Providence Problem?

[donbgamecock]

Providence has a pretty good record but I really haven't evaluated them. How do they match up with us? Just by looking at their record (5-1 with thier only loss to Miami who is 7-0) I figure they are going to give us all we can handle, and then some, unless we make some big changes.

Any opinions? Has anyone watched Providence play?

Go Cocks!

[hardcock2]

They beat Temple who's usually solid, Arkansas who is ranked, and BC who isn't bad. As you said, their only was AT an undefeated Miami.

Not looking good.

[CockyChrisCox]

We will lose by 15.

Providence is a tourney caliber team

[jstrom]

We will lose by 15.

Providence is a tourney caliber team

I hope you're not being serious. We are actually a tournament caliber team that just isn't playing well right now. Clemson is a team that has been beating the snot out of everyone, but other than the start we got off to, refused to let them pull away and clawed our way back into it. What cost us in that game and at least one other was the physical play inside and our lack of aggressiveness by any big men. I doubt we lose, but either way, it will probably be pretty close at the end.

[jellafever]

Jstrom I admire your optimism but, sadly, youre mistaken. I guarantee you that USC will not make the NCAA tourney this year (unless we luck up and win the SEC tourney, which wont happen). We will be lucky to make the NIT and personally I think we should decline it. I would hate to see us go out in the first round of the NIT.

Finally, I saw a few minutes of a Providence game earlier this season. They looked like a very fundamental team. They won't make mistakes and will force downey to pass the ball. This means we will lose by at least 15. write it down.

[CaptainCrunch]

We will lose by 15.

Providence is a tourney caliber team

I hope you are wrong

[jellafever]

Maybe someone should start a bet about tonights game.

-Win by 10 or less
-Win by 10 or more
-Lose by 10 or less
-lose by 10 or more.

[JoeMorrison]

I saw where they are excellent at forcing turnovers which is something we've had problems with, ie. Clemson's pressure D. If we can play our style of game, and not take bad shots, we have a chance.

[brat]

Providence is "old style", team oriented, smart play basketball. Five scorers in double figures. That doesn't happen by accident.

Carolina is "new style", run and bomb from outside, because you don't really have a plan basketball.

[jellafever]

Providence is "old style", team oriented, smart play basketball. Five scorers in double figures. That doesn't happen by accident.

Carolina is "new style", run and bomb from outside, because you don't really have a plan basketball.

Exactly. I have been saying that since the start of the season. I know we have a lot of problems (no big man, dont box out, etc), but I think our biggest problem is that we give away too many points on the offensive end of the court and sometimes actually give the other teams points after we commit turnovers. It seems to me that if Devan Downey doesn't have anything to work with after he tries to push it for a fast break then he and everyone else has no idea how to run an offensive play. Then we end up making bad passing and commiting turnovers. Just watch the game tonight and see if you notice what i have been noticing: If our initial fast break is stopped by the other team getting back on defense then we dont have any idea how to run an offensive set.

[superstar90]

I'll take 50 on that we will stay w/in 15. Just like mentioned above, they play old school which means low scoring games. If we happen to be hitting the three ball, we may win. Definitely will keep it close if shooting well.

[jellafever]

It could be a close game but I dont see us winning unless we have a lot of fast breaks that we complete instead of being stopped by the defense. That is our only strength right now, and Ross's 3 point shooting.

[roosterrizk1]

They are a better Team than us but as a Gamecock you have to hope that we win.....

[ColaCock]

i hope we win but i'm saying providence by 17

[Forkcock]

We ain't going to the dance by hitting the 3 ball.

[jstrom]

Jstrom I admire your optimism but, sadly, youre mistaken. I guarantee you that USC will not make the NCAA tourney this year (unless we luck up and win the SEC tourney, which wont happen). We will be lucky to make the NIT and personally I think we should decline it. I would hate to see us go out in the first round of the NIT.

Finally, I saw a few minutes of a Providence game earlier this season. They looked like a very fundamental team. They won't make mistakes and will force downey to pass the ball. This means we will lose by at least 15. write it down.

First, I never said we would make the NCAA Tourney. I said we have a NCAA Tourney caliber team that isn't playing to the level they can right now. Secondly, getting an invitation to play in any postseason tournament is better than not getting an invitation to one, and I believe that declining wouldn't be fair not only to the players and coaches, but also to the rest of us COCKS! fans who aren't so pessimistic. Lastly, now that the game is over, you might want to edit that last sentence. I didn't write it down and will never have that attitude about anything related to the COCKS! Everyone who says things like that (yes, I said the dreaded EVERYone) tend to habitualize that approach to things when times get tough. I'm glad the players and coaches don't buy into your philosophies.

[garnet4ever]

We will lose by 15.

Providence is a tourney caliber team

I'm glad you were wrong bro ... :wink:

[TheGuitarCock]

I love it when people don't support the team and say we will lose then it bites them in the ass.

[ConwayGamecock]

We will lose by 15.

Providence is a tourney caliber team Finally, I saw a few minutes of a Providence game earlier this season. They looked like a very fundamental team. They won't make mistakes and will force downey to pass the ball. This means we will lose by at least 15. write it down. i hope we win but i'm saying providence by 17
I hope you guys don't bet on these games in real life!!


:lol:

[ConwayGamecock]

I love it when people don't support the team and say we will lose then it bites them in the ass.

You and me both!!

:wink:

[ROWDY ROOSTER]

jella and cola hope you two go to the doctor tomorrow and get a antibiotic for that foot in mouth disease you have

[brat]

Believe it or not, I support the team, but until DO shows he can really win, you know, something substantial...winning SEC record, NCAA invitation (1 out of the last 12 years, including the last four years at Wake), I will not support him.

Sometimes getting rid of a coach is the only way in hopes of finding improvement. Sometimes not. I go on past history and past records and past style of play, and the general malaise that has surrounded Carolina basketball since his arrival.

DO is a nice guy and is liked in the coaching fraternity, but that doesn't mean we can't do much better with a coaching hire. Might do worse, but you can't do much worse, so I am willing to roll the dice. Again, NCAA's or adiós, Dave. No more time, no more excuses, no more credibility. Of course, I have no power to make that so, hence no need to fret.

I liken him to Brad Scott. Nice guy, poor coach and he ground our team into nothing. Felt sad for him when he was fired, but what do you think would most likely have happened had he stayed. More of the same. Methinks, some of you must have blown a gasket when he was dismissed. Hell, I was probably the last fan of Paul Dietzel in town, so I have patience, but only so much.

[roosterrizk1]

I too am excited about the win but Dave still has some proving to do IMO. I will say this Team has potential, lets sit back and see what happens. Maybe we can be like the Clemson Fans, Fire Bowden Fire Bowden then he goes 9-3 and every Tater in SC is in his jock now....Karma can be a byatch !!! :wink:

[Sides]

Believe it or not, I support the team, but until DO shows he can really win, you know, something substantial...winning SEC record, NCAA invitation (1 out of the last 12 years, including the last four years at Wake), I will not support him.

Sometimes getting rid of a coach is the only way in hopes of finding improvement. Sometimes not. I go on past history and past records and past style of play, and the general malaise that has surrounded Carolina basketball since his arrival.

DO is a nice guy and is liked in the coaching fraternity, but that doesn't mean we can't do much better with a coaching hire. Might do worse, but you can't do much worse, so I am willing to roll the dice. Again, NCAA's or adiós, Dave. No more time, no more excuses, no more credibility. Of course, I have no power to make that so, hence no need to fret.

I liken him to Brad Scott. Nice guy, poor coach and he ground our team into nothing. Felt sad for him when he was fired, but what do you think would most likely have happened had he stayed. More of the same. Methinks, some of you must have blown a gasket when he was dismissed. Hell, I was probably the last fan of Paul Dietzel in town, so I have patience, but only so much.


You are going to take any forum you can get to bash Odom. He coached a good game and the team played a good game. Save it for another night, or better yet after the season is over.

[brat]

That's how polarized we have become. On the other thread I mentioned it was a nice win, good foul shooting, and hope we can build on it, and left it at that. However, when some posters take a win as a chance to be critical of fans who have been critical of Odom, as I have been, unabashedly so, I will return the fire.

When you have two vastly polarized groups as we have over this program, these unfortunate things happen. I am more than willing so shut my yap until when and if the likely outcome of our season seems certain. It does get tiresome to write or read the same pro or con arguments. This is year three or four of these same sides fighting. There is nothing either side can say to change the mind of the others as things stand right now, so I'll giive it a rest. Que sera, sera.

[gotrice?]

I have a philosophy. Don't b!tch about things that can't be changed. That being said it would not help our team to fire Odom midseason so how about everyone save it until the season is over. Lets support the team and stop the constant whining about how much you hate Odom. Nothing is going to come of it until the season is over so enough is enough.

[Forkcock]

I don't hate Odom. I really hope that he would win here because he is exactly the type of person that you want to represent your school. I have nothing but respect for him as a person. I'm just not sure that he turn us into a consistant winner. If he hasn't done it by now, I doubt he ever will.

[WayzUp]

Finally, I saw a few minutes of a Providence game earlier this season. They looked like a very fundamental team. They won't make mistakes and will force downey to pass the ball. This means we will lose by at least 15. write it down.
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[GamecockInPA]

I go on past history and past records and past style of play, and the general malaise that has surrounded Carolina basketball since his arrival.

...so you've felt this way about every coach since McGuire?

I've been a fan of USC basketball since John Roache had me in my back yard shooting foul shots and dreaming big dreams.

Duke is in a position now, after decades of excellence, where they don't really recruit --- blue chippers send in their film and hope. Carolina, after DECADES of malaise, has to work its ass off to get second-tier recruits to consider us. That's the way it is.

I am not here to support DO -- a coaching change wouldn't bother me, but it sure wouldn't convince me that things would improve. I got over that when we hired Bill Foster.

But it seems perfectly plausible to me that DO is an above-average recruiter, and it's simply harder than you or I can possibly imagine to recruit here. That after 6 years he began to show real progress and bring in some really, really talented freshmen (and lure home some top-notch transfers) is pretty good, compared to our history. If he could to it for 2 or 3 years in a row, it would be the best since 1978.

As to his coaching, I can remember him changing up his style completely a few years back to take advantage of the talent he had (becoming a running, pressing team). I've been frustrated by the results this year, but watching them last night, it's very clear this is a talented team that's remarkably green, and IS GETTING BETTER.

If you're a fan, then quit thinking the team owes you a thing, and start hoping that they win, instead of gleefully cheering for losses. If you're not a fan, then go find another team that you can cheer for.

I'd like to read and talk about USC basketball. It's become impossible on this board, and this used to be the best place on the 'net.

Geez.

[WayzUp]

...so you've felt this way about every coach since McGuire?

I've been a fan of USC basketball since John Roache had me in my back yard shooting foul shots and dreaming big dreams.

Duke is in a position now, after decades of excellence, where they don't really recruit --- blue chippers send in their film and hope. Carolina, after DECADES of malaise, has to work its ass off to get second-tier recruits to consider us. That's the way it is.

I am not here to support DO -- a coaching change wouldn't bother me, but it sure wouldn't convince me that things would improve. I got over that when we hired Bill Foster.

But it seems perfectly plausible to me that DO is an above-average recruiter, and it's simply harder than you or I can possibly imagine to recruit here. That after 6 years he began to show real progress and bring in some really, really talented freshmen (and lure home some top-notch transfers) is pretty good, compared to our history. If he could to it for 2 or 3 years in a row, it would be the best since 1978.

As to his coaching, I can remember him changing up his style completely a few years back to take advantage of the talent he had (becoming a running, pressing team). I've been frustrated by the results this year, but watching them last night, it's very clear this is a talented team that's remarkably green, and IS GETTING BETTER.

If you're a fan, then quit thinking the team owes you a thing, and start hoping that they win, instead of gleefully cheering for losses. If you're not a fan, then go find another team that you can cheer for.

I'd like to read and talk about USC basketball. It's become impossible on this board, and this used to be the best place on the 'net.

Geez.
:clap:

[ColaCock]

I hope you guys don't bet on these games in real life!!


:lol:
well i'm glad we won...we did it by one point, but i was just being honest and realistic with my prediction. after watching the game, in 10 matchups i still say providence wins 7 of them. we had a lot more opportunities from the FT line and that made the difference in this game. props to our young team though for staying level and not getting into foul trouble as much and giving up the easy points.

you can't tell me that you are extremely excited about the win last night. i mean, yeah, we won...but could have easily lost it and certainly didn't put them away like we should if we are going to be a tourney team.

[garnet4ever]

...so you've felt this way about every coach since McGuire?

I've been a fan of USC basketball since John Roache had me in my back yard shooting foul shots and dreaming big dreams.

Duke is in a position now, after decades of excellence, where they don't really recruit --- blue chippers send in their film and hope. Carolina, after DECADES of malaise, has to work its ass off to get second-tier recruits to consider us. That's the way it is.

I am not here to support DO -- a coaching change wouldn't bother me, but it sure wouldn't convince me that things would improve. I got over that when we hired Bill Foster.

But it seems perfectly plausible to me that DO is an above-average recruiter, and it's simply harder than you or I can possibly imagine to recruit here. That after 6 years he began to show real progress and bring in some really, really talented freshmen (and lure home some top-notch transfers) is pretty good, compared to our history. If he could to it for 2 or 3 years in a row, it would be the best since 1978.

As to his coaching, I can remember him changing up his style completely a few years back to take advantage of the talent he had (becoming a running, pressing team). I've been frustrated by the results this year, but watching them last night, it's very clear this is a talented team that's remarkably green, and IS GETTING BETTER.

If you're a fan, then quit thinking the team owes you a thing, and start hoping that they win, instead of gleefully cheering for losses. If you're not a fan, then go find another team that you can cheer for.

I'd like to read and talk about USC basketball. It's become impossible on this board, and this used to be the best place on the 'net.

Geez.

great post :thumbsup: I'll chat with you about USC Basketball ... don't stop posting ...

[GamecockInPA]

you can't tell me that you are extremely excited about the win last night. i mean, yeah, we won...but could have easily lost it and certainly didn't put them away like we should if we are going to be a tourney team.
Do you watch, um, college basketball games? They end this way, kind of a lot. A tourney team playing another potential tourney team needs to learn to win when it's close, because these games ALWAYS get close. That's what this team appears to be starting to learn how to do.

You could see them tighten up with 5-6 minutes left, and they started missing shots. I'd bet that hanging on to win will give them a big confidence boost. Soon, those shots at the end of the game will go in, and they'll maintain a 10 point lead over a good team.

That fella McDermont (sp?) is a quality player. He took that team on his back and played a hell of a half. I look forward to watching Holmes or Raley-Ross do the same thing, when they're as experienced as he is. Thing is, our guys looked pretty close to me, last night.

BTW, it sure looked like a well-coached team. They attacked that zone very well, and played good defense. Certainly didn't look like street ball. Well, except when Downey got creative... :-)

[Go Cocks]

...so you've felt this way about every coach since McGuire?

I've been a fan of USC basketball since John Roache had me in my back yard shooting foul shots and dreaming big dreams.

Duke is in a position now, after decades of excellence, where they don't really recruit --- blue chippers send in their film and hope. Carolina, after DECADES of malaise, has to work its ass off to get second-tier recruits to consider us. That's the way it is.

I am not here to support DO -- a coaching change wouldn't bother me, but it sure wouldn't convince me that things would improve. I got over that when we hired Bill Foster.

But it seems perfectly plausible to me that DO is an above-average recruiter, and it's simply harder than you or I can possibly imagine to recruit here. That after 6 years he began to show real progress and bring in some really, really talented freshmen (and lure home some top-notch transfers) is pretty good, compared to our history. If he could to it for 2 or 3 years in a row, it would be the best since 1978.

As to his coaching, I can remember him changing up his style completely a few years back to take advantage of the talent he had (becoming a running, pressing team). I've been frustrated by the results this year, but watching them last night, it's very clear this is a talented team that's remarkably green, and IS GETTING BETTER.

If you're a fan, then quit thinking the team owes you a thing, and start hoping that they win, instead of gleefully cheering for losses. If you're not a fan, then go find another team that you can cheer for.

I'd like to read and talk about USC basketball. It's become impossible on this board, and this used to be the best place on the 'net.

Geez.

I'm with you 100%. I used to love to come here and read knowledgeable posts about Carolina basketball, but it's really been a drag now that it's been hijacked by ignorance.

[Adiossuck]

you can't tell me that you are extremely excited about the win last night. i mean, yeah, we won...but could have easily lost it and certainly didn't put them away like we should if we are going to be a tourney team.


personally i am very excited, the way our D played against clemson and the 2 heartbreaking losses earlier in the year i was worried a potential NCAA tourny team like Providence could beat us by maybe 10+. This by far is the best win of the season and i certainly feel a lot better going into the Baylor game 5-4 instead of 4-5

plus the SEC can finally thank us for something... not getting the SEC swept in the invitational :lol:

[superstar90]

I got one thing to say. Where my money, b!t#hes? Does "write it down" equal "I'll take the bet"?

[garnetgolfr]

A WIN IS A WIN!!!!!

[FoghornLeghornCock]

I love how some complained about our only winning by a couple of points after thinking before the game we had no chance to win it at all. As Rosanne Rosanadana of SNL always said "It is always something".

[ColaCock]

Do you watch, um, college basketball games? They end this way, kind of a lot. A tourney team playing another potential tourney team needs to learn to win when it's close, because these games ALWAYS get close. That's what this team appears to be starting to learn how to do.

You could see them tighten up with 5-6 minutes left, and they started missing shots. I'd bet that hanging on to win will give them a big confidence boost. Soon, those shots at the end of the game will go in, and they'll maintain a 10 point lead over a good team.

That fella McDermont (sp?) is a quality player. He took that team on his back and played a hell of a half. I look forward to watching Holmes or Raley-Ross do the same thing, when they're as experienced as he is. Thing is, our guys looked pretty close to me, last night.

BTW, it sure looked like a well-coached team. They attacked that zone very well, and played good defense. Certainly didn't look like street ball. Well, except when Downey got creative... :-)

I watch lots of college basketball games. Mostly UNC games. You can say it anyway you want and try to excuse the play...but I just don't quite agree with your theory on winning close games. Of course you want to win them, it builds confidence...I agree there. But you don't want to keep putting yourself in the position to come from behind or make it a close game always...because truth be told, Providence certainly isn't gonna be the toughest competition we face all year. Especially if a tourney berth is in the forecast.

In my opinion, our only decent win this year has been against Penn State where we came out and played well. I know it is still early, but when you haven't reached conference play...you like to get all the confidence you can by trying to get ahead early and score a lot of points so you can get ahead and do some different things that might be beneficial later in the season. Getting ahead and allowing the younger players to get in is important as well. Pushing the limits against these kinds of opponents is just something I don't favor.

I'm still waiting to judge this team and decide how well we will do come conference play. I try my hardest to watch USC basketball, but it gets aggravating and I can hardly finish watching the game. I always feel like we are stuck in this echelon of play and can't get out no matter what. Thank God I was young and not wise enough to know better when younger and took UNC to be my favorite team...I watch all of their games and (of course this sounds like it goes without saying) I always notice a huge difference in the play, poise, and general flow of the games. UNC always plays there game and makes others adjust to it...hardly do they make a big change in their lineup or gameplan to accomodate a certain defense or opponent's gameplan. My Cocks seem to be the other way around. We are getting decent at the half court game...but just can't do it all. Lots of things frustrate me, so I try not to watch when I can help it.

As I have said before, maybe I should just keep my USC basketball opinions to myself because I don't want to come across as "that guy" or the ones who come to the CockPit during football season and have nothing positive to say. I guess I just try to be realistic and honest as possible. A reason you won't hear me really call for Odom's job because realistically...I don't see our program advancing so much right now- for many reasons.

Whew.

[Sides]

I watch lots of college basketball games. Mostly UNC games. You can say it anyway you want and try to excuse the play...but I just don't quite agree with your theory on winning close games. Of course you want to win them, it builds confidence...I agree there. But you don't want to keep putting yourself in the position to come from behind or make it a close game always...because truth be told, Providence certainly isn't gonna be the toughest competition we face all year. Especially if a tourney berth is in the forecast.

In my opinion, our only decent win this year has been against Penn State where we came out and played well. I know it is still early, but when you haven't reached conference play...you like to get all the confidence you can by trying to get ahead early and score a lot of points so you can get ahead and do some different things that might be beneficial later in the season. Getting ahead and allowing the younger players to get in is important as well. Pushing the limits against these kinds of opponents is just something I don't favor.

I'm still waiting to judge this team and decide how well we will do come conference play. I try my hardest to watch USC basketball, but it gets aggravating and I can hardly finish watching the game. I always feel like we are stuck in this echelon of play and can't get out no matter what. Thank God I was young and not wise enough to know better when younger and took UNC to be my favorite team...I watch all of their games and (of course this sounds like it goes without saying) I always notice a huge difference in the play, poise, and general flow of the games. UNC always plays there game and makes others adjust to it...hardly do they make a big change in their lineup or gameplan to accomodate a certain defense or opponent's gameplan. My Cocks seem to be the other way around. We are getting decent at the half court game...but just can't do it all. Lots of things frustrate me, so I try not to watch when I can help it.

As I have said before, maybe I should just keep my USC basketball opinions to myself because I don't want to come across as "that guy" or the ones who come to the CockPit during football season and have nothing positive to say. I guess I just try to be realistic and honest as possible. A reason you won't hear me really call for Odom's job because realistically...I don't see our program advancing so much right now- for many reasons.

Whew.

So your a North Carolina fan and you don't finish watching all the South Carolina games.

We know UNC doesn't play a lot of close games because they are the best team in the country. I would prefer USC to play that way also but that is not a realistic expectation for this team at this point in the season. We beat a quality opponent on a neutral court tonight. We just need to keep getting quality wins before conference play and set ourselves up in SEC play for a tourney birth. That would be a solid season to build on.

[roosterrizk1]

UNC ............... Hell, I'll pull for Purnell and Clemson first .............. :thumbs:

[uscnoklahoma]

I watch lots of college basketball games. Mostly UNC games. You can say it anyway you want and try to excuse the play...but I just don't quite agree with your theory on winning close games. Of course you want to win them, it builds confidence...I agree there. But you don't want to keep putting yourself in the position to come from behind or make it a close game always...because truth be told, Providence certainly isn't gonna be the toughest competition we face all year. Especially if a tourney berth is in the forecast.

In my opinion, our only decent win this year has been against Penn State where we came out and played well. I know it is still early, but when you haven't reached conference play...you like to get all the confidence you can by trying to get ahead early and score a lot of points so you can get ahead and do some different things that might be beneficial later in the season. Getting ahead and allowing the younger players to get in is important as well. Pushing the limits against these kinds of opponents is just something I don't favor.

I'm still waiting to judge this team and decide how well we will do come conference play. I try my hardest to watch USC basketball, but it gets aggravating and I can hardly finish watching the game. I always feel like we are stuck in this echelon of play and can't get out no matter what. Thank God I was young and not wise enough to know better when younger and took UNC to be my favorite team...I watch all of their games and (of course this sounds like it goes without saying) I always notice a huge difference in the play, poise, and general flow of the games. UNC always plays there game and makes others adjust to it...hardly do they make a big change in their lineup or gameplan to accomodate a certain defense or opponent's gameplan. My Cocks seem to be the other way around. We are getting decent at the half court game...but just can't do it all. Lots of things frustrate me, so I try not to watch when I can help it.

As I have said before, maybe I should just keep my USC basketball opinions to myself because I don't want to come across as "that guy" or the ones who come to the CockPit during football season and have nothing positive to say. I guess I just try to be realistic and honest as possible. A reason you won't hear me really call for Odom's job because realistically...I don't see our program advancing so much right now- for many reasons.

Whew.

You my friend have no right to ever question anything any of us true Gamecock fans talk about from here on out...at least we aren't secretly Tarhole fans. :-x:-x I know now to disregard any criticism you level at my criticism of the football, basketball, or baseball teams.

But that being said....I actually agree with most of what you said. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[jellafever]

Alright everyone I was wrong. Im a big man and I can admit it when I'm wrong. However, we did play a hell of a lot better in this game than we have been playing the last 5 or so games. We actually attempted to run somewhat of a cohesive offensive scheme. I thought we did a better job passing against their zone defense than Ive seen us pass against a zone defense in the last two years. Also, it definitely didn't hurt us that they had the same number of turnovers as field goals in the first half, so maybe we should commend our D. Finally, I have no problem admitting it when I'm wrong. Actually, being a gamecock fan and everything, I'm actually glad I was wrong because that means we won. One thing i dont respect, though, is people coming on here after we win and trying to call me out for my prediction. Where were you before the game? Hindsight is always 20/20.

[jstrom]

As I have said before, maybe I should just keep my USC basketball opinions to myself because I don't want to come across as "that guy" or the ones who come to the CockPit during football season and have nothing positive to say. I guess I just try to be realistic and honest as possible. A reason you won't hear me really call for Odom's job because realistically...I don't see our program advancing so much right now- for many reasons.

Whew.[/quote]

Too late.

[ColaCock]

http://tactical-graphic-design.com/download-clipart-files/humor-funny/clip-art-humor-i-give-up.gif

Wait a second guys...let me explain.

Regarding the UNC allegiance...I can't help it really. We talked about this a little in the Locker Room once before, but anyways:

I have been pulling for the Tarheels, in basketball only, since I was a little boy. I had no clue if they were a good team or if they sucked at that age or how they would be when I am much older now. I basically just pulled for them because they were always on television and I would see their games more...so it kinda stuck with me. Also at that age I hadn't grasped the concept of a university having multiple sports...so I thought the South Carolina Gamecock football team was more like a pro team...I suppose that is how my brain worked, I dunno? I knew to pull for Gamecock football when it came to football, with no exceptions. I can't even really pull for a NFL team these days because all I care about is Gamecock football and they are in different LEAGUES.

Anyhow, been pulling for them ever since in basketball but certainly pull against them in football and baseball. Flame away.

I still bleed garnet and would never pull for UNC over USC, no matter the sport...basketball would just be a tad bittersweet I suppose, but I've never had to deal with it yet.

I guess when I watch a lot of UNC games and see the way they play...then last night I have my Cocks to watch and I see stuff like that, it really shows some differences. I'll bet most of the ones who only watch USC games will hardly notice some of these things. I'm not saying we SUCK...I never would say that. You won't usually see me bash or really say anything negative about any of our teams...although you can probably usually sense how I feel about one. I hope all our programs succeed...I just try to be realistic and observe which one's can or can't. Is that horrible of me? Maybe I am wrong to compare a team like UNC to USC...there are many many variables I am totally aware of that seperate us from them, some out of our control or damn near impossible to prevent (e.g. recruiting)...I guess its out of habit.

[dgusc06]

Go Cocks! All of you people who were talking about how we would lose by 15 and we are so terrible, open mouth and insert foot!

[NastyNash]

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Wait a second guys...let me explain.

Regarding the UNC allegiance...I can't help it really. We talked about this a little in the Locker Room once before, but anyways:

I have been pulling for the Tarheels, in basketball only, since I was a little boy. I had no clue if they were a good team or if they sucked at that age or how they would be when I am much older now. I basically just pulled for them because they were always on television and I would see their games more...so it kinda stuck with me. Also at that age I hadn't grasped the concept of a university having multiple sports...so I thought the South Carolina Gamecock football team was more like a pro team...I suppose that is how my brain worked, I dunno? I knew to pull for Gamecock football when it came to football, with no exceptions. I can't even really pull for a NFL team these days because all I care about is Gamecock football and they are in different LEAGUES.

Anyhow, been pulling for them ever since in basketball but certainly pull against them in football and baseball. Flame away.

I still bleed garnet and would never pull for UNC over USC, no matter the sport...basketball would just be a tad bittersweet I suppose, but I've never had to deal with it yet.

I guess when I watch a lot of UNC games and see the way they play...then last night I have my Cocks to watch and I see stuff like that, it really shows some differences. I'll bet most of the ones who only watch USC games will hardly notice some of these things. I'm not saying we SUCK...I never would say that. You won't usually see me bash or really say anything negative about any of our teams...although you can probably usually sense how I feel about one. I hope all our programs succeed...I just try to be realistic and observe which one's can or can't. Is that horrible of me? Maybe I am wrong to compare a team like UNC to USC...there are many many variables I am totally aware of that seperate us from them, some out of our control or damn near impossible to prevent (e.g. recruiting)...I guess its out of habit.


GO DUKE!!!!!

[ColaCock]

GO DUKE!!!!!

:lol:....86-72, 79-73.

[superstar90]

okay now, that's enough acc bball talk on here! :) Take it somewhere else. Seriously though, just beat clemson I'm your fan. I pull for UNC over Duke usually because my wife used to be crazy about duke before college.

[Adiossuck]

Seriously though, just beat clemson I'm your fan. I pull for UNC over Duke.

im actually the other way around, dont care much for either team but go duke, i love their bball student section... always come pumped up no matter what opponent or how duke is doing. and that includes mens and womens basketball.

but anyway on to SC, though like many have said we seem to struggle putting teams away or next opponent, Baylor, earlier in the year was beating #6 WSU by atleast 10 but choked the lead and the game away later in the game. so i think we'll be able to beat baylor without a late run at the end by the bears.

[ColaCock]

okay now, that's enough acc bball talk on here! :) Take it somewhere else. Seriously though, just beat clemson I'm your fan. I pull for UNC over Duke usually because my wife used to be crazy about duke before college.

Exactly...look at the bright side, I get to pull against Clemson double time each year!

[M.C.]

We will lose by 15.

Providence is a tourney caliber teamlol