View Full Version : Odom stepping down today
JoeMorrison
01-17-2008, 07:42 PM
Sorry if this is untrue, but apparently this is the scuttlebut.
65-38-4?
01-17-2008, 07:43 PM
where did you hear this
PhillyCock
01-17-2008, 07:44 PM
rivals.com is reporting it in the message board..."reliable sources"
JoeMorrison
01-17-2008, 07:44 PM
Several "insider" reports.
65-38-4?
01-17-2008, 07:45 PM
wow who would coach the team from here
JoeMorrison
01-17-2008, 07:46 PM
I imagine an assistant would have to step up at this point.
cboom4250
01-17-2008, 07:46 PM
i don't see this happening. as much as i agree there needs to be a change, i'm not sure what good it would do in the middle of the season...
and DO doesn't seem like the kind of guy to just walk out.
PhillyCock
01-17-2008, 07:47 PM
rivals says he will finish out the season..just announce tomorrow...
JoeMorrison
01-17-2008, 07:47 PM
Maybe he feels as if he's completely lost all respect from the team. If so, why force it the entire season and make everyone completely miserable.
cboom4250
01-17-2008, 07:47 PM
rivals says he will finish out the season..just announce tomorrow...
oooh...that makes a lot more sense... the thread title made it seem like he was leaving tomorrow...
KCSuge
01-17-2008, 07:52 PM
rivals says he will finish out the season..just announce tomorrow...
This is the best for the program. If this story is true then Odom knows it is for the best also with the way this thing has been going a few years.
JoeMorrison
01-17-2008, 07:53 PM
Even though he may not be our ideal coach, you have to admit that the man has class and has given his all for USC.
diehardgamecock
01-17-2008, 07:54 PM
rivals says he will finish out the season..just announce tomorrow...
we can only hope this is true...
obviously, he no longer needs to be the head coach at usc (after this season) and he appears to have lost this team somewhere along the way....no question he's lost the fans.
maybe if he does announce his retirement, the team can quit worrying about the fans hating dave odom, quit worrying about playing to save his job, quit worrying about any other distractions and just play ball. maybe, just maybe, they can actually rally together and have a decent season (ncaa).
JoeMorrison
01-17-2008, 07:56 PM
we can only hope this is true...
obviously, he no longer needs to be the head coach at usc (after this season) and he appears to have lost this team somewhere along the way....no question he's lost the fans.
maybe if he does announce his retirement, the team can quit worrying about the fans hating dave odom, quit worrying about playing to save his job, quit worrying about any other distractions and just play ball. maybe, just maybe, they can actually rally together and have a decent season (ncaa).
Exactly the reason why this needs to happen. Great post!
diehardgamecock
01-17-2008, 07:58 PM
Exactly the reason why this needs to happen. Great post!
thanks.
to be honest though, i'll believe this story when i see it happen.....for now, it's just a rumor as far as i'm concerned.
PhillyCock
01-17-2008, 08:00 PM
well his radio show is on now 1075thegame.com
CoverTwo
01-17-2008, 08:15 PM
This is long overdue.
Question..do we still owe him the 300k?
Oh, and I heard we are going to have a sweet package to offer Anthony Grant..
Singaporecock
01-17-2008, 08:15 PM
please someone let me know this is fact....I'm ready to do the happy dance!!!
Click
01-17-2008, 08:18 PM
I'll be surprised if its true.
KCSuge
01-17-2008, 08:19 PM
please someone let me know this is fact....I'm ready to do the happy dance!!!
If it is true I'll sing the HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY! HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY! song running buck neked through Duncan.
orlandogamecock
01-17-2008, 08:20 PM
Coach O sounding kinda hoarse tonight.
CockyChrisCox
01-17-2008, 08:25 PM
i'm also curious to know about the 300K. if he is technically retiring (albeit we probably pushed him out) that means we wouldn't owe it.
Click
01-17-2008, 08:28 PM
If it is true I'll sing the HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY! HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY! song running buck neked through Duncan.
Glad I don't live in Duncan!!
:rotfl:
CarolinaBand
01-17-2008, 08:29 PM
He's a classy guy for steping down. He knows he's lost the fans so steping down is the right move for him.
btw Chris, Great article on the 97 team the other day.
Blake
01-17-2008, 08:31 PM
Thanks Dave for your effort.
The Yancey
01-17-2008, 08:34 PM
I read the Rivals thread. Just more "I have a friend with inside knowledge and he said" kinda thing. No sources quotes. This is then posted on another site. The first site then reports that the rumors have been "substantiated" by another board. sometimes these things luckily pan out. More often than not they are just more of the baseless rumors that we see posted every day.
Click
01-17-2008, 08:36 PM
I read the Rivals thread. Just more "I have a friend with inside knowledge and he said" kinda thing. No sources quotes. This is then posted on another site. The first site then reports that the rumors have been "substantiated" by another board. sometimes these things luckily pan out. More often than not they are just more of the baseless rumors that we see posted every day.
Good post. Like I said I'll be surprised if its true. There's so many people on the net with "inside info" its gotten to be pretty much a joke.
I don't believe most stuff on the boards unless I hear it on my own and I don't have a source, or a source to a source, or a source to a source with a source of their own.
If it happens, the timing would be right, following an unexpected win, in a most troubling year.
Singaporecock
01-17-2008, 08:46 PM
someone should change the title of this thread as it is just plain mean!!! If this turns out to somehow be true, I'll streak thru the streets of Singapore like Will Ferrel...keep in mind this is the city/state that canes people for jaywalking and where gum is illegal!
orlandogamecock
01-17-2008, 08:47 PM
MAN! Russell from Rock Hill just called in and spoke about what everyone has been thinking!
IBleedGarnetandBlack
01-17-2008, 08:50 PM
MAN! Russell from Rock Hill just called in and spoke about what everyone has been thinking!
and?
Wazir
01-17-2008, 08:52 PM
It's past time!
orlandogamecock
01-17-2008, 08:52 PM
He commented that the reason the Center has been lacking of fans is because the product is nothing to get excited about! He also said that it's ultimately the coach's fault! He has failed in recruiting a big man and that Odom should do everyone a favor and just step down!
IBleedGarnetandBlack
01-17-2008, 08:55 PM
He commented that the reason the Center has been lacking of fans is because the product is nothing to get excited about! He also said that it's ultimately the coach's fault! He has failed in recruiting a big man and that Odom should do everyone a favor and just step down!
I should go to Rock Hill and buy Russell a beer :lol:
garnet4ever
01-17-2008, 09:11 PM
I just heard this myself and not from a board ...
uscfan79
01-17-2008, 09:17 PM
He commented that the reason the Center has been lacking of fans is because the product is nothing to get excited about! He also said that it's ultimately the coach's fault! He has failed in recruiting a big man and that Odom should do everyone a favor and just step down!Did Odom say anything back?
pimpingamecock
01-17-2008, 09:19 PM
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7738643
Odom: Internet rumors false, he's not retiring as coach
COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - Dave Odom's not going anywhere.
Internet rumors surfaced at around 7:00pm Thursday saying the University of South Carolina men's basketball coach would retire in the near future.
But apparently Odom hadn't heard the rumor. WIS Sports talked to the coach, in his seventh year at USC, after his post-game show.
Odom just laughed at the question, and told WIS the rumors are false.
pimpingamecock
01-17-2008, 09:21 PM
Posted this in another thread, but posting it again so people can see...
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7738643
Odom: Internet rumors false, he's not retiring as coach
COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - Dave Odom's not going anywhere.
Internet rumors surfaced at around 7:00pm Thursday saying the University of South Carolina men's basketball coach would retire in the near future.
But apparently Odom hadn't heard the rumor. WIS Sports talked to the coach, in his seventh year at USC, after his post-game show.
Odom just laughed at the question, and told WIS the rumors are false.
gAmkok
01-17-2008, 09:21 PM
He commented that the reason the Center has been lacking of fans is because the product is nothing to get excited about! He also said that it's ultimately the coach's fault! He has failed in recruiting a big man and that Odom should do everyone a favor and just step down!
If he said that to the coach on his own show then Russell from Rock Hill is just a mean jerk, not some kind of hero. There's no call for that. It's one thing to frankly speak your mind around your friends (and internet message board buddies), but to berate and chastise a man to (essentially) his face when that man does not answer to and is not accountable to you personally, that's low class and exceedingly disrespectful. Like him or not, Dave Odom has spent the last seven years of his life trying to be the best Gamecock basketball coach he can be. It's fairly obvious how that's worked out so far and I'm sure Odom isn't proud of his record (especially in-conference) here. There's no need to kick a man while he's down. Any jerk who would do so doesn't deserve the garnet and black.
CaptainCrunch
01-17-2008, 09:25 PM
good find
gAmkok
01-17-2008, 09:27 PM
http://cranialcavity.net/fullthrottle/wp/wp-images/doh.jpg
evilpoptart
01-17-2008, 09:28 PM
drats.
KCSuge
01-17-2008, 09:30 PM
Sum Beech!
CoverTwo
01-17-2008, 09:32 PM
Didnt he tell Wake fans he was staying there right before he left to come here?
Just sayin.
IBleedGarnetandBlack
01-17-2008, 09:38 PM
um ESPN just said something about it and said sources say it's still on.
CoverTwo
01-17-2008, 09:38 PM
Andy Katz just reported the news.
I guess no one told ESPN that the rumors are "false"
evilpoptart
01-17-2008, 09:38 PM
so ESPN just reported during a Vandy/Tenn break that he will be announcing his retirment.
SidneyRice4Pres
01-17-2008, 09:38 PM
per ESPN during Vandy Tenn game, reported that DO is retiring
IBleedGarnetandBlack
01-17-2008, 09:39 PM
or maybe Odom laughed about it since he hasn't met with the players as ESPN said he would do tomorrow.
gococks3111
01-17-2008, 09:39 PM
They just talked about it on the Vandy vs. Tenn. game on ESPN. They said it will be announced tomorrow that Dave Odom will step down as the USC coach..
snoopcockycock
01-17-2008, 09:40 PM
JUST HEARD IT LIVE ON ESPN. DAVE ODOM WILL RETIRE AT THE END OF THE SEASON!!! THAT'S GREAT NEWS!! MAYBE WE CAN GET A YOUNG HOT COACH IN HERE AND REALLY GET THESE KIDS GOING.
SidneyRice4Pres
01-17-2008, 09:41 PM
ESPN reported that DO is retiring tomorrow during the UT-Vandy game
gAmkok
01-17-2008, 09:41 PM
Check out the Fowl Shots forum. There are already a couple threads.
SpurInCola
01-17-2008, 09:42 PM
He said that Dave Odom will announce Friday that he is retiring after this season. He quotes sources.......just said it during Tenn vs Vandy game!!
CoverTwo
01-17-2008, 09:43 PM
Already some threads about this.
usc90grad
01-17-2008, 09:43 PM
Article from Charleston paper confirming story (sorry if this has already been posted)
http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/jan/17/report_odom_set_announce_retirement_after_seasons_/
uscsweig
01-17-2008, 09:45 PM
Im stepping down from my 8am MWF class tomorrow. This is not a rumor, I just can't get up that early in my last semester. Seeing as it is a full class I wish whoever takes my place the best of luck. Thank you.
usc90grad
01-17-2008, 09:46 PM
I think we need a new coach, but this is a TERRIBLE move to announce your retirement in the middle of the season. I understand he's probably going to coach the rest of the year, but this KILLS you in recruiting since everyone knows you are a lame duck.
Bad, bad decision in my opinion.
hardcock2
01-17-2008, 09:46 PM
just heard it also...:thumbsup:
CoverTwo
01-17-2008, 09:47 PM
I think we need a new coach, but this is a TERRIBLE move to announce your retirement in the middle of the season. I understand he's probably going to coach the rest of the year, but this KILLS you in recruiting since everyone knows you are a lame duck.
Bad, bad decision in my opinion.
What recruiting? We are only bringing in 1 prospect.
uscsweig
01-17-2008, 09:48 PM
BUT SERIOUSLY, ESPN JUST SAID THAT ODOM IS RETIRING AT THE END OF THE SEASON
AtlGAMECOCK
01-17-2008, 09:48 PM
If it is true he just needs to go and let an interim coach step in for the time being.If he stays to finish out the season it won't be good.
usc90grad
01-17-2008, 09:48 PM
What recruiting? We are only bringing in 1 prospect.
That's one more than we're going to get now.
The only way Hyman & Company can save face is if they announce a new coach immediately.
CoverTwo
01-17-2008, 09:50 PM
That's one more than we're going to get now.
The only way Hyman gave save face is if he announces a new coach immediately.
I dont really see the difference..This has no effect on our current class because we only had 1 schollie to give..This is pretty much the start of a rebuilding process and the new coach is basically going to revamp the team with his type of player..Plus, the team is probably going to play more loose the rest of the year.
orlandogamecock
01-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Not to add fuel to the fire, but could this another "Saban" denial?
spurrierismyhomeboy
01-17-2008, 09:51 PM
That's one more than we're going to get now.
The only way Hyman & Company can save face is if they announce a new coach immediately.Actually its a good call by Odom, we can start putting out feelers for a new coach, and since Odom is resigning and not being fired coaches will be more intrested in the call. And our recruiting cant get any worse man!!! Hey Anthony Grant, Hymans on the other line!!!!
snoopcockycock
01-17-2008, 09:52 PM
sorry 90, but i have to disagree. the prospect of us having a new young coach, can only help us in recruiting. odom hasn't exactly been lighting it up on the recruiting trails. announcing now, will give us time to find a new coach early. than can only help our cause. that will also allow us to get a jump on any other program that might have an openning at the end of the season. this is great news!
CoverTwo
01-17-2008, 09:56 PM
Hyman better hit a homerun with his first BIG hire of his tenure here or he could be out the door too.
orlandogamecock
01-17-2008, 09:56 PM
One thing for sure, this story has grown some legs.
CoverTwo
01-17-2008, 09:59 PM
One thing for sure, this story has grown some legs.
Tony Morrell at GCN said the Administration has cut the deal and the coaching search starts immediately..Odom has the option when to announce his resignation..
cocknblue
01-17-2008, 10:11 PM
WE need to hire an Oliver Purnell-type coach (successful mid major coach who's ready to move up).
We DO NOT need to hire an unproven assistant. We need someone with a proven track record, not someone who's going to learn how to be a head coach on our dime.
happygilmore527
01-17-2008, 10:11 PM
I imagine an announcement on a new coach won't come till at least mid-March. That's not to say we won't have our man by then but with teams still midway through their seasons you would have to think nothing comes out anytime soon.
He's seems to be annoucning tomorrow. No time set for the press conference according to USC sports information.
COCKYTALKIN
01-17-2008, 10:13 PM
I hate that it didn't work out for Coach Odom he seems like a great man!! If this is true, good luck to you Coach!!
happygilmore527
01-17-2008, 10:13 PM
WE need to hire an Oliver Purnell-type coach (successful mid major coach who's ready to move up).
We DO NOT need to hire an unproven assistant. We need someone with a proven track record, not someone who's going to learn how to be a head coach on our dime.
I definitely think this is the route we go.
Singaporecock
01-17-2008, 10:16 PM
happy happy joy joy...doing the happy dance
If ya'll dont hear from me for a while, its because I'm recovering from the cane they hit me with since I was arrested for streaking down orchard road this weekend!
The Yancey
01-17-2008, 10:18 PM
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7738643
Odom: Internet rumors false, he's not retiring as coach
COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - Dave Odom's not going anywhere.
Internet rumors surfaced at around 7:00pm Thursday saying the University of South Carolina men's basketball coach would retire in the near future.
But apparently Odom hadn't heard the rumor. WIS Sports talked to the coach, in his seventh year at USC, after his post-game show.
Odom just laughed at the question, and told WIS the rumors are false.
Posted by Logan Smith (LoganJSmith@wistv.com)
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happygilmore527
01-17-2008, 10:22 PM
from espn.com front page
Updated: January 17, 2008, 9:05 PM ET
Comment (http://myespn.go.com/conversation/story?id=3201864)
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South Carolina men's basketball coach Dave Odom is expected to announce on Friday his retirement from college basketball, multiple sources told ESPN's Andy Katz on Thursday.
Odom, who reached the 400-win mark in early January, will retire effective at the end of the season. He has coached at East Carolina, Wake Forest and South Carolina, where he is 123-91 in seven seasons.
Will4144
01-17-2008, 10:35 PM
Peace, Dave.
cocky2007
01-17-2008, 10:35 PM
I guess local media are probably more trustworthy than the national media in this kind of situation.
CoverTwo
01-17-2008, 10:40 PM
I guess local media are probably more trustworthy than the national media in this kind of situation.
I think the cat got out of the bag earlier than expected.
cocky2007
01-17-2008, 10:43 PM
I think the cat got out of the bag earlier than expected.
Probably. He'll almost definitely be gone at the end of the season regardless if he announces tomorrow or not.
Forkcock
01-17-2008, 10:48 PM
Tune in at halftime of the Indiana/MN game on ESPN.
USCfanlivingnKY
01-17-2008, 10:55 PM
THIS WAS JUST REPORTED ON ESPN HALFTIME SHOW.....
KCSuge
01-17-2008, 10:56 PM
Said is retiring.
KCSuge
01-17-2008, 10:57 PM
Gave his coaching resume and said what an underrated recruiter he is/was. What? Overrated is more like it. Did anyone notice that?
psychwr2
01-17-2008, 10:58 PM
he'll step down at the end of the season if at all.
Dr. Gonzo
01-17-2008, 10:59 PM
WE need to hire an Oliver Purnell-type coach (successful mid major coach who's ready to move up).
We DO NOT need to hire an unproven assistant. We need someone with a proven track record, not someone who's going to learn how to be a head coach on our dime. Bingo. Great post.:clap:
Gamecock_KC
01-17-2008, 11:04 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3201864
eklypised
01-17-2008, 11:06 PM
yeah I just read this...
diehardgamecock
01-17-2008, 11:07 PM
Gave his coaching resume and said what an underrated recruiter he is/was. What? Overrated is more like it. Did anyone notice that?
just goes to show, once again, that the media (and other coaches) will not sh!t on an old dog like odom.
still amazes me that some of our fans use that type of stuff as a defense for mr. teflon....kinda funny, actually.
Gamecock_Aholic
01-17-2008, 11:12 PM
so, someone clarify for me. is he stepping down tomorrow?
ucan'tlickourcocks
01-17-2008, 11:17 PM
I personally don't feel "happy" about this scenario. DO is a great man, and a great coach. Like family to me..... and I never like bad things to happen to my family.
Best of luck DO in your retirement, I hope that your accomplishments are not overshadowed by your failures.
Say what you want, Dave Odom is a class act!
diehardgamecock
01-17-2008, 11:19 PM
Say what you want, Dave Odom is a class act!
he sure is.
now what was this nonsense about "accomplishments"???
gAmkok
01-17-2008, 11:23 PM
I personally don't feel "happy" about this scenario. DO is a great man, and a great coach. Like family to me..... and I never like bad things to happen to my family.
Best of luck DO in your retirement, I hope that your accomplishments are not overshadowed by your failures.
Say what you want, Dave Odom is a class act!
Retirement is not a bad thing. Heck, if I had the $ Dave's got, I'd announce my retirement tomorrow too - and I'm 20+ years younger than he is! I envy him. The realization that you can live comfortably without having to rely on a paycheck, and then the decision to take a permanent vacation, is something to celebrate, not feel sorry for.
jaytda4th
01-17-2008, 11:25 PM
well the state had said it was untrue.. here it is folks.. he really is.
Sources: Odom to step down
The State
Published: January 17, 2008
South Carolina men's basketball coach Dave Odom will announce Friday that he will step down at the end of this season, three sources close to the team confirmed Thursday night.
The sources add that players were told the news around 9:30 p.m. on Thursday.
Asked about the reports after his radio show, Odom walked away.
“You’ve gotta do what you’ve gotta do,” he twice told a reporter from The State.
cocky2007
01-17-2008, 11:25 PM
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7738643
Odom scoffs at rumors of retirement, sources say otherwise
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COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - When asked about rumors of retirement, Dave Odom scoffed and walked away from reporters staking out his Thursday night call-in show.
But now, several sources and media outlets across the state are reporting that Odom is set to announce his retirement soon.
A source very close to the situation tells WIS the players were told this evening that Odom will announce his retirement in the very near future.
ballcock
01-17-2008, 11:27 PM
we should have hired Bobby Knight instead of his dead ass 7 years ago!!! One player at wake made his sorry ass ,and we were dumb enough to hire his sorry ass!!!! IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!!!!
diehardgamecock
01-17-2008, 11:28 PM
well the state had said it was untrue.. here it is folks.. he really is.
Sources: Odom to step down
The State
Published: January 17, 2008
South Carolina men's basketball coach Dave Odom will announce Friday that he will step down at the end of this season, three sources close to the team confirmed Thursday night.
The sources add that players were told the news around 9:30 p.m. on Thursday.
Asked about the reports after his radio show, Odom walked away.
“You’ve gotta do what you’ve gotta do,” he twice told a reporter from The State.
good news.
i wish coach odom the best in retirement and will always be thankful to him for helping to bridge the gap between the university and the mcguire years...
now, let's hope hyman can put together a knockout hire.
roosterrizk1
01-17-2008, 11:29 PM
If its true Anthony Grant is our man I think thats great. I would love to have a young African American Coach to lead our Program. This would be awesome.
diehardgamecock
01-17-2008, 11:29 PM
we should have hired Bobby Knight instead of his dead ass 7 years ago!!! One player at wake made his sorry ass ,and we were dumb enough to hire his sorry ass!!!! IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!!!!
jeez, dude.....calm down.
Forkcock
01-17-2008, 11:29 PM
we should have hired Bobby Knight instead of his dead ass 7 years ago!!! One player at wake made his sorry ass ,and we were dumb enough to hire his sorry ass!!!! IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!!!!
That's cold dude. Odom didn't work out and I'm glad he's leaving but he is a very good man.
orlandogamecock
01-17-2008, 11:31 PM
Ignore...already been posted.
diehardgamecock
01-17-2008, 11:33 PM
That's cold dude. Odom didn't work out and I'm glad he's leaving but he is a very good man.
yeah....i don't know where that crap came from.
MACXIMVS
01-17-2008, 11:34 PM
good guy but time to go !
Rooster3233
01-17-2008, 11:35 PM
That's cold dude. Odom didn't work out and I'm glad he's leaving but he is a very good man.
I'll second that...no need for Gamecock fans to run him into the ground...he is a good person and coach. Thanks for the attempt and for the 2 NIT's...not many schools can say that. Thanks Coach Odom.
ballcock
01-17-2008, 11:39 PM
hey it's about time to hire a young coach not a old dead ass like the last 2!!!!!
Forkcock
01-17-2008, 11:41 PM
yeah....i don't know where that crap came from.
Yeah DHG, I can understand those that want DO to leave. I'm one of them but you cannot say anything about this man's character. He has represented himself and our school with nothing but class. It's just a shame that he couldn't win here. Other coaches may be more successful here but no one will represent us better than DO has. I wish Odom well in the future.
gAmkok
01-17-2008, 11:42 PM
we should have hired Bobby Knight instead of his dead ass 7 years ago!!! One player at wake made his sorry ass ,and we were dumb enough to hire his sorry ass!!!! IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!!!!
So angry... Tell us how you really feel!
Listen, Dave Odom might not have been the guy we should have hired, or the guy we would have hired (if we were in charge), but he is the guy we DID hire 7 years ago. Despite the results, he gave it his all, and has been an excellent ambassador and a respected face for the Gamecock's basketball program. The wins didn't come like they should have, but there's no denying that Dave Odom is in every way a professional basketball coach and a decent human being. Questioning his abilities in the face of less than stellar results is one thing, but calling the man names on his way out the door is uncalled for. He has done nothing unethical, illegal, or intentionally harmful to the school or it's basketball program and because of this he deserves the respect of all Gamecock fans as the leader of one of our major sports.
diehardgamecock
01-17-2008, 11:43 PM
hey it's about time to hire a young coach not a old dead ass like the last 2!!!!!
don't act like a douche.
odom wasn't a good coach here. odom didn't succeed here. everybody was ready for him to go.
but there's no need to take a big crap on the guy now and act like a tool in doing so....
diehardgamecock
01-17-2008, 11:46 PM
Yeah DHG, I can understand those that want DO to leave. I'm one of them but you cannot say anything about this man's character. He has represented himself and our school with nothing but class. It's just a shame that he couldn't win here. Other coaches may be more successful here but no one will represent us better than DO has. I wish Odom well in the future.
agreed.
as i've stated countless times, despite what i think of odom as a coach, he's a helluva class act & he's done nothing but represent usc well (except for our abysmal GPA).
and, as i've also said umpteen times, i wish there was a way that he could stay on with the university's athletic dept. in some capacity. i'll forever be greatful to him for what he did to help bridge the gap between usc and the mcguire years...
RudeCock
01-17-2008, 11:52 PM
If he said that to the coach on his own show then Russell from Rock Hill is just a mean jerk, not some kind of hero. There's no call for that. It's one thing to frankly speak your mind around your friends (and internet message board buddies), but to berate and chastise a man to (essentially) his face when that man does not answer to and is not accountable to you personally, that's low class and exceedingly disrespectful. Like him or not, Dave Odom has spent the last seven years of his life trying to be the best Gamecock basketball coach he can be. It's fairly obvious how that's worked out so far and I'm sure Odom isn't proud of his record (especially in-conference) here. There's no need to kick a man while he's down. Any jerk who would do so doesn't deserve the garnet and black.
Our basketball program is down, not Dave's career. He's getting paid good money and not producing and hasn't done so for seven years. He is the head coach, and my philosophy is it all fall on the head coaches shoulders, whether Odom or Spurrier. It's a darn call in show, which, get this, you can call into and voice your opinion. GENIUS! I wish the guy would have called and pumped sunshine up his arse. Poor Dave, he heard what most fans have been thinking and talking about on message boards for months and even a year. Give me $300k and you can anything you want to me, I swear, I'll even cry if it makes you happy.
Thanks for being a nice guy Dave, good luck in all that you strive for.
carolinathru&thru
01-17-2008, 11:55 PM
I hate to say it, but I'm kind of glad that the Odom chapter is coming to end. I have never been an Odom-hater, but I'm kind of tired of all the drama. When it's time for somebody to go, you just know it.
But, Odom is one of the most stand-up individuals working in our Athletic Dept. He's been a great ambassador for USC and is probably one of the nicest college b-ball coaches out there.
Despite what people say, Odom has done some good stuff here at USC. 2003-2004 SEC coach of the year, 2 NIT Championships, and an NCAA berth are nothing to scoff (sp?) at. But, I think he's taken us about as far as we are going to go under him. It's time for a change. I think all of us know it.
Good luck to you Dave....Whatever's next.
CockyChrisCox
01-17-2008, 11:55 PM
Okay Cockytalkers,
I'll be heading to the press conference tomorrow. Look to the Daily Gamecock for all of your Odom/new coach coverage,
Chris
orlandogamecock
01-17-2008, 11:56 PM
Anyone that has been let go from a job, can tell you it goes something like this:
"You're really a great person. You've done some good things. But the numbers are just not there."
Corporate bottom line: The numbers don't lie.
CockRoche
01-18-2008, 12:10 AM
I personally am happy we might be getting a new coach, but I heard the call on the call in show. I thought that was a very low blow by the caller.
87Cock09
01-18-2008, 12:10 AM
He handled this very well. Apparently he is not making us pay him the 300,000 buyout, he signed an agreement so we only have to pay him 50,000 and we can start looking for a new coach immediately. It'd be great if he could stay on with a position in the Athletic department or something. I've heard from friends that had personal interactions with him, that he is a very nice person.
evilpoptart
01-18-2008, 12:13 AM
Id like to continue having him in the atheltic department doing something.
RudeCock
01-18-2008, 12:17 AM
Id like to continue having him in the atheltic department doing something.What would you have him do?
acjuf
01-18-2008, 12:20 AM
Some advice to the South Carolina athletic department.
If you are looking for a good basketball, look alittle north to Virginia Commonwealth and Anthony Grant!
I really believe he is going to be one of the next great young coaches to be taken from a midmajor to a big school, and whoever is wise enough to snatch him up is going to be lucky.
He was Billy Donovan's top assistent, and helped him turn Florida from a mediocre basketball program into a national power. He worked under one of the best coaches in the game, and has a great eye for talent. He was instrumental in pulling in guys like Joakim Noah and Al Horford. He had immediate success in his first year in coaching at VCU. He was Florida's first choice when they thought they needed a replacement for Billy D, after he temporarily left.
If you're looking for a great young coach you can build a program with, you don't have to look any further than Grant.
usc89
01-18-2008, 12:22 AM
When you look at it, Odom left the program in good stead. He accomplished more than Coaches have since McGuire--all we need now is someone who will take the program to the next level (up, that is)--
I, too, think he should be afforded a position in the Athletic Department for the way he has represented Carolina.
hardcock2
01-18-2008, 12:24 AM
Some advice to the South Carolina athletic department.
If you are looking for a good basketball, look alittle north to Virginia Commonwealth and Anthony Grant!
I really believe he is going to be one of the next great young coaches to be taken from a midmajor to a big school, and whoever is wise enough to snatch him up is going to be lucky.
He was Billy Donovan's top assistent, and helped him turn Florida from a mediocre basketball program into a national power. He worked under one of the best coaches in the game, and has a great eye for talent. He was instrumental in pulling in guys like Joakim Noah and Al Horford. He had immediate success in his first year in coaching at VCU. He was Florida's first choice when they thought they needed a replacement for Billy D, after he temporarily left.
If you're looking for a great young coach you can build a program with, you don't have to look any further than Grant.
nice imput....but I think most of us know that. btw, VCU steamrolled Delaware last night.
theuscerock
01-18-2008, 12:25 AM
I can see this can be good and bad for our program....
Good
1. Players try to send Dave out on a good note and finish the season strong after the Ark Win...
2. Could help with recruiting, by seeing there will be new blood and changes
3. Gives us a leg up on finding someone.
Bad
1. Players could not care about the rest of the season
2. Possible Recruits change their minds
spurrierismyhomeboy
01-18-2008, 12:40 AM
I can see this can be good and bad for our program....
Good
1. Players try to send Dave out on a good note and finish the season strong after the Ark Win...
2. Could help with recruiting, by seeing there will be new blood and changes
3. Gives us a leg up on finding someone.
Bad
1. Players could not care about the rest of the season
2. Possible Recruits change their mindsgood points...but I think players will definetly step up, especailly guys like Muldrow and Holmes. Who Dave has been hard on all year, so the players can play worry-free and know a new guy will be coming in knowing he wont be back.
gAmkok
01-18-2008, 12:41 AM
Our basketball program is down, not Dave's career. He's getting paid good money and not producing and hasn't done so for seven years. He is the head coach, and my philosophy is it all fall on the head coaches shoulders, whether Odom or Spurrier. It's a darn call in show, which, get this, you can call into and voice your opinion. GENIUS! I wish the guy would have called and pumped sunshine up his arse. Poor Dave, he heard what most fans have been thinking and talking about on message boards for months and even a year. Give me $300k and you can anything you want to me, I swear, I'll even cry if it makes you happy.
Thanks for being a nice guy Dave, good luck in all that you strive for.
I appreciate the condescension about the call in show. I understand now... The coach gets on the radio to talk about the week, then mindless a-holes call in to insult him. Then more mindless a-holes get to justify it on message boards by pointing out the obvious. GENIUS! If you can't tell the difference between criticism and disrespect then I'm sure you think I'm defending Dave's performance (I assure you I am not). Do I think the caller should have pumped sunshine? Not sure where you got that, but no I don't think that. I do think he would have been better off not calling at all. Just because he said "what most fans have been thinking" what did he gain by saying it to Dave? Do you think he hurt Dave's feelings? I don't, so what was the point of calling?
Oh, maybe implying you are a mindless a-hole was going a little overboard.... Nah, it's justified - I didn't like your performance on that post I quoted.
The Yancey
01-18-2008, 12:42 AM
Wow, hasn't been anything posted about this here at all yet!
:club:
gAmkok
01-18-2008, 12:45 AM
It's a scoop!
Cwrooster
01-18-2008, 12:47 AM
Bud Foster! The defensive Coordinator for VT! It's a done deal!:rotfl:
:woo:
carolinathru&thru
01-18-2008, 12:47 AM
He got excited and didn't think to check.
No harm no.....FOWL. (cheesy? you betcha!)
TheGuitarCock
01-18-2008, 12:47 AM
Bud? Maybe?
One thing this does, by announcing his imminent retirement, is begin to allow the mile wide chasm that has torn Gamecock fans apart on this coaching issue to begin to heal.
We get extra time to look for a coach, put feelers out for potential interest, and let some recruits, perhaps, not immediately ignore us from future recruitment and take a wait and see attitude.
As for the popular Anthony Grant, Mike Morgan said he felt that he would not take the USC job as Grant would have zero interest in coaching against Billy Donovan since they are such close friends. It would be wise to get that straight from the horses mouth, but that relationship may derail that option before it begins.
I just pray that EH does not tap into the UNC family for a hire and take the easy way out. I am uneasy over what or who the first big EH hire will look like.
Cwrooster
01-18-2008, 12:49 AM
Thanks for saving my joke man!
The Yancey
01-18-2008, 12:54 AM
Sorry Brat, but I'm afraid that the division has just begun. There is a very good chance that we will end up with a coach that will make Fig Newton look like Dr. Naismith.
gAmkok
01-18-2008, 12:59 AM
Sorry Brat, but I'm afraid that the division has just begun. There is a very good chance that we will end up with a coach that will make Fig Newton look like Dr. Naismith.
You got some scoop? Dish it bro!
gAmkok
01-18-2008, 01:00 AM
I just pray that EH does not tap into the UNC family for a hire and take the easy way out. I am uneasy over what or who the first big EH hire will look like.
This is a huge concern of mine as well.
BigGeorge
01-18-2008, 01:01 AM
He's a nice guy but.....
nnHksDFHTQI
gAmkok
01-18-2008, 01:03 AM
He's a nice guy but.....
nnHksDFHTQI
Pts for that!
acejrock
01-18-2008, 01:08 AM
i heard he has decide football just wasnt doin it for him anymore and basketball is where his heart is.
BigGeorge
01-18-2008, 01:12 AM
Reminds me of a rumor from last year that Tom Izzo was gonna coach both basketball and football at Michigan St.
hardcock2
01-18-2008, 01:13 AM
hey!....we'd have 25 to 21 basketball scores!...as long as we win.:thumbsup:
CockyStevo
01-18-2008, 01:21 AM
I always liked Dave, no matter how hard of a time he had. Of course, I would have liked to see some more wins. But everyone who's trashing him needs to chill a bit, relax, and think about our future, which (hopefully) will be positive.
Shaleulp
01-18-2008, 01:23 AM
Odom was a bad hire from the beginning. Wake was happy to get rid of him. Glad to see him go. Nicest guy in the world, but worst coach in the SEC, no doubt about it. He single-handedly brought our basketball program to a mid-SEC team to a bottom-SEC team
roosterrizk1
01-18-2008, 01:26 AM
Bud Foster! The defensive Coordinator for VT! It's a done deal!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
BABonzo
01-18-2008, 01:36 AM
IMO Dave Odom came in when we needed a coach and gave us a few 20 plus win seasons. I don't think our program is any worse than it was when he got here. I know that's not really a good thing but it's not the worst thing that could have happened either.
diehardgamecock
01-18-2008, 01:43 AM
He accomplished more than Coaches have since McGuire
hmmm.....
so NIT's > SEC championships?
that doesn't compute...
IBleedGarnetandBlack
01-18-2008, 01:47 AM
Well good news is Odom won't be booed at any more this season I suppose. I'm sure the last SEC home game he will get a standing ovation to say see ya. I guess the student section won't be cheering fire odom now either. I got no reason to go to any more games now since I don't need that bullsh*t priority point mess.
Spur's Addiction
01-18-2008, 01:52 AM
WOW - didn;t expect it so soon.
psychwr2
01-18-2008, 02:54 AM
i think this sorta hit us sooner than we all expected. at least now Hyman won't get bashed for all this anymore. hopefully he'll be praised for bringing in a good coach to follow who knows the value of a 7' tall center.
scnative1
01-18-2008, 04:10 AM
That is freakin' hilarious!
JBC1222
01-18-2008, 04:15 AM
Dave has faced alot of turmoil here and its obvious many fans cant stand him. He obviously has not had the success that we all wish for and to a certain extent expect. But all letdowns aside, Dave Odom is a great human being who deserves our respect. He is as nice a guy as they come and has done alot to improve the relationship between the school and our former players. Regardless of his coaching record, he gave his all for this school and for that we should be thankful. He did nothing but serve as a beacon of character and class while serving as our coach. Certainly I wish the on court results had been better, but I will always be pround of his time here and will always respect him as a man. Whatever he decides to do once his time here is done I wish him nothing but the best and would hope we would welcome him back anytime he so chooses. Thanks Dave.
jasper4president
01-18-2008, 05:23 AM
Odom expected to announce he'll retire at end of season
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South Carolina men's basketball coach Dave Odom is expected to announce on Friday his retirement from college basketball, multiple sources told ESPN's Andy Katz on Thursday.
Odom, who reached the 400-win mark in early January, will retire effective at the end of the season.
The 65-year-old Odom is in his seventh season with the Gamecocks, who made the NCAA tournament once and won two NIT championships since he took over in 2001. He has never finished better than 8-8 in the Southeastern Conference.
Odom coached Wake Forest for 12 years, making seven consecutive NCAA tournament appearances and eight overall. His record is 401-268 in 22 seasons, including three seasons at East Carolina.
South Carolina is 9-8 and coming off its first Southeastern Conference win of the year, a 70-66 victory at Arkansas on Wednesday night.
PyroPepper
01-18-2008, 07:29 AM
Hey, the man is named after 2 beers! He can coach up any sport.
usc90grad
01-18-2008, 07:42 AM
I have a strange feeling that no matter who we get as a coach, that our b-ball program will also be medicore. It's tough to recruit when you're smack dab in the middle of ACC country.
cocknblue
01-18-2008, 08:11 AM
I have a strange feeling that no matter who we get as a coach, that our b-ball program will also be medicore. It's tough to recruit when you're smack dab in the middle of ACC country. It does make it tough, but we certainly can be better than we are now. I think making the NCAAs is a reasonable expectation for our program every year (regardless of what Eddie Fogler thinks).
CayceCock
01-18-2008, 08:22 AM
Finallyhe'll be gone.....We need to get some youth at the B-BallHC position.
Cockdaddy2001
01-18-2008, 08:24 AM
Bye Coach Odom! Here's to a new future for Carolina Basketball
blaze
01-18-2008, 08:53 AM
Personally, I have mixed feelings about this. I have enjoyed having Odom, because he is such a good guy, he has admitted that he was wrong to go the juco route when he got here.
I think it is a good year for us to be shopping for a coach, and I think that this will be a positive change for us. I am thankful that we are the only school shopping for a coach right now.
At what capacity can we employ Odom when he resigns?
FoghornLeghornCock
01-18-2008, 09:18 AM
Odom set to retire
By Travis Haney (http://www.charleston.net/staff/travis_haney/) (Contact (http://www.charleston.net/staff/travis_haney/contact/))
The Post and Courier
Friday, January 18, 2008 http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/jan/18/odom_set_retire27976/
COLUMBIA — South Carolina basketball coach Dave Odom plans to announce, as early as today, that he will retire at the end of the season, according to multiple university and athletic department sources.
Odom, who's faced increasing scrutiny, is in the midst of his seventh season at South Carolina. His Gamecocks (9-8, 1-2 SEC) upset Arkansas on the road Wednesday evening.
Odom, who got his 400th win Jan. 2 against Radford, is 121-93 at USC and 401-268 in 22 overall seasons.
When asked about the news after his weekly call-in show, Odom was short with reporters and didn't offer much of a response.
A news conference has been scheduled for sometime today, but the school has not indicated the gathering's subject. South Carolina is off this weekend before hosting Florida on Wednesday.
Odom planed to meet with the team this morning, ostensibly to share the news.
Messages left Thursday evening with USC's sports information department, one seeking comment from Odom, were not immediately returned.
Shortly after the Jan. 5 home loss to UNC Asheville, sources said members of USC's board talked with Odom about a plan that would allow the 65-year-old coach to step down, on his own, within two to three weeks.
The thinking, sources said, was to allow Odom time to gain a signature-type win that would relieve pressure from the embattled coach and allow him to make the announcement on a positive note. Wednesday's win at Arkansas could have been considered such a victory.
Those critical of Odom point to the fact that, despite winning back-to-back NIT titles, his Gamecocks have been to just one NCAA Tournament. They lost to Memphis in the first round in 2004.
Odom's record in the SEC — now 37-62 — is also tough to swallow for fans. His teams have never been above .500 in conference play, only once going 8-8 in that NCAA season.
Even to the end, sources said Odom still had strong support from several of USC's more influential board members. Those same trustees had helped Odom stay afloat as he received more criticism in recent years.
They were also catalysts in helping Odom, in January 2007, earn a two-year contract extension through the 2009-10 season. The buyout was to be $250,000 for next season and then $50,000 for the final year, but those figures wouldn't apply since Odom is retiring.
Last season, South Carolina went 4-12 in the SEC and was the only team in the league with an overall losing record (14-16).
This year, South Carolina beat Providence on Dec. 6 to get to 5-4 overall entering a two-week break for final exams. But after the Gamecocks' return to the floor, the team often played flat and listless in a five-game homestand that resembled a roller coaster.
They blew a 20-point lead to Baylor in a 92-84 loss, had to rally from 15 down against Charleston, came back from double digits to beat UC Irvine, looked flat against Radford and then lost to UNC Asheville.
At that point, sources said USC's board recognized that, in many ways, Odom had lost the program's fan base. Attendance was dipping inside the Colonial Center and animosity toward the coach was increasing.
The board began to then put the wheels of change in motion, in effect ending Odom's tenure and career, which included previous stops at East Carolina and Wake Forest.
The very beginning stages of a coaching search have already started, sources said. Early names mentioned and being researched are Anthony Grant of Virginia Commonwealth and Wichita State's Gregg Marshall, the former Winthrop coach who is from Greenwood.
Reach Travis Haney at thaney@postandcourier.com.
Reading the tea leaves it would appear the board of trustees is driving the Carolina Bus at this point in time.
Slacker USC
01-18-2008, 09:32 AM
As much as everyone agrees that we needed a change of coach, I must admit a part of me is still sad to see DO go out like this. He's a quality coach, and a very good man, and I hope this team steps up to send him out with a winning record.
Best wishes Dave, for this season and whereever life takes you. We're all sorry you didn't enjoy the success here we'd all hoped for, but you tried and were a great ambassador for the University, and for that I thank you.
FoghornLeghornCock
01-18-2008, 09:40 AM
Posted on Fri, Jan. 18, 2008
Ron Morris | Good man, bad ending
Odom’s integrity should overshadow any shortfalls of his tenure at USC
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NOT MANY COACHING careers end the way they should. Dean Smith went out on his own terms at North Carolina as the all-time leader in collegiate basketball wins. He was the exception. Normally, coaches get fired, or as was the case with South Carolina’s Frank McGuire, get pushed out the door by an unappreciative administration.
Dave Odom’s outstanding coaching career is not ending the way it should. USC attempted to make his exit as graceful as possible. But one of the truly great guys in the business has been told the end is here.
We can only hope Odom gets a grand farewell. Maybe it will come in the form of his team making a strong run through the remainder of the Southeastern Conference season and into the postseason. Maybe it will come in the form of a nice sendoff on every remaining opponent’s home court.
Or, perhaps best of all, it will come in unified support of his last stand from a home base of fans. Despite Odom’s inability to lead USC where those fans want the program to go, he at least deserves a strong nod from them for giving the school his all.
In the end, it did not work at USC. One NCAA tournament appearance and three NITs, including two championships, was not good enough for seven seasons of work.
In retrospect, Odom made two mistakes that cost him. He decided upon arrival at USC the road to success was paved with junior college post players. It backfired in a big way, mostly because few if any of the JUCO big men pan out and also because it prevented Odom from laying a solid foundation for the program.
The second area of Odom’s demise grew out of the first. Almost from the outset, Odom’s teams struggled academically. His teams annually posted the lowest grade point average among USC’s athletic teams. Odom also was slow to pick up on the seriousness of the NCAA’s new APR guidelines that could still cost the program scholarships.
Odom has admitted to bad judgment in going the JUCO route. His late attention to academics, albeit after much pushing from USC’s administration, earned him a three-year contract at the conclusion of this past season.
With that renewed faith in Odom from Eric Hyman, USC’s athletics director, came one caveat: There needed to be a sense of hope for the program established this season.
It never happened. Crowds for home games at the Colonial Center kept dwindling. The number of fans in the stands — not the number of announced tickets sold — fell below 6,000 on many occasions. It may not have been intended that way, but fans a season ago and this season made a strong statement that they no longer were in support of Odom and his program.
Worse still, Odom’s talented players have not molded as a team. It become increasingly evident as the season wore on that this USC team does not play sound defense. That is the surest sign that Odom’s message is not getting across to his team.
Many fans will remember USC’s 61-58 loss to UNC Asheville on Jan. 5 as the final blow to Odom’s standing. But it was not just the loss to a mid-level conference team that hurt, it was the manner in which USC lost. Forget poor decisions on offense, bad passes and lost balls out of bounds in the final minutes. Worse was UNC Asheville’s ability to score seemingly at will against a USC defense that did not seem to care.
Earlier in the game, two USC defenders near the basket backed away as a UNC Asheville guard drove for an uncontested layup. I have watched Odom teams since his days as a young head coach at East Carolina and do not ever recall one that took such a laissez-faire approach to defense.
There are critics of Odom who claim his only success as a college coach was the result of finding the ultimate diamond in the rough when Tim Duncan played for him at Wake Forest. Those folks know not of what they speak.
Odom has long been one of the most respected coaches in the land by his peers. They recognized that a game against an Odom-coached team meant engaging in an organized fistfight. His teams’ trademark was hard-nose basketball predicated on playing in-your-face defense.
You do not earn ACC coach of the year honors three times and the same recognition once in the SEC without being one heck of a basketball coach. Duncan played four seasons at Wake Forest, yet Odom guided his teams there to eight NCAA tournaments and one NIT championship.
Granted, he did not enjoy the same success at USC, but his team’s two victories against eventual national champion Florida and run to the SEC tournament championship game in 2006 represented Odom at his best. He conducted a coaching clinic during that tournament in Nashville, and fell one errant shot at the end from winning the thing.
Beyond the Xs and Os, Odom has been a tremendous ambassador for USC and for college basketball. His programs at East Carolina, Wake Forest and USC have never sniffed NCAA probation. His tremendous love for the game translated into a respect for it that he demanded and received from his players.
A better guy you will never meet in the coaching profession. It is too bad that it probably will not end any better for Odom. But that rarely happens in coaching. There are not many John Woodens, who retired after coaching his 1975 UCLA team to the national championship.
Here’s hoping for all the best to Odom and his team during his final season on the sideline. He deserves that.
ShutTheSuccop
01-18-2008, 09:41 AM
Best wishes to DO...he did things with class, it just did not work here. It is unfortunate because he really seems to be a good guy! Good luck to you DO!
Snake
01-18-2008, 09:41 AM
I have always had respect for Coach Odom.......he runs a clean program and is a great ambassador to our University....he just couldn't get us over the hump in the SEC.
I give him credit for trying to unite the Past to the Current in terms of USC Basketball celebrating 100 years.
I have even more respect for him now that he is stepping down at this point in the season rather than dragging it on for the rest of the season and taking the pressure off of himself and the players.
Hopefully, this will be a rally point for our players in hopes that they will send him out on a good note and start building for the future seeing that we have such a young team.
:wink:
BigGeorge
01-18-2008, 09:46 AM
^^^^^
Great post Snake!
Slacker USC
01-18-2008, 09:53 AM
I have always had respect for Coach Odom.......he runs a clean program and is a great ambassador to our University....he just couldn't get us over the hump in the SEC.
I give him credit for trying to unite the Past to the Current in terms of USC Basketball celebrating 100 years.
I have even more respect for him now that he is stepping down at this point in the season rather than dragging it on for the rest of the season and taking the pressure off of himself and the players.
Hopefully, this will be a rally point for our players in hopes that they will send him out on a good note and start building for the future seeing that we have such a young team.
:wink:
Great post Snake. I don't think DO gets enough credit for trying to mend fences with all our former players. I'd like to see him stay on the AD staff somehow and continue his work with that. Perhaps we could use someone to keep contact with our former athletes in all sports, keep them involved with the school and their programs.
RunNGun07
01-18-2008, 09:57 AM
Great post Snake. I don't think DO gets enough credit for trying to mend fences with all our former players. I'd like to see him stay on the AD staff somehow and continue his work with that. Perhaps we could use someone to keep contact with our former athletes in all sports, keep them involved with the school and their programs.
I was thinking the same thing. They should give him a job inside the athletic department. He's a great ambassador for the University and does things the right way.
As for possible replacements, I think Anthony Grant has to be #1.
USC-Hokie
01-18-2008, 10:01 AM
I want anthony grant
Mecklenburg Cock
01-18-2008, 10:02 AM
I've always really liked DO and have a lot of respect for him. Personally, I've been looking for a change at the coaching position so I'm excited about the possibilities. That being said I'd love to see DO remain a part of USC Athletics and the USC family. Whether I'm crazy about his coaching style or not, he remains a classy individual and a great ambassador. I'm glad he gets to go out on his own terms.
ShutTheSuccop
01-18-2008, 10:03 AM
so what is the deal? Is he actually leaving the bball team today or is he announcing the he is waiting until the end of the year to leave? Also, when is the proper time to pursue another coach? Is it best to wait until the end of the season?
FoghornLeghornCock
01-18-2008, 10:04 AM
The decision has now been made which most hoped would come to calm the turmoil. Coach Nix handled things with class and dignity I have no doubt Dave will as well. I hope we look to the future not to the past as quickly as possible. The worst thing we could do is cause this team to fragment even further and feel sorry for themselves. A new coach will be helped if this team progresses this year rather than waiting for his arrival. I do think this team has some talent and our actions might cause transfers or entry into the NBA before players are ready. If you care about progress get over the past as quickly as possible it accomplishes little.
willy
01-18-2008, 10:28 AM
Thats a bunch of crap. He is stepping down at the end of the season and not before. READ YOUR DAMN NEWSPAPER, before making wild comments.
behindenemylines
01-18-2008, 10:39 AM
I haven't read the entire pst so I am not sure if this has been posted, but this is a HUGE opportunity for the young men in the basketball program. I think we all agree that DO is a stand-up guy and respect the decision he has made. I hope that the players in the prgram will rally around their leader and coach and not "pack it in" waiting for their new coach. The rest of the season is an audition for them. Surely the new coach will take into account how this team reacts from here on out as a factor in his decision of whether or not to come to USC. They need to show the SEC that they can play with heart and fire and build off of the Arkansas win.
TheMule
01-18-2008, 10:44 AM
I have always had respect for Coach Odom.......he runs a clean program and is a great ambassador to our University....he just couldn't get us over the hump in the SEC.
I give him credit for trying to unite the Past to the Current in terms of USC Basketball celebrating 100 years.
I have even more respect for him now that he is stepping down at this point in the season rather than dragging it on for the rest of the season and taking the pressure off of himself and the players.
Hopefully, this will be a rally point for our players in hopes that they will send him out on a good note and start building for the future seeing that we have such a young team.
Easily the best post of the thread, Snake. I think you'll see a more relaxed head coach and players. Hopefully it'll translate into better play and more wins. Good luck, Dave!
BigSpenda864
01-18-2008, 10:47 AM
Odom is a great guy and a class act. I hate to see him go from a professional standpoint but he just hasn't produced. It sounds like the school is offering him a position with the university which is a good thing.
On positive has been the schools commitment to Odom. I am pleased that he wasn't fired after starting off slow. It takes a little time to get things going. In Odom's case I feel he was given enough rope to make the team better but failed.
sc455
01-18-2008, 10:54 AM
its too bad. we just beat arky and he had us going in the right direction
BigSpenda864
01-18-2008, 10:57 AM
its too bad. we just beat arky and he had us going in the right direction
No offense but we weren't going in the right direction. Winning one game is a start but Odom lost this team weeks, if not months ago.
The Yancey
01-18-2008, 10:59 AM
i think this sorta hit us sooner than we all expected. at least now Hyman won't get bashed for all this anymore. hopefully he'll be praised for bringing in a good coach to follow who knows the value of a 7' tall center.
Are you nuts? Bow-tie and Buster were cut out of this deal. Mungo and the board did this. Hymen had best pack his bags. There was his end run around board authority, being part of the admissions screw-up that irritated SOS, arbiter of all things warchest, and now with his boss strangled with his own bow tie my guess is that he had better hope that his 'hole buddies can make a place for him. You can bet that the incoming prez will be made aware of past history and will want his own man in place.
bioniccock
01-18-2008, 11:00 AM
Dave is a great guy. Eddie Floyd(BOT) said he hopes we can find a spot in the athletic dept. for Dave.
Derrell SC
01-18-2008, 11:06 AM
Sorry for being out of the loop. But, who is Anthony Grant?
diehardgamecock
01-18-2008, 11:08 AM
Sorry for being out of the loop. But, who is Anthony Grant?
www.google.com
8-)
Jubjub Bird
01-18-2008, 11:09 AM
I am thankful for all that Dave Odom has given to our university, and I wish him the best in his future endeavors.
I would love for him to find a place in our athletic administration, as he is wonderful ambassador for our university, and his kind and gracious manner seems to be warmly appreciated by all who meet him.
I too hope the team and fan base will rally round Dave for the remainder of the season and send him out on a positive note that both re-energizes our basketball program and honors the coach.
superstar90
01-18-2008, 11:16 AM
I think most of ya'll shouldn't be allowed to say a single nice word about the man. Sit back and read all these posts. Then look at what some of these writers have said in the past. There's no need to start kissing his arse now that he is doing what you want. You slander and trashed the man for the past two years, so don't stop now. He doesn't need your support now because he never got it from you before.
SangareeCrew
01-18-2008, 11:22 AM
hey ss, why do you think I'm being quiet on this thread!! LOL!!!
I am glad, however, that he has decided to move on......it is the best for the program.
acjuf
01-18-2008, 11:24 AM
Sorry for being out of the loop. But, who is Anthony Grant?
If you're fortunate, your next coach.
sc455
01-18-2008, 11:24 AM
I think most of ya'll shouldn't be allowed to say a single nice word about the man. Sit back and read all these posts. Then look at what some of these writers have said in the past. There's no need to start kissing his arse now that he is doing what you want. You slander and trashed the man for the past two years, so don't stop now. He doesn't need your support now because he never got it from you before.i can only speak for myself and you can search my posts to prove what i will say. I supported dave all the way thru 1 month ago. 1 month ago i realized dave was not ever going to really get us winning again. My point being is that not all these people praising Dave wanted him thrown under a bus
superstar90
01-18-2008, 11:26 AM
Yeah I meant to add the "you know who you are" part, but I forgot. That definitely was not meant for everyone.
diehardgamecock
01-18-2008, 11:29 AM
I think most of ya'll shouldn't be allowed to say a single nice word about the man. Sit back and read all these posts. Then look at what some of these writers have said in the past. There's no need to start kissing his arse now that he is doing what you want. You slander and trashed the man for the past two years, so don't stop now. He doesn't need your support now because he never got it from you before.
careful you don't hurt yourself getting off of that high horse....:blah:
most posters (at least the ones that i read) didn't like dave odom as the coach at usc.....it wasn't a personal thing. in fact, i've read countless posts with at least one remark that goes something like "he's a nice guy & a great ambassador for the university, BUT..."
if people want to wish him well now, that's their choice. if i want to blast a poster for taking a big crap on him now & attacking dave odom the man, i'll do it.
there's a difference between "slander and trashing" the man & waking up and realizing that he's been a failure as a coach.
nice guy doesn't = winning coach.
gamecockjay
01-18-2008, 11:30 AM
Is there a press conference planned?
diehardgamecock
01-18-2008, 11:33 AM
Is there a press conference planned?
somebody on another board said there was supposed to be one around 11am, but i don't remember any specific time being mentioned in the articles i've read.
ChucktwnLawCock
01-18-2008, 11:43 AM
^^ Yes, It says there is one at 11am acording to the uscsports.com website
Mecklenburg Cock
01-18-2008, 12:09 PM
I think most of ya'll shouldn't be allowed to say a single nice word about the man. Sit back and read all these posts. Then look at what some of these writers have said in the past. There's no need to start kissing his arse now that he is doing what you want. You slander and trashed the man for the past two years, so don't stop now. He doesn't need your support now because he never got it from you before.
I know what you're saying and know you're not talking about everyone on here, but let me say that while I've not been pleased with the progress of the program and the results, I've never waivered on my stance that DO is a classy individual who has represent USC well.
usc90grad
01-18-2008, 12:31 PM
www.wltx.com (http://www.wltx.com)
Going on right now
diehardgamecock
01-18-2008, 12:35 PM
let me say that while I've not been pleased with the progress of the program and the results, I've never waivered on my stance that DO is a classy individual who has represent USC well.
you and 99.9% of the posters on this and other sites.
FoghornLeghornCock
01-18-2008, 12:45 PM
For those at the Carolina basketball game I just want to remind you who may also be in attendance at the game so represent your university well this weekend.
January 17, 2008
Visit Weekend #2 Is Here
By Phil Kornblut
USC has its most active recruiting weekend of the campaign scheduled for this weekend and reaching into the MLK Holiday. Eleven prospects are scheduled to visit the Gamecocks from Friday thru Tuesday. Following are the scheduled weekend official visits for the Gamecocks:
DB Jarrett Burns of Huntsville, AL (committed)
OL T.J. Johnson of Aynor (committed)
OL Jonathan Cooper of Wilmington, NC
OL R.J. Mattes of Concord, NC
RB Kenny Miles of Snellville, GA (committed)
TE Mike Triglia of Jacksonville, FL
WR Jaron Brown of Cheraw
WR Tommy Streeter of Miami
WR T.J. Lawrence of Lakeland, FL
Scheduled to visit the Gamecocks over the MLK Holiday are DE Jomarcus Savage of Huntsville, AL and DE Glenn Harbin of Mobile, AL.
BigGeorge
01-18-2008, 12:49 PM
Are you nuts? Bow-tie and Buster were cut out of this deal. Mungo and the board did this. Hymen had best pack his bags. There was his end run around board authority, being part of the admissions screw-up that irritated SOS, arbiter of all things warchest, and now with his boss strangled with his own bow tie my guess is that he had better hope that his 'hole buddies can make a place for him. You can bet that the incoming prez will be made aware of past history and will want his own man in place.
Thing is, many members of The BOT need to grow some balls and do what Dave is doing!!!!! They have held us back more than any coach, AD or President ever has! Dave is being a honest stand up guy, he is being a man and steping aside, it's time for some members of the BOT to do the same!!!!!!!!!
gearhead302
01-18-2008, 03:04 PM
everybody listen to RT today Im shure he will be ranting about this haha
(this I truley..... ahhh screw it)
superstar90
01-18-2008, 03:49 PM
I'm not on a high horse, but if you can't tell how sorry of a fan some of ya'll have been that's not my problem. This message is only for the ppl who constantly ripped Dave and the team and now they want to talk nice today. No need to be nice now. It's only for 8-10 ya'll out there, but anyway. I pray the next coach wins quickly or he is going to catch hell with our fan base.
careful you don't hurt yourself getting off of that high horse....:blah:
most posters (at least the ones that i read) didn't like dave odom as the coach at usc.....it wasn't a personal thing. in fact, i've read countless posts with at least one remark that goes something like "he's a nice guy & a great ambassador for the university, BUT..."
if people want to wish him well now, that's their choice. if i want to blast a poster for taking a big crap on him now & attacking dave odom the man, i'll do it.
there's a difference between "slander and trashing" the man & waking up and realizing that he's been a failure as a coach.
nice guy doesn't = winning coach.
IBleedGarnetandBlack
01-18-2008, 03:54 PM
For those at the Carolina basketball game I just want to remind you who may also be in attendance at the game so represent your university well this weekend.
January 17, 2008
Visit Weekend #2 Is Here
By Phil Kornblut
USC has its most active recruiting weekend of the campaign scheduled for this weekend and reaching into the MLK Holiday. Eleven prospects are scheduled to visit the Gamecocks from Friday thru Tuesday. Following are the scheduled weekend official visits for the Gamecocks:
DB Jarrett Burns of Huntsville, AL (committed)
OL T.J. Johnson of Aynor (committed)
OL Jonathan Cooper of Wilmington, NC
OL R.J. Mattes of Concord, NC
RB Kenny Miles of Snellville, GA (committed)
TE Mike Triglia of Jacksonville, FL
WR Jaron Brown of Cheraw
WR Tommy Streeter of Miami
WR T.J. Lawrence of Lakeland, FL
Scheduled to visit the Gamecocks over the MLK Holiday are DE Jomarcus Savage of Huntsville, AL and DE Glenn Harbin of Mobile, AL.
No worries the next game is Wednesday vs Florida. Maybe they will take the recruits to the circus though.
IBleedGarnetandBlack
01-18-2008, 03:57 PM
anybody know the email for the halftime show on 1075 by chance?
Nasty
01-18-2008, 05:54 PM
he is going to leave at the end of the year according to gamecockcentral.com. what is wrong with the students up there why dont they like our team?
treykkpsi
01-18-2008, 06:13 PM
I see things going from bad to worse after he steps down.
Thanks for the good times Dave...You'll be missed by many.
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FoghornLeghornCock
01-18-2008, 06:26 PM
USC's Odom says he will retire at end of basketball season
By Travis Haney (http://www.charleston.net/staff/travis_haney/) (Contact (http://www.charleston.net/staff/travis_haney/contact/))
Friday, January 18, 2008 http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/jan/18/uscs_odom_says_he_will_retire_end_basketball_seaso/
COLUMBIA — Realizing the majority of the fan base was no longer supporting him, South Carolina basketball coach Dave Odom announced today that he'll step down at the end of the season in the hopes that the fans will immediately throw their support behind the team.
"I didn’t feel like the arena was excited to see our team play,” Odom said at a news conference. “More than that, I didn’t feel that the arena was excited to help our team play. … I think, if you take me out of the equation, the voices of dissent can now use their energy in total support of our basketball team and give them the best chance to be all that they can be this year.”
Odom, who got his 400th win Jan. 2 against Radford, is 121-93 in six-plus seasons at USC and 401-268 in 22 overall seasons that also included stops at East Carolina and Wake Forest.
This year's Gamecocks (9-8, 1-2 SEC) upset Arkansas on the road Wednesday evening to halt a three-game losing streak and get their first conference victory.
Odom, 65, said he'd been in talks with USC athletic director Eric Hyman since the spring about the possibility of retiring.
That said, Odom did mention that he's not opposed to staying on board at USC in some consulting capacity. He said he wouldn't actively seek another coaching job, but wanted to "teach" basketball on some level - even if it were "seventh-grade, middle-school ball."
Odom received a two-year extension in January 2007 that would’ve carried him through the 2009-10 season. The standard buyout at this point would've been $250,000, but a negotiated rate of $50,000 was reached between Odom and the school.
Odom has received the most criticism for the fact that his teams have played in just one NCAA tournament, losing to Memphis in the first-round in 2004.
He said Friday he's disappointed in his teams' conference record. Through Wednesday's victory, Odom was 37-62 in SEC play.
Saying it was "Dave's day," Hyman refused to take questions about the direction of the coaching search, which sources said Thursday is already in its beginning stages.
Among the names mentioned were Virginia Commonwealth's Anthony Grant and Wichita State's Gregg Marshall, the former Winthrop coach who is from Greenwood.
Reach Travis Haney at thaney@postandcourier.com.
akn4bkn
01-18-2008, 06:35 PM
NO MORE !!!! FIRE HIS BUTT TODAY!!!! NO MORE GAMES OF THIS CRAP. I'M TIRED OF HIM!!!
The Yancey
01-18-2008, 06:39 PM
We're tired of you. Looks like we'll both be disappointed. Odom is here until 4-1 and you're still posting hate filled drivel.
diehardgamecock
01-18-2008, 08:57 PM
NO MORE !!!! FIRE HIS BUTT TODAY!!!! NO MORE GAMES OF THIS CRAP. I'M TIRED OF HIM!!!
amazing.
and people accuse me of "bashing" odom......yeah. right. :roll:
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