay (subscription) cellphone service, for example, which would require a setup process devoted solely to prepaid options.

This isn't a sign of things Apple will or won't do in the market, Cook warned investors.

The officer also reiterated that there would always be a certain level of hacking no matter how widespread the phone might be, if simply because the demand exists. When users outside of official areas are "stepping over each other" to import iPhones, that indicates significant potential, he said.

The Apple senior staffer also noted that the iPhone's price cut to $399 during the holidays wasn't just a reaction to customers who thought the device was too expensive. It helped build momentum and a user base for the upcoming SDK, which he said would let programmers "only be limited by [their] imagination."

Beyond the iPhone, Cook acknowledged but downplayed concerns that the market for digital music players was oversaturated and cooling off. In a rare admission, the COO admitted that sales for the iPod shuffle had lagged by 17 percent worldwide during the holidays and was the key factor behind new price cuts that should help rekindle sales.

There was also likely some cannibalization of iPhone sales by the iPod touch, but the iPod sold well and needed to be out in the market to set the groundwork for the Wi-Fi mobile platform it represents, he said.

However, Cook reassured investors and analysts at the Goldman Sachs event by characterizing the iPhone as the company's greatest chance at success to date. Apple is still on track to sell its 10 million iPhones by the end of 2008, he said -- a statement that sent the company's share price up over 3 percent in after-hours trading.

The iPhone is already an "incredible accomplishment," he said, but has far more potential in the long term. "I need a word bigger than 'enormous' to describe it."

[JAYBEZ]

It isn't married to one carrier because people are hacking them and forcing them to be open to more carriers. He just wants to find a way to be making money off of that venture, with a carrier partnership, instead of people just finding the loophole.

[Spur]

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/03/04/native.myspace.iphone.app/

MySpace is in the midst of developing a native iPhone and iPod touch application, Electronista has learned. Although details of what the app involves remain closely guarded, the product is known to be the result of early SDK access and is described as impressive compared to current mobile versions of the social networking site. Whether it will support MySpace's signature music and video services is unknown, though neither are likely given the lack of a native Adobe Flash port for the handset or else iPhone-friendly content on the site's servers.

The project is nonetheless known to be well into development despite a small amount of staff assigned to the project on a part-time basis. A finished version is not promised for Thursday's software development kit (SDK) presentation and may hinge on the announcement at Apple's campus before it can be released, though whether this is for code- or distribution-related reasons is uncertain. Electronista is working to confirm more of these details.

The information appears to confirm one of the first native third-party apps for the iPhone and iPod touch developed with official tools. While numerous native programs have been written for the platform so far, all but Apple's own have been programmed for 'jailbroken' devices hacked to run unsigned code. These are likely to need rewrites before they can be officially supported through Apple's system, which may require approval for at least purchasable apps.

[garnet4ever]

iPhone opens to Exchange e-mail
http://cwflyris.computerworld.com/t/2907677/160966662/101904/0/ (http://cwflyris.computerworld.com/t/2907677/160966662/101904/0/)


IDG News Service 3/6/08

Nancy Gohring, IDG News Service, Seattle Bureau
Enterprise bans on iPhones may be lifted with the announcement on Thursday that the iPhone will support Microsoft Exchange e-mail.

[Spur]

Shortages are being found across the country for iPhone

Looks like the new iPhone will be released in the next few months with 3G and a slew of other new features

I am EXTREMELY excited

[Spur]

ATT 3G update as iPhone looms

http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/05/22/att-3g-update-as-iphone-looms/

AT&T’s (T) 3G network is almost done. Like 73% complete as of today. Nearly totally covered, well except for the 27% that will be finished later this year that is.

Just weeks away from the hotly anticipated launch of Apple’s (AAPL) 3G iPhone, AT&T - the exclusive telco sales partner to Apple in the U.S. - says next month “six remaining markets” will get a 3G network upgrade. The company goes on to say that it has 3G in 275 markets and “by year-end, the AT&T 3G network will be available in nearly 350 markets.”

Don’t be confused, be reassured. If you buy a hot new 3G phone from AT&T, it will certainly zip along at top network speeds as long as you aren’t trying to use it in those markets where it isn’t yet available.

Apple is expected to introduce the sleeker, faster iPhone early next month and start selling the phone by the end of June. AT&T is under the gun to get the entire network up to speed so its coveted iPhone users don’t flood the customer service department with complaints about inadequate 3G connections and broken promises.

[go_carolina_528]

For Europe, probably

For the US, it is still a ways away. The future upgrade is WiMax and AT&T just purchased 12Mhz Spectrum for Nationwide WiFi. I suspect Jobs is going at this for an Edge upgrade.
AT&T is going to upgrade to LTE not WiMax. Sprint is the only company that is going to use WiMax. (Verizon, Alltel also are going to use LTE)

[Spur]

AT&T is going to upgrade to LTE not WiMax. Sprint is the only company that is going to use WiMax. (Verizon, Alltel also are going to use LTE)
Ya, that was from awhile ago

I completely blew that prediction

:lol:

I really thought 3G was a ways away for the iPhone

[Spur]

3G Phone coming out in the next week or so!

[The Dude]

its just a phone...

an unfortunate but necessary evil.

[Spur]

its just a phone...

an unfortunate but necessary evil.
Well no

It's a phone, ipod, calender, computer, and other things all in one

[The Dude]

Well no

It's a phone, ipod, calender, computer, and other things all in one

we are truly a slave to our "things"
even if one serves the role of several.

[ultimatetailgater]

3G Phone coming out in the next week or so!
Everything I've seen says it'll be annouced at Steve Job's keynote on the 9th and then released possibly by the 15th which would match the original launch pattern of 1 week after the keynote.

[Spur]

I was incorrect

I meant to say it will be introduced on the 9th and sold thereafter

I can't wait

[ultimatetailgater]

Ya, I want one badly as well. My Moto Razr is falling apart

[cboom4250]

the new iphones are supposed to be amazing.

i'm just looking forward to the software update next week for my 1st gen iphone. should be a good one.