Jordin Lindsey Stabbed on Greene St Last Night

[COCKDIESEL]

http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=56434


Columbia (WLTX) - USC defensive end Jordin Lindsey is recovering in the hospital after he was stabbed in the neck during an altercation in Columbia.

It happened around 4 a.m. Saturday moring on Greene Street.

According to Lindsey's father, Jordin and his brother, Dustin, were walking down Greene Street when two men approached them. The group and the Lindseys got into a brief verbal fight.

The Lindseys were walking away when one of the men came from across the street and tried to swing a broken bottle at them. Lindsey's father says his son swatted away the man's arm, but in the process, received a cut on his face and was stabbed in the jugular.

Jordin is expected to recover, and is supposed to be released from the hospital Sunday.

Columbia police say they have not yet arrested the suspects. Anyone with information should call Crimestoppers at 1-888-559-TIPS.

Jordin Lindsey did not play for the Gamecocks in 2007 for academic reasons. He has a year of eligibility left and is expected to return to the team next season.

[Crazy_Gamecock]

This is bad news for him, but why the hell were they out at 4am?

[FeartheSpur]

oh damn....i hope he recovers 100% ..

[jaytda4th]

wow that is terrible.. the lindsey's have had quite the rough time at USC

[The Yancey]

Nothing good happens at 4:00 am unless you just got up to go to work delivering milk.

[FeartheSpur]

it is saturday night...

[CaptainCrunch]

no way, are you serious? i hope he is okay

[ShutTheSuccop]

man that is awful...I hope that he is ok, and I also hope that the library closes at 4 am and that is why he was out that late...don't give me this BS that they are college students blah blah blah...they need to get their shizzy together and get back on the field or they should be releasee from their scholly's...come to think of it, are they still on scholarship?

Bottom line is that I hope that he is ok....the gamecocks come second in instances like this...

[Scott88]

The Lindsey Brothers just can't seem to avoid problems. Hopefully he recovers. Getting into a drunken argument like that at 4 am is asking for trouble.

[TheGuitarCock]

Smooth. I feel for the guy but when you are out walking at 4am. . .

[jaytda4th]

man that is awful...I hope that he is ok, and I also hope that the library closes at 4 am and that is why he was out that late...don't give me this BS that they are college students blah blah blah...they need to get their shizzy together and get back on the field or they should be releasee from their scholly's...come to think of it, are they still on scholarship?

Bottom line is that I hope that he is ok....the gamecocks come second in instances like this...

it's not like we have anymore football to play.. i mean i go out really late every now and then. I don't consider myself a bad person or anything just livin' the dream.

[ShutTheSuccop]

it's not like we have anymore football to play.. i mean i go out really late every now and then. I don't consider myself a bad person or anything just livin' the dream.

No, I hear you man...I was no different in college, I promise...all I am saying is that at some point with a scholly comes some form of responsibility. I did not mean to come across as being on a soapbox...I am all for having fun, but as some point work should have some priority. Now, there is no reason at all that someone should have stabbed him with a bottle as that is BS...

[usc89]

The problem that area has is that it is surrounded by a poverty-stricken neighborhood and every "drifter" in town knows that Carolina students like to go down there, often on foot. I do hope the kid will be all right and that he and other students will KNOW from now on to travel in groups of 2-3 at a time to ward off things like this.

[usc89]

Or you're a newspaper delivery person out throwing papers! LOL!

[usc89]

I have no problem with the kid being at out after-hours. Hell, I spent quite a few evenings out in Five Points when I was a student at Carolina; however, I KNEW NOT to go alone or without something that had the ability to produce "shock and awe" if attacked.

In all seriousness, Five Points has ALWAYS had a dangerous element to it; that's why we either drove down there or walked in groups. You just don't want to invite disaster.

I do hope the kid is okay, though. The world shouldn't be like this, but it is what it is. A cab fare of $15 or so to get safely back and forth would have been worth it to avoid getting "jumped."

[Rice Rice Baby]

Dont start with the shouldnt be out late BS again, during the year when they have practice every morning thats different. But I know alot of students who are done with this semester competely, finals and all! If thats the case, nothin wrong having a good time down in 5 pts on a saturday night!

[usc90grad]

Our kids are jinxed. Nothing surprises me anymore.

[carolinafan53186]

come on guys they are being college kids minus the stabbing part, but it's not like they've got practice in the morning or anything like that

[Crazy_Gamecock]

come on guys they are being college kids minus the stabbing part, but it's not like they've got practice in the morning or anything like that

agreed. But still, 4am? really? When I was younger if we stayed up that late we knew well enough to stay in the house or apt. walking at 4 am is just asking for it.

[ihateclemson]

Well if you look at the bright side at least they were walking home from 5 points instead of risking getting a DUI.

[ShutTheSuccop]

Well if you look at the bright side at least they were walking home from 5 points instead of risking getting a DUI.


ROFL...that is true and funny as hell...pts

[USCFAN34]

is this true!!!! did he get stabbed! and if so, how bad was it.

[COCKDIESEL]

is this true!!!! did he get stabbed! and if so, how bad was it.
read the first post.

[MEGA]

read the first post.

Thats funny :rotfl:

[colt19114me]

Dont start with the shouldnt be out late BS again, during the year when they have practice every morning thats different. But I know alot of students who are done with this semester competely, finals and all! If thats the case, nothin wrong having a good time down in 5 pts on a saturday night!

Nothing wrong with having a good time, no... But jeezuz.. running your yapper at 4:00 AM and then getting in an altercation that results in a stabbing is NOT "normal"... I've seen dawn many times as a youngster...but NOT once did I get in a fist fight or stabbed... Why in hell is it that football players, particularly at USC, just HAVE to find ways to get jammed up? Let me guess...they are "celebrities" and other people just inflict it on them, right????

(shaking head)... I think that SOS still has some "weeding out" to do.

[scfan2001]

I've slept in the bed of my truck many times down there and never had something like that happen. I wasn't even drinking.

[CockRoche]

They say lightning doesn't strike the same place twice. Unless, of course, you are a lightning rod.

[TheGuitarCock]

is he ok?

[MEGA]

is he ok?

Read the first post ! :thumbsup:

[TheGuitarCock]

Read the first post ! :thumbsup:


:rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol:

[2000grad]

They say lightning doesn't strike the same place twice. Unless, of course, you are a lightning rod.

Reminds me of Powder

[TStone]

So I have two completely opposite feelings about this:

First, I really hope he's okay and they catch the A-hole who did this. I don't care what happened to start it. Unless you're defending yourself you don't cut people in the throat. That's attempted murder.

Second, what's wrong with these two guys? Dustin and Jordin need to stay away from five points... period. I would have thought Dustin getting arrested after a fight would have been a wakeup call. Now I know there's nothing in the report to suggest that he is anything other than an innocent victim. I sincerely hope that is the case. Circumstantially though he and his brother look really bad by getting in serious fights, missing class, hiding from the team, etc. If they don't wake up and figure out how to avoid the negative attention, personally, I don't want them back.

[Gearhead]

hell, I'm just glad there were no guns......party on boys!!!

[hardcock2]

This is bad news for him, but why the hell were they out at 4am?
exactly.:confused:


If they don't wake up and figure out how to avoid the negative attention, personally, I don't want them back.

amen.

[akn4bkn]

that's why i don't go out drinking

[kosimpsononthestop]

i wonder how dustin didnt get hurt. he has a huge brace on his leg. there is no way he could have avoided it. he can barely walk.

[Will4144]

I thought Spurrier gave the players a curfew after what's happened with Stephen Garcia, Quintin Richardson, Justin Sorensen, and Blake Mitchell over the past year.

[Palmetto_Son]

5 points doesnt close until 4 on Fridays, thats why he was still out. Right in the jugular?

[horseshoefootball]

Dear lord, they are college kids. Maybe some of you forgot what it was like in college, but people stay up till 4 am all the time, and on weekends, sometimes they are out till 4 in the morning.

Why is it that no one here seems to give an athlete the benefit of the doubt? Being out around 4 am is normal, getting into a fight and getting stabbed...not so much. But who knows whose fault it is?

Some of you immediately assume the Lindseys are at fault. How many of you know that there have been a rash of robberies on Greene Street in the past couple months. I even got an e-mail from the university about it.

So what if they were being mugged? You never know in these types of situations.

Yes, it's the Lindseys. And yes, they have gotten in trouble in the past. But why is it hard to wait until you have all the facts to judge, or better yet, don't even judge at all?

And, afaik, their scholarships require that they meet all the requirements of being on the football team and maintain a minimum GPA. Football, unfortunately, is over, and neither of them played this year. So I doubt them being out late violated any team rules. And as far as grades go, like someone else said, they could very well be done with exams. Or they could, like me, have exams that are much later in the exam period.

But I suppose it is much easier to assume the worst.

I'm not saying they are innocent. I have no idea. But some of you should refrain from posting your negativity on these topics before you know all the facts.

[garnet812]

Downtown Columbia at 4 AM? Yep, not suprised, and neither should the Lindseys.

[Singaporecock]

Where did it say they were drunk??? A lot of you are assuming they were...I mean I lived down in 5points and came home that late but was never drunk...so give them the benefit of the doubt...unless...you are all writers of the state...and anyone affiliated with the Gamecocks is guilty until proven innocent!!!

[EPHRAIM]

is columbia turning into thugville or what?

[brat]

At 4 AM, everywhere is thugville. College kids will be kids (I was one, once, decades ago and was known to stay out late, too), but the world is much different and greater care and awareness must be taken for safety, especially in the wee small hours of the morning.

Lots of bad people are out at that time, looking for potential victims for almost any type crime you can imagine...robbery, burglary, car break ins, vandalism, rape, assaults, etc., or just plain meanness to easily escalate into just such a situation as described. Why? Fewer witnesses are likely to be around and the victim is often a little more vulnerable than normal.

I know, I use to frequently work those hours for many years and responded to thousands and thousands of those type scenes.

[usc90grad]

Dear lord, they are college kids. Maybe some of you forgot what it was like in college, but people stay up till 4 am all the time, and on weekends, sometimes they are out till 4 in the morning.

I was a college kid who stayed out to 4 am..sometimes later. But I never got stabbed. The "he's a college kid" excuse doesn't wash with me.

[Cruzer]

I wouldn't be suprised if it wasn't football related. The other guys probably knew who they were, started talking shit about the season & then it was on. Still a bad situation, but it happens at every college. We just hear about it more because it's our school.

[Cheezy]

Some of you people make me sick. The hour of the day determines if a crime is the victims fault rather than the assailant? It's not like they were out for no reason in a crack den. They were in a late night entertainment district, less than a mile from campus, that caters to young adults their age.


God forbid anything happen to me after work. I work the night shift on campus. When I get off work after midnight, I pray I'm not assaulted on the way to my car. If so, most of you will say it's my fault, because I'm out post-midnight, as a college aged person.

[brat]

Pretty simple really. You increase your chances for something bad happening to you by being out at such hours, whether you initiate it or not.

Many of the worst crimes happen late at night, more so than any other narrow time frame.

Never said they deserved what happened or that they initiated it, just that it is not a good idea to be walking around in a somewhat high crime area at that time of morning, no matter who they were or no matter what they did or did not do. They put themselves in a bad place, at a bad time, hence a greater chance something bad might occur.

Just a warning to be careful and use some common sense. No more, no less.

[colt19114me]

If they don't wake up and figure out how to avoid the negative attention, personally, I don't want them back.


Ditto:bow: :bow:

[Cheezy]

Pretty simple really. You increase your chances for something bad happening to you by being out at such hours, whether you initiate it or not.

Many of the worst crimes happen late at night, more so than any other narrow time frame.

Never said they deserved what happened or that they initiated it, just that it is not a good idea to be walking around in a somewhat high crime area at that time of morning, no matter who they were or no matter what they did or did not do. They put themselves in a bad place, at a bad time, hence a greater chance something bad might occur.

Just a warning to be careful and use some common sense. No more, no less.

5 points is a renovated, highly light, high populated entertainment district. The USC Campus is TWO blocks away. What if you live in Capstone, walking 150ft to your house after going out dancing/drinking is high risk? Are you saying Campus is not safe?

Perhaps if they had some drinks they should get in their car and drive home, driving drunk being much safer at 4am than walking...

[CockyBlock]

So Jordin got stabbed in the chin, and dustin drove him to blake and cody wells house. Then they called the ambulance? either way the guy is still a gamecock! be supportive! http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7470738

[citblldog24]

The 1 AM curfew that The Citadel (the last time I checked, Citadel cadets were still "college kids") uses to keep us out of shit like this works here, why not employ it on the football team in Columbia? The fact that it's "a saturday night" and "kids will be kids" isnt a very valid excuse anymore when this happens and somebody is SERIOIUSLY hurt or killed

[MEGA]

With the world the way it is today, its going to get to a point to where EVERYBODY should have a curfew ! Last night my me , my mother and my grandchild were riding down the street where my father lived before he died in 2004, I wanted to see if the people were keeping the house up as well as he did, all of the sudden out of nowhere , her comes this car wide open down the street he goes from left to right and takes down a mailbox , he keeps going and then he tries to turn left going about 80 mph in doing so , needless to say he lost control of the car , hit one car and knocked it into another, the guys in the car got out and started running, some other men heard what was going on and they came out and ran the idiots down, we were just kinda stuck there in the middle of that mess, and its not a bad neighborhood, so that goes to show, I guess it doesn't matter where you go OR when you go , there seems to be IDIOTS everywhere !

[brat]

I haven't been to 5 Points in ages, especially at night, so I am pretty unaware of the geography of things and how things have changed. There are exceptions to everything, of course, but to use the weak argument that maybe it was wiser they drove instead of walked (while not meant seriously) sounds pretty defensive.In an ideal world, everyone should be able to come and go anywhere, do anything (legal) and never have fear for their safety or property. Trouble is, this is far from an ideal world. As I said, all places are more unsafe at 4 AM, even USC.

Just saying making yourself especially vulnerable at that time of day, anywhere in public, increases the chances of something bad happening, be it at a convenience store, going to an ATM or to eat at a local Waffle House, for that matter.

Also, not saying the twins had been drinking, but countless experience tells me that many people have been at that time (and here I am just speaking about the criminal element) and that also increases the chances of people having short tempers, becoming more irrational and that makes them do things they ought not to do, and so forth.

I think most people would be shocked to learn how many people with long criminal histories are out at night, some quite violent and many of them are out for no good. It is often their way of life, sadly.

People who work at such hours, that is part of their job and they have to decide if that small increased risk of working when lots more bad people are out is worth it to them. So, you walking to your car at such hours, does increase your chances of being a victim, of some sort. Probably nothing will ever happen, but it is still greater than if you worked during the day.

Being a cop for 25 years, this sounds funny, but they couldn't pay me enough to be a clerk in a convenience store or a cab driver. I got small injuries and cuts and scrapes and scars from dozens of fights over the years and had a few narrow escapes in other 'fun' situations, but my experience helped me get out in one piece. At least, more times than not, I had a good idea of the situations I was getting myself into. Many other people do not have that luxury and never think of themselves being in a potential bad situation until it is too late.

[Scott88]

There are a lot of posters treating the Lindseys like innocent victims. Technically, they may have been, but their past means they need to be held to a higher standard. They invite trouble, and they cause a ton of distractions. Frankly, I'd rather just move on without them. There's a reason we don't hear about players like Lanard Stafford, Kenny McKinley, Jamon Meredith, Captain Munnerlyn, Marvin Sapp, etc. getting into situations like this. If the Lindseys used their brains (something which their grades would suggest they're probably lacking), they could avoid these things. Spurrier needs to put them both on notice. One more incident of any kind while they're at USC, and they're gone for good.

[evilpoptart]

It doesnt take a criminal mastermind to understand that drunk college kids would be easy targets to rob. I hope Jordin is ok and these criminals are brought to justice. However he needs to be smarter and either have someone as a D-D to go to 5 points or travel with a bigger possee.

[CCC]

Regardless of whether or not he should have been out, I'm just glad to hear he's okay. Him being okay is more important than debating about "should he have been out that late".

[willy]

wow that is terrible.. the lindsey's have had quite the rough time at USC



That's what happens when you are crawling the streets at 4:00 am in the morning.

[willy]

wow that is terrible.. the lindsey's have had quite the rough time at USC


That's what happens when you are roaming the streets at 4:00 am.

[JRob]

wow that is terrible.. the lindsey's have had quite the rough time at USC And quite a bit of it has been self-inflicted. Not saying he "asked for it" or he deserved it, but when you keep doing the same kind of things and expecting a different result, well that falls under the definition of insanity.

[willy]

And quite a bit of it has been self-inflicted. Not saying he "asked for it" or he deserved it, but when you keep doing the same kind of things and expecting a different result, well that falls under the definition of insanity.


I am with you JRob.

[Snake]

My Grandmother always told me......."there's nothing but the devil out after midnight"

Glad to hear he is ok though

[hellraiser24]

man that is awful...I hope that he is ok, and I also hope that the library closes at 4 am and that is why he was out that late...don't give me this BS that they are college students blah blah blah...they need to get their shizzy together and get back on the field or they should be releasee from their scholly's...come to think of it, are they still on scholarship?

Bottom line is that I hope that he is ok....the gamecocks come second in instances like this...

football season is over with, they're in college, and they're of age. so what is wrong with going out on saturday night? i bet you went out when you were in college, so don't call it bs for saying the fact that they are college students. just because they are on the football team does not mean they can't go out in the off season

[deenerbug]

I stayed out until 4:00a.m. when I was college aged on Friday nights -- that's when the bars closed -- and I was out having fun with my friends when I could actually stay awake that long. :rotfl:

It was kind of odd reading about it in the paper when it said that they headed to Blake Mitchell's house..... I think I would have headed to the Baptist hospital right up the road if I was losing a lot of blood, but that's just me. :)

I don't hang out in Five Points at night, but it apparently is a happening place. :-o

Mega, you're so right with your post. I was at the cemetary recently visiting the graves of my mom, dad and brother. I looked up because someone was running across the graveyard. It was this guy hauling bootie carrying a gun. He appeared to think someone was after him at the rate he was moving and I'm glad he just kept on running....... This was in the middle of the day.

[jstrom]

agreed. But still, 4am? really? When I was younger if we stayed up that late we knew well enough to stay in the house or apt. walking at 4 am is just asking for it.

You actually think they went out/left their house or something around 3am or what? Suppose they left their apt. around 7pm/8pm, went to a restaurant and stayed until 9 or 10, then out in 5pts around 11 or 12. It's not at all unreasonable to think they hung out and chased girls until closing time...arount 2 or 2:30 (not sure if Group Therapy is still doing the all night thing anymore). If they met some girls and hung out talking to them until really late...around 3 or 3:30 before finally giving up and deciding to walk home (anyone else glad that at least they weren't driving after drinking?). From the article, they guy who cut him came across the street to where the brothers were. A couple of guys on here make it out that the brothers were out looking from trouble...as their reputation speaks to. I've walked home from 5 pts around that time many, many times. $15 for cab fare? I was the one who used to stand outside a club...as long as the front door was shut...checking IDs and charging $2 for cover until I finally had enough money to go in and buy a couple of drinks myself. To all I did that to, I my apologies.

[kosimpsononthestop]

bars didnt close at 2. that was friday night/saturday morning. some of them are open all night.

[hayesnumber76]

so what is the school going to do to protect the student athletes from scum such as mr. Mc Imma-take-a-broken-bottle-and-stab-you-in-the-neck? Cause I know there isnt going to be a way on earth to stop kids from being kids... but what measures will the coaches, or the school take to protect there investments? any ideas?

[WhyNotUs?]

if you are actually dumb enough to be out there at 4am walking around with those bums then you deserve what you get. those kids just love trouble

I dont think anyone deserves to be stabbed in the jugular....

[Gamecock History]

(anyone else glad that at least they weren't driving after drinking?).

They were walking to their truck, and they did drive. But nice try to try and make them look good.

This is from the article in The State:

Billy Lindsey said Jordin and his twin brother, Dustin, a Gamecocks linebacker, were walking to their truck when the two men started yelling at them from across Greene Street.

After realizing his brother had been stabbed, Dustin Lindsey drove him to the home of USC quarterback Blake Mitchell and linebacker Cody Wells, where an ambulance was called, according to Billy Lindsey.

[WhyNotUs?]

it's odd to me that some of yawl are acting as if Jordin is the bad guy in all of this.. i mean Jordin didn't stab anyone in the throat, he got stabbed...

[Gamecock History]

it's odd to me that some of yawl are acting as if Jordin is the bad guy in all of this.. i mean Jordin didn't stab anyone in the throat, he got stabbed...

Does it not strike you as odd that the same group of guys always seem to find trouble? Sure there are incidents of different players getting into bad situations, but it only happens once during 4 or 5 years with most of the players. But for some reason Blake and the Lindsey twins always seem to be getting into some kind of trouble or bad situation. Is it really just a coincedence? The three of them are best friends, and my mom always told me growing up, "You are only as good as the people you surround yourself with".

[WhyNotUs?]

Does it not strike you as odd that the same group of guys always seem to find trouble? Sure there are incidents of different players getting into bad situations, but it only happens once during 4 or 5 years with most of the players. But for some reason Blake and the Lindsey twins always seem to be getting into some kind of trouble or bad situation. Is it really just a coincedence? The three of them are best friends, and my mom always told me growing up, "You are only as good as the people you surround yourself with".

One of our players got stabbed in the throat (he could have died) we should be praying for him, not throwing him under a bus..

[hellraiser24]

One of our players got stabbed in the throat (he could have died) we should be praying for him, not throwing him under a bus..

amen

[kre25]

From a Clemson fan.

I pray that Jordin Lindsey will have a full recovery!

I am glad his brother was there to get him out of there, and get him the medical attention he needed.

I hope they find those that are responsible!

[bhusc2002]

From a Clemson fan.

I pray that Jordin Lindsey will have a full recovery!

I am glad his brother was there to get him out of there, and get him the medical attention he needed.

I hope they find those that are responsible!
one of the best posts in this thread and it's from a clemson fan. yall should be ashamed. (good post kre25)

[cack]

This is bad news for him, but why the hell were they out at 4am?

... because he's a college student ... i'm 23 and i was out last night at 4

[TStone]

... because he's a college student ... i'm 23 and i was out last night at 4

Kudos on not getting stabbed in the neck!
:clap:

[usc90grad]

Kudos on not getting stabbed in the neck!
:clap:

Maybe Cack was doing the stabbing!

J/K

[TalkingHead]

As long as they did nothing wrong, what difference does it make what time of day it was?

I've gotten into trouble during the middle of the day before. I've also stayed out until the next day and not been in any trouble.

[willy]

so what is the school going to do to protect the student athletes from scum such as mr. Mc Imma-take-a-broken-bottle-and-stab-you-in-the-neck? Cause I know there isnt going to be a way on earth to stop kids from being kids... but what measures will the coaches, or the school take to protect there investments? any ideas?



Absolutely nothing.

[BRADinsanecockriot]

(Just saying if they were drinking)

At least dustin didn't try to drive recklessly to the hospital himself. He drove his brother to a nearby safe zone to be picked up by professionals. And his dad quoted the were provoked by two guys yelling at them from across the street. Now think about it.. You are in your early 20's probly had a few to drink can benchpress every piece of furniture in your house and you are walking with your brother (family, not just another teammate) when someone starts yelling whatever at you from across the street. I'm sure your reply isn't gonna be "How was your thanksgiving?" Anyone seen what happens to clark kent when he comes in contact with red kryptonite? Well, maybe that's a little over-exaguration but you get my drift right? So I dont know all the facts but I'm sure they were not looking for trouble or being vandals and stealing computer equipment like some recruits we knew after the final lou holtz game. They were simply walking back to their vehicle to drive 2 blocks home and probly never shift the truck past 3rd gear.

Besides, I think Brad Scott was behind the whole thing. :lol:

[Lalli25]

... because he's a college student ... i'm 23 and i was out last night at 4

I'm also 23 and at USC and agree that it isn't a big deal to be out that late. One of my good friends lives 2 blocks from 5 pts on Greene St across from the park, which we all know has many sketchy people in it and we haven't ever had a problem walking at 4am-5am.

Stop jumping on the guys for trying to enjoy college like all you did. The dude attacked them from across the street while they had their backs turned how did they screw up in that. I'm not saying they were completely innocent, but I'm sure they didn't do anything that deserved that response.

Going into 5 pts staying out til 4am is a USC student staple, basically a tradition. If you haven't done that then you have not fully enjoyed USC in my opinion.

[cock13]

Some of you people make me sick. The hour of the day determines if a crime is the victims fault rather than the assailant? It's not like they were out for no reason in a crack den. They were in a late night entertainment district, less than a mile from campus, that caters to young adults their age.


God forbid anything happen to me after work. I work the night shift on campus. When I get off work after midnight, I pray I'm not assaulted on the way to my car. If so, most of you will say it's my fault, because I'm out post-midnight, as a college aged person.


THANK YOU! Who cares what time it was? Hopefully he recovers, and hopefully you never get stabbed Cheezy:clap::clap::clap:

[uscnoklahoma]

You youngsters will learn nothing good ever happens after midnight.

[BRADinsanecockriot]

You youngsters will learn nothing good ever happens after midnight.

Aww come on guy.. I was born in 1982 so i guess i fall in the middle category of your comment. But i'm sure from viewing your profile status that even back in the 60's that you knew the freaks come out at night. I'm sure those kind of bars stay open WELL past happy hour?? Baw chicka wawh wah

:wink:

Also, I have not seen this posted yet but It is a front page link on espn.com

Lindsey's father, Billy Lindsey, said his son needed surgery but was to be released from the hospital Sunday, according to a report posted online by The (Columbia) State newspaper.

The elder Lindsey said Jordin Lindsey and his twin, Dustin, also a Gamecocks player, were walking early Saturday morning in Five Points, a neighborhood known for its college bar scene and restaurants.

Two men yelled at the brothers from across a street, but the twins didn't think much about it -- until they heard footsteps and Jordin Lindsey was stabbed, Billy Lindsey said.

[CaptainCrunch]

here is an espn article about it
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3147934
Gamecocks' Lindsey has neck slashed during weekend altercation

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina football player Jordin Lindsey had his neck slashed during a weekend altercation near the school campus, police said.
Lindsey, a defensive end for the Gamecocks who could not play this season because of low grades, was cut early Saturday morning by a man wielding a sharp object, possibly a broken bottle, a police report said. Lindsey was fighting with one of two attackers when his neck was cut, the report said.
Lindsey's father, Billy Lindsey, said his son needed surgery but was to be released from the hospital Sunday, according to a report posted online by The (Columbia) State newspaper.
The elder Lindsey said Jordin Lindsey and his twin, Dustin, also a Gamecocks player, were walking early Saturday morning in Five Points, a neighborhood known for its college bar scene and restaurants.
Two men yelled at the brothers from across a street, but the twins didn't think much about it -- until they heard footsteps and Jordin Lindsey was stabbed, Billy Lindsey said.
A phone listing for Billy Lindsey in Mobile, Ala., rang unanswered Sunday, as did an after-hours phone for the Gamecocks' athletic department.
Columbia police spokesman Brick Lewis said authorities were searching for the suspects. "Obviously we're looking for anybody's help in this -- anybody who might have witnessed it," he said.
Jordin Lindsey redshirted this past season and retains one year of eligibility. The 6-foot-3, 256-pound senior had started 15 of 25 games the previous two years. He was the starter for South Carolina's final five games in 2006 and recovered a fumble and intercepted a pass in the Liberty Bowl against Houston.

[Cockholio]

Back in my day (mid 80s) I didn't even start to get ready to go out until 10pm or so. My friends would come by for a little happy hour and we rarely ever left my place to actually go out before 11pm. If you went out any earlier, wherever you went you'd be standing around by yourself. Most places didn't start hopping until after midnight, and I'm sure that's still the case today.

I can see where people are coming from saying they shouldn't be out so late, but these guys' past would tell you that they hang with the party crowd and indulge in the party lifestyle. I think that's what most people that have a problem, have a problem with. Right or wrong, being out partying at that time of night certainly does increase one's chance of being in the newspaper the next day.

[uscnoklahoma]

here is an espn article about it
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3147934
Gamecocks' Lindsey has neck slashed during weekend altercation

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina football player Jordin Lindsey had his neck slashed during a weekend altercation near the school campus, police said.
Lindsey, a defensive end for the Gamecocks who could not play this season because of low grades, was cut early Saturday morning by a man wielding a sharp object, possibly a broken bottle, a police report said. Lindsey was fighting with one of two attackers when his neck was cut, the report said.
Lindsey's father, Billy Lindsey, said his son needed surgery but was to be released from the hospital Sunday, according to a report posted online by The (Columbia) State newspaper.
The elder Lindsey said Jordin Lindsey and his twin, Dustin, also a Gamecocks player, were walking early Saturday morning in Five Points, a neighborhood known for its college bar scene and restaurants.
Two men yelled at the brothers from across a street, but the twins didn't think much about it -- until they heard footsteps and Jordin Lindsey was stabbed, Billy Lindsey said.
A phone listing for Billy Lindsey in Mobile, Ala., rang unanswered Sunday, as did an after-hours phone for the Gamecocks' athletic department.
Columbia police spokesman Brick Lewis said authorities were searching for the suspects. "Obviously we're looking for anybody's help in this -- anybody who might have witnessed it," he said.
Jordin Lindsey redshirted this past season and retains one year of eligibility. The 6-foot-3, 256-pound senior had started 15 of 25 games the previous two years. He was the starter for South Carolina's final five games in 2006 and recovered a fumble and intercepted a pass in the Liberty Bowl against Houston.

Boy talk about a positive spin on it...note sarcasm. They sure took an objective view...note sarcasm.

[lawdog100]

This is bad news for him, but why the hell were they out at 4am?

Why shouldn't they be? I certainly was out that late during the offseason when I was in college. Don't blame them.

man that is awful...I hope that he is ok, and I also hope that the library closes at 4 am and that is why he was out that late...don't give me this BS that they are college students blah blah blah...they need to get their shizzy together and get back on the field or they should be releasee from their scholly's...

Man, give me a break. That is ridiculous.

(I assume you also would blame the girl that gets sexually assaulted b/c she was wearing a short skirt?)

[FratSmack]

what, you guys never were walking around at 4am in five points? come on....

[ShutTheSuccop]

Why shouldn't they be? I certainly was out that late during the offseason when I was in college. Don't blame them.



Man, give me a break. That is ridiculous.

(I assume you also would blame the girl that gets sexually assaulted b/c she was wearing a short skirt?)

No I would not blame the girl, all I am saying is that this shit seems to follow these guys around and I would guess that based on your post that you feel that they did nothing to bring this upon themselves...give me a break. Guess I am not as naive/trusting as you, I don't buy it. I don't know many people who would stab someone for no reason...I guess those thugs were just waiting around that on the off chance they could find someone to stab. But I guess to look at your analogy and make it somewhat analagous to this situation, I would probably think that a girl who continually gets into trouble/harassed but continues to wear short skirts would be dumb IMO...

[uscnoklahoma]

There's a saying "Trouble finds trouble"....ever wonder why some people get in trouble all the time? I was no saint growing up...I was trouble that found trouble...amazing what marriage and having kids at 22 will do. You grow up fast and learn that your elders knew exactly what the hell they were talking about.

I feel sorry for the guy but sooner or later he will have to learn the hard way like I did...hopefully it doesn't get him killed first. It almost did me a couple of times. I truly hope he recovers physically and leaves this stuff behind him...if he doesn't leave it behind him then I don't feel sorry for the kid. He has been given a silver spoon and doesn't realize it. One day he will have big regrets. I know.

[usc90grad]

Anyone else want to bet the media plays this story up big time? Whether the Lindsey brothers were in the wrong or not, its still more bad publicity for our school and football program and therefore can affect recruiting.


Edit: I was right....ESPN has it on their front page.

[gAmkok]

You youngsters will learn nothing good ever happens after midnight.

I disagree somewhat. I'm nearly 40 now and I remember in my youth plenty of good happened after midnight - nearly on a nightly basis.

[uscnoklahoma]

I disagree somewhat. I'm nearly 40 now and I remember in my youth plenty of good happened after midnight - nearly on a nightly basis.

But were you with 3 other dudes :-x:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[usc90grad]

I disagree somewhat. I'm nearly 40 now and I remember in my youth plenty of good happened after midnight - nearly on a nightly basis.

That had nothing to do with the time I'm sure...but everything to do wtih the booze and mickey you slipped her!

[MEGA]

That had nothing to do with the time I'm sure...but everything to do wtih the booze and mickey you slipped her!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[MEGA]

If your really stop and think about this , it is really sad, its sad because Jordan was out at 4 a.m. with his BROTHER...not a date !! :-|

[usc90grad]

If your really stop and think about this , it is really sad, its sad because Jordan was out at 4 a.m. with his BROTHER...not a date !! :-|

Mega, what are you insinuating? :lol:

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

[MEGA]

Mega, what are you insinuating? :lol:

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

He should have at least left with a female ............just sayin :thumbsup:

[usc90grad]

He should have at least left with a female ............just sayin :thumbsup:

Hmm, you planning a trip to 5 Points I take it?

:twisted:

[gAmkok]

That had nothing to do with the time I'm sure...but everything to do wtih the booze and mickey you slipped her!

:lol:

good one. But I never seemed to need to do much convincing. Some of us are just lucky I guess. I'll tell you all about it one day... :lol:

[MEGA]

Hmm, you planning a trip to 5 Points I take it?

:twisted:

And if I see you out at 4 a.m. , that means you won't be home til after the first of the year .......you will need that time to recover !! :rotfl:

[Decaturflyer]

I will be glad when the last of Lou's recruits are gone (these must be the last ones, right?). He had a few good ones, but most were more trouble than they were worth. These two are a good example of that.

I was out a lot at 4 am when I was at USC, I was a bartender and didn't get off of work till then. We went out to a lot of late-night bars after work, then went to class. I never was stabbed, never got into a fight, etc....... It's not that hard to have a good time and stay out of trouble. It seems to me that trouble finds those who are looking for it.

[usc90grad]

And if I see you out at 4 a.m. , that means you won't be home til after the first of the year .......you will need that time to recover !! :rotfl:

Must take cold shower.......

[lawdog100]

I don't know many people who would stab someone for no reason...I guess those thugs were just waiting around that on the off chance they could find someone to stab.

Have you been in 5 points? The area around there is not exactly what I would call safe. Years ago, I had a couple of guys follow me one night in 5 points when I was walking back to my car. They did not appear to be what I would call two upstanding citizens. It was pretty darn scary, and I certainly did nothing to provoke them to follow me, other than be on the wrong street at the wrong time. Sometimes thugs are simply looking for trouble, and maybe the Lindsey kid was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[donbgamecock]

You just never know. Maybe this event will make him think about what he is doing and what his priorities are. I don't know whether he instigated this event or was completely innocent, but the one thing I do know is that studying was not one of his top priorities or he could of helped the team out this year.

Go Cocks!

[brady_843]

This is bad news for him, but why the hell were they out at 4am?

It is bad! but they are not in prison, they still have a life but when spring practice starts, u can ask this question.

[CofCCock]

I haven't lived in Columbia since 04, but I used to work on Greene St. at USC, and lived about 10 mins away from campus. There were several people attacked in that area of campus at night in the wee hours of the morning, and right after a moved, a completely upstanding couple I know were held up in down there between 5 points and campus, and the guy was shot. You have to keep in mind how much a problem they have with bums on the USC campus, particularly on that side. Hell, I've had to walk around a dude camped out on the street in 5 points at 11 at night to get into a bar down there, and we were followed back to our car-- on Harden st. several times when we went down there for some fun in the evenings and left late.

I never went out before 11 in college, and rarely came home before 4 or 5 because there was no 2am bar closings anywhere back then. I look back on it now and wonder what in the heck I was thinking walking home at those hours, and am thankful nothing ever happened to me, particularly being a girl.

Lay off the guy. Even if he had a hand in it, there's few people that deserved to get stabbed in the neck. He could have died or been seriously injured. Let's be thankful it he's ok rather than trashing him for being what so many of us have been; a dumb good time havin college kid.

[lawdog100]

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[lawdog100]

I never went out before 11 in college, and rarely came home before 4 or 5 because there was no 2am bar closings anywhere back then. I look back on it now and wonder what in the heck I was thinking walking home at those hours, and am thankful nothing ever happened to me, particularly being a girl.

As a female you walked home alone at those hours from 5 points?? Yikes. I hope you had a guy or guys walking with you, or at least a bunch of other girls. I'm scared for you now just thinking about that.

[colt19114me]

It doesnt take a criminal mastermind to understand that drunk college kids would be easy targets to rob. I hope Jordin is ok and these criminals are brought to justice. However he needs to be smarter and either have someone as a D-D to go to 5 points or travel with a bigger possee.

A mastermind, no.. But to imply in anyway that anyone would see the Lindsey Brothers as "easy marks" is about as ridiculous as it gets... Dollars to donuts someone was running their mouth.. I mean come on..if you're gonna rob someone, you pick, um... let me guess.. TWO GUYS THE SIZE OF BUICKS to rob???? Yeah.. that makes sense.. no problem.. it's clear as a bell now..

[spurmanski]

They arent THAT big but their motors always run and they are the hardest players we have. They have been in some scrapes and that is true but it sounds like more cuz there are 2 of them and the are just alike

[ktguen]

i hope he makes a full recovery!!!

i dont think jordin he is at fault for this as some of you are making him out to be. he is a COLLEGE student. it is the off season. on a weekend night. he is going to be out late. it may be hard for some of you to fathom, but times have changed and a lot of college students stay out that late (if not later) with friends.

[Gaichon]

The times I've been back in Cola since I was at USC, I've tried to avoid 5 points for the most part, because as a huge Gamecock fan, it pained me to see our athletes out acting like pricks and frankly tainted my fanhood come Saturdays a little bit.

That said, I don't know the full story here, but as most of y'all are saying, it seems to follow these guys. Either way, here's to a speedy recovery.

[ColaCock]

hmm....I'm not going to say what I think because half of you seem to think you know what you are talking about and the other half who are basically right in principal have probably never seen the Lindseys out and the swagger they carry. with that said, i can pretty much guarantee one party isn't at total fault in this. if i said what i thought happened or what i have seen happen with my own eyes before, i'd either be looked down upon for defaming these 2 players or banned for bashing. like i said before, lets just say im not holding my breath to see them both on next years roster. though, no one deserves to be stabbed or assaulted like this in anyway...its very unfortunate and could have been much more serious. when you play with fire...

[sc455]

football season is over with, they're in college, and they're of age. so what is wrong with going out on saturday night? i bet you went out when you were in college, so don't call it bs for saying the fact that they are college students. just because they are on the football team does not mean they can't go out in the off season exactly the kind of comment i would expect from someone named "hellraiser"

[ColaCock]

there is nothing wrong with them being out at 4am. that is totally normal. any opinions in disagreement with that are just clueless. leaving the bar on any night (other than sat night which would be 2am) at 4am is standard and the time the bars close. i don't know where it happened on greene street, but to those saying it wasnt smart to be walking...greene street (depending on where at) is either lined with businesses or lighted with houses all the way to campus. facts so far stand that they are 21 years old or older, were drunk, are college students, were out at 4am...none of which is a crime.

[ColaCock]

You youngsters will learn nothing good ever happens after midnight.

Stupid comment.

[ColaCock]

Have you been in 5 points? The area around there is not exactly what I would call safe.

I have to disagree. I've never once felt "unsafe" in 5 Points. There are plenty of police cars everywhere, lots of people around to witness anything, and most places are lit very well. The only places you could call unsafe near there are behind MLK park. I lived behind there one night and walked home on a few occasions...the worst thing was just the creepiness or thought of something happening, but never did I see anyone walking behind me or near me or anything suspicious at all. Years later I moved on Blossom Street 2 blocks from Harden...walked home many nights instead of driving drunk to avoid DUI. Never crossed my mind that it might not be safe. In fact, its even better today with all of the extra lighting and construction they have done all over.

I am not worried about the bums...if you would talk to them and used a little more sense, they are more worried about finding some food or a place to stay or a few dollars for another beer rather than wasting energy to jump you. Hold you up with a gun? If they had the money, they wouldn't buy a gun- they'd buy a crack rock. The people who commit the crimes aren't bums...they are criminals prepared to do what they do.

[ColaCock]

agreed. But still, 4am? really? When I was younger if we stayed up that late we knew well enough to stay in the house or apt. walking at 4 am is just asking for it.

have you ever been a college student? ever been to 5 Points?

some of you people are so damned funny.

[Gamerooster]

I never went out before 11 in college, and rarely came home before 4 or 5 because there was no 2am bar closings anywhere back then. I look back on it now and wonder what in the heck I was thinking walking home at those hours, and am thankful nothing ever happened to me, particularly being a girl.

Lay off the guy. Even if he had a hand in it, there's few people that deserved to get stabbed in the neck. He could have died or been seriously injured. Let's be thankful it he's ok rather than trashing him for being what so many of us have been; a dumb good time havin college kid.
You're right. The only big deal here is that he got seriously hurt. We had football players when I was in school and many spent plenty of time in 5 points. It wasn't a big deal then, why should it be now?

[CofCCock]

LawDog, I did my UG at CofC, so we're talking a more crowded and better lit walk to campus. But still, you're right! I had been drinking and was usually only with one or two other girls. I DEFINITELY would never even think to do it now!

[IHateOrange]

I have to disagree. I've never once felt "unsafe" in 5 Points. There are plenty of police cars everywhere, lots of people around to witness anything, and most places are lit very well. The only places you could call unsafe near there are behind MLK park. I lived behind there one night and walked home on a few occasions...the worst thing was just the creepiness or thought of something happening, but never did I see anyone walking behind me or near me or anything suspicious at all. Years later I moved on Blossom Street 2 blocks from Harden...walked home many nights instead of driving drunk to avoid DUI. Never crossed my mind that it might not be safe. In fact, its even better today with all of the extra lighting and construction they have done all over.

I am not worried about the bums...if you would talk to them and used a little more sense, they are more worried about finding some food or a place to stay or a few dollars for another beer rather than wasting energy to jump you. Hold you up with a gun? If they had the money, they wouldn't buy a gun- they'd buy a crack rock. The people who commit the crimes aren't bums...they are criminals prepared to do what they do.

Yeah back near MLK gets sketchy! I had a friend live back there that had a homeless man walk in his house and ask for food.

[Spurticus]

I will be glad when the last of Lou's recruits are gone (these must be the last ones, right?). He had a few good ones, but most were more trouble than they were worth. These two are a good example of that.

I was out a lot at 4 am when I was at USC, I was a bartender and didn't get off of work till then. We went out to a lot of late-night bars after work, then went to class. I never was stabbed, never got into a fight, etc....... It's not that hard to have a good time and stay out of trouble. It seems to me that trouble finds those who are looking for it.


Shea McKeen . . . . Spurrier Recruit
Dakota Walker . . .. Spurrier Recruit
OJ Murdock . . . . . .Spurrier Recruit
Bobby Wallace . . .. Spurrier Recruit
Taylor Rank . . . . . .Spurrier Recurit
Emanuel Cook . . . . Spurrier Recruit
Kenrick Ellis . . . . . .Spurrier Recruit
Stephen Garcia . . . Spurrier Recruit
Quintin Richardson . Spurrier Recruit

All of these players have been either dismissed from the team at one point, or have been suspended from games because of violation of team rules / policies. . . . . It's not confined to Lou Holtz's players

[Click]

You're right. The only big deal here is that he got seriously hurt. We had football players when I was in school and many spent plenty of time in 5 points. It wasn't a big deal then, why should it be now?

Yea, the football team has always gone out and partied. Being young is no different now than it was 5 years ago, 10 years ago, or 30 years ago. The world has changed, but being young is still the same.

[garnetchicken]

Teen charged in fight with Lindsey

By Joseph Person
The State
Published: December 10, 2007

A Columbia teenager who broke a beer bottle on the chin of USC football player Jordin Lindsey turned himself in to Columbia police today and was charged with assault and battery with intent to kill, according to a source close to the situation.

Clifton Hunter Epps, 18, fought with Lindsey in Five Points early Saturday morning. During the altercation in the 2000 block of Greene Street, Epps picked up a bottle and hit Lindsey in the chin, breaking the bottle and opening a 4-inch gash in Lindsey’s neck.

USC linebacker Dustin Lindsey took his twin brother to the home of Gamecocks quarterback Blake Mitchell, where an ambulance was called. Lindsey was released from Palmetto Health Richland on Sunday morning.

Billy Lindsey, the players’ father, said Jordin Lindsey was OK and would be able to take his final exams this week.

[Gamecock History]

Shea McKeen . . . . Spurrier Recruit
Dakota Walker . . .. Spurrier Recruit
OJ Murdock . . . . . .Spurrier Recruit
Bobby Wallace . . .. Spurrier Recruit
Taylor Rank . . . . . .Spurrier Recurit
Emanuel Cook . . . . Spurrier Recruit
Kenrick Ellis . . . . . .Spurrier Recruit
Stephen Garcia . . . Spurrier Recruit
Quintin Richardson . Spurrier Recruit

All of these players have been either dismissed from the team at one point, or have been suspended from games because of violation of team rules / policies. . . . . It's not confined to Lou Holtz's players

Great post, I get sick and tired of hearing about players under Holtz. Spurrier has had just as many problems if not more in his first 3 years as Holtz did.

[Freehawk]

I wouldn't be suprised if it wasn't football related. The other guys probably knew who they were, started talking shit about the season & then it was on. Still a bad situation, but it happens at every college. We just hear about it more because it's our school.

LOL I think you are onto something there. I think somebody yelled at them and said "Steve Spurrier pees out of bounds and shoots snot rockets on the sideline on national TV!" and the Lindsey's said "Oh yeah, You take that back right now or else!"

See, it was a matter of Honor.
:rotfl:

[Freehawk]

Teen charged in fight with Lindsey

By Joseph Person
The State
Published: December 10, 2007

A Columbia teenager who broke a beer bottle on the chin of USC football player Jordin Lindsey turned himself in to Columbia police today and was charged with assault and battery with intent to kill, according to a source close to the situation.

Clifton Hunter Epps, 18, fought with Lindsey in Five Points early Saturday morning. During the altercation in the 2000 block of Greene Street, Epps picked up a bottle and hit Lindsey in the chin, breaking the bottle and opening a 4-inch gash in Lindsey’s neck.

I wonder about people like this, and the guy who broke a beer bottle on Sorenson. I mean, do they have a death wish? Why pick on such huge people, and how did this guy escape a beating?

[COCKDIESEL]

http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=56471


Columbia (WLTX) - Columbia police have made an arrest in the assault of USC football player Jordin Lindsey.

Officers arrested 18-year-old Clifton Epps after he turned himself in Monday. He's charged with assault and battery with intent to kill.

Officers say he confessed to cutting Lindsey on the neck with a broken bottle around 4 a.m. Saturday morning on Greene Street.

Lindsey was involved in a verbal fight with Epps at the time. His brother Dustin, who also played for the Gamecocks, was with him at the time.

Lindsey's father says Jordin was cut in the jugular, and required minor surgery. He's since been released from the hospital.

Lindsey is a defensive end for USC. He did not play in the 2007 for academic reasons.

[CaptainCrunch]

i'm glad they got him

[UseYourFingers]

This is terrible. I work with the kid who stabbed him and gave a whole different account to what happened. I guess he was probably lying to cover his ass.

[COCKDIESEL]

This is terrible. I work with the kid who stabbed him and gave a whole different account to what happened. I guess he was probably lying to cover his ass.
The Epps Kid?

What did he say happened?

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

Good lets fry this thug.

[Indiana Gamecock]

This is terrible. I work with the kid who stabbed him and gave a whole different account to what happened. I guess he was probably lying to cover his ass.

That is very unfortunate. It's amazing what too much alcohol can lead you to make bad decisions. I am assuming he was drinking, but if I am wrong I apologize.

[Cocklover]

well thank god they got the idiot!!

[UseYourFingers]

The Epps Kid?

What did he say happened?

He said that Jordin and him got into a verbal fight, just like the article says. But he said that Lindsay started beating him pretty badly and he picked up a beer bottle and hit him in self defense. I believed him too, because his face is severly bruised and his hand is broken. I don't know what he was doing at 5 points, the kid is only 18 years old.

[UseYourFingers]

That is very unfortunate. It's amazing what too much alcohol can lead you to make bad decisions. I am assuming he was drinking, but if I am wrong I apologize.

I'm pretty sure he was even though he's underage.

[cockyguitarist]

Good lord that kid is scrawny, or at least looks like he is. Something is fishy, cause no way in hell if you're that small that you even DARE try to pick something with someone the size of one of the Lindsey boys. Maybe he was just incredibly drunk but guess we'll find out.

[usc90grad]

In a just world, Jordin would get to slash this kid's jugular with a broken bottle.

[DarlingtonGamecock]

http://jail.richlandonline.com/Services/ResearchOffenders/OffenderDetails/default.asp?OffenderID=111462&Image=111462_308912.jpg

http://jail.richlandonline.com/OffenderImages/111462_308912.jpg

Don't look to beat up to me. Just a little black eye.

[TheGuitarCock]

Shouldnt 2 freakin SEC Size players be able to atleast take that dude down?

Maybe he wasnt expecting it!?!?!

[DarlingtonGamecock]

Shouldnt 2 freakin SEC Size players be able to atleast take that dude down?

Maybe he wasnt expecting it!?!?!

He is kinda wormy looking. :rotfl:

[TheGuitarCock]

He is kinda wormy looking. :rotfl:


:lol:

[YouCanNeverTell]

He said that Jordin and him got into a verbal fight, just like the article says. But he said that Lindsay started beating him pretty badly and he picked up a beer bottle and hit him in self defense. I believed him too, because his face is severly bruised and his hand is broken. I don't know what he was doing at 5 points, the kid is only 18 years old.
you don't stab a guy in the neck in self-defense. If you are getting an ass whoppin you carry it like a man and get on with your life.

[USCya]

http://jail.richlandonline.com/Services/ResearchOffenders/OffenderDetails/default.asp?OffenderID=111462&Image=111462_308912.jpg

http://jail.richlandonline.com/OffenderImages/111462_308912.jpg

Don't look to beat up to me. Just a little black eye.


Looks like Lindsey made this dudes neck 6 inches longer....:lol:

[cracker2]

The little rascal looks like Peety to me!!!

[Cuck Flemson]

He is kinda wormy looking. :rotfl:

That's exactly what I was thinkin:lol:

[Cuck Flemson]

http://jail.richlandonline.com/Services/ResearchOffenders/OffenderDetails/default.asp?OffenderID=111462&Image=111462_308912.jpg

http://jail.richlandonline.com/OffenderImages/111462_308912.jpg

Don't look to beat up to me. Just a little black eye.

Looks like he's been hitting the weight room. He's buffed:lol:

[Spur]

The truth always lies somewhere in between.

Though I am sure everyone will jump to Lindsey's defense (and I am very glad he is ok), I refuse to jump to any conclusions just yet.

I rarely if ever believe those stories where things "just suddenly happen for no reason" as they usually state or things like that....for either side that is

[Cuck Flemson]

The truth always lies somewhere in between.

Though I am sure everyone will jump to Lindsey's defense (and I am very glad he is ok), I refuse to jump to any conclusions just yet.

I rarely if ever believe those stories where things "just suddenly happen for no reason" as they usually state or things like that....for either side that is

Well spoken Spur. :clap:


The truth will come out.

[ShutTheSuccop]

WTF is someone that scrawny doing picking a fight with a football player...hell that guy should not even pick a fight with the team manager! It will be interesting to see how this shakes out, but both stories seem plausible.

[ShutTheSuccop]

The truth always lies somewhere in between.

Though I am sure everyone will jump to Lindsey's defense (and I am very glad he is ok), I refuse to jump to any conclusions just yet.

I rarely if ever believe those stories where things "just suddenly happen for no reason" as they usually state or things like that....for either side that is


Spur....the most dangerous thing that you can do is "nothing" as it always seems to lead to trouble!:rotfl: :rotfl:

[DarlingtonGamecock]

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[IOPCock]

In a just world, Jordin would get to slash this kid's jugular with a broken bottle.

I a just world a kid that small wouldnt be in a fight with a guy that big.

[IOPCock]

I wonder about people like this, and the guy who broke a beer bottle on Sorenson. I mean, do they have a death wish? Why pick on such huge people, and how did this guy escape a beating?

Do you honestly think he started the fight?

[uscnoklahoma]

I don't buy the Lindsey's story...especially after seeing the picture of this guy. This guy had to be scared for his life to do that...no way he starts something like this. Bash away.

[LegalCock]

Me neither. Lindsey has been in enough trouble for one lifetime. Looks like he picked on the wrong little dude.

[MEGA]

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Don't look to beat up to me. Just a little black eye.

Its hard to believe this guy would START anything , I am a 51 year old woman , I could take this guy slam out with one hit !!

[hayesnumber76]

Absolutely nothing.
heh... figured that...

[colt19114me]

you don't stab a guy in the neck in self-defense. If you are getting an ass whoppin you carry it like a man and get on with your life.

Now that the facts are out... he wasn't "stabbed in the neck"..he got a bottle across the chin....

I ain't buying the players were "innocent victims" crap... And it was ON CAMPUS... I smell a rat... and do NOT want anymore of this shit on our team...

[UseYourFingers]

you don't stab a guy in the neck in self-defense. If you are getting an ass whoppin you carry it like a man and get on with your life.

Dude I'm not defending his actions. I'm just telling you what he told us at work. I'm not the one in jail so you don't have to preach to me.

[IHateOrange]

For those saying a skinny smaller guy would never pick a fight with SEC football players.... I have spent plenty of time in 5 points and watched plenty of smaller guys pick fights with bigger guys, groups of guys, bouncers, and groups of bouncers. People are not always as fortunate in the brain department as others. Alcohol makes some feel like the a giant and when they wake up the next morning bruised and beaten they still have not learned a thing!

[Ga_Gamecock]

you don't stab a guy in the neck in self-defense. If you are getting an ass whoppin you carry it like a man and get on with your life.

whos to say his intentions were to stab him in the jugular anyway? if he hit him with the bottle it could have merely been an attempt to get away or stop the fight and get away ... who knows.

like someone said above, the truth usually lies somewhere in between both sides of the story

[reddot8481]

^^^^

I agree I have seen some idiots grow ten sizes to big for their own good thanks to the firewater. I'm not saying the Lindsey's didn't do anything to accelerate the fight, but I'm guessing they did their own in this. Sounds possible that they were both jawjacking then they got into it and the kid got more than he thought was coming so he did what he thought he had to. Just goes to show you that you never know what can happen if you get into a fight. Their lucky that no one was packing heat.

[canman]

I've slept in the bed of my truck many times down there and never had something like that happen. I wasn't even drinking.

If you were not drinking what on this earth would posess you to sleep in the back of your truck instead of driving home?????

[tanyhillcockfan]

If you were not drinking what on this earth would posess you to sleep in the back of your truck instead of driving home?????


hahahahah
HAHAHAHAHA
:puke:

[tanyhillcockfan]

The problem that area has is that it is surrounded by a poverty-stricken neighborhood and every "drifter" in town knows that Carolina students like to go down there, often on foot. I do hope the kid will be all right and that he and other students will KNOW from now on to travel in groups of 2-3 at a time to ward off things like this.

oh trust me they dont need to travel in group with these kids... and i promise you this,,, the bros started this fight i guarrantee it... i have seen these kids talk shat dt personally and they arent the ones who try and break up anything... they are the kids who, most of the time, start it all!!

:kill:

[tanyhillcockfan]

For those saying a skinny smaller guy would never pick a fight with SEC football players.... I have spent plenty of time in 5 points and watched plenty of smaller guys pick fights with bigger guys, groups of guys, bouncers, and groups of bouncers. People are not always as fortunate in the brain department as others. Alcohol makes some feel like the a giant and when they wake up the next morning bruised and beaten they still have not learned a thing!

in "other" words the twins started this one and something or someone else finished it so they wouldnt get there sht kicked in... i hear yah about skinny folk thinkin they are 288lbs but this is a different case definitely

[ColaCock]

oh trust me they dont need to travel in group with these kids... and i promise you this,,, the bros started this fight i guarrantee it... i have seen these kids talk shat dt personally and they arent the ones who try and break up anything... they are the kids who, most of the time, start it all!!

:kill:
yeah...i have seen them whip some major ass in 5 points. one time i thought one of their victims was dead- he didn't move for almost a minute or so...and it all happened so fast. yet i have to be honest, the lindseys didn't provoke it...this guy walks by and makes a comment so they are like "you wanna do something?" the guy is all pumped up and feeling like superman...one of the lindseys says follow me, then proceeds to give him a whipping like i haven't seen since. all his friends were like "he's had enough, he's had enough!"...and it was true, i bet he regreted starting that fight immediately- except it was too late.

[donbgamecock]

Its hard to believe this guy would START anything , I am a 51 year old woman , I could take this guy slam out with one hit !!

Thats our girl. Lay the Mega Mash on his chops and watch him fall hard. :rotfl:

Go Cocks!

[deenerbug]

I know some people get beer muscles, but I can't imagine that guy would go out of his way to fight the Lindsey twins given their size. The paper also said he had two black eyes and a bruised arm or something. I smell a rat. Plus, the Lindseys apparently have a history of fighting. Why get into physical altercations of any kind unless someone walks up and just out right smacks you? Even then, whatever happened to calling the police?

These verbal altercations that escalate into this type of thing are a major sign of immaturity and thug behavior. I'll be happy to see this type of element depart from our team. I'm sick of reading the stories and hoping for some excuse other than players just being idiots. I hope we're not continuing to recruit future criminals.

For example:

yeah...i have seen them whip some major ass in 5 points. one time i thought one of their victims was dead- he didn't move for almost a minute or so...and it all happened so fast. yet i have to be honest, the lindseys didn't provoke it...this guy walks by and makes a comment so they are like "you wanna do something?" the guy is all pumped up and feeling like superman...one of the lindseys says follow me, then proceeds to give him a whipping like i haven't seen since. all his friends were like "he's had enough, he's had enough!"...and it was true, i bet he regreted starting that fight immediately- except it was too late.

So, did the guy touch him first? What happened to self control and acting like an adult?

[ColaCock]

I know some people get beer muscles, but I can't imagine that guy would go out of his way to fight the Lindsey twins given their size. The paper also said he had two black eyes and a bruised arm or something. I smell a rat. Plus, the Lindseys apparently have a history of fighting. Why get into physical altercations of any kind unless someone walks up and just out right smacks you? Even then, whatever happened to calling the police?

These verbal altercations that escalate into this type of thing are a major sign of immaturity and thug behavior. I'll be happy to see this type of element depart from our team. I'm sick of reading the stories and hoping for some excuse other than players just being idiots. I hope we're not continuing to recruit future criminals.

For example:



So, did the guy touch him first? What happened to self control and acting like an adult?

the thing is that this occurs often and not just at USC. its just a matter of getting caught, or in this case, someone getting seriously injured to where it was brought to attention. from what i gathered from that incident, the lindseys have a strong amount of confidence and when you know you have another twin beside you just as large and fearless- you kind of know you are badass (at least that is my observation). no one touched anyone at first. it was just words back and forth, everyone holding their own person back until one of the lindseys said "to hell with this, walk over here if you are bad." they walk into a more discreet area, knuckle up, and the other guy was down on the ground getting his ass beat within seconds. it wasn't much of a fight...it was very casual, the lindsey twin walked away just like he had walked back there and took a piss or something.

im not sure if the guy who got beat down knew he was a football player or knew he was a lindsey twin. a lot of the athletes do have targets on their backs, unfortunately, and are often called out (blake mitchell's fiasco, i.e.). their decision to fight just isnt as fair because the moment they do, it becomes news...when if it was someone else, it was just another fight that weekend.

that guy does look very small, but it doesnt surprise me. ive seen many mismatched fights before like that...you'd be really surprised at the mouths some of these little punks get on them after theyve had a few drinks. its like they KNOW they are gonna get their tails whipped, but do it anyways. i knew a guy from college that prolly took a beating every other weekend...he was probably 5'7 and 150 pounds...small guy. he would run his mouth recklessly...and end up getting his face smashed in at the end of the night. he often never remembered it happening from being so drunk.

[Gamecock History]

First of all, the kid didn't cut his jugular, that is just something that was said initially and everyone has ran with it. If he had, the amount of time it took to drive him to Blake's, call 911, wait for the ambulance and get to the hospital, he would have died. He did have a 4 inch cut and he did lose a lot of blood, but his jugular was not cut.

The kid hit Lindsey in the chin with a broken beer bottle which in turn cut his neck under his chin. To hit someone in the chin is kind of an unusual spot if standing up fighting. But if the kid was on his back get his face beaten in on the sidewalk and reaches for anything near him on the ground, finds a beer bottle and swings at Lindsey, THEN hitting him in the chin and neck is a very logical place based on the situation.

In the reports it says "when Dustin learned his brother had been stabbed" he took him to the truck and drove him to Blake's house. How did he NOT know his brother had been stabbed. According to their story the twins were walking down the street innocently and this scrawny kid comes out of nowhere with a beer bottle and stabs Jordin. In that event doesn't it seem like it would be quite apparant that your brother got stabbed?
But if Jordin is beating the crap out of this kid and Dustin is bowed up talking trash to someone else or keeping people from breaking things up, then I could see how "Dustin learned his brother had been stabbed".

NOTHING adds up here.

[deenerbug]

I like your happy holiday signature graphic, ColaCock. :)

I know it happens at other schools and in general. I'm just surprised by the number of people who think beating the Hell out someone is the way to go. That kind of behavior should stop at middle school or before, if it occurs at all. It seems our football players should know that they are most definitely in the spotlight and avoid, avoid, avoid. Why do all of them go to Five Points and get into trouble?

[ColaCock]

Why do all of them go to Five Points and get into trouble?

I think its the media that makes it seem this way. They, along with thousands of other college students, go out during the week til the wee hours of the night and party and have a great time with no problems. I've had guys want to fight me or guys I've wanted to rumble with...but never did or I backed away, it wasn't worth it to me...I have a good job and don't want to risk losing it, jail and fines doesn't sound nice. There are very few reasons I would fight...someone assaulting/striking my girl or any girl, or someone initiating the fight where I must defend myself. I'm past all of the fighting crap, I'd rather have a good time. Maybe some of them aren't?

Yet from the media's view...a player could go out every Thurs, Fri, and Sat night of the school year- that is about 32 weeks, or 100 nights of partying (if you go out 3 times per week, which is about minimum for a college student). Countless hours of drinking and partying for all of these students combined...and in 15 minutes of fighting or doing wrong, it is all brought out. I guess its no excuse for that behavior, plenty of people make it through their whole college career without trouble...just sayin.

[IHateOrange]

I think its the media that makes it seem this way. They, along with thousands of other college students, go out during the week til the wee hours of the night and party and have a great time with no problems. I've had guys want to fight me or guys I've wanted to rumble with...but never did or I backed away, it wasn't worth it to me...I have a good job and don't want to risk losing it, jail and fines doesn't sound nice. There are very few reasons I would fight...someone assaulting/striking my girl or any girl, or someone initiating the fight where I must defend myself. I'm past all of the fighting crap, I'd rather have a good time. Maybe some of them aren't?

Yet from the media's view...a player could go out every Thurs, Fri, and Sat night of the school year- that is about 32 weeks, or 100 nights of partying (if you go out 3 times per week, which is about minimum for a college student). Countless hours of drinking and partying for all of these students combined...and in 15 minutes of fighting or doing wrong, it is all brought out. I guess its no excuse for that behavior, plenty of people make it through their whole college career without trouble...just sayin.

I was about to post the same thoughts... I go out all the time to 5 points. In that large a time period around that many drunk people something is bound to happen. Maybe not this serious but stuff happens like this every night.

[roosterrizk1]

The question is - when your already walking a thin line why even go to 5 points..?? I have been there as well on numerous occassions and while it is a fun place to be - its also a place where trouble happens. Yes he is a College Student, but is he here to be committed to the Team? I really cannot wait until some of these guys who put partying first and football second get out. Until then, we will never have the commitment to be a Top Program. When things have gotten rough on the field, these type players have just plain quit. Not saying the Lindseys on the field quit, they are ballers on the field, but the example off the field and their commitment to the Team off the field leaves allot to be desired.

[ColaCock]

The question is - when your already walking a thin line why even go to 5 points..?? I have been there as well on numerous occassions and while it is a fun place to be - its also a place where trouble happens. Yes he is a College Student, but is he here to be committed to the Team? I really cannot wait until some of these guys who put partying first and football second get out. Until then, we will never have the commitment to be a Top Program. When things have gotten rough on the field, these type players have just plain quit. Not saying the Lindseys on the field quit, they are ballers on the field, but the example off the field and their commitment to the Team off the field leaves allot to be desired.

Umm...to have fun? They are football players, yes, but they are also college students as well. They deserve the right to have fun and be in that environment just as anyone else in college. I don't think this is the issue. It could to lots of people.

[roosterrizk1]

I find it a issue when almost every time a player seems to get in trouble it almost always has a relation to 5 pts. You may be right, but it seems to be the common denominator.

[ColaCock]

I find it a issue when almost every time a player seems to get in trouble it almost always has a relation to 5 pts. You may be right, but it seems to be the common denominator.

Maybe because that is where 95% of students go to party? Use some logic.

If I asked you what location students are most likely to fail a test...I'd hope you would say a classroom.

Partying shouldn't involve trouble, but let's be honest...at times, we all know it does and its something that can't be prevented.

[GeathersFan]

Not to burst any bubbles but according to my newspaper the guy ,who is also a student, claims to be defending himself from the brothers; who are twice his size.

[CCC]

I'm just surprised by the number of people who think beating the Hell out someone is the way to go. That kind of behavior should stop at middle school or before, if it occurs at all.

I agree 100%.

I've told my boys that if they are in a fight and I found out that THEY throw the first punch, then they'll get an ass-beating from me. They know NEVER to start a physical altercation. If someone is irritating them with words, just walk away. Be man enough and mature enough and the bigger person and just walk away.

However, I have also told them that if someone HITS them first, then they are allowed to defend themselves and they won't get in trouble by me. I've also told them that if they are defending themselves they better watch what they're doing b/c that doesn't mean get all crazy and half-kill someone beating them up.

The Lindsey twins may be defending themselves or beating someone up to get them to shut-up, but they need to learn some self-control. You just can't go through life beating up everyone that gets on your nerves and is talking trash. It shouldn't ever get to a point that someone has to say to them "He's had enough". It's probably past what he should "have had" at that point.

[uscnoklahoma]

A cancer needs to be removed before it spreads.....these guys are bad news. They sound like they look for trouble...football players get challenged all the time....they either must learn to walk away, which is unlikely, or they must be kicked off the team, the best scenario for all involved.

[Hopefultiger]

Edit: duplicate information. Oops, should have gone back a couple of pages... my bad

[donbgamecock]

I agree 100%.

I've told my boys that if they are in a fight and I found out that THEY throw the first punch, then they'll get an ass-beating from me. They know NEVER to start a physical altercation. If someone is irritating them with words, just walk away. Be man enough and mature enough and the bigger person and just walk away.

However, I have also told them that if someone HITS them first, then they are allowed to defend themselves and they won't get in trouble by me. I've also told them that if they are defending themselves they better watch what they're doing b/c that doesn't mean get all crazy and half-kill someone beating them up.

The Lindsey twins may be defending themselves or beating someone up to get them to shut-up, but they need to learn some self-control. You just can't go through life beating up everyone that gets on your nerves and is talking trash. It shouldn't ever get to a point that someone has to say to them "He's had enough". It's probably past what he should "have had" at that point.

CCC,

I can agree with you somewhat. I do agree you should not (in most cases) throw the first punch. The exception is something you learn when you get older and it would be difficult (and dangerous) to try and get really young people to understand. There are times that it is prudent to attack first. For instance, I was put in a position one time when two guys stopped me to ask me a question. After I answered they got smart and wanted to know where I lived. When I went to walk away, one of them stepped in front of me. I didn't have to think about whether they just wanted more conversation and I didn't wait for one of them to throw the first punch. I head butted one in the nose, and swung at the other guy and then took off running. It may have saved me from a severe beating or from being killed.

Secondly, if someone does force me into a fight, losing is not an option. If I think I am getting (or going to get) the worst of it, I will use whatever means I can to take the guy out. If I need to use a rock or bottle or whatever, I'll level the playing field if possible. Also, I am sure in the hell am not going to step back just because I knocked down someone I am fighting. You don't turn your back on an enemy. You make sure he is incapacitated so there won't be any counter attack.

All this may seem pretty brutal, but I grew up in a pretty tough place and that is just the way it is. Experience can be a good teacher.

Go Cocks!

[roosterrizk1]

Maybe because that is where 95% of students go to party? Use some logic.



My logic says that 95% of the students aren't getting a free education nor are they part of the football team. If I am asking too much for these folks to keep their a$$ out of 5 points and out of trouble then evidently we have a difference of opinion on commitment. You can make ALL THE EXCUSES for them you want but I would bet that if they could stay out of 5 points then they would avoid trouble. The funny thing is their DAD has already told them to stay out of 5 points but yet they didn't listen and look what happens. Evidently its going to take someone getting killed down there for some of our players and or fans to get a clue....I don't donate 10K A YEAR to USC for the players to go get tore up at 5 points and the bad thing is they do it during game week. Believe what you want but making excuses for bad decisions sounds like our Society, " its always somebody elses fault or we always have excuses."

[ColaCock]

^^^Quit giving $$$ then, you are asking for the impossible. Your 10 grand a year doesn't help them pay their tab at Pavlovs.

They are humans, not machines. They can enjoy themselves if they'd like while using good judgement. If my boss told me I couldn't have a drink during the work week, I'd tell him to kiss my ass.

[roosterrizk1]

They can enjoy themselves if they'd like while using good judgement

And that will start when .......????

If my boss told me I could have a drink during the work week, I'd tell him to kiss my ass.

For some reason I just don't think that will work with Spurrier.....Ask D Summers.....

[IHateOrange]

They can enjoy themselves if they'd like while using good judgement

And that will start when .......????

If my boss told me I could have a drink during the work week, I'd tell him to kiss my ass.

For some reason I just don't think that will work with Spurrier.....Ask D Summers.....

He wasn't drinking... Plus they Overhauled the drug policy because of that afterwards.

[roosterrizk1]

I know Summers wasn't drinking, he was hitting the spleaf. I am just saying I doubt if Spurrier puts up with someone telling him to kiss there a$$ if he doesn't like what they do.....And if you expect telling your boss to kiss your a$$ every time he tells you something you don't like, don't expect to go far with your career ...........

[donbgamecock]

Roost,

I think the point is that people can tell you what to do when you are at work or school, but when it is your time, it is none of their business.....most of the time. There are people that have security clearances, work in nuclear power stations and the sort, that are subject to being monitored for what they do even after work. But they are typically monitoring for drug usage.

If you go out and have few glasses of wine or other drinks then it is not their business.

I know I can lose my job for DUI, any felony arrest, or even too much debt but I knew the rules before I started working.

Go Cocks!

[Spur]

If my boss told me I couldn't have a drink during the work week, I'd tell him to kiss my ass.

I've been told that before actually.....well, not for the entire time but for a specific amount of time

I did it and am glad I did because the work was....ridiculous

[Order 66]

I find it hard to feel pity for a guy on academic probation hanging out in 5pts at 4 am before exam week, and I doubt coach sees the situation any differently.

I personally just lost any faith I had in the two. I just hope we don't have other little Lindseys on the football team who want to waste their college football careers in a 5pts bar, but I'm sure my hopes are futile.

[Hollywood0071]

Dear lord, they are college kids. Maybe some of you forgot what it was like in college, but people stay up till 4 am all the time, and on weekends, sometimes they are out till 4 in the morning.

Why is it that no one here seems to give an athlete the benefit of the doubt? But who knows whose fault it is?

Some of you immediately assume the Lindseys are at fault.

So what if they were being mugged? You never know in these types of situations.

Yes, it's the Lindseys. And yes, they have gotten in trouble in the past. But why is it hard to wait until you have all the facts to judge, or better yet, don't even judge at all?

But I suppose it is much easier to assume the worst.

I'm not saying they are innocent. I have no idea. But some of you should refrain from posting your negativity on these topics before you know all the facts.
When a known drug dealer disappears into a dark alley and then minutes later a cop disappears into the same alley and walks out a few minutes later, what are you thinking? Drug dealer wants to come clean or DIRTY COP?

If it isn't obvious, it should be! DIRTY COP! Don't really think we need to assume anything about this situation. I think we all know the answer!
:-x:-x:-x:-x:-x:-x

[JRob]

First of all, the kid didn't cut his jugular, that is just something that was said initially and everyone has ran with it. If he had, the amount of time it took to drive him to Blake's, call 911, wait for the ambulance and get to the hospital, he would have died. He did have a 4 inch cut and he did lose a lot of blood, but his jugular was not cut.

The kid hit Lindsey in the chin with a broken beer bottle which in turn cut his neck under his chin. To hit someone in the chin is kind of an unusual spot if standing up fighting. But if the kid was on his back get his face beaten in on the sidewalk and reaches for anything near him on the ground, finds a beer bottle and swings at Lindsey, THEN hitting him in the chin and neck is a very logical place based on the situation.

In the reports it says "when Dustin learned his brother had been stabbed" he took him to the truck and drove him to Blake's house. How did he NOT know his brother had been stabbed. According to their story the twins were walking down the street innocently and this scrawny kid comes out of nowhere with a beer bottle and stabs Jordin. In that event doesn't it seem like it would be quite apparant that your brother got stabbed?
But if Jordin is beating the crap out of this kid and Dustin is bowed up talking trash to someone else or keeping people from breaking things up, then I could see how "Dustin learned his brother had been stabbed".

NOTHING adds up here.
This is why this story steams me. The Lindsey's story does not jibe with the report. Nor does it mike sense in light of the report. Was Dustin trying to keep people from breaking it up?
Sorry, but my sympathy for these guys is about gone. I'm glad Jordin is going to be alright, but nothing about this makes me proud that they wear garnet and black (when they bother to do the things required to do so).

[ktguen]

for those of you on facebook, there is now a group to try to free hunter.

http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21232741408

if that doesnt work just search for it under groups.

[IHateOrange]

for those of you on facebook, there is now a group to try to free hunter.

http://hs.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21232741408

if that doesnt work just search for it under groups.

the groups name is dont let hunter go to jail... I think they failed....

[jellafever]

OK, get this:

I have a very good friend who is a bartender in 5 points. She has a younger sister, who used to date this Hunter kid. And Hunter tried to claim that my friend, the bartender, gave him the beer bottle. She was worried about it until I told her that there was no way to prove she gave him the beer bottle (even though she didn't) and that even if she had given him the bottle she didn't tell him to stab someone with the broken bottle.

[Lalli25]

I find it hard to feel pity for a guy on academic probation hanging out in 5pts at 4 am before exam week, and I doubt coach sees the situation any differently.

I personally just lost any faith I had in the two. I just hope we don't have other little Lindseys on the football team who want to waste their college football careers in a 5pts bar, but I'm sure my hopes are futile.

I believe he had just finished finals so why wouldn't he feel like he could go out and blow off some steam and celebrate starting break. I might be wrong I'm not sure, but if he was done with finals then get off the kids back.