Nix/USM Speculation (Merged)

[FeartheSpur]

Southern Miss To Speak To Nix

Kevin McCrarey
Published: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 | Updated: 4:35 pm

Southern Miss has received permission to speak with USC defensive coordinator Tyrone Nix about its head coaching vacancy. Nix is a former Southern Miss assistant. He has been at USC for three seasons. He is considered a strong candidate to replace Jeff Bowers, who resigned at Southern Miss after 17 seasons.

[CoverTwo]

He'll get the job and do very well there.

[FeartheSpur]

good to hear they are going after him and not him going after them..that means his chances are good

[jaytda4th]

shouldn't we be.. unhappy about this?

[CoverTwo]

Unhappy we are losing him? Yes.

But we should be happy that he could finally be getting a chance to advance in his coaching career.

There are going to be some very good defensive coordinators on the market in the next month or so.

[big cock fan]

hmm interesting, i dont know if i would take it if i was him. He has the chance to have a really good defense next year, one that has quality SEC experience, along with maybe three of the best defensive players in the country with norwood, Jap, and E Cook. He has been plagued with injuries and inexperience all season. For his sake i would take this group to the top of the SEC next year and then get a better job.

[CoverTwo]

Nix has been a coordinator for a long time, if he wants to be a head coach its probably time for him to take an offer..His stock is high right now and he needs to take advantage.

[SpuR48]

hmm interesting, i dont know if i would take it if i was him. He has the chance to have a really good defense next year, one that has quality SEC experience, along with maybe three of the best defensive players in the country with norwood, Jap, and E Cook. He has been plagued with injuries and inexperience all season. For his sake i would take this group to the top of the SEC next year and then get a better job.

Money talks. Also, if he does well as H.C., it will open the doors to another SEC-caliber type program. Ok, maybe not SEC but a better D-1 school at least.

[doccock]

hmm interesting, i dont know if i would take it if i was him. He has the chance to have a really good defense next year, one that has quality SEC experience, along with maybe three of the best defensive players in the country with norwood, Jap, and E Cook. He has been plagued with injuries and inexperience all season. For his sake i would take this group to the top of the SEC next year and then get a better job.

Why not. It's his alma mater. He coached there forever until coming to USC. And he can win there. Southern Miss has always been competitive in CUSA and would continue to be so if he takes the job.
This IS his chance to be a HC and at a good program.
doc

[Gamecock Rob]

If that happens, Orgeron to coach the D. We play Ole Miss the next 2 years, I bet he would love to shove it down their throats.

[Flameout12]

Good luck to Tyrone and hope things go well. You deserve this shot!

[CoverTwo]

Rather have Tenuta than Orgeron.

I still think there is going to be a can of worms opened at Ole Miss regarding Orgeron's tenure there..

[cocknblue]

This is a good thing in the long run for us because it shows that you can come here as a top assistant and move on to become a head coach. That will help attract better assistants.

We would miss him because he is a quality guy...can't get enough of those. But he would do well.

[TheGuitarCock]

so if i said i was happy would that be a bad thing...im not...if i did tho>?

[doccock]

We can and hopefully will do better than Orgeron. He was never a coordinator(he was DL coach) and proved that he's not HC material. We need a proven, young defensive mind. I'd go after the best out there like Muschamp, Tenuta or Pellini. All they can do is say no, but we will be setting the bar high, which our program needs to do. And in the process we may be grooming our next HC for the time when the HBC heads to the golf course.
doc

[bgallup]

As sad as it is, he will be foolish to turn this down. Charlie Strong has been a solid DC at florida for a few years and can bearley get a snif anywhere. Nix should jump on this.

[doccock]

As sad as it is, he will be foolish to turn this down. Charlie Strong has been a solid DC at florida for a few years and can bearley get a snif anywhere. Nix should jump on this.

Nix is a better coach than 3rd and long Strong. Charlie is right where he should be. He has a coordinator title but the actual defense appears to be run by his co coordinator.
doc

[cockofstono]

I hope the people at Southern Miss are not just interviewing him to avoid the issue Ole Miss and A&M have gotten grief for the last couple of days. If they interview him and hire some one with less credentials that would be a shame.

[TalkingHead]

As sad as it is, he will be foolish to turn this down. Charlie Strong has been a solid DC at florida for a few years and can bearley get a snif anywhere. Nix should jump on this.

USM is talking to Strong as well.

[brat]

It would be a perfect fit and perfect timing for Nix if he gets the job.

I think he will do well there and hope he does.

[FinchMcCrunkNasty]

we should hire chan gailey as d coord.

[Snake]

This is a perfect job for Nix.........I hope things work out for him!!

He's an alum.......likes the city of Hattiesburg......perfect First job to have!!

[brat]

My guess is that Gailey mind wind up back in the NFL as an assistant or he miight get the call from someplace like Baylor.

Ogeron, it was hinted by some folks, was involved in questionable recruiting tactics and I don't think SOS would consider him.

SOS will find someone to give us hope. Just please, no more 3 man fronts.

[MBSpur]

i hope he takes the job

[dshocker]

I hate to say this, but I wonder if this is a ploy to keep the BCA off Southern Miss's back. I would hate that any school would do this, and he is part of their family, but I do not sure if he is ready yet.

Strong has definitely gotten the shaft. CS was being "looked at" when he was here.

[dshocker]

i hope he takes the job

I couldn't tell by your sig.... :-x

[Gamecock_4life]

I couldn't tell by your sig.... :-x

lol 4real.......thow it is kinda funny:woo:

[M.C.]

hire orgeron

[TigerFan90]

nix is a great coach he would do a good gob at a head coaching jub i love his enthusiasim on the sideline

[Gamecock History]

Nix has been planning on taking a Head Coaching job somewhere since the start of this season. It has been talked about openly among the coaching staff and even about which assistants coaches and grad. assistants he might take with him wherever he goes.

[Gamecock_4life]

hire orgeron

is this guy good...iv heard alot of people talkin about him

[uscnoklahoma]

Please...PLEASE.....let them offer him the job....Tulsa would benefit and USC would benefit..it's a win win!!!!! Early Christmas.

[horseshoefootball]

I only hope he doesn't take Cooper with him if he goes

[CoverTwo]

I'd worry about him taking Cooper and Reaves (offensive coordinator) with him.

[Cockholio]

I don't think the USM natives are interested in Nix taking over the healm, from what I've read on their rivals site.

[Carolina4Life]

Hey the man deserves a chance. He hasent done that bad here.

[U-Dub Gamecock]

Someone please get John Tenuta on the phone!!

[TalkingHead]

I don't think the USM natives are interested in Nix taking over the healm, from what I've read on their rivals site.

I doubt that he gets the job if their fans are any indication.

[usc90grad]

I'd be surprised if he got a head coaching job, especially at S. Miss. This probably has more to do with a school just wanting to interview a minority candidate.

[hayesnumber76]

if he goes, I want Orgeron I love his energy, and hes a defensive mind... he will know what to do. but I still want Nix..

[blaze]

is this guy good...iv heard alot of people talkin about him

in my opinion he is just a hot name, not much substance. He was hired off of the Southern Cal staff, and he was a position coach.

[COCKDIESEL]

There was a big thing on Espn Radio today where Teh black coaches association was complaining about Texas A&M not even interviewing a minority candidate. For his sake I hope this isn't just USM trying to get an A on that hiring report card.

[TheGuitarCock]

I just talked to my dad...he was at dinner with one of our friends that is good friends with Todd Elis. He told my dad that he called Todd today to ask him about all the Nix rumors and Todd said that Nix basically has his mind up about leaving. This guy my dad was at dinner with is close with all the people in the Gamecock Club and all that. He actually played his keyboard on a boat the Friday before the UT game in Knoxville for all the former players and radio guys. So take it for what its worth. I hate to see Nix leave us.

-TGC

[CoverTwo]

Thanks for the info Guitar, but you should've probably put this in the existing Nix thread.

[TheGuitarCock]

Probably...my bad mods.

[landon06]

Does anyone think if he goes that it could hurt us as far as recruiting is concerned?

[cockfan720]

Does anyone think if he goes that it could hurt us as far as recruiting is concerned?

No, according to another Gamecock site Nix isn't involved with any current prospects. It could have an affect on Jasper's decision to stay or go though...we'll see.

[CoverTwo]

Depends on who we hire..Get someone like Tenuta, Muschamp, Pelini then no.

I think losing Cooper would hurt a lot more than Nix..He seems to be one of our top talent evaluators.

[XLcock86]

This is a perfect job for Nix.........I hope things work out for him!!

He's an alum.......likes the city of Hattiesburg......perfect First job to have!! Yeah I hope he goes.....

[cockman97]

He would be a good fit for there program

[Flameout12]

It could have an affect on Jasper's decision to stay or go though...we'll see.
Jap's decision has nothing to do with coaches. It was recommended to him by NFL folk who understand how his injury impacts his draft status as reported a while back. Dorsey of LSU came back for his Sr. year under similar conditons and now looks to be a 1st rnder.
If Jap enters the draft this year, he could be as low as 5th or 6th since he likely could not work out at the combines at full speed.

[Ga_Gamecock]

No, according to another Gamecock site Nix isn't involved with any current prospects. It could have an affect on Jasper's decision to stay or go though...we'll see.

JMO ... the reason if/when Jap comes back weighs more on draft status ... heck, a guy like pelini - or anyone who would like to use a true 4 man front and keep the DL off the LBers - might be a better deal for Jap and what he/the D could do next year

[LegalCock]

muschamp would be my top choice but I doubt we could sway him to leave unless tuberville heads elsewhere.

[cockfight21]

Coach O!

[LegalCock]

I actually wish they wouldn't consolidate threads so much. It's really a matter of whether you want to sort through the information via a large number of posts in a smaller number of threads or a larger number of threads with fewer posts per thread. Personally, I prefer the later. It's quicker.

[bhusc2002]

I actually wish they wouldn't consolidate threads so much. It's really a matter of whether you want to sort through the information via a large number of posts in a smaller number of threads or a larger number of threads with fewer posts per thread. Personally, I prefer the later. It's quicker.
i may be wrong, but they may do it that way because it saves bandwidth. the guys who own this site pay for it all out of pocket so we dont have to pay anything. so they need all the bandwidth they can get.

[LegalCock]

maybe so. I'm clicking banners, so maybe that will help.

[hardcock2]

I have never seen so many want or hope one of our coaches takes another job.:lol:

Neither Muschamp nor Pelini will come here, and I don't blame them...it would be a step back. They'll get head coaching jobs at good schools very soon.


BTW...I think Nix and USM are good match also.8-)

[tptgamecock]

Does anyone think if he goes that it could hurt us as far as recruiting is concerned?

Mike Morgan said yesterday that most folks don't realize just how important to recruiting coach Nix is and they also don't realize just how much the players love the guy so yea I think it could hurt. But, only based on what Mike said on his show yesterday.

[SportsMom]

If some of you on here don't think Nix has any involvement with our defensive recruits then you are in a dream world. Go ask the players what they think of him and ask the recruits he has been talking to. He works with Coach Cooper on alot of the recruits. He is a joint effort and I can assure you his relationship with recruits would hurt us a little. By the way he is a great guy and people need to realize we lost all of starters during the season and even before. To name a few that come to mind are the Lindsey twins, Jasper, Nathan, Captain, Brandon off and on, Carlos, Emanuel in the beginning. I for one hope he doesn't go but if he is ready to be a head coach I think Southern Miss would be great for him.

[uscfan79]

I hope Nix doesnt leave, but I would be happy for him if he got the Southern Miss job!

If he does leave, why not go for Michigan DC Ron English? His job is in limbo right now without a head coach there yet. Michigan defense is always top notch!

[evilpoptart]

hmm interesting, i dont know if i would take it if i was him. He has the chance to have a really good defense next year, one that has quality SEC experience, along with maybe three of the best defensive players in the country with norwood, Jap, and E Cook. He has been plagued with injuries and inexperience all season. For his sake i would take this group to the top of the SEC next year and then get a better job.

Dont forget about the CAPT!

[woffordcock]

If Miles heads to Michigan, which I hope he does, we should really try and go after Bo Pelini. Doubt it would happen but man how great would that be????

[U-Dub Gamecock]

John Tenuta.. my Christmas Wish for 2007..

Ask Clemson if he can run a defense..

[reddot8481]

woff pelini is on the short list for Nebraska, former assistant and alum. Def won't get him.

[CockyStevo]

I think its pretty ****ed up to say that schools, eg. SMU, are interviewing Nix because he's a minority. He's a damn fine coach who we all knew would be offered a head coaching job sometime very soon, and there are a ton of great gigs to be had right now. SMU would be a fool not to hire him (or offer him) simply because he has the youth, background and experience to kick some ass over there for a good while. Whoever wrote that he did well with all the injuries is dead on, remember that our D is the only reason we have those 6 wins this year. I wish the best for him and his family, but I'd love for him to stay. He's had to deal with some craziness the past few games but I feel that if he stays we'll be incredibly solid on D next year (I hate saying "next year" about USC football). But if he leaves, dear lord I hope we get a great DC!

[crowcutta]

he? he alone? players never make mistakes? its always the coaches fault? do you blame spurrier for lecorn fumbling and andy boyd dropping an easy first down conversion. and your memory of the lsu game is pretty far from what happened.
we were definitely in the lsu game, we led 7-0, then jasper got injured and they proceeded to pound us on their next drive and tied it up. then our offense quickly went 3 and out and punted, we forced a fumble on their next drive but couldnt recover. blame nix for teaching our players to force the fumble but not recover it. they went down and took the lead. next drive at midfield kenny fumbles. we held them on their next two drives, a missed fg and a punt. our next drive blake throws an int at our own 33 yd line so they start off in tremendous field position. we once again force a fg attempt but oh yeah they make our special teams look stupid with the fake and score a td.
opening drive of the 2nd half we once again force them to punt. they scored on their next drive after we turn it over on downs deep in our territory. sure they got yards on us on the ground, theyve gotten yards on the ground against everybody theyve played. blaming nix for the lsu loss is dumb, and not based on anything in reality. if you want the guy fired, fine, but dont bring up reasons that dont make the least bit of sense.

even in the florida and arkansas games people act as though our players are all senior all american first round draft picks in the making with ol tyrone nix holding them back. the defense played bad in both those games and he's the dc so the buck stops with him, but those are two games in two years with him as the sole dc where the defense didnt give us a chance to win the game. sure we gave up tons of yards on the ground to arky but there once again were 3 plays that could have made a hell of a difference if someone on defense makes a play, the fumble we didnt recover, cook being fooled by the trick play, carlos being in perfect position on the mcfadden hb pass but somehow letting the guy make the catch for the td.
florida and arkansas arent exactly bad offensive teams, they've burned just about everyone on their schedule, including teams with more talent on defense than we trotted out against them.

[Championshipcock]

I think that if Nix goes then we should promote Cooper to coordinator.

[airforcecocky]

I think its a good thing. Keeps Steve from having to fire him.

[JAYBEZ]

Rather have Tenuta than Orgeron.

I still think there is going to be a can of worms opened at Ole Miss regarding Orgeron's tenure there..

I agree with you there. I would like to have the Ga. Tech Co-ordinator. But I think he will probably be the next head coach at Tech.

[uscnoklahoma]

If some of you on here don't think Nix has any involvement with our defensive recruits then you are in a dream world. Go ask the players what they think of him and ask the recruits he has been talking to. He works with Coach Cooper on alot of the recruits. He is a joint effort and I can assure you his relationship with recruits would hurt us a little. By the way he is a great guy and people need to realize we lost all of starters during the season and even before. To name a few that come to mind are the Lindsey twins, Jasper, Nathan, Captain, Brandon off and on, Carlos, Emanuel in the beginning. I for one hope he doesn't go but if he is ready to be a head coach I think Southern Miss would be great for him.

Players liking coaches is one thing....coach preparing his players is another....I don't think anyone who buys a ticket cares if he was adopting half the team as his own as long as they aren't playing hard.....recruits and a relationship don't mean jack if the on field performance sucks.

[mic4usc]

hmm interesting, i dont know if i would take it if i was him. He has the chance to have a really good defense next year, one that has quality SEC experience, along with maybe three of the best defensive players in the country with norwood, Jap, and E Cook. He has been plagued with injuries and inexperience all season. For his sake i would take this group to the top of the SEC next year and then get a better job.


and captain and peppers:woo:

[usc90grad]

Other names being mentioned....Ellis Johnson (MSU Def. Cord) or Larry Fedora (OSU Off. Cord).

[GamecockJosh]

I wish him the best of luck.

[Visormaniac]

I hope he stays

[NastyNash]

Ok im glad that he is getting a better coaching job but... who are we looking at. i think we should try and get charlie from UF back

[swampthing]

Nope not Charlie. Lets try and get someone good

[JAYBEZ]

Ok im glad that he is getting a better coaching job but... who are we looking at. i think we should try and get charlie from UF back

Why would you want strong back? He isn't even the top guy in Florida. He was demoted to Co-D Coordinator.

Not to mention his wonderful ability to give up first downs on 3rd and a bunch.

[sc455]

i have eased up on nix in the last week. Imagine you guys had his job for a second and lets really analyze. first you realize that if you are fully healthy you can compete and win those close ones. Now realize you have found out you dont have the lindseys. then brinkley gets hurt, pepper gets hurt and both are gone. then realize that almost everyone else on your team is nicked up and misses a game here or there. Now go back to the beginning of my post and reread that you can compete and be successful on Defense if you have all healthy. bottom line is that he was playing without a full deck and some of those missing cards were aces

[Flameout12]

bottom line is that he was playing without a full deck and some of those missing cards were aces
Even without a full deck, finishing last in the SEC in defense is unacceptable.
And if all of the blame is the players, then this means our defense minus a few missing players has worse players than Vandy, UK, Ole Miss & MSU. But we clearly have outrecruited those programs over the last 4 years.

Whether people are willing to admit it or not, the facts are we have some serious coaching problems with our team & unless we make significant changes, we are almost destined to repeat these problems next year.

And that ain't championship football.

[FlorenceCock]

They were just talking about minority coaches on College Football live and Mark May said that Ty Nix was a prime candidate for a head coaching position somewhere. Said he has done a fantastic job here and deserves a shot to be a head coach somewhere.

[bgallup]

OK!!! If that defense is a Fantastic job i would hate to see a lousy job...


Just saying!

[CockyMarine]

Overall Nix has done a Solid Job at USC...you cant help the injuries. He is the best defensive coach we have had here sinc I can remember. If he goes, and he probably will, I hope we get another quality coach like him or this program will take a few more steps back.

[McNasty]

ok guys, i love tyrone nix. i think he's done a great job the past couple years. with that said, i hope he goes to southern miss. i dont want him to go, and if i could clone him and keep one here i would. but, for his sake, i want him to go. he deserves the HC job and that's where i see him succeeding.

good luck, i hope you get it.

i just hope we can find someone to replace him (even though he cant be).

[mjmiller]

Who do you think his replacement will be if he leaves?

[Nassau Gamecock]

I think Tony Soprano. Run on him, fugitaboutit

[JAYBEZ]

Whoever the new guy is; I bet money he tells us "We will be a more aggressive defense. We are going to blitz from all directions"

[Click]

Whoever the new guy is; I bet money he tells us "We will be a more aggressive defense. We are going to blitz from all directions"


If he says that he'll be welcomed with my open arms!

[COCKROCK]

I think that if Nix takes the job, it would make one of SOS's decisions easier. With that said I hope he gets the job and excels.

[CockyMarine]

I aggree, He should and will take the job. Why wouldnt he? That would be an outstanding oportunity at his alma matter. I wish him the best I just hope Spurrier is able to pull somebody special in for our next DC.

[Click]

I aggree, He should and will take the job. Why wouldnt he? That would be an outstanding oportunity at his alma matter. I wish him the best I just hope Spurrier is able to pull somebody special in for our next DC.


AMEN!

[wincocks84]

So Nix def is interviewing with them or is this just speculation?

[smoovecock]

So Nix def is interviewing with them or is this just speculation?...Out there now.....will take the job if they offer.....

[garnet812]

Nix hasn't gotten it done here. I don't see how anyone can say otherwise. His schemes are way too vanilla and conservative. Our defense has way too much talent to be ranked in the bottom half of the SEC these past two years. Hopefully, Southern Miss does us a favor and takes him off our hands.

[McNasty]

Nix hasn't gotten it done here. I don't see how anyone can say otherwise. His schemes are way too vanilla and conservative. Our defense has way too much talent to be ranked in the bottom half of the SEC these past two years. Hopefully, Southern Miss does us a favor and takes him off our hands.

that's a little harsh.

remember, he cant control the players on the field missing tackles, holes and assignments.

[garnet812]

that's a little harsh.

remember, he cant control the players on the field missing tackles, holes and assignments.
When talented players repeatedly screw up that stuff over and over again, you have to at least hold the coaching accountable to some extent. I look at our defense and I just see poor technique all around, coupled with Nix's mediocre schemes. Nix hasn't shown he can get the job done, time to bring someone else in. And before anyone points out how highly our pass D is rated, seriously.. would you pass much if you're up against a defense that gives up 200+ yards a game? Nix can't make adjustments on the fly, nor does he call a very good game on defense, and teams exploited that all year against him.

[gotrice?]

Nix hasn't gotten it done here. I don't see how anyone can say otherwise. His schemes are way too vanilla and conservative. Our defense has way too much talent to be ranked in the bottom half of the SEC these past two years. Hopefully, Southern Miss does us a favor and takes him off our hands.

His defense and schemes won us UGA, UK, UNC, and Miss St while keeping us in the LSU, Clemson, Vandy, and Tenn games. It was stifling against SC State and did enough to win LaLa. Thats 10 games I counted right there and you know what? We played 12 games this season so 10 games where the defense performed well enough to win even when our offense and special teams absolutely handed our opponents the games at times so our defense played pretty damn well. The Arky and UF games are weighing too much in the minds of our fans because Nix kept us in or won every other game this season. If he leaves it will be a blow to our defense unless we land a great DC.

[Carolina4Life]

WLTX is reporting that NIX maybe leaving?


I think he will & He will be great for the program.

[usc90grad]

WWL Radio is New Orleans is reporting Southern Miss' top two choices are Auburn DC Will Muschamp and FSU OC Jimbo Fisher.

[crowcutta]

apparently all the potential next defensive coordinators here have never had one of their defenses give up 500 yards or 50 points and arky and fla only had big games on offense against us. our defense finished 57th in the nation even after those two horrible games. offense finished 77th, but apparently teams exploited our defense all year long. 5 game losing streak, defense got embarrassed by arky and fla, in the other 3 games, 12 points total given up in the 2nd half, yup 4 field goals. 1st half offense output in the 5 game losing streak, 6, 0, 10, 14, 7. not exactly giving the defense much help. the pass defense was very good this year, to say that it wasnt is going out of the way be negative including saying it was only because teams didnt try or have to pass on us. the only times our pass defense showed cracks is when we started losing people in the secondary.
i of course cant defend us using two defensive linemen sets 99 percent of the time like we supposedly did this season

[happygilmore527]

WWL Radio is New Orleans is reporting Southern Miss' top two choices are Auburn DC Will Muschamp and FSU OC Jimbo Fisher.

I'm curious as to why either of those two would go to Southern Miss. It seems like they could get a shot at a much bigger school.

[YouCanNeverTell]

Those two may be Southern Miss's top choices but Southern Miss ain't their top choice I can promise you that...

[happygilmore527]

Those two may be Southern Miss's top choices but Southern Miss ain't their top choice I can promise you that...

Yeah, I agree with that statement. I think Fisher's stock could have slid a tad due to FSU's offense this year being kind of bad but Muschamp is a hot commodity and will have a big job soon enough.

Any word on Nix's interview?

[TalkingHead]

Yeah, I agree with that statement. I think Fisher's stock could have slid a tad due to FSU's offense this year being kind of bad but Muschamp is a hot commodity and will have a big job soon enough.

Any word on Nix's interview?

I read on USM's Rivals site where Muschamp has said he is not interested. Read their board on Rivals for good insight on Nix at USM.

[uscnoklahoma]

The fans at his own alma mater don't want the guy....that should tell you guys something, but then again...3 years of pitiful defense against the run hasn't told any of you anything so I doubt that will either. 2 lineman Tyrone...all alone.

[McNasty]

after this he probably needs a hug...

remember, the missed tackles and all aren't his fault. you can blame his some, but we dont know what he says to the team. he could be doing all the right things, but they just miss them. performance is on the players. play-calling is on him.

[TalkingHead]

Tye Nix took over a defense at USM that was ranked #8 in the country in total defense. He turned it into #71 in the country in total defense.

I guess it was the players fault at USM for missing tackles that they had been making under the previous DC?

[uscnoklahoma]

Read this quote from a USM fan..hilarious...and yet sad.

"Great. We get rid of a coach with 14 straight winning seasons to hire a coach with no head coaching expence and is the scape goat in South Carolina. Anyone seen Carolina play this season. Nix defense couldn't stop a troop of boy scouts. Give me a break."

[usc90grad]

Read this quote from a USM fan..hilarious...and yet sad.

"Great. We get rid of a coach with 14 straight winning seasons to hire a coach with no head coaching expence and is the scape goat in South Carolina. Anyone seen Carolina play this season. Nix defense couldn't stop a troop of boy scouts. Give me a break."


:rotfl: You gotta laugh so you don't cry. But can't say I disagree with him.

[Flameout12]

Tye Nix took over a defense at USM that was ranked #8 in the country in total defense. He turned it into #71 in the country in total defense.
I guess it was the players fault at USM for missing tackles that they had been making under the previous DC?
That's "disturbing". Whatever happens...we have to make some changes.

It's not the players (cause we have good enough players)...it the coaches.
Everything rises and falls on leadership which is coaching.

And coaching is not just teaching and play calling. It's lots of other things, including keeping the morale and drive of the players at a very competetive fevor.

Somehow we've had some major breakdowns in multiple areas of coaching.

Change has to happen or the outcomes will be the same.

[bgallup]

That's "disturbing". Whatever happens...we have to make some changes.

It's not the players (cause we have good enough players)...it the coaches.
Everything rises and falls on leadership which is coaching.

And coaching is not just teaching and play calling. It's lots of other things, including keeping the morale and drive of the players at a very competetive fevor.

Somehow we've had some major breakdowns in multiple areas of coaching.

Change has to happen or the outcomes will be the same.

IM not sure its all coaching. Sure we do have some good guys on D this year. However, they are all very young. Jasper didnt have a problem making plays last year. Sure some of the coaching could be better but its also hard to play in the SEC with Freshmen and sophmores!

[TalkingHead]

IM not sure its all coaching. Sure we do have some good guys on D this year. However, they are all very young. Jasper didnt have a problem making plays last year. Sure some of the coaching could be better but its also hard to play in the SEC with Freshmen and sophmores!

Lou's last three years here, which I think we all agree we never want to see again, had defenses that finished higher against the run than have Nix's defenses the last three years.

What do we need, more players like Lou had, or different coaching than we are getting now?

[crowcutta]

ypc given up
2002. 4.10
2003. 4.34
2004. 4.06
2005. 4.12
2006. 4.07
2007. 4.85

people are discounting the job he did in 2006 too much, first year as the sole dc, one starter returning. 2007 we were only supposed to lose one starter from the defense. we ended up basically being without 4 of those returning starters this year, all of which happened to be juniors and seniors.
the southern miss fan did have one thing right, scapegoat

[crowcutta]

Tye Nix took over a defense at USM that was ranked #8 in the country in total defense. He turned it into #71 in the country in total defense.

I guess it was the players fault at USM for missing tackles that they had been making under the previous DC?don't know where that information came from but this is what i have.
2000 i think this was the year before nix took over, defense ended up top 5 in the country.
2001, lost 7 starters, finished 11th in total defense.
2002, 34th
2003, 23rd
2004, 57th
black and white stats, take from them what you will. one thing flameout, im not sure we had enough players this season. a lot of the talk lately is youre telling me we dont have the talent to not finish in the bottom half of the sec in defense. how many pundits would say we fielded a top 6 defense talent wise in the sec this year? these were scouts preseason unit rankings for our defense, just throwing it out there, not that scout is the bible.
overall 5th, dline 9th, lb 3rd, secondary 4th. and thats expecting justin lindsey and nathan pepper to be on the d-line, and expecting jasper at linebacker. with that knowledge in hand we would have been bottom 3rd probably in both d-line and lb'ers, maybe 10th or below

[TalkingHead]

don't know where that information came from but this is what i have.
2000 i think this was the year before nix took over, defense ended up top 5 in the country.
2001, lost 7 starters, finished 11th in total defense.
2002, 34th
2003, 23rd
2004, 57th
black and white stats, take from them what you will. one thing flameout, im not sure we had enough players this season. a lot of the talk lately is youre telling me we dont have the talent to not finish in the bottom half of the sec in defense. how many pundits would say we fielded a top 6 defense talent wise in the sec this year? these were scouts preseason unit rankings for our defense, just throwing it out there, not that scout is the bible.
overall 5th, dline 9th, lb 3rd, secondary 4th. and thats expecting justin lindsey and nathan pepper to be on the d-line, and expecting jasper at linebacker. with that knowledge in hand we would have been bottom 3rd probably in both d-line and lb'ers, maybe 10th or below

Those stats came from the SEC.

[Flameout12]

one thing flameout, im not sure we had enough players this season. a lot of the talk lately is youre telling me we dont have the talent to not finish in the bottom half of the sec in defense. how many pundits would say we fielded a top 6 defense talent wise in the sec this year? these were scouts preseason unit rankings for our defense, just throwing it out there, not that scout is the bible.
overall 5th, dline 9th, lb 3rd, secondary 4th. and thats expecting justin lindsey and nathan pepper to be on the d-line, and expecting jasper at linebacker. with that knowledge in hand we would have been bottom 3rd probably in both d-line and lb'ers, maybe 10th or below
I think your thinking about this is totally wrong & trying to defend mediocrity is wrong. Somewhere in here, I think we have some same old die hard Gamecock fans who are not grasping what championship football is all about and instead are here defending why we our defense is in last place.

That facts are we were supposed to be a team that challenged for the SEC-east & in turn we were 2 pts (Vandy OT loss to UT) from being dead last.

And that means coaches sometimes make something out of nothing rather than the other way around. There's not a person on this board who does not know we currently have better players on our defense than Vandy, UK, Ole Miss and MSU. We have clearly out recruited those guys the last 4 years and have more guys in the NFL from USC to prove it. Yet we are the ones in last place in defense.

Great coaches take mediocre talent and make good teams out of them.
It's called mentoring, motivating, teaching and enabling them to win by using the best players the best way possible. This includes having coaches that can overcome their opponents schemes and strengths with smart-heady play calling.

We have a defensive coaching staff that has not shown that ability this year beyond the DB coach. The best coach on our team has to be Coach Coop...at least one of his guys got 1st team All-SEC and that was a Rivals 2-Star that he developed. And Coach Coop has sent guys to the NFL every year so far.

[blaze]

spurrier has said he overestimated the team during the season, pundits were saying in the preseason that we would be where we are, at the bottom. the pundits were saying that next year would be our breakout year.

Personally, I think Nix does a good job putting people in position, minus a couple of stunts here and there. that is the responsibility of the coach to put people in the right place. Granted on the infamous drive from our most hated rivals they weren't in the right place, but can probably be attributed to the players without experience that was in the game due to injury.

what i think people are getting irritated at are people who come on here thinking they know more about personnel and strategy than the coaches. I think that Nix is probably top 15 when it comes to defensive coaches, that is my estimation based upon the respect that he garners from pundits and coaches.

people argue that they don't want him at southern miss, well there are people who don't want spurrier here.

we have turned into a microwave society, and this program was put in such a bad way 3 years ago that it is going to take some baking to get it done.

I think we need to be more patient, let our players develop and stop being so pessimistic, there is another thread that talks about the NFL and where the prospects come from, in most of the lists Florida was in the mention. I wonder who put them in position to do that.

[crowcutta]

our defense wasnt in last place though, 57th in the nation. we didnt have the nfl talent this year on defense, the two guys that we thought had a chance at the nfl next year were forced to move from the positions we wanted them at due to injuries. casper from lb to de and brandon from fs to emergency corner. there's only so much shuffling and scrambling you can do.
we gave up 5.18 yards per play this year, only 4 teams in the sec gave up less than 5. one of the teams that gave up more per play than us was tennessee, and thats one of the dc's who folks on here have been mentioning as a great hire.
ole miss actually had higher recruiting rankings than us 2 of the past 4 years.
2004 recruiting class, we had 3 guys from that class play for us this year on defense. stoney woodson, chris hampton, marque hall.
2005 recruiting class, mike west, nathan pepper, carlos thomas, marvin sapp, gerrod sinclair, brandon isaac, yvan banag.
since tyrone nix became the sold coordinator and getting in his guys youre seeing the talent level increase. 2006 casper, jasper, captain, emmanuel, paulk, kenrick, norwood, stewart, shackleford, reaves. 2007 ajiboye, ingram, matthews, robertson, addison, jo.williams, geathers.

now 2008 we should have the talent and depth in place to not rely on any one player and there shouldnt be any excuses. i think people are taking way too much out of two bad games after the defense carried us for 8 games when we've been wrecked by injuries.
those are all excuses, true, the same excuses we've given to the offense, we're not there yet, we're still building.

[Flameout12]

now 2008 we should have the talent and depth in place to not rely on any one player and there shouldnt be any excuses.
With the exception of Cap Brinkley, Issac & Chris Hampton; it'll be the same basic defense we had last year and this year.
I find it funny that you guys seem to think a few injuries make that much difference. You almost sound as if we are playing with 8 or 9 guys when we someone gets injured.
Is Marvin Sapp really all that bad and incompetent? Didn't ULL run all over us when we had all of these guys healthy? How about the DL guys who filled in for Pepper? Are they so bad that Nathan's retun in 2008 is going to save us? And last year the DE Lindsey was subbing part of the time. Is he really going to make that much difference?
Did not both Spurrier and Nix state that our guys have motivation issues? And is it not the job of the coaches to solve these kinds of problems?
And shouldn't we expect our defense to get better each year rather than progressively getting worse? Is this the way championship football teams build their programs (me thinks definitely not)?

Somehow paying a coach the 19th best salary in the nation should yield a final outcome better than #62 while losing 5 straight games. And that kind of performance should cause the staff's respective superiors to take proper actions to change the direction things are going.

http://coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts.htm

[garnet812]

our defense wasnt in last place though, 57th in the nation. Wooh! Let's give Nix a raise for such a great accomplishment!

There's plenty of coaches out there that got their players to do more (as in finish above 57th in total defense) with less talent. Vanderbilt was 20th in the country in total defense. VANDERBILT!! how many guys do they have on that defense with serious "NFL" talent?

Yep, I'd still say many of our fans have the same loser mentality, trying to defend mediocrity at all costs.

[bigmuthafooka]

Vanderbilt was 20th in the country in total defense. VANDERBILT!! how many guys do they have on that defense with serious "NFL" talent?

i knw one,

DJ VANDY..i mean, DJ MOORE

[crowcutta]

that 57th is 20 spots higher than the offense finished, yet simply changing defensive coordinators will win us the sec? speaking on vandy, they do have a senior middle linebacker who is ranked as the no.1 senior mlb draft prospect by at least one draft service. you don't think vandy would have suffered without him?
and vandy gave up 5.01 yards per play, we gave up 5.18, not much of a difference especially considering they didnt play arkansas. it has nothing to do with a loser's mentality, its about not scapegoating a coach during a 12 game season based on two games against great offenses when he didnt really have his full arsenal at his disposal.

the defense was improved this year, even with the injuries and the two horrible games our total defense improved. exactly it will be the same basic defense, almost everybody coming back and improved depth, thats a good thing.
yes ul laf got some yards against us, so tyrone nix made the necessary changes the next week and we did a solid job the next week against georgia. so i dont know why that ul laf game still gets brought up. yes pepper, the lindseys, jasper all make a huge difference. i didnt say sapp was incompetent but he's not jasper. and yes losing pepper made a huge difference, at that point we lost him on the d-line, forcing us to move casper to de so we lost him at lb. we lost a hell of a lot of experience and depth that we were expecting to have in the front 7.

[morgan n' 7]

Spurrier: Nix has good chance at getting USM job

By Patrick Magee

South Carolina head coach Steve Spurrier spoke about defensive coordinator Tyrone Nix’s chances of getting the Southern Miss coaching job Sunday during a teleconference which he discussed the end to his team's season after no bowl invitation.

“I really think he’s got a good shot at it,” Spurrier said. “I think he’ll be an excellent head coach at Southern Miss. He went there, played there, coached there and this, that and the other. He’s got a lot of experience.

“I always want to see my assistant coaches to move up, and that would be a wonderful opportunity for him.”


http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071202/SPORTS/71202016

[GeathersFan]

I Hope So.

[2000grad]

Friday, they met with Nix on the University plane but did not make an offer. They are still looking at other candidates.

[smoovecock]

USM is going to get alot of heat from the BCA if they dont hire Nix....it is going to get ugly Im afraid.....

[jlong0453]

The defensive coordinator at LSU got a head coaching job some where did he?

[79Cock]

The defensive coordinator at LSU got a head coaching job some where did he?

Nebraska

[Sides]

You have to think Nix really wants this job. He has done good work here and I hope he gets it. I would be disappointed for him if he doesn't.

[jlong0453]

Do u think he will stay if the win the natl championship?

[U-Dub Gamecock]

John Tenuta.. please come to Columbia.. PLEASE!!

[TalkingHead]

USM is going to get alot of heat from the BCA if they dont hire Nix....it is going to get ugly Im afraid.....

It is going to be even uglier with their fans if they hire Nix.

[smoovecock]

It is going to be even uglier with their fans if they hire Nix.......no kidding......I have a fair amount of customers over there and it is about 50-50.....but I will tell you that they think a lot more of thier program than should be...........stuck in the middle of SEC and Big 12 country and not a member of either is a tough sale.......

[Flameout12]

......no kidding......I have a fair amount of customers over there and it is about 50-50.....but I will tell you that they think a lot more of thier program than should be...........stuck in the middle of SEC and Big 12 country and not a member of either is a tough sale.......
A few rungs lower on the ladder than us. That's what UGA and others think of us and our aspirations at SEC greatness. :wink:

[sc455]

i am not sure that usm will hire him now..the unnamed source that leaked last week nix had the usm job and then the subsequent statement by usm reminds me of the orange bowl beano cook debacle of 84..we had an agreement with the orange bowl that backfired on us and i think nix may be in the same position. Most schools pull the trigger fast and if he isnt good enough by now i think he is out of the running.

[smoovecock]

A few rungs lower on the ladder than us. That's what UGA and others think of us and our aspirations at SEC greatness. :wink:......in a way yes....but USM has no facilities and are in bad conf.......they compete on a scale that we have too.......they have had in the past some good clubs and had some big wins but just could never get over the hump in getting the SEC to take them instead of Arky.....

[smoovecock]

i am not sure that usm will hire him now..the unnamed source that leaked last week nix had the usm job and then the subsequent statement by usm reminds me of the orange bowl beano cook debacle of 84..we had an agreement with the orange bowl that backfired on us and i think nix may be in the same position. Most schools pull the trigger fast and if he isnt good enough by now i think he is out of the running.....Honestly I dont think he is good enough to be a HBC but for selfish reasons I hope he gets the job.....he is only 35 and needs a few more years I think....but remember what I said in an earlier post the Black Coaches Assoication is pushing hard for another minority hire this year and it seems to me that they have targeted USM as a prime target for that hire.......

[TalkingHead]

How do I join the BCA?

[uscnoklahoma]

Good luck Nix and the may the force (BCA) be with you. I wish you many successful seasons at USM and at least one loss a year if you play em (Tulsa). Godspeed.

[smoovecock]

How do I join the BCA?......Become a tackle football coach on the college level....

[TalkingHead]

I just do two hands above the waist.

[smoovecock]

so does another defense we love and adore....lol...

[TalkingHead]

I have been flagged for illegal use of the hands many times against that one.

[Sharky]

i am not sure that usm will hire him now..the unnamed source that leaked last week nix had the usm job and then the subsequent statement by usm reminds me of the orange bowl beano cook debacle of 84..we had an agreement with the orange bowl that backfired on us and i think nix may be in the same position. Most schools pull the trigger fast and if he isnt good enough by now i think he is out of the running.

I think this will be one of those deals where they go after big names and keep getting turned down. Then in desperation, they ball back on Nix.

[smoovecock]

I think this will be one of those deals where they go after big names and keep getting turned down. Then in desperation, they ball back on Nix.......that shot might end up right in the middle of the bullseye....

[Crazy_Gamecock]

I don't honestly see how the fans of our team can sit here and be armchair head coach and try to belittle the BCA and Coach Nix, and I'm WHITE! It is a good thing that the BCA rides these programs, as with the NFL too. Look at the majority of these young men that give their health for us to enjoy a drunken saturday. I know some of you like to use the excuse of that is why you pay for your Gamecock club membership and tickets and they are getting a free ride. Well what if some of your dues are going to help the lady volleyball team, not the football team? Are you going to sit and belittle 18-24 year old ladies and the coaches for not spiking the ball correctly? Nix has doen a fine job for USC and was a huge upgrade from Thompson. I think Nix deserves the USM job especially since USM is in his blood. But in the case of the BCA, look at Mr. Charlie Strong, that man has deserved to be a head coach of a good football team since he was at USC and yet he still remains DC at UF. I won't buy for one second that he is totally fine with being the DC of UF. The BCA helps coaches like Nix and Turner Gil and Charlie Strong even get looked at. So for once can we as a fan base put aside stupid prejudices and hope Nix gets the job for the right reasons and if he doesn't welcome him back to the 2008 season like we should. I'll get off my soapbox now.

[JAYBEZ]

I don't honestly see how the fans of our team can sit here and be armchair head coach and try to belittle the BCA and Coach Nix, and I'm WHITE! It is a good thing that the BCA rides these programs, as with the NFL too. Look at the majority of these young men that give their health for us to enjoy a drunken saturday. I know some of you like to use the excuse of that is why you pay for your Gamecock club membership and tickets and they are getting a free ride. Well what if some of your dues are going to help the lady volleyball team, not the football team? Are you going to sit and belittle 18-24 year old ladies and the coaches for not spiking the ball correctly? Nix has doen a fine job for USC and was a huge upgrade from Thompson. I think Nix deserves the USM job especially since USM is in his blood. But in the case of the BCA, look at Mr. Charlie Strong, that man has deserved to be a head coach of a good football team since he was at USC and yet he still remains DC at UF. I won't buy for one second that he is totally fine with being the DC of UF. The BCA helps coaches like Nix and Turner Gil and Charlie Strong even get looked at. So for once can we as a fan base put aside stupid prejudices and hope Nix gets the job for the right reasons and if he doesn't welcome him back to the 2008 season like we should. I'll get off my soapbox now.

Sir,
I am from the forum writers association of american forum writers in america (The FWAAFWA for short). And I ask you to please post abridged versions of your thoughts from this points foward. While valid your points may be, we must look out for the many forum writers that must read through that very small print and very numerous non-breaking paragraphs. Repeating instances like this can have a detrimental effect on the eye health of our members.

Please keep our thoughts in your head... none other are correct.

[smoovecock]

I don't honestly see how the fans of our team can sit here and be armchair head coach and try to belittle the BCA and Coach Nix, and I'm WHITE! It is a good thing that the BCA rides these programs, as with the NFL too. Look at the majority of these young men that give their health for us to enjoy a drunken saturday. I know some of you like to use the excuse of that is why you pay for your Gamecock club membership and tickets and they are getting a free ride. Well what if some of your dues are going to help the lady volleyball team, not the football team? Are you going to sit and belittle 18-24 year old ladies and the coaches for not spiking the ball correctly? Nix has doen a fine job for USC and was a huge upgrade from Thompson. I think Nix deserves the USM job especially since USM is in his blood. But in the case of the BCA, look at Mr. Charlie Strong, that man has deserved to be a head coach of a good football team since he was at USC and yet he still remains DC at UF. I won't buy for one second that he is totally fine with being the DC of UF. The BCA helps coaches like Nix and Turner Gil and Charlie Strong even get looked at. So for once can we as a fan base put aside stupid prejudices and hope Nix gets the job for the right reasons and if he doesn't welcome him back to the 2008 season like we should. I'll get off my soapbox now....No one has said anything about Nix being a black coach.....But it is a known fact that the BCA pushes coaches that are not ready or have experience to be a HBC.....I do belive that Coach Nix will be a damn good HBC one day but not now............he needs a little more seasoning.....BCA does do a lot of good...agreed...but they do play the so called race card a little much.......That said if Nix does not get the job because USM hires a guy who has more experience and or success the BCA should let it lay.....but they wont....

[Crazy_Gamecock]

Sir,
I am from the forum writers association of american forum writers in america (The FWAAFWA for short). And I ask you to please post abridged versions of your thoughts from this points foward. While valid your points may be, we must look out for the many forum writers that must read through that very small print and very numerous non-breaking paragraphs. Repeating instances like this can have a detrimental effect on the eye health of our members.

Please keep our thoughts in your head... none other are correct.

okay, I will just make my non-breaking paragraphs a bigger font for the elderly gamecocks in the crowd, and furthermore.......... nevermind. :rotfl:

[Crazy_Gamecock]

...No one has said anything about Nix being a black coach.....But it is a known fact that the BCA pushes coaches that are not ready or have experience to be a HBC.....I do belive that Coach Nix will be a damn good HBC one day but not now............he needs a little more seasoning.....BCA does do a lot of good...agreed...but they do play the so called race card a little much.......That said if Nix does not get the job because USM hires a guy who has more experience and or success the BCA should let it lay.....but they wont....

The BCa for the most part just wants fair judgement. We're not talking the NAACP here, who tries to pick the littlest fight for publicity. If a university just has one candidate in mind and no others that is unfair to all those coaches white or black. But when you have 6 white candidates and no minority candidates, I don't think the BCA should have to drop the issue.

[smoovecock]

The BCa for the most part just wants fair judgement. We're not talking the NAACP here, who tries to pick the littlest fight for publicity. If a university just has one candidate in mind and no others that is unfair to all those coaches white or black. But when you have 6 white candidates and no minority candidates, I don't think the BCA should have to drop the issue.....I agree but the problem is black coaches or other minority coaches have not been in the bizz as long as the white ones so it is going to take time to stock pile good quality coaches that can get the job done.......that said the BCA has done a very good job of getting coaches into the interview process to get them ready for the next step....now if a school hires a better canidate then they should not have a complaint....What I want to know..why in the hell has Charlie Strong not been mentioned for this job....????...that would be my man......

[U-Dub Gamecock]

I could care less if our coach was green with poke-a-dots.. If he is the best coach out there.. I want him..

Someone mentioned Charlie Strong.. he would make my top 3-4 list for a replacement (for Ty Nix).. And since he is "Co-Defensive Coordinator" right now at Florida.. he might actually come back to Columbia..

[gamecockfinatic2007]

id have a heart attack if charlie came back to columbia.

i dont think itll ever happen.

[smoovecock]

:rotfl: :rotfl: okay, I will just make my non-breaking paragraphs a bigger font for the elderly,.........:rotfl: :rotfl: gamecocks in the crowd, and furthermore.......... nevermind. :rotfl:

[smoovecock]

Do yall remember when we hired SOS...well the BCA made statements about our hire that the process was not fair......OK...tell me one coach..white..black..green..and god forbid orange..would any school hire over SOS.....None and they had to complain....it was very unproffessional on thier part....

[willy]

You have to think Nix really wants this job. He has done good work here and I hope he gets it. I would be disappointed for him if he doesn't.



I hope he gets it too.

[CaptainCrunch]

Do yall remember when we hired SOS...well the BCA made statements about our hire that the process was not fair......OK...tell me one coach..white..black..green..and god forbid orange..would any school hire over SOS.....None and they had to complain....it was very unproffessional on thier part....

oh yeah. ole miss did the same thing this year, I belive and I think the BCA isn't too happy with them either.

[JoeMorrison]

I, for one, could care less if Charlie Strong ever comes back here. His defense were average at best. His schemes were ok till they figured him out.

[thekob]

The BCa for the most part just wants fair judgement. We're not talking the NAACP here, who tries to pick the littlest fight for publicity. If a university just has one candidate in mind and no others that is unfair to all those coaches white or black. But when you have 6 white candidates and no minority candidates, I don't think the BCA should have to drop the issue.

The problem is that they jump to the conclusion that race was a deciding issue if a school happens to not consider a black coach. I doubt they'd have any interest, and would actually be thrilled if a school only considered white coaches. It's a racist witch hunting organization. They're up there on my list with PETA and the current version of the NAACP of organizations that are starved for publicity and will scream at or about anyone in order to get it.

[Championshipcock]

I am the BCA number one fan right now, never thought I would say that after what they did when we hired Spurrier. Hire The Man!

[Sides]

I, for one, could care less if Charlie Strong ever comes back here. His defense were average at best. His schemes were ok till they figured him out.

I am glad someone said that. I feel the same way. And he took the same position with a team in our conference. I don't ever want him to coach at carolina and I don't care if he gets a head coaching job.

[Order 66]

I hope Charlie Strong stays at UF as a "co" coordinator the rest of his life. He deserves it. Traitor...

As for Nix, I hope we find out one way soon, either way. This will hurt recruiting if it drags out.

[happygilmore527]

Apparently, Nix has withdrawn his name from the Southern Miss job according to Southern Miss Rivals board. It was on their local TV station WDAM last night I believe. I don't see a link to the story on their site but several people are reporting it.

[JAYBEZ]

I wish something would hurry and get settled. I don't want us waiting around and missing out on time to go after a replacement.

[U-Dub Gamecock]

I heard the AD over there at USM is a freaking moron.. I think Nix is the local favorite, but the AD wants a guy that is not (in any way) tied to Jeff Bowers.. They actually interviewed Mike DuBose yesterday.. Sounds like that AD needs to get canned

[SC Sandlapper]

Ask yourself honestly, if the teams had comparable talent, would you fear USC playing a team where Nix was the DC or the HC?

I cannot imagine Nix being a "hot property" in the coaching game right now but I wish him all the best wherever he goes.

[TalkingHead]

I heard the AD over there at USM is a freaking moron.. I think Nix is the local favorite, but the AD wants a guy that is not (in any way) tied to Jeff Bowers.. They actually interviewed Mike DuBose yesterday.. Sounds like that AD needs to get canned

If you think the locals want NIx, you obviously have not read any of their fan boards.

[garnetchicken]

Nix pulls out of Southern Miss search

By Joseph Person
The State
Published: December 5, 2007

USC defensive coordinator Tyrone Nix has withdrawn his name from consideration for the head-coaching vacancy at his alma mater of Southern Miss, USC media relations director Steve Fink said today.

The 35-year-old Nix interviewed with Southern Miss officials last week.

Nix was a standout linebacker for the Golden Eagles in the early ‘90s and later coached there for 10 years under Jeff Bower, who resigned last month following 17 seasons at the Conference USA school.

Attempts to reach Nix this afternoon were unsuccessful.

[SNEEZ]

Good to know he feels like he has something to prove!!!

[TheGuitarCock]

So he is staying?

[FinchMcCrunkNasty]

no comment...

[bhall]

He's goin to HC at Michigan...jk.

[usc90grad]

Not bashing Coach Nix, but I hope you know what it means when a coach withdraws their name from a coaching consideration.

[longcock]

Aghhhh!

[CaptainCrunch]

nooo

[JAYBEZ]

Good to know he feels like he has something to prove!!!

Or he just didn't feel like they were giving him a fair go.

They interviewed him a week ago.

There is no reason they should still be stringing this out. They should have made their choice by this point... unless they were just stringing him along as a fall back plan if they didn't get a better candidate.

[JAYBEZ]

Not bashing Coach Nix, but I hope you know what it means when a coach withdraws their name from a coaching consideration.

I hope you are not refering to the old school giving a better deal to stay. Because there is no reason for that to happen.

[usc90grad]

I hope you are not refering to the old school giving a better deal to stay. Because there is no reason for that to happen.

Not at all. Usually when this happens, its a way for the coach to save face since he wasn't going to be offered the job.

[willy]

Good to know he feels like he has something to prove!!!


Yes, I do believe that he has something to prove.

[JAYBEZ]

Yes, I do believe that he has something to prove.

Prove that he can put a respectable defense on the field.

[TheGuitarCock]

lets hope

[hardcock2]

:-| ....yeah, I'd say they were stringing him along...just in case.

[ShutTheSuccop]

IMO, I hope that this places a huge chip on his shoulder and he comes out with a defense with something to prove...I also hope that he comes out with a defense that does not involve two down linemen

[uscfan1]

I don't know what to think. His schemes just don't make sense. The 3-4 when your getting pounded on the ground, giving a 10 yard cushion with the db's on 3rd and 5. Defense are supposed to intimidate the opposing offence and ours has not for some time...at all...good luck i guess???

[leftysrites]

If he stays with us or not, Our Defense has to greatly improve. We can't be sucessful in the SEC unless we do, period! I hope we will.

[Kendalls Daddy]

from So Miss job...Don't think its been posted yet....

Sorry if it has...

[snoopcockycock]

our defense will improve tremendously next season. not only were we incredibly young this season, but with the pandemic of injuries we had, which put even younger players into positions that were NOT their normal positions, we were doomed from the start. plus we will get a tonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
of help, when we get auguste and company in here, from last year. our defense can only improve with all that is falling into place.

[ColaCock]

yep...a few posts down with the same exact title you chose.

[Flameout12]

Or he just didn't feel like they were giving him a fair go.

They interviewed him a week ago.

There is no reason they should still be stringing this out. They should have made their choice by this point... unless they were just stringing him along as a fall back plan if they didn't get a better candidate.
I agree...he saw it for what it was and took matters in his own hands.
He did the respectable thing to do. :clap:

[usc90grad]

Ever had deja vu?

[Kendalls Daddy]

ha...There you go...Nothing better than spreading yesterday's news!!

Guess you heard that Tommy Bowden is a candidate for the Ark job...

[ColaCock]

Ever had deja vu?

i dunno but i called and made an appointment with my optometrist after opening the front page...seeing double.

[ColaCock]

ha...There you go...Nothing better than spreading yesterday's news!!

Guess you heard that Tommy Bowden is a candidate for the Ark job...

nope but i heard that evil coach from Florida is thinking about coming here after Holtz leaves!

[Will4144]

We'll have Jasper Brinkley clogging the middle, our defense will be much improved if he's healthy. No doubt about it.

Think about when we were 6-1.. everyone was talking about Tyrone Nix leaving town and that made us worrisome. Our defense couldn't hold up with a bunch of freshmen and sophomores once Jasper, Nathan, and Captain came out. But guess what.. the entire defense is back next year with those three.

[crowcutta]

this is good, keep some continuity in the staff. only losing casper, ryan brown, joel reaves, cody wells, chris hampton, brandon isaac from the two deep. our defense has to be good, even if jasper isnt there to lead them, build on what they did the first 9 games of the season. next year potentially our only starters on defense who wont be juniors or seniors would be kenrick ellis and ladi ajiboye and even they would have juniors and seniors in the mix at their position with nathan pepper, marque hall, and jonathan williams.
that is hoping that nathan pepper recovers better than his acl injury than hall did, at the very least if nathan comes back and is a solid contributer in the rotation his first year it will be a huge help.

[roosterrizk1]

We were getting pounded with eight man fronts. Nix tried to change scheme's because of our inability to stop the run with a conventional front. At least he tried different things when the norm wasn't working. If he would have stayed with your normal typical defense he would have people bashing him because he didn't try anything else. I know its tough to believe but maybe our defensive players, especially our LB's just weren't that good. I know Marque Hall was dominated pretty much all year at the DT position and I can't blame Nix for that. The biggest problem I had is that it took so long to give Ellis a shot but I think Spurrier may have had something to do with that. I am ok with him coming back. Plain and simple we need more players on Defense and the kids love him.

[IHateOrange]

nope but i heard that evil coach from Florida is thinking about coming here after Holtz leaves!

really?? Bobby Bowden is leaving to coach us??? Awesome LOL

[bgallup]

I cant believe he couldnt hold out a few more weeks. The rumor is USM only had 21 more interviews with canidates before they made there minds up. Hope he did the right thing!

[Click]

We were getting pounded with eight man fronts. Nix tried to change scheme's because of our inability to stop the run with a conventional front. At least he tried different things when the norm wasn't working. If he would have stayed with your normal typical defense he would have people bashing him because he didn't try anything else. I know its tough to believe but maybe our defensive players, especially our LB's just weren't that good. I know Marque Hall was dominated pretty much all year at the DT position and I can't blame Nix for that. The biggest problem I had is that it took so long to give Ellis a shot but I think Spurrier may have had something to do with that. I am ok with him coming back. Plain and simple we need more players on Defense and the kids love him.

Good post! I just wish Nix would be more aggressive on D, have the DB's jamming the WR's on the line of scrimmage, more blitzing, etc. The scheme he uses is not my favorite, but he's a good coach and I believe he'll correct the problems that came up on us this year.

[Ga_Gamecock]

Or he just didn't feel like they were giving him a fair go.

They interviewed him a week ago.

There is no reason they should still be stringing this out. They should have made their choice by this point... unless they were just stringing him along as a fall back plan if they didn't get a better candidate.

who knows what the SMU Admin is thinking ... they fired Bowers after 17 years of gutting it out at the school

i think nix would have been a good hire. hes an alum, likes thes school/area, would take a lot of pride in his work there, etc ...

i just hope they werent using him simply b/c hes black. many times a school will do that just say they looked in that direction before going with their hire ... which is total BS.

[Championshipcock]

This is terrible news. I hope someone else considers him. I am tired of having a poor defense. We haven't had a good defense since 2001.

[talon]

So Miss interviewed Nix but realy wanted someone else. BCA is the reason why

[OLDCOCK]

To bad I believe he really wanted that job! He must know he has to improve his defense 2 fold if he returns here. Hopefully the injury bug will dissappear and some added experience will be a great help.

[usc90grad]

This is terrible news. I hope someone else considers him. I am tired of having a poor defense. We haven't had a good defense since 2001.

Sad, but true.

[usc91ece]

Wonder if Spurrier will bring in a co-coordinator?

[uscnoklahoma]

We were getting pounded with eight man fronts. Nix tried to change scheme's because of our inability to stop the run with a conventional front. At least he tried different things when the norm wasn't working. If he would have stayed with your normal typical defense he would have people bashing him because he didn't try anything else. I know its tough to believe but maybe our defensive players, especially our LB's just weren't that good. I know Marque Hall was dominated pretty much all year at the DT position and I can't blame Nix for that. The biggest problem I had is that it took so long to give Ellis a shot but I think Spurrier may have had something to do with that. I am ok with him coming back. Plain and simple we need more players on Defense and the kids love him.

Stop it with the 8 man fronts....you don't have 8 man fronts unless you are goal line...PLEASE!!! And the fact is we rarely even had 8 men in the box let alone the front.....football 101 folks. I really don't know what games some of you watched. We ran a 4-3, 3-3-5, and some damn 2 man front crap the vast majority of the time.

Now I just want to :sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:

And all of you saying we will be better...We could have NFL players on the field but the fact is they would get toasted by the run in Nix's schemes....damn and I thought 2 man fronts were going to be a thing of the past....oh well....I am officially bummed about next year already. :thumbs:

[akn4bkn]

ah crap. there goes any hope of ever having a good defense, that is if he plans on staying here

[Championshipcock]

ah crap. there goes any hope of ever having a good defense, that is if he plans on staying here
Maybe if Nix isn't picked up by anyone Spurrier will move him to another position and give someone else a shot.

[gamecock ray]

Amen SnoopCock; you said exactly what I was thinking. The defense we saw in the Georgia game is the defense that Nix had planned for the entire season. Unfortunately we ended up with a mash unit.

[WayzUp]

Me, I remember how our defense was doing before the injuries/loss of Jasper set in so I'm glad for the continuity and stability his sticking around will bring.

It'll only help recruiting but Cocky help Nix if he starts experimenting with 2 down lineman again like he did in games the latter part of the year....which I think he did cuz those injuries were getting near impossible to cover up & teams like Arky & UF just ran it right at us. Even the Nix-bashers can't deny injuries played THE role in our defense going from nasty in the first half of the season (where we rode them to #6, don't forget....our offense was worse in the beginning of the season than our defense was toward the end, IMO) to porous and w/o playmakers in the second half of the season.

The run D does have to improve in general but I have nothing but confidence in Tyrone Nix if he has all his weapons at his disposal. Experience and physical maturity to those weapons (12 or more of which were first or second-year SEC players!) will only help. Where all this disappointment that he's coming back is coming from is kind of a mystery to me. He's a Gamecock and a good one at that.

:clap: :wink:

[jayceecock]

Nix did the right thing. He pretty much knew he wasn't going to get the job, so he withdrew.

I think the reason he withdrew is so he can come back and get to work for 2008. The sooner the better for us.

Have faith guys. Nix has already proven at USM that he can coach up a defense. He can certainly do it again.

[TalkingHead]

Nix did the right thing. He pretty much knew he wasn't going to get the job, so he withdrew.

I think the reason he withdrew is so he can come back and get to work for 2008. The sooner the better for us.

Have faith guys. Nix has already proven at USM that he can coach up a defense. He can certainly do it again.

I'd like to see the stats of his mean defense you say he had at USM, because USM fans give very different reports than that for his defenses.

[WayzUp]

I'd like to see the stats of his mean defense you say he had at USM, because USM fans give very different reports than that for his defenses.
There isn't a DC in the country who could compensate with coaching for the losses we had due to injury this year. Stats say what you want them to say. For all we know, those USM defenses that ranked high were loaded with healthy Junior and Senior players. Suppose those guys graduated/got hurt/whatever and he was using young, inexperienced players...throw in a couple injuries and it's not hard to point out why their ranking fell.

I prefer to look at what he and our defense was doing before we lost Jasper, Pepper and others, not to mention the lingering injuries to our safeties and corners. Cliff Matthews was playing out of position a big chunk of the season with a club for a hand....it's disappointing to me to see fans on this board and most others go from praising our defense saying things like "where would we be without our defense???" when they were carrying us & our offense was struggling only to hope like hell Nix leaves town when half his projected unit was lost to injury and he was forced to play guys who obviously weren't ready to play yet.

This is the SEC, folks. Opposing OC's know how to spot and take advantage of any chink in the armor and after bearing the burden of the first half of the season, it wasn't too hard to find them in ours. Give Nix his defense whole, we'll see results like we saw early in the season and he'll be beloved all over again.

[TalkingHead]

There isn't a DC in the country who could compensate with coaching for the losses we had due to injury this year. Stats say what you want them to say. For all we know, those USM defenses that ranked high were loaded with healthy Junior and Senior players. Suppose those guys graduated/got hurt/whatever and he was using young, inexperienced players...throw in a couple injuries and it's not hard to point out why their ranking fell.

I prefer to look at what he and our defense was doing before we lost Jasper, Pepper and others, not to mention the lingering injuries to our safeties and corners. Cliff Matthews was playing out of position a big chunk of the season with a club for a hand....it's disappointing to me to see fans on this board and most others go from praising our defense saying things like "where would we be without our defense???" when they were carrying us & our offense was struggling only to hope like hell Nix leaves town when half his projected unit was lost to injury and he was forced to play guys who obviously weren't ready to play yet.

This is the SEC, folks. Opposing OC's know how to spot and take advantage of any chink in the armor and after bearing the burden of the first half of the season, it wasn't too hard to find them in ours. Give Nix his defense whole, we'll see results like we saw early in the season and he'll be beloved all over again.

Amazing! I can tell you for sure that Coach Spurrier isn't blaming our inability to stop a team committed to running the ball against us for the last three years on injuries.

[uscnoklahoma]

I'd like to see the stats of his mean defense you say he had at USM, because USM fans give very different reports than that for his defenses.
USM never had a decent defense with Nix....some on here won't get that through their heads. You are exactly right.....they didn't want him....they know better...that should tell our fans something but they apparently have their heads in the sand.

Wayzup....As for experimenting with 2 down lineman due to injuries? You have got to be joking. Even Pee Wee coaches know better than to do 2 down lineman...I know why he thought about it but he should have ditched after the first time he tried it and it didn't work. You guys harp on injuries all you want...the fact is we got torched by everyone before those injuries (see powerhouses LALA and SCSTATE). Superman couldn't have helped us on defense in those idiotic schemes. Go look at the stats my man...we have sucked and sucked bad against the run since Nix took the helm. Facts are facts and I really feel sorry for those of you that ignore them...you're going to be in for another letdown against the run this year if we retain Nix, unless someone tells him to never run the 2 or 3 man front again...we don't have the talent or discipline to run such a defense.

[bgallup]

I like the fact he will be back simply for because we wont change everything were doing. These guys will be 1 year older, more time in the system. Maybe it will help us out. I would hate to change the defense with another guy coming in. I think next year is Nix's make it or break it year!

[uscnoklahoma]

I like the fact he will be back simply for because we wont change everything were doing. These guys will be 1 year older, more time in the system. Maybe it will help us out. I would hate to change the defense with another guy coming in. I think next year is Nix's make it or break it year!

It's the system I want gone...it's broke. We can keep Nix if he ditches the system...if not well.....he needs a vacation. We will never win the SEC with this defense...never. You must stop the run and Nix has proven he has no clue on how to do that. We will always look good against the pass..why should anyone pass on us when they can run down our throats?

[roosterrizk1]

Hey oklahoma, go back and look at the Arkie game. We had 8 men in the box. Maybe I shouldn't have said 8 man front but 8 in the box. You know what, maybe you should be the next DC since you know so f%%#ing much.

[cack]

guys ... this has nothing to do with Nix withdrawing his name from the job ... any games/calls this year has NOTHING to do with him pulling his name from the job ... why does everything turn into a pissy i want somebody gone thread

[jayceecock]

I'd like to see the stats of his mean defense you say he had at USM, because USM fans give very different reports than that for his defenses.

Geez, I'm glad I don't believe everything fans say.

2001: Lost 7 starters from 2000
#8 Scoring Defense
#11 Total Defense
#12 Passing Efficiency
#13 Rushing Defense

2002: #4 Passing Efficiency
#10 Pass Defense
#13 Scoring Defense

2003: #5 Pass Defense
#13 Passing Efficiency
#14 Scoring Defense
#23 Total Defense

I would say the man can certainly coach up a defense.

Look at 2006: Carolina only gave up 18.7 ppg
#6 Scoring defense in SEC
#29 Nation Scoring Defense

Some of you are forgetting how young and raw our defense was in 2007. Also with all the injuries, we had guys starting that was playing high school ball the previous year. From high school to the SEC is one big step.

[uscnoklahoma]

Hey oklahoma, go back and look at the Arkie game. We had 8 men in the box. Maybe I shouldn't have said 8 man front but 8 in the box. You know what, maybe you should be the next DC since you know so f%%#ing much.

I would do the job better and cheaper...and that's something I would put $$$ on. You would never see 2 down lineman from me against Arky or UF. :thumbsup: We would run a 5-2 with safeties up against Arky and dare them to throw it...Nix didn't have the smarts to do the obvious. If our corners are as good as some of you think then they would have no problem covering Arky's WR's...correct? I honest to god think you could go get Defense for Dummies at Barnes and Noble and find better schemes. I like the guy, he's passionate, but his schemes are junk.

And we didn't have 8 in the box most of the night against Arky...there were several times we had as few as 5.

[bgallup]

It's the system I want gone...it's broke. We can keep Nix if he ditches the system...if not well.....he needs a vacation. We will never win the SEC with this defense...never. You must stop the run and Nix has proven he has no clue on how to do that. We will always look good against the pass..why should anyone pass on us when they can run down our throats?

I agree something needs to be done about stoping the run. However, I dont see anyone on here bashing Spurrier about not being able to run the last 3 years. Thats 1 good way to slow another teams running game, give your defense a rest. I think next year is the year he has to shine. If he dosent Spurrier will ride himself of any coach who he thinks is holding him back from the SEC! That might be a RB coach, Line Coach, ST coach, whoever!

[uscnoklahoma]

Geez, I'm glad I don't believe everything fans say.

2001: Lost 7 starters from 2000
#8 Scoring Defense
#11 Total Defense
#12 Passing Efficiency
#13 Rushing Defense

2002: #4 Passing Efficiency
#10 Pass Defense
#13 Scoring Defense

2003: #5 Pass Defense
#13 Passing Efficiency
#14 Scoring Defense
#23 Total Defense

I would say the man can certainly coach up a defense.

Look at 2006: Carolina only gave up 18.7 ppg
#6 Scoring defense in SEC
#29 Nation Scoring Defense

Some of you are forgetting how young and raw our defense was in 2007. Also with all the injuries, we had guys starting that was playing high school ball the previous year. From high school to the SEC is one big step.

I am going to make this as plain as I can...CUSA is not the SEC. I am probably one of the few on here who have watched CUSA football over the last 3 years. CUSA is mainly a passing league. They use the pass to set up the run. The fact is....he does not know how to stop the run. See the last 3 years here as evidence. He could probably do great in the PAC 10 but not the SEC. He has to learn how to stop the run. It ain't all his fault...I will agree on that but the truth of the matter is...his schemes are his doing..not his players. It is his job to find the players to work in his scheme and if his players don't fit his schemes then his job is to adapt. I have not seen that from him. Arky torched us the whole game....why not at least say "The hell with it....I am putting 9 in the box and taking my chances with them breaking through or passing the ball" You just attempt that instead of 3 down lineman. I just want to see something that indicates it is the players and not the coach...sadly I didn't see that.

[uscnoklahoma]

I agree something needs to be done about stoping the run. However, I dont see anyone on here bashing Spurrier about not being able to run the last 3 years. Thats 1 good way to slow another teams running game, give your defense a rest. I think next year is the year he has to shine. If he dosent Spurrier will ride himself of any coach who he thinks is holding him back from the SEC! That might be a RB coach, Line Coach, ST coach, whoever!

Spurrier doesn't coach the O Line and that has been our problem...of course the buck stops at Spurrier and I would hope he takes a hard look at our O Line...it hasn't been worth a crap since he and Hunt arrived.

[roosterrizk1]

Dude why don't you for once, just once, bring something positive to this board. You know it all types probably NEVER even played ball, EVER. You have called out Spurrier, Hunt, Nix, heck, why even waste your time. We support OUR COACHES and Team. People like you need to stick with your Rec Ball......:blah:

[uscnoklahoma]

Dude why don't you for once, just once, bring something positive to this board. You know it all types probably NEVER even played ball, EVER. You have called out Spurrier, Hunt, Nix, heck, why even waste your time. We support OUR COACHES and Team. People like you need to stick with your Rec Ball......:blah:
Nah, I never set foot on the field...never. I haven't got a clue.......I am probably the dumbest poster on this board.:thumbsup:If I lived in la la land with the rest of you I would probably hate the realistic posters as well....hell the realistic ones always seem to be right. It would get in my craw as well.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Bottom line is this...we aren't a good football team. You present facts contrary to that and I will shut up.

[WayzUp]

Here's a stat. Of the DL we had on our roster that played, we had two Juniors, one coming off an ACL tear (M.Hall) and one we lost fairly early on (Pepper) and a Senior in Ryan Brown who spent a chunk of time in spring practice trying out at fullback. Casper, correct me if I'm wrong, is a LB playing DE cuz he's just more effective with his hand down but not built to be a run-stopper by any means. The rest, 11 or 12 on the final depth chart, were all Sophmores or Freshmen with one first-year SEC playing JUCO. Um HELLO! Name another SEC team with that kind of youth on D that can stop the run....best of luck.

Give the man big guys like every other defense that does well controlling the line of scrimmage has and you'll start seeing those wonderful stats you keep talking about. How many times does Spurrier have to say our best teams are yet to come before you see that he's right?

My only gripe against Nix and the rest of the defensive staff is why it took so long to give Kenrick Ellis his shot. He's the presence in the middle we lacked the second half of the year & he made more plays in the Clemson game than M.Hall did all year. I give Hall a pass though...he didn't seem completely back from his injury so hopefully he will next year to team up with Ellis and all the other RS's and FR/SO to give Nix a line to work with.

[roosterrizk1]

Nah, I never set foot on the field...never. I haven't got a clue.......I am probably the dumbest poster on this board


At least we can agree on something..........

[uscnoklahoma]

Hey rooster can you tell me what kind of defense a 2 man front is? I am dumb and in need of assistance.

[Lamont Cranston]

Hey rooster can you tell me what kind of defense a 2 man front is? I am dumb and in need of assistance.

Goal line?:rotfl: