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Crazy_Gamecock
12-03-2007, 04:59 AM
What is your logical prediction now that we have gotten to see the team's strengths and weaknesses?
I think if we continue to have this defensive lapse throughout the year it will be a damn long year.

Vs. Providence (Philly) L
Vs. Baylor W
Vs. C of C W
Vs. UC Irvine W
Vs. Radford W
Vs. UNC Asheville W
@ Vandy L
Vs. Tenn. L
@ Arky L
Vs. Fla. L
@ UK L
Vs. UGA W
@ Miss. W
Vs. Vandy W
@ UGA W
Vs. Bama W
@ Fla. L
Vs. Miss St. W
Vs. LSU L
@ Aub. W
Vs. UK L
@ Tenn. L

so my prediction is 16-14 (7-9)
Barely good enough for the NIT. Not good enough to save Dave's job.

evilpoptart
12-03-2007, 09:56 AM
I dont think the team wins against Georgia or Vanderbilt.

NastyNash
12-04-2007, 04:52 PM
Vandy i think will that the sec this year

uscnoklahoma
12-04-2007, 10:42 PM
I think the crazy in your name spells it out....you're crazy. I want you take off your glasses and look at the schedule one more time....are you sure. I said 17 game earlier...now truthfully I see 12 maybe. Yep, it's that bad. We can't rebound.

Crazy_Gamecock
12-05-2007, 01:49 AM
I think the crazy in your name spells it out....you're crazy. I want you take off your glasses and look at the schedule one more time....are you sure. I said 17 game earlier...now truthfully I see 12 maybe. Yep, it's that bad. We can't rebound.

You actually have to take a look at the stats so far for the season. Go to secsports.com and check our stats against some of the other teams in the SEC. I fully think we can win 16.

Dietz
12-05-2007, 08:33 AM
South Alabama took Vandy to the wire the other night, I'm not sure how go SA is, but to me, Vandy looked weak and very, very white, lol

Crazy_Gamecock
12-05-2007, 08:58 AM
South Alabama took Vandy to the wire the other night, I'm not sure how go SA is, but to me, Vandy looked weak and very, very white, lol

I am convinced that Vandy is very overrated. They may be undefeated, but with the schedule they have played, it is possible we could be too.

Adiossuck
12-05-2007, 10:19 AM
You actually have to take a look at the stats so far for the season. Go to secsports.com and check our stats against some of the other teams in the SEC. I fully think we can win 16.


and looking at those stats i noticed by going off of overrall record only... we're already in 12th place at 4-4.

gamecockref
12-05-2007, 10:44 AM
We seem to be competetive,, but we don't know how to win... really, we should have beat George Mason and NC State at least and that puts us at 6-2...

it must be that we are young or bad coaching... put prob. both.. (more on the coaching though)

superstar90
12-05-2007, 11:41 AM
Good thing is that we are a young team, and without injuries will get better as the season goes along. Last year we had most of our play come from upper classmen, so what we started with we finished with. This team should get better, so I'm hoping some of the things we do wrong will be corrected. I'm thinking if we can win some close games we should go .500 in SEC or maybe a game or two over. So far we have lost to good teams, and beat the teams we should have by large margins.

Thursday game may be the most important of the season. If we can come out and play good, this team may start to grow up. I don't believe this team can handle 3 or 4 more games playing bad and keep it together. We need to get on a roll and ride until conference play.

roosterrizk1
12-05-2007, 02:03 PM
I also saw that same white Vandy Team destroy Ga Tech folks. Also, Miss St has too much size for us. We may luck up and win 12-14 games.

uscnoklahoma
12-05-2007, 02:06 PM
You actually have to take a look at the stats so far for the season. Go to secsports.com and check our stats against some of the other teams in the SEC. I fully think we can win 16.

I hope you're right man....I really do. :thumbsup:

OLDCOCK
12-05-2007, 02:19 PM
12 wins at most ----I have always been a ODOM suporter but I believe we need some new blood ! Odom cant get it done!

hardcock2
12-05-2007, 02:34 PM
Miss St. and Ole Miss both will beat us, but we can possibly beat LSU.

Vandy may be 'white', but they play "smart" and will beat us.

I think we may and that's a big MAY, be able to sneak out with a win against UK....and possibly a very young UF team....but I highly doubt it.

I'm callin' Anthony Grant as we speak.

jellafever
12-05-2007, 02:35 PM
I am convinced that Vandy is very overrated. They may be undefeated, but with the schedule they have played, it is possible we could be too.

There's a big difference between possibility and reality. You think we too could possibly be undefeated if we had played Vandy's schedule to date (which I think is a stretch). But Vandy actually is undefeated. Meaning they're better than us. That's why we won't be them at home this year as you predicted, and we'll be lucky to steal one from Georgia. If we don't steal one from Georgia, I don't see us beating an SEC East opponent. Auburn, Miss, and possibly Miss. St are our only wins that I forsee.

jellafever
12-05-2007, 02:37 PM
12 wins at most ----I have always been a ODOM suporter but I believe we need some new blood ! Odom cant get it done!

I say 13 at most.

roosterrizk1
12-05-2007, 03:47 PM
Miss St is better than you think ....

Click
12-05-2007, 03:57 PM
We'll surprise some people and end up winning 17-18 games.

M.C.
12-05-2007, 09:44 PM
we wont do good

roosterrizk1
12-06-2007, 12:18 AM
Vandy just finished off Wake. Saw Auburn, they suck.

Crazy_Gamecock
12-06-2007, 12:29 AM
There's a big difference between possibility and reality. You think we too could possibly be undefeated if we had played Vandy's schedule to date (which I think is a stretch). But Vandy actually is undefeated. Meaning they're better than us. That's why we won't be them at home this year as you predicted, and we'll be lucky to steal one from Georgia. If we don't steal one from Georgia, I don't see us beating an SEC East opponent. Auburn, Miss, and possibly Miss. St are our only wins that I forsee.

So you're saying we couldn't beat Austin Peay (3-4) ; Toledo (1-7) ; Valpo (6-1) ; Utah State (5-4) ; Bradley (6-3) ; South Alabama (6-3) ; Georgia Tech (4-4)

A lot of people have told me I am crazy and my name fits, but I think you deserve to take the first part of my moniker after that comment. You are definitely crazy to think with that kind of powder puff start that we wouldn't be undefeated.

Crazy_Gamecock
12-06-2007, 02:09 AM
and looking at those stats i noticed by going off of overrall record only... we're already in 12th place at 4-4.

I know you went by overall record but I am going by averages. Now while these averages are skewed a bit because of different variables, only a couple teams have out of this world numbers because they have faced cupcakes the whole way so far. So here it goes, these are averages I came up with using www.secsports.com (http://www.secsports.com/) and their statistics for each team. These numbers are why I give us a chance against each team.

USC Vs. UGA:
USC- Points: 72.4 FG%: 42% REB: 37.3 TO: 12.6 Steals For: 6.8
UGA- Points: 71 FG%: 43.9% REB: 40 TO: 15.3 Steals For: 7.4

USC Vs. Ole Miss:
USC- P: 76.1 FG%: 43.8% REB: 36.8 TO: 14.9 ST: 6.4
UM- P: 80.4 FG%: 45.9% REB: 42 TO: 14.8 ST: 7.4

USC Vs. Vandy:
USC- P: 77.4 FG%: 44.1% REB: 37 TO: 14.3 ST: 7.2
VU- P: 76 FG% 45.7% REB: 37.6 TO: 16.1 ST: 6.6

USC Vs. Bama:
USC- P: 77.8 FG%: 44% REB: 38.5 TO: 12.9 ST: 6.9
UA- P: 71.6 FG%: 42.6% REB: 41.2 TO: 14.3 ST: 6.5

USC Vs. Miss. St.:
USC- P: 71.6 FG%: 41.1% REB: 37.4 TO: 12.4 ST: 7.7
MSU- P: 68.7 FG%: 42.8% REB: 40.6 TO: 16.1 ST: 5.8

USC Vs. Auburn:
USC- P: 72.8 FG% 43.4% REB: 36.8 TO: 14.5 ST: 7.4
AUB- P: 69.3 FG%: 45.5% REB: 37 TO: 16.5 ST: 9

Crazy_Gamecock
12-06-2007, 03:35 AM
and looking at those stats i noticed by going off of overrall record only... we're already in 12th place at 4-4.


After posting the averages I also wanted to post the opponents’ winning percentage for each SEC team so that most of our doomsday gamecock fans can see we’ve had a pretty tough 8 games so far compared to other SEC teams.
First we will do the overall standings of each division, then I will go best to worst opponent winning % for each division.

SEC East

1) Vanderbilt 8-0
2) Florida 9-1
3) Tennessee 8-1
4) Georgia 5-1
5) Kentucky 4-2
6) South Carolina 4-4

SEC West

1) Mississippi 6-0
2) Arkansas 7-1
3) LSU 5-2
4) Auburn 4-2
5) Alabama 4-3
6) Mississippi St. 4-3

Now we will rank the teams by each division according to their SOS so far in the season.

SEC East

1) South Carolina opponent win %: .600
2) Kentucky opponent win %: .560
3) Vanderbilt opponent win %: .554
4) Tennessee opponent win %: .517
5) Georgia opponent win %: .417
6) Florida opponent win %: .378

SEC West

1) Alabama opponent win %: .640
2) Arkansas opponent win %: .586
3) Mississippi St. opponent win %: .532
4) Auburn opponent win %: .525
5) LSU opponent win %: .489
6) Mississippi opponent win %: .458

As you can tell, so far in the season it doesn’t matter that we are 4-4, we have played better opponents. Let’s not worry about being “last in the SEC” until we start SEC play.
:bballcoc: :bballcoc: :bballcoc: :bballcoc: :thumbsup:

UgSaCmecocks
12-06-2007, 08:49 AM
What is your logical prediction now that we have gotten to see the team's strengths and weaknesses?
I think if we continue to have this defensive lapse throughout the year it will be a damn long year.

Vs. Providence (Philly) L
Vs. Baylor W
Vs. C of C W
Vs. UC Irvine W
Vs. Radford W
Vs. UNC Asheville W
@ Vandy L
Vs. Tenn. L
@ Arky L
Vs. Fla. L
@ UK L
Vs. UGA W
@ Miss. W
Vs. Vandy W
@ UGA W
Vs. Bama W
@ Fla. L
Vs. Miss St. W
Vs. LSU L
@ Aub. W
Vs. UK L
@ Tenn. L

so my prediction is 16-14 (7-9)
Barely good enough for the NIT. Not good enough to save Dave's job.



Just what it is........A Prediction!!
so you see us winning 5 in a row then losing 5 in a row then winning 5 in a row. Then it goes win, lost, win lost.... odd season?


Here's a stat in our major mens sports we are all on a loosing streak!

Here's another spooky thought football 6-6 basketball 4-4
A .500 win percentage

USCMusicMan
12-06-2007, 07:05 PM
I know you went by overall record but I am going by averages. Now while these averages are skewed a bit because of different variables, only a couple teams have out of this world numbers because they have faced cupcakes the whole way so far. So here it goes, these are averages I came up with using www.secsports.com (http://www.secsports.com/) and their statistics for each team. These numbers are why I give us a chance against each team.

USC Vs. UGA:
USC- Points: 72.4 FG%: 42% REB: 37.3 TO: 12.6 Steals For: 6.8
UGA- Points: 71 FG%: 43.9% REB: 40 TO: 15.3 Steals For: 7.4

USC Vs. Ole Miss:
USC- P: 76.1 FG%: 43.8% REB: 36.8 TO: 14.9 ST: 6.4
UM- P: 80.4 FG%: 45.9% REB: 42 TO: 14.8 ST: 7.4

USC Vs. Vandy:
USC- P: 77.4 FG%: 44.1% REB: 37 TO: 14.3 ST: 7.2
VU- P: 76 FG% 45.7% REB: 37.6 TO: 16.1 ST: 6.6

USC Vs. Bama:
USC- P: 77.8 FG%: 44% REB: 38.5 TO: 12.9 ST: 6.9
UA- P: 71.6 FG%: 42.6% REB: 41.2 TO: 14.3 ST: 6.5

USC Vs. Miss. St.:
USC- P: 71.6 FG%: 41.1% REB: 37.4 TO: 12.4 ST: 7.7
MSU- P: 68.7 FG%: 42.8% REB: 40.6 TO: 16.1 ST: 5.8

USC Vs. Auburn:
USC- P: 72.8 FG% 43.4% REB: 36.8 TO: 14.5 ST: 7.4
AUB- P: 69.3 FG%: 45.5% REB: 37 TO: 16.5 ST: 9

:thumbsup: sounds good to me! As long as this team makes improvements, we still have a great chance in the SEC. Right now its hard to scale each opponent to each other, but that seems to bee as good as it gets right now and I like how the future looks.

Crazy_Gamecock
12-07-2007, 08:11 PM
Just what it is........A Prediction!!
so you see us winning 5 in a row then losing 5 in a row then winning 5 in a row. Then it goes win, lost, win lost.... odd season?


Here's a stat in our major mens sports we are all on a loosing streak!

Here's another spooky thought football 6-6 basketball 4-4
A .500 win percentage

You also have to look at who we are facing in those streaks. The first winning streak should now hopefully be a 6 game win streak. Then we face 5 of the better teams in the SEC, then we face off against all the teams I believe we can beat. you have to logically look at the schedule.

uscnoklahoma
12-16-2007, 06:09 PM
Well NC State and Penn State pretty much suck...so much for those that thought they were good. Even East Carolina rolled NC State.

willy
12-16-2007, 06:48 PM
Just what it is........A Prediction!!
so you see us winning 5 in a row then losing 5 in a row then winning 5 in a row. Then it goes win, lost, win lost.... odd season?


Here's a stat in our major mens sports we are all on a loosing streak!

Here's another spooky thought football 6-6 basketball 4-4
A .500 win percentage


I agree with you.

superstar90
12-16-2007, 08:53 PM
Well now UK is 4-4, so how do you think the wildcat fans feel? Based on what I have seen from the SEC there is no reason we can't play with everyone, and if we can develop some more, we can win our share. I'm thinking we are going to be around .500 in SEC play. If we can win the rest of our ooc games and have a .500 conf. record, that would be enough for the tourney. I believe just like in football this past season in that the SEC has a lot of parity in bball. We didn't take advantage of that in football, so lets see what can happen in bball.

kre25
12-17-2007, 12:43 AM
After posting the averages I also wanted to post the opponents’ winning percentage for each SEC team

Now we will rank the teams by each division according to their SOS so far in the season.

SEC East

1) South Carolina opponent win %: .600
2) Kentucky opponent win %: .560
3) Vanderbilt opponent win %: .554
4) Tennessee opponent win %: .517
5) Georgia opponent win %: .417
6) Florida opponent win %: .378

SEC West

1) Alabama opponent win %: .640
2) Arkansas opponent win %: .586
3) Mississippi St. opponent win %: .532
4) Auburn opponent win %: .525
5) LSU opponent win %: .489
6) Mississippi opponent win %: .458



Isn't SC's opponent winning % better because they beat SC?
I think that it's to early to tell what anyone has, the real tough games start in January, then you'll know what you have or don't have!

superstar90
12-17-2007, 09:00 AM
Isn't SC's opponent winning % better because they beat SC?
I think that it's to early to tell what anyone has, the real tough games start in January, then you'll know what you have or don't have!


That's true about the %, but if that doesn't help any look at the teams themselves. You see Vandy's schedule above. I think UF has played no one but FSU, and FSU beat them by 14 I believe. I don't know the rest of them, but whether these teams are good or not is yet to be known. At least they are big name schools. NcState, Clemson, PSU, Prov., Baylor, and George Mason(not a big school, but doing well in bball). I don't think we are going to roll through anyone in the SEC, but I don't see many teams running over us either in the SEC.

WayzUp
12-17-2007, 09:32 AM
Until we get into our conference schedule, it's all just guessing. UK just got beat by UAB for cryin' out loud. This year's football season could carry over to basketball season & it could be a free-for-all in terms of any team being able to beat another any given night. If we play as well as we did through the 3/4 of the Providence game, we could surprise more than a few people this year.

I think 16-18 wins, depending on how we gel/improve over the course of the season. Rebounding needs to improve DRAMATICALLY though....