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usc1
11-25-2007, 01:31 PM
I would love to see us really go after him. He's a good defensive mind and one of the nation's best recruiters.

CoverTwo
11-25-2007, 01:32 PM
We'd be on probation in 2 years.

USCfanlivingnKY
11-25-2007, 01:32 PM
I would love to see us really go after him. He's a good defensive mind and one of the nation's best recruiters.


I have never thought of this scenario before but it makes sense!

Flameout12
11-25-2007, 01:34 PM
We'd be on probation in 2 years.
Seriously? Seems at least he's was clean at Miss.

CockRoche
11-25-2007, 01:35 PM
I thought this was a good idea myself, but I'm with CoverTwo. He'd have us on probation.

willy
11-25-2007, 01:37 PM
I have never thought of this scenario before but it makes sense!


I have heard that rumor.

ShutTheSuccop
11-25-2007, 01:44 PM
Would be a great pickup

Trooperdel
11-25-2007, 02:24 PM
I'll pay for his moving truck.

WeHailTheeCarolina
11-25-2007, 02:26 PM
This would be a great move. It would give our fans a little hope and some excitement as well.

Big Train
11-25-2007, 02:30 PM
I'll drive the truck and pay for the gas!

Gamecock_Aholic
11-25-2007, 02:33 PM
I would love to see us really go after him. He's a good defensive mind and one of the nation's best recruiters.


i thought you were against us now.

KCSuge
11-25-2007, 02:44 PM
I immediately fell in love with this idea. We should definitely try and get him. Sorry but I just don't think Nix is the man for the job. Orgeron is a great pick for the D coordinator job. He is one of those guys who I think is a better assistant coach and coordinator than he is a head coach and there is nothing wrong with being that.

roosterrizk1
11-25-2007, 03:40 PM
That would be a great hire IMO.

87Cock09
11-25-2007, 03:46 PM
I would love to have him, but we arent getting rid of Nix, I'm pretty sure of that. Maybe we could bring him in as Co-defensive Cord though. I dont know if he would want to do that though, he'll probably get a full cordinator job somewhere.

Say what you want about Ed as a head coach, but I know for a fact he would get our guys fird up on defense, and find out who really wants to play in there.

Flameout12
11-25-2007, 04:02 PM
I would love to have him, but we arent getting rid of Nix, I'm pretty sure of that.
I'm not. HBC hates loosing and change is a way of life in college football. I'd say 50/50 and factor in another job offer, 60/40.

FinchMcCrunkNasty
11-25-2007, 04:06 PM
hell of a recruiter, would love to bring him in

87Cock09
11-25-2007, 04:13 PM
I'm not. HBC hates loosing and change is a way of life in college football. I'd say 50/50 and factor in another job offer, 60/40.

What other offer does he have?? I heard something about NCST.

U-Dub Gamecock
11-25-2007, 04:23 PM
Or at least bring him in to coach the LBs and D-Line..

cocknblue
11-25-2007, 04:25 PM
Mike Archer is the current d-coordinator at NC State.....haven't heard that he was leaving.

Gyle41386
11-25-2007, 04:33 PM
I'd be pretty shocked if Coach O didn't end up going back to Pete Carroll's staff.

SpinRBait
11-25-2007, 04:36 PM
Ed Orgeron is a great recruiter but he has never held the role of defensive coordinator. He'd be great to have on our staff though.

I think Ted Roof may be a better candidate for defensive coordinator. He had solid defenses at Georgia Tech, his alma mater, before he became head coach at Duke. He was well respected as a defensive coordinator.

Plus, as a Georgia Tech grad, he should have a natural dislike for Georgia.

CoverTwo
11-25-2007, 04:40 PM
Mike Stoops should be out at Arizona.

Give him whatever he wants to become our defensive coordinator if we choose to go that route.

We could also try to grab Bo Pelini or Will Muschamp (assuming that Miles & Tuberville are gone) if they dont get headcoaching jobs elsewhere.

COCKDIESEL
11-25-2007, 04:42 PM
Orgeron was the offensive line coach at SoCal wasn't he.

roosterrizk1
11-25-2007, 04:45 PM
Where is Tubberville going? Surely Auburn is not firing him??

Dr. Cock
11-25-2007, 04:47 PM
Where is Tubberville going? Surely Auburn is not firing him??

There are rampant rumors of him leaving AU to go to A&M. I think he stays, but him leaving would only be to our benefit. He's a great head coach and would be one less to face in the SEC.

Gyle41386
11-25-2007, 04:48 PM
Orgeron was the offensive line coach at SoCal wasn't he.

Defensive line coach from 98 to 03. Was named recruiting coordinator in 01. He was also a DL coach at Miami from 88 to 92. Multiple national championships were won while he was at Miami, and Southern Cal won the AP title in 03.

GOCOCKS63
11-25-2007, 04:50 PM
a bend but don't break defense does not work...does the past 3 years not prove that? I like the toughness he as implemented but if you're a defensive coordinator IMO you should be shooting for negative yards every play

KCSuge
11-25-2007, 04:52 PM
Defensive line coach from 98 to 03. Was named recruiting coordinator in 01. He was also a DL coach at Miami from 88 to 92. Multiple national championships were won while he was at Miami, and Southern Cal won the AP title in 03.

Sounds like a pretty good resume. I think Ed O and Carolina would be a good fit for each other. Perfect pick for D Coordinator.

SpinRBait
11-25-2007, 04:53 PM
Better yet, I think Ellis Johnson, defensive coordinator at Miss. State, would be a great hire if Ty Nix is not retained. He was interested in the defensive coordinator position when Spurrier was hired. He is a good recruiter as well.

He is a native of Winnsboro and his wife is from Columbia.

http://www.mstateathletics.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=90894&SPID=10997&DB_OEM_ID=16800&ATCLID=931605&Q_SEASON=2007

doccock
11-25-2007, 05:53 PM
Better yet, I think Ellis Johnson, defensive coordinator at Miss. State, would be a great hire if Ty Nix is not retained. He was interested in the defensive coordinator position when Spurrier was hired. He is a good recruiter as well.

He is a native of Winnsboro and his wife is from Columbia.



He turned it down to go to Miss St so I don't think SOS will give him another shot. No chance with Pellini. Possibility to go after Muschamp if Tub takes the A&M job, but he may be considered for the HC position at Auburn.
Orgeron has never been a coordinator and has proven that he's not a head coach. If he was willing to come on as a position coach then good.

We've had enough trouble on defense that I don't see SOS entrusting it to someone who has to learn on the job to run a whole defense.jmho
doc

Cigaro
11-25-2007, 06:05 PM
Yea Ed O was a D-Line coach. National Recruiter of the Year once. Coached some of the great Miami d-lineman such as Warren Sapp.

roosterrizk1
11-25-2007, 06:10 PM
a bend but don't break defense does not work...does the past 3 years not prove that? I like the toughness he as implemented but if you're a defensive coordinator IMO you should be shooting for negative yards every play

Three years my hind end. We have been doing this garbage for way too many years - remember Charlie Strong??

87Cock09
11-25-2007, 06:29 PM
Mike Stoops would be great, but I don't think he will be fired, the win over Oregon probably bought him another year. If he were to be fired though, Spurrier does have ties to him.

Flameout12
11-25-2007, 07:35 PM
What other offer does he have?? I heard something about NCST.
No..no...just Ty has been mentioned several times over the last few years as a HC candidate and maybe something will come up for him.

I just have a hard time seeing the HBC not making changes. He yanks QBs so why not coaches?
And how is he going to face all those GCC boosters and top level givers without being able to say he made adjustments?

Even if the new guys are not any better than the current ones, it's kinda like someone has to go after this year's debacle. And there are at least 3 key areas where things have fallen apart at some point during the season & we all know it was ugly.

We'll see......maybe something this week since the window to hire replacements is short.

Will4144
11-26-2007, 01:15 AM
Same here, Gyle.

Axman99
11-26-2007, 11:10 AM
He's a decent coach, but I wouldnt sacrafice Nix for him. Back when we beat Kentucky and Miss St, and we were goin into the UNC game, everyone on here thought Nix was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But now ya'll are all willing to throw him under the bus because of a bad stretch of season. C'mon, Nix has done a great job of developing players and schemes. And dont focus too much on Nix's gameplans that failed, because I'm pretty sure SOS was right there on his shoulder giving his imput. Yes, SOS is an offensive coach, but he put his hand into everything that happens on that team. I like our coaching staff and hope to see most of them back next year.

U-Dub Gamecock
11-26-2007, 11:17 AM
There is also alot of talk that Chan Gailey will probably be fired at GT.. Hell, if that happens.. we really need to go over Tenuda (D-Coordinator).. He really was the only one to stop Clemson all year...

USCfanlivingnKY
11-26-2007, 11:34 AM
He's a decent coach, but I wouldnt sacrafice Nix for him. Back when we beat Kentucky and Miss St, and we were goin into the UNC game, everyone on here thought Nix was the greatest thing since sliced bread. But now ya'll are all willing to throw him under the bus because of a bad stretch of season. C'mon, Nix has done a great job of developing players and schemes. And dont focus too much on Nix's gameplans that failed, because I'm pretty sure SOS was right there on his shoulder giving his imput. Yes, SOS is an offensive coach, but he put his hand into everything that happens on that team. I like our coaching staff and hope to see most of them back next year.

So you are happy with the defensive performance the last 5 games?

This is exactly what plagues Carolina football. The acceptance of mediocrity. Nix did not get the job done, nor did Hunt. We need to "make them available to the industry".

FeartheSpur
11-26-2007, 11:35 AM
lets hire 14 DC's maybe one can get the job done for each team we play next year

U-Dub Gamecock
11-26-2007, 11:35 AM
Somebody mentioned Bo Pellini.. and the chances of getting him...


I have a better chance of screwing Carrie Underwood

FeartheSpur
11-26-2007, 11:36 AM
So you are happy with the defensive performance the last 5 games?

This is exactly what plagues Carolina football. The acceptance of mediocrity. Nix did not get the job done, nor did Hunt. We need to "make them available to the industry".

sorry but VANDY was in that stretch so you can cut that to 4...

Then there was Smelley and the Offense giving up points against TN.... so cut it to 3...

And they didnt play that bad against Clemson so maybe 2 1/2....our d played like shit 2 games ....Arky and Florida...the best two rushing teams intthe nation

smoovecock
11-26-2007, 11:38 AM
a bend but don't break defense does not work...does the past 3 years not prove that? I like the toughness he as implemented but if you're a defensive coordinator IMO you should be shooting for negative yards every play

Three years my hind end. We have been doing this garbage for way too many years - remember Charlie Strong??.......Cant state it mch better than this....Ive been saying this for years.....

U-Dub Gamecock
11-26-2007, 11:38 AM
We still havent stopped the run the 3 years Nix has been here.. You cant win in the SEC if you cant stop the run..

uscnoklahoma
11-26-2007, 12:05 PM
We still havent stopped the run the 3 years Nix has been here.. You cant win in the SEC if you cant stop the run..

Ding ding....Winner, winner...Chicken Dinner. :thumbsup:

FoghornLeghornCock
11-26-2007, 12:08 PM
Per ESPN Chan Gailey of GA Tech was just fired you want somebody who knows how to take average talent and get the max out of a defense hire John Tenuta the defensive coordinator of GA Tech right now this guy knows how to coach his players up. Recruiting is one thing, but if you look at points allowed by the MS defense they were near the bottom. I want a guy who does not need the best talent to win like Ogeron had at So Cal. We won't out recruit GA TN, and FL we have to out coach them this is why we need Tenuta.

U-Dub Gamecock
11-26-2007, 12:16 PM
If I was SOS... I would be on the phone with Tenuta right now..

swampthing
11-26-2007, 02:13 PM
Somebody call Chuck Norris

CaptainSpur
11-28-2007, 09:53 AM
Suppose Nix goes to Southern Miss...who are our candidates or the DC job?

uscnoklahoma
11-28-2007, 09:55 AM
I would start the list with anyone who has never played 2 or 3 down lineman against Arky...that would be a great start in my book.

cocktailtime
11-28-2007, 10:12 AM
The guy from GA Tech, Tuluda??? He is my favoriate D coordinator in the country. And now with Gailey gone, who knows?

Adiossuck
11-28-2007, 10:13 AM
I wouldnt mind coach O from Mississippi, though he didnt do too well as a head coach he was pretty good while at So.Cal, plus hes familiar with SEC offenses.

hardcock2
11-28-2007, 10:13 AM
I would start the list with anyone who has never played 2 or 3 down lineman against Arky...that would be a great start in my book.

That would be a good start.:lol:

ShutTheSuccop
11-28-2007, 10:17 AM
is it bad for recruiting when our DC is out interviewing for other jobs?

Adiossuck
11-28-2007, 10:19 AM
is it bad for recruiting when our DC is out interviewing for other jobs?

i suppose if Nix promised them he'd stay or something maybe, but having other teams want our coaches can only make us look good. thats the way i see it anyway.

willy
11-28-2007, 10:27 AM
I would start the list with anyone who has never played 2 or 3 down lineman against Arky...that would be a great start in my book.



I like your idea.

USCocks3
11-28-2007, 10:59 AM
I'd start with Tenuta from GT, the guy is consistent...even with ACC talent. You can't deny his ability to put a fast, hard-hitting, CONSISTENT defense on the field year after year. And consistencey is HUGE for us right now. After that, I say why not go after a big name DC that maybe isn't going to get his shot at a head coaching job this year. Particularly one whose head coach was fired or left for another job...Bo Pelini perhaps? (if Miles ends up leaving, although I think Bo will get a HC job) Coach O from Ole Miss wouldn't be a bad choice by any stretch of the imagination, but not my first.

JAYBEZ
11-28-2007, 11:00 AM
The guy from GA Tech, Tuluda??? He is my favoriate D coordinator in the country. And now with Gailey gone, who knows?

I like him, but he may end up being the new Head Coach for Ga. Tech.

GamecockJosh
11-28-2007, 11:00 AM
Who do you guys think are some possible replacements for Nix should he be offered and accepts another position elsewhere?

ertman420
11-28-2007, 11:20 AM
I wouldnt mind coach O from Mississippi, though he didnt do too well as a head coach he was pretty good while at So.Cal, plus hes familiar with SEC offenses.

Agreed. Gimme Orgeron and I'll be a happy camper.

CockRoche
11-28-2007, 11:25 AM
Not that there is the slightest chance of it happening, since it's Christmans time, I'll say Will Muschamp from Auburn.

cockyguitarist
11-28-2007, 11:26 AM
We're probably all looking at Tenuta (sp?), Ogeron, and Bo Pelini. Honestly I would be willing to take any of em and would be happy with either one. Buts that all a big IF Nix does leave for whatever reason this year. Dont forget yall this all just speculation as of right now despite all the he said-she said-friends said stuff.

Beano Cook
11-28-2007, 11:30 AM
Orgeron is a top flight recruiter,however I'm not sold on him as a DC.Carroll is the true DC at Southern Cal,so I'm not sure how much coordinating he has actually done.However, one hidden benefit of hiring Coach O is we would get to ogle his wife for an extended period of time.She is a fine looking woman...Saw them together on a TV fishing show the other day.She even baits her own hook!

U-Dub Gamecock
11-28-2007, 11:42 AM
If Bo Pellini does not get the job at Nebraska.. I think we have a legit shot at him..... If we cant get him.. My hope:

(1) John Tenuta (DC--GT)
(2) Ed Oregon
(3) Reggie Herrring (DC--Arkansas)

Some other coaches I like that could run our defense.. (Realistic that we could get these guys)

U-Conn (DC)
Kansas (DC)

Beano Cook
11-28-2007, 11:45 AM
The one guy Spurrier should hire off the Ole Miss staff is their OL Coach.I believe his name is Art Kehoe.He was the OL coah at Miami during their glory years and he produced a number of All Americans and always had solid lines.Coker fired him two years ago in a move that shocked everyone.He is one of the most respected assistants in the country and he doesn'tv have a job.Hope SOS moves quickly cause somebody will grab him in a hurry.

TalkingHead
11-28-2007, 11:47 AM
Pellini, if he doesn't get the Nebraska job, will likely get a HC job at another big 1a school. Coming here would be a big step back for him at this point in his career.

kickerspl20
11-28-2007, 11:55 AM
i would go for coach O, He seems to be a great orator before games and during practice.....theres nothing like a good speech before u run our in front of 85k people. Makes you wanna hurt somebody. :)

kickerspl20
11-28-2007, 11:57 AM
The one guy Spurrier should hire off the Ole Miss staff is their OL Coach.I believe his name is Art Kehoe.He was the OL coah at Miami during their glory years and he produced a number of All Americans and always had solid lines.Coker fired him two years ago in a move that shocked everyone.He is one of the most respected assistants in the country and he doesn'tv have a job.Hope SOS moves quickly cause somebody will grab him in a hurry.

That is a great idea i had forgotten about that guy!! I say we should go after Charlie strong for the defensive side!!! worth a shot

COCKROCK
11-28-2007, 12:03 PM
Not sure if he would leave BC, but if he would this might be the time.... Frank Spaziani of Boston College would be huge.

4|_3|<54/\/|)3R
11-28-2007, 12:08 PM
Here's who I'd like to see:
http://gobearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/tresey_joe00.html


But for the record, I don't think Nix will leave (nor do I want him gone).

BuCockyfan
11-28-2007, 01:49 PM
What about Bobby Stoops? I mean he would leave Oklahoma to come here for DC position right? Or what about Pete Carroll? Hell, why not Gene Chizik. Those are possible DC's!

Honestly, why would Bo if he doesn't get the Nebraska job, leave LSU to come here? Why would Orgeron come here when he was at Southern Cal? Nobody from a major program is going to come here folks! Realize this. We are going to hire someone from a midmajor conference like Bowling Green or something.

CoverTwo
11-28-2007, 01:54 PM
We are going to hire someone from a midmajor conference like Bowling Green or something.

We will hire an NFL guy before that happens.

Cockhornleghorn
11-28-2007, 01:54 PM
Orgeron would be my choice because of his recruiting prowess.

hardcock2
11-28-2007, 01:55 PM
Here's who I'd like to see:
http://gobearcats.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/tresey_joe00.html


But for the record, I don't think Nix will leave (nor do I want him gone).

I thought about him too....I didn't know his name, but the Bearcat D is very fast and all over the place. The only team they had a problem with was WVU...and who doesn't.

BuCockyfan
11-28-2007, 01:59 PM
We will hire an NFL guy before that happens.

Probably Romeo Crennel or someone.

CoverTwo
11-28-2007, 02:04 PM
Probably Romeo Crennel or someone.

A position coach.

CreoleCock
11-28-2007, 02:40 PM
I don't really care as long as he doesn't come back.

Adiossuck
11-28-2007, 03:07 PM
Honestly, why would Bo if he doesn't get the Nebraska job, leave LSU to come here? Why would Orgeron come here when he was at Southern Cal? Nobody from a major program is going to come here folks! Realize this. We are going to hire someone from a midmajor conference like Bowling Green or something.


So??? Spurrier had a chance to go back to UF, and several other places. and im sure people may have thought.. why go to S.Car when he could go to UF but that didnt make a damn bit of difference.

Wagz
11-28-2007, 03:21 PM
Exactly....if USC is good enough for SOS, who's to say its not good enough for Pelini.

Possible conversation...


SOS: ring ring

BO: Bo Pelini speaking

SOS: Hey Bo, this the Ol Ball Coach...Why dont you come on down here to south carolina, be my defensive cordinator.

BO: Gosh, i dont know coach...i've got a pretty good gig here at LSU. I mean we dominate the SEC west and i'm kinda partial to gumbo and boiled crawfish.

SOS: Ah hell, anybody can win at LSU, we'd be making history here at south carolina. Did i mention they got pretty good chinese food here in columbia.

BO: Sign me up.

GeathersFan
11-28-2007, 03:32 PM
The guy from GA Tech, Tuluda??? He is my favoriate D coordinator in the country. And now with Gailey gone, who knows?

Thats exactly what I was thinking, I love GA Tech's DC.

Ga_Gamecock
11-28-2007, 03:52 PM
What about Bobby Stoops? I mean he would leave Oklahoma to come here for DC position right? Or what about Pete Carroll? Hell, why not Gene Chizik. Those are possible DC's!

Honestly, why would Bo if he doesn't get the Nebraska job, leave LSU to come here? Why would Orgeron come here when he was at Southern Cal? Nobody from a major program is going to come here folks! Realize this. We are going to hire someone from a midmajor conference like Bowling Green or something.


Thats crap ... coaches who get canned from head jobs take asst jobs all the time ... its the nature of the biz

Look at Cutcliffe ... he was forced out at Miss and went to ND then UT ...

it happens. quit being such a pessimist.

doccock
11-28-2007, 04:10 PM
I wouldnt mind coach O from Mississippi, though he didnt do too well as a head coach he was pretty good while at So.Cal, plus hes familiar with SEC offenses.

He was a DL coach at So Cal. He's never been a coordinator. And as you said he proved he wasn't very good as a HC.
We could do much better than to offer another guy on the job training.
doc

hardcock2
11-28-2007, 04:29 PM
So??? Spurrier had a chance to go back to UF, and several other places. and im sure people may have thought.. why go to S.Car when he could go to UF but that didnt make a damn bit of difference.

We got him thanks to the UF AD wanting to re-interview HBC. Spurrier said 'with my resume, no thanks'.

Do you think we made him interview? We just asked what golf courses do you want to be a member of.

FinchMcCrunkNasty
11-28-2007, 05:07 PM
I really hope we don't get that bald fattie exClempson Herring. We have no shot of getting Bo either. Why would he leave such a high profile position at LSU and go backwards to Carolina?

We realistically have a shot of getting Ga. Tech's or coach O.

mjmiller
11-28-2007, 05:38 PM
I really hope we don't get that bald fattie exClempson Herring. We have no shot of getting Bo either. Why would he leave such a high profile position at LSU and go backwards to Carolina?

We realistically have a shot of getting Ga. Tech's or coach O.


I agree. I dont want Herring, but teluda would be excellent.

Carolina4Life
11-28-2007, 06:12 PM
What about the guy from DC from Ohio state

Trooperdel
11-28-2007, 06:22 PM
I really hope we don't get that bald fattie exClempson Herring. We have no shot of getting Bo either. Why would he leave such a high profile position at LSU and go backwards to Carolina?

We realistically have a shot of getting Ga. Tech's or coach O.

I think that Reggie Herring has proven his legitimacy as a DC at Arkansas. he didn't do well at Klemson because taterTommy refused to give him any good athletes on the defensive side of the ball.

Five years ago, i would have laughed at the suggestion. Today, i think he's a better option than what we presently have.

Click
11-28-2007, 07:05 PM
Please God don't give us Reggie Herring. Everytime I see him all I think is "Clemson".

CoverTwo
11-28-2007, 07:09 PM
With Reggie Herron you should think:

Man to man press coverage and a TON of blitzing.

If thats what you want, Reggie Herron is your guy.

thedude0486
11-28-2007, 07:10 PM
I know everyone hear is gonna call BS on me but my father has mutual friends with coach O. And from what he said coach O is gonna be interviewed for the DC job. This is just what i heard i am in no way saying this is gonna happen its just what i heard from my dad don't kill me

Click
11-28-2007, 07:13 PM
With Reggie Herron you should think:

Man to man press coverage and a TON of blitzing.

If thats what you want, Reggie Herron is your guy.


That's what I want, so if we get him I'll learn to love him!

4|_3|<54/\/|)3R
11-28-2007, 07:14 PM
I still can't believe only two of us have thought of Cincy's DC! Do you all actually have something against the guy who was responsible for a defense that forced TWENTY NINE TURNOVERS last season?

IMO, we could get him fairly easily too...but as I said earlier, we won't be in need of a DC after this season lol. So I guess my input is pointless anyways.

I know, I know.. 'What else is new', right?

:rotfl:

87Cock09
11-28-2007, 07:18 PM
What about Mike Stoops?? If he gets canned at Arizona, I think that would be a sensational hire. Spurrier has connections with Bobby as his DC before. However, I think he saved his ass for another year with the win over Oregon.

CoverTwo
11-28-2007, 07:20 PM
Stoops is my top guy..Thats if Zona cans him but I think he has one more year..It looks like he finally found an offense to go with his defense.

Ga_Gamecock
11-28-2007, 07:30 PM
I know everyone hear is gonna call BS on me but my father has mutual friends with coach O. And from what he said coach O is gonna be interviewed for the DC job. This is just what i heard i am in no way saying this is gonna happen its just what i heard from my dad don't kill me

I have heard the same and some fans may groan - i know he hasnt produced much at Miss - but he brings a ton of energy and is a fired-up, defensive-minded coach.

i would really like to see what he could do, and what kind of fire he could infuse to our D.

We have a solid D group, but it seemed they lost the fire (to a degree) down the stretch ...

GamecockDad1531
11-28-2007, 08:11 PM
Pellini, if he doesn't get the Nebraska job, will likely get a HC job at another big 1a school. Coming here would be a big step back for him at this point in his career.

Agreed. No way we get him. Tenuta is the top candidate cuz I don't think he'll get the GT job. He's not the young, charismatic guy their AD is looking for.

Other candidates include Charlie Strong, Orgeron, Arky's DC, the DC of Spurrier's UF teams (can't remember his name, but I believe he currently works on the Houston Texans staff). Also, Ron Cooper has a shot at being promoted, although I don't know if he's ready. Also, Chavis from TN. Probably a couple other names out there of guys that are assistants currently.

cocknblue
11-28-2007, 08:13 PM
Tenuta is not terribly fond of recruiting....so keep that in mind.

When he was at UNC, he showed utter disdain for the process. It's one of the reasons Bunting chased him away.

Independent Cock
11-28-2007, 08:28 PM
Reggie Herring, even after leaving Clemson, has taken numerous shots at South Carolina any chance he has had. I know a bar owner in the upstate who was sent a Houston Texans team photo from a few years back when Herring was on that staff (2002-2003) and under his autograph was "Gamecocks still suck".

Nuff said about baldy and besides, he's going to Ole Miss with Houston Nutt after he "coaches" the bowl game.

GO COCKS!!!

cocknblue
11-28-2007, 08:29 PM
Herring's defenses are only slightly better than Joe Lee Dunn's....if you have a decent offensive line and can pick up the blitzes, there are long gains to be had.

Wazir
11-28-2007, 08:33 PM
Don't know much about these guys. The GT man may be ok and Orgeron from Miss. Forget Strong. He left us as soon as the next offer came along. If he came back I'd like to personally kick him in the butt.

Leave that up to SOS. A most DISSAPOINTING regular season. I posted and thought 8 wins would be about our level. Probably should have had them, but poor playing and coaching will do that:and we've had plenty of that this year!

thedude0486
11-28-2007, 10:08 PM
coach O is a incredibly firy coach and one hell of a reruiter. He was the head of recruiting as well the DC at southern cal before ole miss for what thats worth.

COCKDIESEL
11-28-2007, 10:13 PM
coach O is a incredibly firy coach and one hell of a reruiter. He was the head of recruiting as well the DC at southern cal before ole miss for what thats worth.
He was the dline coach at socal wasnt' he. I dont' think he was the DC

Flameout12
11-28-2007, 10:15 PM
Herring's defenses are only slightly better than Joe Lee Dunn's....if you have a decent offensive line and can pick up the blitzes, there are long gains to be had.
Poor JLD...he was an interesting DC. When he was at MSU, I watched LSU kill him one night. They just had options for his blitz and everytime he brought the house, LSU just burned him.

I'd settle for someone who can have a decent run defense. If we can do that, our offense has a chance.

cockybusiness2
11-28-2007, 10:29 PM
Poor JLD...he was an interesting DC. When he was at MSU, I watched LSU kill him one night. They just had options for his blitz and everytime he brought the house, LSU just burned him.

I'd settle for someone who can have a decent run defense. If we can do that, our offense has a chance.

Poor JLD'sdefense was responsible for 1984... Can you say FIREANTS:thumbsup:

thedude0486
11-28-2007, 10:29 PM
He was the dline coach at socal wasnt' he. I dont' think he was the DC

I think he was the DC but you may be right. But i do know for sure that he was in charge of recruiting, not that it takes much more than a phone call and a scholorship offer to get just about anr 5 star recruit to go to So Cal

kevin
11-28-2007, 10:36 PM
I think GT DC would be great hire but getting Reggie Herring would sure piss Clemsux off

Ga_Gamecock
11-29-2007, 12:00 AM
I think he was the DC but you may be right. But i do know for sure that he was in charge of recruiting, not that it takes much more than a phone call and a scholorship offer to get just about anr 5 star recruit to go to So Cal


hes recruited well for Miss ....

Flameout12
11-29-2007, 12:33 AM
Poor JLD'sdefense was responsible for 1984... Can you say FIREANTS:thumbsup:
Not really, Try '87 & '88.

Will4144
11-29-2007, 01:01 AM
Don't know if they'd be interested but...
Bud Foster - Virginia Tech
Jon Tenuta - Georgia Tech
Matt Eberflus - Missouri
Wally Burnham - South Florida
Bill Young - Kansas
Mike London - Virginia

And of course, a darkhorse (maybe not as a DC, but we should get him on the defensive staff): John Hendrick - SC State

Hendrick's Bulldogs allowed 19.6 points a game while giving up 286 total yards a game.

cocknblue
11-29-2007, 06:55 AM
We need a DCoordinator who knows how to stop the spread....given the success of Kansas, Missouri, WestVa, and (to a lesser extent) Florida, more teams will be moving toward that type of offense.

Especially in the SEC where speed is king.

Adiossuck
11-29-2007, 07:43 AM
We just asked what golf courses do you want to be a member of.

Well pitch that again.

No Curse
11-29-2007, 07:46 AM
hes recruited well for Miss ....

recruited well but couldn't coach them??

why would we want him

Carolina4Life
11-29-2007, 07:52 AM
I was thinking Mark Dantonio from Ohio State but i think he just left for michigan state !

tevraw67
11-29-2007, 09:41 AM
one thing to keep in mind Tenuta makes 400k at GT or so i have heard. I dont think we will spend that much.

CoverTwo
11-29-2007, 09:47 AM
I wish Bill Olliver would come out of retirement..

sluggo
11-29-2007, 11:13 AM
I had hoped for Mike Stoops, but after he beat Oregon there is no chance. Orgeron could be an interesting choice. He doesn't have the personality for a head coach, but is of the right mind to be a DC. I think he would bring some fire to the defense.

Dr. Cock
11-29-2007, 11:23 AM
I honestly don't have a lot of insight on this particular subject, so I have a question: My top 2 choices would be Mike Stoops Ed Orgeron. Stoops has a great reputaton as a DC and Orgeron is one hell of a recruiter. Does anyone have some good insight on these two guys and what schemes they like to run? While stopping the spread is important, what I would find even more particularly attractive is the ability to stop the run, which has plauged us for years and years.

FLGamecock71
11-29-2007, 11:31 AM
If Nix were to leave, I'd be thrilled to get Tenuta. I'm not so sure about Orgeron. I can't imagine Bud Foster would leave Va. Tech, unless it's for a head coaching gig. Same for Bo Pelini. The mention of Wally Burnham made me vomit in my mouth a little bit. I'll throw one more name out there... Ron English at Michigan. If Miles leavse LSU for UM, I wonder if he'd change the entire staff. Just a thought.

Blitzer
11-29-2007, 04:39 PM
Orgeron is a great recruiter no doubt but he was not the defensive coordinator at SoCal- he was only the DL coach. More importantly his defenses at Ole Miss have been ranked about where ours have been - in the 100s int he country. Tenuta at GT on the other hand has had defenses int he top 20 against the run the last 3 years. Seems like a no brainer if we we were choosing between the 2.

FoghornLeghornCock
11-29-2007, 04:55 PM
one thing to keep in mind Tenuta makes 400k at GT or so i have heard. I dont think we will spend that much. Tenuta is making 400K a year we are paying 195K for Nix if we could get Tenuta I think and pay him well we might keep him rather than like most hot young coaches lose them soon. If we lose Nix Tenuta is my choice heck I started a thread when Gailey was fired. We can't out recruit TN, FL, and GA. We have to outcoach them and Tenuta has proven himself, there will be no training wheels needed for him.

dshocker
11-29-2007, 05:03 PM
Don't know if they'd be interested but...
Bud Foster - Virginia Tech
Jon Tenuta - Georgia Tech
Matt Eberflus - Missouri
Wally Burnham - South Florida
Bill Young - Kansas
Mike London - Virginia

And of course, a darkhorse (maybe not as a DC, but we should get him on the defensive staff): John Hendrick - SC State

Hendrick's Bulldogs allowed 19.6 points a game while giving up 286 total yards a game.

I am still for Tenuta myself. Stoops has to be fired, and that would have happened by now. Wally is a name I have not thought of, but I am not sure we would want him. Foster, Young, and London would not move laterally IMO. I don't think we could steel Eberflus.

roosterrizk1
11-29-2007, 05:55 PM
Wally is a name I have not thought of, but I am not sure we would want him.


No - we do not want Wally !!!

CockySpurrier85
11-29-2007, 06:28 PM
I'd love Orgeron because of his recruiting abilities and he could maybe bring some of Ole Miss' class from this season here to USC.

cockman97
11-29-2007, 06:30 PM
What Jo Le Dunn up to these days?

87Cock09
11-29-2007, 07:30 PM
I am still for Tenuta myself. Stoops has to be fired, and that would have happened by now. Wally is a name I have not thought of, but I am not sure we would want him. Foster, Young, and London would not move laterally IMO. I don't think we could steel Eberflus.


Well Arizona's regular season hasnt ended yet, they play this weekend so Stoops COULD still get fired, but I'm guessing his win over Oregon saved his ass for another year, damn Dennis Dixon injury lol.

If Tenuta really makes 400K like people have said theres no way we can offer him that much to come here.

BlackMagicCock
11-30-2007, 01:09 AM
Say Nix takes the Southern Miss job, who would be our first choice? I like either


Jon Tenuta (Georgia Tech) http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/tenuta_jon00.html

or

Ed Orgeron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Orgeron


thoughts?

hardcock2
11-30-2007, 01:11 AM
definitely Tenuta out of those two.

Ga_Gamecock
11-30-2007, 01:28 AM
i like orgeron's recruitment abilitites

FlorenceCock
11-30-2007, 01:46 AM
i like orgeron's recruitment abilitites
As do I but I would much rather have Tenuta's coaching ability!

hardcock2
11-30-2007, 01:52 AM
...and Tenuta would have the Atlanta area covered real well for us.

robgusc76
11-30-2007, 01:54 AM
If Coach Nix decides to go to Southern Miss. if he is offered the job, who do you think would be good to get as a replacement? Personably i dont think its a good time to bring a you Dcoordinator because of where our defense is now unless we know for sure he can do the job. I think we should try to lure Pete Caroll away from southern cal. Just kidding, but in all seriousness who would be the next right man for the job?

bcgibson75
11-30-2007, 01:58 AM
You might not remember, but Tenuta was DCoordinator for John Cooper at "The" Ohio State University in 2000.

Can you say Outback Bowl 24-7, Cocks!!??!!

Wonder if he still has nightmares about Ryan Brewer w/a chip on his shoulder blasting through his Big Ten Defense???

No, he is a top notch Coordinator---will be Head Coach for GTech in their bowl game....if they win, look for him to get the permanent job as Head Coach there in ATL.

morgan n' 7
11-30-2007, 02:06 AM
I'm surprised no one has brought up Phil Bennett. He was a solid defensive coordinator. Aggressive and successful defenses. Not a good head coach, but a very good coordinator.

bigmuthafooka
11-30-2007, 06:21 AM
I hope Nix stays cuz we have a young D that is learning under him, if we bring in someone else that means a whole new system that they will have to learn by next fall

Blitzer
11-30-2007, 09:18 AM
From Tunuta's bio:
Over the last three seasons, the Yellow Jackets have ranked in the Top 30 nationally in total defense, scoring defense, rushing defense and pass efficiency defense each year., including 20th or higher against the run all three years.

WANT

TalkingHead
11-30-2007, 09:39 AM
I hope Nix stays cuz we have a young D that is learning under him, if we bring in someone else that means a whole new system that they will have to learn by next fall

Those points work both ways.

Brinkley_Bulldozer52
11-30-2007, 09:43 AM
From Tunuta's bio:
Over the last three seasons, the Yellow Jackets have ranked in the Top 30 nationally in total defense, scoring defense, rushing defense and pass efficiency defense each year., including 20th or higher against the run all three years.

WANT

agreed

athenscock2
11-30-2007, 10:07 AM
GT is paying him big bucks. He likes it in Atlanta and more importantly his wife and family like GT and Atlanta. My guess is he stays at GT no matter who the hc is and it will be made clear to all candidates it's his decision to stay or leave. Don't think you'll see him at USC.

Freehawk
11-30-2007, 10:29 AM
First of all I really hope Nix leaves, he in my opinion, has been a terrible coordinator. I hate the 2 and 3 man fronts, the lack of pressure, lack of fundamentals in tackling, and his ineffective blitzing.


Are your complaints actually based on fact?

1. I have not seen many 2 and three man fronts, if at all. We occasionally are in a 5 man front look, that really is no different than a 4-3 front with a LB shifted. Formations are way overrated.

2. Lack of pressure. Every year I say we need a pass rush, but I don't think any coach coaches not to rush the passer.

3. Fundamental tackling -- I don't see that as so much a problem. Huge gaping holes and missed assignments, more of the problem.

4. Ineffective blitzing -- thsi is not a coaches fault. If you are saying the frequency he calls blitzes, well that is an opinion (remember Fire Ants bowl game against Todd Hodson & LSU -- blitzes can get you beat). But blitzing and not getting to the QB, that is up to the player. We have missed Rachad Faison these years -- a guy who really WANTED to get the QB. Norwood has that ability, but fell off the last third of year -- maybe was being asked to do more. I think E Cook is a good blitzer.

Freehawk
11-30-2007, 10:31 AM
GT is paying him big bucks. He likes it in Atlanta and more importantly his wife and family like GT and Atlanta. My guess is he stays at GT no matter who the hc is and it will be made clear to all candidates it's his decision to stay or leave. Don't think you'll see him at USC.

You may be right. I respect coordinators who are comfortable in that role, as opposed to those who rise above that competency (see Van Gorder).

However, I don't think he will ever be more marketable than he is right now.

Freehawk
11-30-2007, 10:33 AM
From Tunuta's bio:
Over the last three seasons, the Yellow Jackets have ranked in the Top 30 nationally in total defense, scoring defense, rushing defense and pass efficiency defense each year., including 20th or higher against the run all three years.

WANT

He's probably a good coach. Not getting too excited about stats padded by the ACC/ non-conference schedule.

USCfanlivingnKY
11-30-2007, 12:03 PM
Are your complaints actually based on fact?

1. I have not seen many 2 and three man fronts, if at all. We occasionally are in a 5 man front look, that really is no different than a 4-3 front with a LB shifted. Formations are way overrated.

2. Lack of pressure. Every year I say we need a pass rush, but I don't think any coach coaches not to rush the passer.

3. Fundamental tackling -- I don't see that as so much a problem. Huge gaping holes and missed assignments, more of the problem.

4. Ineffective blitzing -- thsi is not a coaches fault. If you are saying the frequency he calls blitzes, well that is an opinion (remember Fire Ants bowl game against Todd Hodson & LSU -- blitzes can get you beat). But blitzing and not getting to the QB, that is up to the player. We have missed Rachad Faison these years -- a guy who really WANTED to get the QB. Norwood has that ability, but fell off the last third of year -- maybe was being asked to do more. I think E Cook is a good blitzer.


LAST THIRD? TRY LAST HALF OF THE YEAR!!!!

MauldinCock87
11-30-2007, 02:15 PM
hey now, dont go gettin down on eric. he played good as hell in the clemson game

GamecockSkip
11-30-2007, 02:23 PM
Who's the best possible DC? Whoever Coach Spurrier is comfortable with and wants. As an offensive guy, he will know best who available is the toughest to prepair for.

crowcutta
11-30-2007, 02:42 PM
Are your complaints actually based on fact?

1. I have not seen many 2 and three man fronts, if at all. We occasionally are in a 5 man front look, that really is no different than a 4-3 front with a LB shifted. Formations are way overrated.

answer to the first question, of course not. its become the vogue thing as of late to say we ran two man fronts 99 percent of the time this year because if you want somebody fired its better to say something retarded and ridiculously untrue and bring it up over and over again to make others believe the same thing. agreed on the formations, the overwhelming majority of the time we are bringing at least 4 people to rush the passer. we did run a bunch of 3 man formations after the injuries to jasper and pepper but also consider who are two base outside linebackers have been in that formation, eric norwood and cliff matthews, both guys who started out strictly as defensive ends this year. so essentially yes we did have 5 defensive linemen out there a good portion of the year.

wincocks84
11-30-2007, 02:48 PM
I think itll be best to keep Nix if possible... for goodness sakes our D was depleated this yr...

Blitzer
11-30-2007, 03:00 PM
answer to the first question, of course not. its become the vogue thing as of late to say we ran two man fronts 99 percent of the time this year because if you want somebody fired its better to say something retarded and ridiculously untrue and bring it up over and over again to make others believe the same thing. agreed on the formations, the overwhelming majority of the time we are bringing at least 4 people to rush the passer. we did run a bunch of 3 man formations after the injuries to jasper and pepper but also consider who are two base outside linebackers have been in that formation, eric norwood and cliff matthews, both guys who started out strictly as defensive ends this year. so essentially yes we did have 5 defensive linemen out there a good portion of the year. Furthermore, we may have only had 3 down prior to the snap but we rarely rushed less than 4. We disguised which side the 4th and\or 5th rusher was coming from. You know the Patriots and many other NFL teams only use 3 down linemen.

ra742002
11-30-2007, 04:33 PM
eventhough I think Pelini will get a HC job, I'd love to see him come here. His D's are NASTY. And, maybe he would stick around until Steve leaves, and he'd fit right in for the HC job here.

Blitzer
11-30-2007, 04:58 PM
eventhough I think Pelini will get a HC job, I'd love to see him come here. His D's are NASTY. And, maybe he would stick around until Steve leaves, and he'd fit right in for the HC job here.
His nasty D only gave up 180 to McFadden on the ground.

Ga_Gamecock
11-30-2007, 05:04 PM
His nasty D only gave up 180 to McFadden on the ground.
so his D shut D MAc down about 60+% more than our did. thats significant

athenscock2
11-30-2007, 06:57 PM
Tom Gadd was the fireants dc, if I'm not mistaken.

Click
11-30-2007, 06:59 PM
His nasty D only gave up 180 to McFadden on the ground.

McFadden's a monster. Not many D's are just going to shut him down.

Gamecocks4ever
11-30-2007, 10:40 PM
Auburn shut down McFadden and held him to 42 yds. If Nix accepts the Southern Miss job, I think we should try to get Muschamp as our DC but It would be hard to sway him from Auburn. Tunuta is another good choice for a DC.

gamecockox
12-01-2007, 02:23 AM
what about john chavis........ isn't he from sc and his been at u of tenn a long time , maybe he would like a change.......seems like a long shot

USCKEN
12-01-2007, 02:31 AM
I HEAR CHAVIS IS INTERESTED!!! HE IS FROM HERE...

morgan n' 7
12-01-2007, 02:49 AM
Tom Gadd was the fireants dc, if I'm not mistaken. Correct.

McNasty
12-01-2007, 02:51 AM
The guy from GA Tech, Tuluda??? He is my favoriate D coordinator in the country. And now with Gailey gone, who knows?

he's my #1 too. he blitzes everytime, but he says he doesn't. he always says "i only sent 5 guys". apparently a blitz to him is 9 or more. haha.

Flameout12
12-01-2007, 08:27 AM
You know guys, not trying to kill this discussion, but I think we're gonna have T.Nix next year for DC.

cocknblue
12-01-2007, 08:34 AM
You know guys, not trying to kill this discussion, but I think we're gonna have T.Nix next year for DC.
I think you are right...I think he's going to get a head coaching gig one day soon, but I don't think it will be this year.

usc1
12-01-2007, 10:02 AM
what about john chavis........ isn't he from sc and his been at u of tenn a long time , maybe he would like a change.......seems like a long shot

If Chavis becomes our D-Coordinator im gonna quit being a USC fan. Tenn's defense was god-awful this year and Chavis was under fire for most of the year.

TalkingHead
12-01-2007, 11:30 AM
If Chavis becomes our D-Coordinator im gonna quit being a USC fan. Tenn's defense was god-awful this year and Chavis was under fire for most of the year.

Tenn. is playing in the SEC championship game today. Their defense couldn't have been too bad.

Looks like Tenuda may end up in Michigan if Miles takes the job there.

swampthing
12-01-2007, 11:40 AM
Lets face it we are going to either keep NIx or get a DC that was under his tutelage and have the same problem next year. IF I am correct we still have smaller guys than everyone else. You can be as fast as you want but if you run into a wall you run into a wall. The only thing I believe the speed will do is make our guys fall down harder. We need big guys with some speed but more Technique.. But then again I ain't a coach

Ga_Gamecock
12-01-2007, 11:42 AM
Lets face it we are going to either keep NIx or get a DC that was under his tutelage and have the same problem next year. IF I am correct we still have smaller guys than everyone else. You can be as fast as you want but if you run into a wall you run into a wall. The only thing I believe the speed will do is make our guys fall down harder. We need big guys with some speed but more Technique.. But then again I ain't a coach

there are others out there ...

what about that nut from ole miss? didnt orgeron rip of his shirt (a la hulk hogan) during off-season drills to get his guys pumped up?

haha

i would like to see that kind of fire in our D

FoghornLeghornCock
12-01-2007, 11:44 AM
Kirk Herbstreet on ESPN's sportcenter says he has heard Les Miles goes to Michigan and Tenuta will be his defensive coordinator?

Flameout12
12-01-2007, 11:49 AM
Kirk Herbstreet on ESPN's sportcenter says he has heard Les Miles goes to Michigan and Tenuta will be his defensive coordinator?Sounds like real big money to me. Prolly the hightest paid DC in the nation.

Coondog
12-01-2007, 11:58 AM
Yea, I think Mich is real tired of losing to Ohio Stand is ready to fork out the big bucks to turn it around.

87Cock09
12-02-2007, 05:24 PM
Tenuta will probably go to LSU to be D cordinator there to replace Pelinni, if he doesn't get the GT job.

bgallup
12-02-2007, 05:26 PM
whats the latest on Nix and Southern Miss.

mjmiller
12-03-2007, 01:05 AM
I know this thread is about "possible DC's", but we have a damn good DC in Tyrone Nix. Some make it seem like they are hoping for one of these other guys instead of Nix, which is disrespectful towards Nix. It's funny to me how people think that if Teluda or Orgeron come here our defense will be that much better. Show some respect.

cocknfire420
12-03-2007, 01:12 AM
I dont think Nix is the resason our Defense was terrible, injuries killed us. He cant be the blame but an Ogeron IMO would be a sice upgrade, esp in recruiting. Some sort of shake-up is needed to get us going in the right direction.

Gamecock_4life
12-03-2007, 01:19 AM
I dont think Nix is the resason our Defense was terrible, injuries killed us. He cant be the blame but an Ogeron IMO would be a sice upgrade, esp in recruiting. Some sort of shake-up is needed to get us going in the right direction. ur so right.......he just calls a three man rush on the goalline, against FU

willy
12-03-2007, 08:50 AM
I know this thread is about "possible DC's", but we have a damn good DC in Tyrone Nix. Some make it seem like they are hoping for one of these other guys instead of Nix, which is disrespectful towards Nix. It's funny to me how people think that if Teluda or Orgeron come here our defense will be that much better. Show some respect.



I don't think it that way at all. The fact of the matter is Nix maybe hired as the head coach at Miss. Southern and we had better be prepared to replace him.

mjmiller
12-03-2007, 01:04 PM
I don't think it that way at all. The fact of the matter is Nix maybe hired as the head coach at Miss. Southern and we had better be prepared to replace him.

Yeah, and he probably will become the head coach at Southern Miss. But until that happens T Nix is the DC.

4|_3|<54/\/|)3R
12-11-2007, 01:23 PM
So everyone talks about their 'wish list'. Who do we have the best chance at getting? Everyone seems to like Tenuta, but I'd also like to throw a couple of names out there:

1. Joe Tresey-Cincinnati DC
2. Frank Spaziani-Boston College DC

ewjake
12-11-2007, 01:26 PM
Is john Tenuda(sp?) goi ng to Mich

4|_3|<54/\/|)3R
12-11-2007, 01:31 PM
Is john Tenuda(sp?) goi ng to Mich

Haven't seen anything about that anywhere.

IHateOrange
12-11-2007, 01:31 PM
Is john Tenuda(sp?) goi ng to Mich

Nobody knows who is going to Michigan yet.

Dr. Cock
12-11-2007, 01:33 PM
I would absolutely LOVE GT's coordinator. That would be an unreal hire if we got him. He knows how to run a defense.

Orgeron... not sure abou this defense. He was OL coach at So Cal I believe, so I don't know how much experience he would have at directly running a defense, unless he had a lot of hands of experience with the unit at Ole Miss. Regardless, he is one hell of a recruiter though.

COCK PIT
12-11-2007, 01:34 PM
John Hoke. Was with Spurrier during his last years in Florida and left to go to the NFL with Capers at Houston. He followed Bob Stoops as DC at Florida.

happygilmore527
12-11-2007, 01:41 PM
What about Brent Venables?

ConwayGamecock
12-11-2007, 01:41 PM
I would absolutely LOVE GT's coordinator. That would be an unreal hire if we got him. He knows how to run a defense.

Orgeron... not sure abou this defense. He was OL coach at So Cal I believe, so I don't know how much experience he would have at directly running a defense, unless he had a lot of hands of experience with the unit at Ole Miss. Regardless, he is one hell of a recruiter though.

about the only thing that kept USC's run D out of last place in the SEC this season was one other SEC team's run defense: Mississippi's. After the Arkansas and Florida games, we over took OM's D for the grand prize, and now they have the 11th best run D.

Passing D they were 10/12 (UT and UF), scoring D they were 11/12 (UK), and total D they were 12/12. I'm not sure we would want The Ogre......maybe as our Recruiting Coordinator, but not as our DC.....

Dr. Cock
12-11-2007, 01:42 PM
about the only thing that kept USC's run D out of last place in the SEC this season was one other SEC team's run defense: Mississippi's. After the Arkansas and Florida games, we over took OM's D for the grand prize, and now they have the 11th best run D.

Passing D they were 10/12 (UT and UF), scoring D they were 11/12 (UK), and total D they were 12/12. I'm not sure we would want The Ogre......maybe as our Recruiting Coordinator, but not as our DC.....

Well, that certainly answers my question!

happygilmore527
12-11-2007, 01:49 PM
Orgeron is a good recruiter but I think our recruiting coordinator is doing a fine job as it is. I don't think it would help too much to bring him on. It's definitely going to be interesting to see the names pop out in search of a new DC.

Ga_Gamecock
12-11-2007, 01:51 PM
orgeron would send 11 every play LOL

CaptainCrunch
12-11-2007, 01:59 PM
What about someone in house like a Ron Cooper?

happygilmore527
12-11-2007, 02:01 PM
I like Cooper in the role he is in now....he could potentially be promoted to Asst. HC to fill Nix's role in that.

CaptainCrunch
12-11-2007, 02:04 PM
I like Cooper in the role he is in now....he could potentially be promoted to Asst. HC to fill Nix's role in that.

he is currently assistant HC according to uscsports.com
http://gamecocksonline.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/scar-m-footbl-mtt.html#coaches

willy
12-11-2007, 02:04 PM
John Hoke. Was with Spurrier during his last years in Florida and left to go to the NFL with Capers at Houston. He followed Bob Stoops as DC at Florida.



I don't care as long as he is a proven entity.

hardcock2
12-11-2007, 02:08 PM
I like the obvious, Tenuta.....and Cincy's Tresey.

ROWDY ROOSTER
12-11-2007, 02:12 PM
sure would be nice to have charlie strong back

TalkingHead
12-11-2007, 02:27 PM
about the only thing that kept USC's run D out of last place in the SEC this season was one other SEC team's run defense: Mississippi's. After the Arkansas and Florida games, we over took OM's D for the grand prize, and now they have the 11th best run D.

Passing D they were 10/12 (UT and UF), scoring D they were 11/12 (UK), and total D they were 12/12. I'm not sure we would want The Ogre......maybe as our Recruiting Coordinator, but not as our DC.....

Any coincidence that the second worst defense in the SEC was lead by Tye's ex boss and our ex DC, John Thompson? It would certainly explain why defensively we have taken a step back since Lou left.

brave
12-11-2007, 02:29 PM
My concern is what will this do to the defensive recruits now that Nix is leaving.:spurrier:

McNasty
12-11-2007, 02:29 PM
... I'll do it.

no.... no no.

i just hope we get someone that brings pressure. we have a lot of power in our front 7 and we need to use it.

TalkingHead
12-11-2007, 02:34 PM
My concern is what will this do to the defensive recruits now that Nix is leaving.:spurrier:

I am more excited for what it means to the players we already have. I am not going to cry about ones that aren't even here yet.

cockpit7
12-11-2007, 02:43 PM
This is a move that had to happen considering everything that went down this year. This move could get us with the right talent to the next level. Trust in SOS. Thank you! :woo:

FinchMcCrunkNasty
12-11-2007, 02:45 PM
Well everyone got what they wished for! I hope this doesn't come back to bite us in the ass! I really hope we go after GT's DC with everything we have. I would love Auburn's or BC's as well but I just don't see either of them coming here, seems like a lateral move for them.

jackdanielsgamecock
12-11-2007, 02:48 PM
How about RON ENGLISH from Michigan...he has been very successful there over the last few years

rock23aj
12-11-2007, 02:49 PM
Wally Burnham? Joe Lee Dunn? :)

gamecocknva
12-11-2007, 02:52 PM
What about someone in house like a Ron Cooper?

I really hope that doesn't happen.

CaptainCrunch
12-11-2007, 02:55 PM
Wally Burnham? Joe Lee Dunn? :)

Where is Joe Lee Dunn these days?

carolinafan81
12-11-2007, 02:59 PM
how bout just dc that can stop the run not 2 much 2 ask for

FeartheSpur
12-11-2007, 03:00 PM
burnham is at south florida...dunn was at memphis dont think he still is though

FeartheSpur
12-11-2007, 03:01 PM
i would prefer GT's DC...he might be looking to leave since he didnt get the head coaching job

SC Rooster
12-11-2007, 03:02 PM
Im hearing.....

Vangorder
or
Hoke

ShutTheSuccop
12-11-2007, 03:02 PM
I thought that Tenuta was going to Michigan, but it never made sense to me since they still don't have a HC

carolinafan81
12-11-2007, 03:08 PM
by espn mich still going after les miles i think after nc game he be mich coach

happygilmore527
12-11-2007, 03:13 PM
he is currently assistant HC according to uscsports.com
http://gamecocksonline.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/scar-m-footbl-mtt.html#coaches

Well nevermind then. I thought Nix was. Maybe that was previously.

SC Rooster
12-11-2007, 03:15 PM
Strike that I am almost certain it will be Still......

Will4144
12-11-2007, 03:16 PM
John Fox. The Panthers would be dumb to keep him after this year with Bill Cowher and Bill Parcells on the market. He used to run very good defenses and with his older age, he may want to slow down having football force fed to him 24/7. I know it's a million to one shot, but I'd like to have him.

CaptainCrunch
12-11-2007, 03:18 PM
haha, that would be nuts if we got John Fox as our dc

SC Rooster
12-11-2007, 03:18 PM
sorry for the spelling before.

steele

Love Boat Captain
12-11-2007, 03:18 PM
Im hearing.....

Vangorder
or
Hoke

Brian VanGorder is a heck of a football coach.

I know some won't like it but I think Reggie Herring would be a great choice. Reggie will be needing a job after the bowl game and we have one available.

Both have coached top flight defense every stop along the way.

I believe VanGorder was the assistant coach of the year a few years ago.

FinchMcCrunkNasty
12-11-2007, 03:18 PM
O.K. I'm at work right now and my boss just came in here and told me he said the Columbia Radio idiots are saying that Bud Foster is being talked to to replace Nix. They said that Foster has been trying to get a head coaching job somewhere and doesn't feel like it is going to happen in Blacksburg with Beamer there. If he came to USC and made us nasty then he could get a coaching job anywhere. They are also talking about the Shane Beamer connection. Sounds like a load of poopie to me.
***Once again, this is just some crap Columbia radio guys are saying, would be awesome, but won't happen. ***

LegalCock
12-11-2007, 03:20 PM
Hoke already passed on the job once.

FoghornLeghornCock
12-11-2007, 03:21 PM
I know a lot of us have some interest in Tenuta and this might be of interest.

Tech, Navy assistants await answers
Johnson traditionally has been loyal to his coaches

By MIKE KNOBLER (mknobler@ajc.com)
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 12/07/07 http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/gatech/stories/2007/12/07/techcoachside_1208.html Paul Johnson has been loyal to his assistant coaches, and they have been loyal to him.
All nine on his Navy staff have been with him since the opening kickoff of his 2002 debut in Annapolis. Four worked for him at Georgia Southern, including two who have been with him since his first year as a head coach. One quarterbacked for him at Hawaii.

So it was very much in character on Friday when Johnson said he expects "a nucleus" of his Navy staff to come work for him now that he is the coach at Georgia Tech.
Johnson said it was too early for him to know how many assistants would come with him or how many of Tech's current coaches he would choose to retain. He kept two coaches from Navy's staff when he came to Annapolis after the 2001 season.
Tech defensive coordinator and interim coach Jon Tenuta declined to comment when asked if he would consider staying to work for Johnson. Johnson said he hadn't talked with Tenuta or Tech's other assistants.
Tech's defensive coaches and Navy's offensive coaches might have an edge based on how the teams fared this season. Navy, the nation's leading rushing team, ranks 11th-worst in scoring defense. Tech ranks 11th in total defense and 17th in scoring defense.
Defensive line coach and recruiting coordinator Giff Smith and linebackers coach Brian Jean-Mary said they would be interested in remaining on Tech's staff.
Smith was secondary coach under Johnson at Georgia Southern in 1997 and 1998, and Johnson was Georgia Southern's offensive coordinator in 1986, Smith's first season as a defensive end for the Eagles.
"He hired me for my first full-time job," Smith said. "He was good. He's detailed. He's organized. He did an excellent job down there. He was good to work for. He delegates responsibility as long as you're doing your job."
Jean-Mary gained respect for Johnson when Jean-Mary was an Appalachian State linebacker and Johnson was Georgia Southern's coach.
"I know how hard it was to scheme against his offense," said Jean-Mary, who went 1-1 against Johnson's teams in what Jean-Mary said was the biggest game on Appalachian State's schedule.
"We're just all sort of waiting to see what goes on," said Navy defensive line coach and recruiting coordinator Dale Pehrson, who hopes to follow Johnson to Tech. Pehrson, who has been coaching for 30 years, called his time working for Johnson "the best six years of coaching I've had."
It's unusual for a staff to stay together as long as Johnson's has. Pehrson has spent 12 seasons at Navy, and none of his 1996 colleagues were still on staff in 2001. Only three of Chan Gailey's assistants — Tenuta, Joe D'Alessandris and Curtis Modkins — were with him all six seasons at Tech.
Starting Friday, Tech's assistants could once again answer questions about the direction of the football program. Johnson isn't likely to leave them guessing about anything for very long.
"He's very organized and has a definite plan," Pehrson said. "He knows what he wants, and he doesn't accept anything less than that. He's going to tell you exactly what he wants. There's no guessing."
More on ajc.com

Some are worried about how this impacts recruiting here is another tidbit. "Contact period through Dec. 15, which is Saturday. Quiet period on Sunday. Dead period from Sunday through Jan. 3."

carolinafan81
12-11-2007, 03:22 PM
yea foster would be great but i really think it goin be herring

Will4144
12-11-2007, 03:23 PM
yea foster would be great but i really think it goin be herring

Reggie Herring is in the running for Arkansas' HC job. I don't think he'd be too interested in us as long as he's in the running...

Love Boat Captain
12-11-2007, 03:33 PM
Reggie Herring is in the running for Arkansas' HC job. I don't think he'd be too interested in us as long as he's in the running...

I don't believe he is in the running for that job. Broyles wants a coach with head coaching experience. At the rate he's going he may not get a good one but that still leaves Reggie out in the cold.

smoovecock
12-11-2007, 03:35 PM
Look for Steele from Bammer to get a look...

happygilmore527
12-11-2007, 03:41 PM
Steele would definitely be interesting..

COCKROCK
12-11-2007, 03:50 PM
Bud Foster would be awesome......

I'm a little puzzled why his named is not mentioned more for head coaching positions especially with all the vacancies.

sccock4life
12-11-2007, 03:56 PM
The only ones I can think of so far that I would like to see here is:
John Tenuda
Brian VanGorder
Reggie Herring

River City Cock
12-11-2007, 04:00 PM
Al Borges resigned as the DC at Alburn this morning. He would be an excellent choice as our DC.

crowcutta
12-11-2007, 04:04 PM
al borges is an offensive coordinator if im not mistaken. the only way i foresee a possibility of tenuda coming here is if he is promised to succeed spurrier and im not sure how old he is to where waiting a few years for a hc job is likely plus spurrier probably would want his sos jr to have first crack at that job

theuscerock
12-11-2007, 04:08 PM
there should be a long line of people here who questioned the calls everyweek who think they are qualified for the position...

CockyDad25
12-11-2007, 04:17 PM
The talk in Atlanta is that Tenuda has kids in school here, and that will obvoiusly affect his choice. The rumors are that he will go with Les Miles either to Michigan or LSU. Tenuda coming to USC would be one HUGE move, but its a long shot. He game plans as well as anyone in college football.

I like the Bud Foster idea, but I sure haven't heard his name mentioned for any new jobs.

USCocks3
12-11-2007, 04:22 PM
The talk in Atlanta is that Tenuda has kids in school here, and that will obvoiusly affect his choice. The rumors are that he will go with Les Miles either to Michigan or LSU. Tenuda coming to USC would be one HUGE move, but its a long shot. He game plans as well as anyone in college football.

I like the Bud Foster idea, but I sure haven't heard his name mentioned for any new jobs.

Well how does his having kids in school in ATL affect his choice if he's probably going to go with Miles to Mich or LSU?

FeartheSpur
12-11-2007, 04:26 PM
Al Borges resigned as the DC at Alburn this morning. He would be an excellent choice as our DC.

Will Muschamp is the DC

FeartheSpur
12-11-2007, 04:28 PM
FOster would be great

CaptainCrunch
12-11-2007, 04:34 PM
i highly doubt bud foster would leave VT, but man wouldn't that be sweet

Gamecock_KC
12-11-2007, 04:34 PM
Why would Bud Foster leave VT for a lateral move?? Sorry, prolly not gonna happen!!

CockyDad25
12-11-2007, 04:38 PM
Well how does his having kids in school in ATL affect his choice if he's probably going to go with Miles to Mich or LSU?

Sorry for the double-talk. I was making 2 points independent of each other. He has at least 1 child in HS in the Atlanta area, so staying at Tech could be attractive.

Were he to go somewhere, the rumors are that he would hitch his star to Les Miles now that Pellini is at Nebraska.

FoghornLeghornCock
12-11-2007, 04:39 PM
I posted an article in the Locker Room from the Washington Post saying Bud Foster thinks he is ready to be a head coach he won't leave VA Tech to be a defensive coordiantor it won't happen.

gamecocknva
12-11-2007, 04:43 PM
I would love to have Foster just to rub it in all the cHokies faces, but I still think Beamer has him brain washed that they will win a NC soon and then he will step down and let Foster take over. I give it less than a 5% chance he would come to USC.

Freehawk
12-11-2007, 05:03 PM
I'd like to throw out a few names:

William Perry

Mike Ditka

Brian Bosworth

Howie Long

Kaipo-Noa Kaheaku-Enhada

and his brother

Waipo-Whoa Waheaku-Enhada

deenerbug
12-11-2007, 05:07 PM
I'd like to throw out a few names:

William Perry

Mike Ditka

Brian Bosworth

Howie Long

Kaipo-Noa Kaheaku-Enhada

and his brother

Waipo-Whoa Waheaku-Enhada

:rotfl:

How about the cute high school coach from Friday Night Lights?

jackdanielsgamecock
12-11-2007, 05:07 PM
How bout RON ENGLISH from Michigan...

CofC07
12-11-2007, 05:10 PM
I think the best choice out there..althought itll probably never happen is Auburns DC, Will Muschamp. He is young, intelligent, VERY passionate and his defense is always stellar!

gamecocknva
12-11-2007, 05:36 PM
I'd like to throw out a few names:

William Perry

Mike Ditka

Brian Bosworth

Howie Long

Kaipo-Noa Kaheaku-Enhada

and his brother

Waipo-Whoa Waheaku-Enhada

You forgot Buddy Ryan (still alive?). I think Howie would be my choice. He could co-host the SOS show on Sundays. I think he has some experience on tv too.

USCMusicMan
12-11-2007, 05:59 PM
Does Spurrier have any previous connections with any of the mentioned coaches?

I think that Tenuta would be a great defensive coach (and the fact that he'll probably be able to recruit georgia). He knows we'll be able to get the offense in line, and if we can get the defense in line, then we have a SECCG caliber team. The SEC is known for defense, so if he can get to the top, then he would be considered part of the "elite." In a way, it is a step up being in the SEC and he gets to stay near his kids. We already have a ton of potential playmakers on D...Its a win-win for him, Come on down Tenuta!

Lamont Cranston
12-11-2007, 06:23 PM
sure would be nice to have charlie strong back

A joke, right?:rotfl:

LegalCock
12-11-2007, 06:31 PM
I think the best choice out there..althought itll probably never happen is Auburns DC, Will Muschamp. He is young, intelligent, VERY passionate and his defense is always stellar!

Didn't he just take a head coaching gig? If not he's sure to get one soon.

Click
12-11-2007, 06:45 PM
A joke, right?:rotfl:


I remember Strong's defenses being solid while he was here. In fact, I would say that he was the best DC we've had since Joe Lee Dunn left. If you know anybody better please tell me.. I'm anxious to see who you can come up with.

dbcocksfan550
12-11-2007, 06:46 PM
Tenuda!!! please!! or Kevin steele from Bama. My dream would be Bud Foster from VT but i know that isnt happening.

rock23aj
12-11-2007, 06:57 PM
dom capers

COCKROCK
12-11-2007, 07:01 PM
I remember Strong's defenses being solid while he was here. In fact, I would say that he was the best DC we've had since Joe Lee Dunn left. If you know anybody better please tell me.. I'm anxious to see who you can come up with.

I agree that Strong was a awesome DC, but I doubt he would come back... Bud Foster would be the ultimate DC we could possibly get, but the odds of us getting him would be staggering.

foezopen
12-11-2007, 07:03 PM
dom capers


Not a bad idea.....although I was thinking of another former Steeler coach!!! Iron Jaw COWHER would be a great pickup and would bring some Star power to our recruiting!!!!


:woo: :woo: :woo: :woo: :woo: :woo: :woo: :woo: :woo:

cocksock
12-11-2007, 07:03 PM
just heard petrino just resigned and will be head coach at ar-kansas,
that leaves muschamp or hoke:angrycoc:

Click
12-11-2007, 07:06 PM
I agree that Strong was a awesome DC, but I doubt he would come back... Bud Foster would be the ultimate DC we could possibly get, but the odds of us getting him would be staggering.


I agree, don't see Strong coming back. Bud Foster's not coming either. Please SOS, just find somebody who believes in AGRESSIVE defense, please........ I'm so tired of our defense sitting back and waiting to see what the other team's offense is gonna do. Attack Attack Attack and set the tone for change.... PLEASE

Cigaro
12-11-2007, 07:16 PM
How bout RON ENGLISH from Michigan...

Are you crazy? His defense can't stop the spread offense ran by athletic quarterbacks(App St, Oregon), which just happens to be what the SEC is growing more and more towards. Let him stay up there.

Cigaro
12-11-2007, 07:16 PM
I'm still going with Ed Orgeron or Cincys DC.