View Full Version : USC at Kentucky GAME THREAD
Snake
01-26-2008, 09:09 AM
South Carolina Gamecocks at Kentucky Wildcats
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When: 1:00 PM
Where: Rupp Arena, Lexington, Kentucky
TV: Lincoln Financial (NBC)
Radio: 107.5FM (http://www.fm107.com/)
Records: South Carolina(9-9)(1-3) in SEC, Kentucky (8-9)(2-2) in SEC
Coaches: Dave Odom (401-269 in 22 seasons, 123-95 in 7 seasons at South Carolina);
Billy Gillespie (108-67 in 6 seasons, 8-9 in 1 season at Kentucky)
Starting Lineups:
South Carolina
F 6-9 Sam Muldrow (4.2)......or
F 6-7 Evka Baniulis (3.1)
F 6-7 Dominique Archie (10.4)
F 6-5 Dwayne Day (4.9)
G 6-0 Zam Frederick II (16.1)
G 5-9 Devan Downey (19.9)
Kentucky
F 6-8 Mark Coury (3.1 PPG)
F 6-9 Patrick Patterson (16.8)
G 6-2 Ramel Bradley (16.1)
G 6-5 Joe Crawford (16.0)
G 6-7 Ramon Harris (3.6)
BlackMagicCock
01-26-2008, 11:17 AM
Lets Do It Cocks, We Have The Talent...DO WORK!!
Cocklover
01-26-2008, 11:57 AM
GO COCKS!!! I'll be watching! Beat the Cats!!
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 11:59 AM
go cocks, win today would be awesome.
khosk
01-26-2008, 12:59 PM
Go Cocks
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 01:07 PM
Gotta contain Patrick Patterson.
USCya
01-26-2008, 01:09 PM
need this win today BAD... UK is might tough at home.
cockypoppy068
01-26-2008, 01:10 PM
GO COCKS!!!
Darth Visor
01-26-2008, 01:13 PM
GO COCKS!!!
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:02 PM
downey leading the sec in points and steals, having a heck of a year
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:02 PM
downey leading the sec in points and steals, having a heck of a year
Too bad he cant get any help from his frontcourt.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:03 PM
Too bad he cant get any help from his frontcourt.
hey we have played pretty dang good the last 4 games
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:05 PM
4-0 kentucky
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:05 PM
Please.
Put a body on Patterson.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:06 PM
hey we have played pretty dang good the last 4 games
1-3 in those 4.
Just sayin.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:06 PM
Archie and Evka are going to get killed underneath if this keeps up.
Mike Holmes has got to be on the court to body with Patterson.
Nice shot by Devan.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:08 PM
i love these black jerseys
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:10 PM
Nice shot by Archie.
He needs to have a good game.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:11 PM
10-7 uk
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:14 PM
alright muldrow in for evka
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:16 PM
archie already with 2 3's 13-12 uk, looking pretty good
uscnoklahoma
01-26-2008, 02:17 PM
How much would I have to chip in for us to find someone big enough to block out and rebound? I swear we would be undefeated if we had one, just one, big man.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:18 PM
Day needs to make those open 3's...
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:19 PM
How much would I have to chip in for us to find someone big enough to block out and rebound? I swear we would be undefeated if we had one, just one, big man.
We got a 6'11 guy that sits on the bench if that makes you feel any better..probably not though. :grin:
I do agree though...a guy like Al Horford would be ideal for us.
Oh, and Patrick Patterson scores again.
carolinakid104
01-26-2008, 02:21 PM
downey straight wettt
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:21 PM
downey is amazing, 15-14
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:21 PM
This is an interesting defense we are playing....Is it a 1-3-1 or a rotating 3-2 zone? I cant really tell.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:22 PM
awesome sig carolinakid104
carolinakid104
01-26-2008, 02:22 PM
awesome sig carolinakid104
thanks my nucca
carolinakid104
01-26-2008, 02:26 PM
geez patterson is a beast
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:28 PM
awesome defense on that one series
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:29 PM
What the hell was that?
We just blew a 4 on 2 break.
Damnit Devan.
carolinakid104
01-26-2008, 02:31 PM
holy shit we cant make a damn basket
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:32 PM
Its amazing that we havent shot a FT all game.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:34 PM
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BLOW ANOTHER FAST BREAK?
CHRIST....
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:35 PM
hey CoverTwo what is that in your sig?
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:37 PM
Lupe Fiasco's album covers for The Cool and Food & Liquor..I dont know if you listen to rap or not but he is a rapper and a very good one..You should check some of his stuff out.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:37 PM
Lupe Fiasco's album covers for The Cool and Food & Liquor..I dont know if you listen to rap or not but he is a rapper and a very good one..You should check some of his stuff out.
oh okay, yeah i might have to download some of his stuff
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:38 PM
Evka is playing hard..I wish he would fire away from 3 when he gets a look but he passes up too much..
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:40 PM
downey is awesome, does anyone know if he has a shot at the nba? or is he too short?
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:40 PM
Ramel Bradley has a pretty shot.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:45 PM
We are playing hard right now. Thats a good sign. Just need to tighten up on defense.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:46 PM
Mitchell Carter is in the game.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:46 PM
yeah we are looking dang good, win this one for coach odom.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:48 PM
Kentucky going on a run....we need a basket.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:48 PM
39-34 uk we need to finish this half
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:49 PM
Why in the hell would Carter only get maybe 1 min then get taken out? I mean at least let him get a little burn to see what he can do...We had a big lineup out there with Devan, Zam, Archie, Holmes, and Carter....rahhhhhh
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:51 PM
39-34 kentucky at the half, played a pretty good half faded a little bit in the last 2 min. but still only a 5 point game
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 02:51 PM
39-34 UK @ half.
Not bad. We can win this thing if we make some adjustments.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 02:53 PM
39-34 UK @ half.
Not bad. We can win this thing if we make some adjustments.
the only thing is odom isn't the best at making halftime adjustments but we will see
Cocklover
01-26-2008, 02:54 PM
it seems the last 5 minutes of the first half we go into some other mode. Come on Cocks!!!!
CockyChrisCox
01-26-2008, 02:57 PM
we collapse in the last 2 minutes of every single half. it's so frustrating. if we're not up by more than 6, be afraid in the last two minutes.
good to see dave using the bench. holmes, carter, gray, banilius, downey, day, archie, muldrow, frederick and raley-ross have all seen time in the first half.
downey is awesome, does anyone know if he has a shot at the nba? or is he too short?
If Earl Boykins and Nate Robinson can play in the NBA at less than 5'8" then Downey belongs there.
In other words, If he keeps this up, he'll be a 1st or 2nd round pick his senior year.
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:07 PM
I wish Holmes would get into a game w/some confidence he looks like he wants to make something happen but he is in hesitation mode the entire time???? We need he and Muldrow to continue to improve.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:08 PM
alright second half is about to start.
downey, fredrick, evka, day, and archie starting the second half
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:08 PM
I just tuned in has Holmes seen a lot of action or is he in the dog house?
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:09 PM
get hot zam!
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:09 PM
yes sir cocks up by 1!!
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:10 PM
Holmes has played a good bit.
Evka is on FIYAH.
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:10 PM
Zam and Evka back-to-back threes and evka rebounding hard
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:10 PM
fredrick with a 3!! up by 4 now
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:11 PM
nice start to the second half and we're actually blocking out and rebounding!
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:11 PM
looks like odom did make those halftime adjustments
ChucktwnLawCock
01-26-2008, 03:11 PM
wow...thats a nice start to a half hu
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:12 PM
Evka has been ballin today/great hands.
FREDERICK!!!!
ChucktwnLawCock
01-26-2008, 03:12 PM
i love the blokcing out
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:12 PM
SHHHHHHHHHHHHZAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!1
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:12 PM
wow! deep three by zam!
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:12 PM
we are on fire! up by 7 now
We lead 46-39.
I would bet my house we lose this lead and the game.
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:13 PM
Best start to a 2 half all year.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:13 PM
We lead 46-39.
I would bet my house we lose this lead and the game.
Well at least someone said it :rotfl:
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:14 PM
BADA-BING!!!!!
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:14 PM
you don't always have to think like a gamecock fan you know!
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:15 PM
Well at least someone said it :rotfl:
I felt this way the entire UF game.:thumbs:
you don't always have to think like a gamecock fan you know!
but we all know what's comin :thumbs:
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:16 PM
but we all know what's comin :thumbs:
haha yeah, we have all been gamecock fans for too long, we all know there is no way we can hold on to this lead
jared
01-26-2008, 03:16 PM
12-0 run to start the half. wheres this been all year long?
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:17 PM
What is that sound I hear...(a pin drops) lol.
The crowd is sitting on their hands..HAHA.
Let's keep it up COCKS!!! That reads a bit perverted.
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:19 PM
Evka has really stepped up his play. By the way why doesn't Archie ball hog and dominate more often?
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:19 PM
Evka has really stepped up his play. By the way why doesn't Archie ball hog and dominate more often?
I said the same thing in a thread earlier.
He needs to DOMINATE when he gets the ball.
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:20 PM
dumb foul by Zam
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:20 PM
great 2 point game now
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:21 PM
real cute play by UK hahaha
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:21 PM
what a stupid behind the back pass by uk
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:21 PM
3!!!!!!!!
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:23 PM
bad shot by zammy
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:23 PM
We have enough slasher and 3-point ability that we don't need scoring out of our big men. All we need from them is fighting hard for rebounds and boxing out and we can be a very tough team. Maybe we've figured that out now.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:23 PM
Poor shot selection by Zam.
Tie game 51 all.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:23 PM
ahh what a shot by downey cocks up by 2
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:24 PM
not ripping here but Dave should have taken a TO earlier
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:26 PM
Archie in foul trouble..not what we needed.:thumbs:
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:27 PM
BOX OUT!
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:27 PM
what a dunk by patterson, tie ballgame
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:29 PM
Evka and Sam running the point??? What in the heck is going on?
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:29 PM
how do you miss that wide open lay up?
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:29 PM
Big shot by D-Day.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:29 PM
THATS A HORSESHIT CALL.
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:30 PM
Muldrow needs some help inside.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:30 PM
Oh, and have we shot any FT's today?
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:30 PM
made both free throws tied at 55
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:31 PM
Evka is killing it today.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:31 PM
Oh, and have we shot any FT's today?
no, awesome 3 by evka 58-55 cocks
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:33 PM
WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PLAYERS LEFT BY THE END OF THIS GAME!!! REFS CHOKE AND DIE!!
KCSuge
01-26-2008, 03:34 PM
Can we find a way to WIN a game instead of lose, PLEASE!
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:35 PM
Downey with the and 1.
Hey, our first trip to the charity stripe...
carolinafan53186
01-26-2008, 03:35 PM
We have no big men. Archie was dominating Paterson
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:35 PM
nice devan downey! he's so fast!
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:35 PM
Downey has used his left hand more today than all season. Go baby!!
ChucktwnLawCock
01-26-2008, 03:35 PM
thats a big foul on downey
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:35 PM
dang, thats 4 on downey. that hurts
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:36 PM
#4 FOUL ON DOWNEY
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:36 PM
you would think odom would take downey out for a couple of min.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:36 PM
We have no big men. Archie was dominating Paterson
Is that why Patterson has 20 something points? Idk about that statement..
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Holmes is going to get his chance the way the fouls are being called
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:37 PM
you would think odom would take downey out for a couple of min.
It will get ugly if that happens...Downey has to finish the game if we are going to win..
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:37 PM
These refs are ****in pitiful.
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:37 PM
NOOOOOO
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:38 PM
how many fouls is that on Zam?
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:38 PM
way to go zammy, fouled meeks on a 3 pointer
KingCock
01-26-2008, 03:39 PM
It was a pretty BS foul call
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:39 PM
awesome shot by zammy, 63-60 cocks
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:39 PM
sweet layup by zam up by 3 points
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:39 PM
GRAB THE REBOUND.
%#@$@#$@#$@#$@#$R
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:39 PM
Bad and then good typical ZAM
ChucktwnLawCock
01-26-2008, 03:39 PM
17 chances per possession for Kentucky
carolinafan53186
01-26-2008, 03:39 PM
Man we just don't know what the term rebound means
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:40 PM
Day with a dumb forced shot and we're down
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:40 PM
Here comes the collapse...
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:40 PM
f*** jasper just hit a 3 uk up by 2
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:40 PM
O NO. Time to keep our composure.
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:40 PM
I just wish Zam would play more defense
KingCock
01-26-2008, 03:41 PM
Downey needs to drive more and get to the line. We are taking too many jump shots.
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:41 PM
Downey at the line hits 1 of 2 from the line
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:42 PM
that ball went everywhere but in for Zam
carolinafan53186
01-26-2008, 03:42 PM
Man Zam's shot had to touch the net before it came back out
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:42 PM
64-65 3:24 to go
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:42 PM
65-64 uk 3:24 left.
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:44 PM
Muldrow is the only rebounder on the floor. Everytime he steps out to help defend. Day and Evka look lost on the block outs.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:46 PM
There is a lid on the basket now. Not good.
KCSuge
01-26-2008, 03:46 PM
That might just about do it.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:46 PM
uk up by 5 now, need a basket
ktguen
01-26-2008, 03:47 PM
please learn to rebound gamecocks.
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:47 PM
2 mins and it does not look good now.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:47 PM
and we didn't get one
KCSuge
01-26-2008, 03:48 PM
We need a basket NOW!
KingCock
01-26-2008, 03:48 PM
We're a soft jump shooting team like the Toronto Raptors. The shots wont always fall and you wont get very far like that. You have to get to the basket and draw fouls. Not to mention rebounds would be nice.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:48 PM
day went flying into the stands looked like that hurt pretty bad
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:48 PM
Come on ROSS.
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:49 PM
that'll pretty much do it.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:49 PM
Thats the game right there
Hey look we blew another lead.
I find it hard to believe that Kentucky has only 4 team fouls.
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:49 PM
that'll def. do it
KCSuge
01-26-2008, 03:49 PM
Ball game.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:49 PM
72-66, huge 3 by uk
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:50 PM
the officials must have been paid by UK today
LtSmokes1
01-26-2008, 03:50 PM
God we suck.
we suck we suck we suck.
Odom you suck.
**** the USC basketball program, i get so fed up with watching SHIT game in and game out.
Regalcock
01-26-2008, 03:50 PM
Game :thumbs: only a miracle now. At least our team has no quit now. They played hard and were not intimidated.:clap:
ILiveInTheRoost
01-26-2008, 03:51 PM
God we suck.
we suck we suck we suck.
Odom you suck.
**** the USC basketball program, i get so fed up with watching SHIT game in and game out.
Then don't watch.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:51 PM
haha ghez odom's jacket is ugly
KCSuge
01-26-2008, 03:51 PM
I just do not understand this team. Could someone explain? This is ridiculous. I wish we could find ways to win not lose.
No Curse
01-26-2008, 03:52 PM
wonder what the converstion on the plane trip back today will be.
"I wish we had home fans like that"
I wish we had team that hold a dam lead
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:52 PM
Game :thumbs: only a miracle now. At least our team has no quit now. They played hard and were not intimidated.:clap:
Thats like saying you took the hottest girl to prom but didnt end up getting any afterwards.
KingCock
01-26-2008, 03:53 PM
I just do not understand this team. Could someone explain? This is ridiculous. I wish we could find ways to win not lose.
When all you do is shoot jumpers you lose when you get on a cold streak and can't stop the other team from getting second chance shots and scoring. You have to run plays and get higher percentage shots and get to the line to shoot free throws. This offense is stupid.
LtSmokes1
01-26-2008, 03:53 PM
We will always have the curse.
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:54 PM
at least downey is padding his stats
We lead 46-39.
I would bet my house we lose this lead and the game.
I called it.
CockySpurrier85
01-26-2008, 03:55 PM
I called it.
congrats
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:55 PM
guys come on kentucky started out the season real slow but have been really good as of late. they just beat Tennessee, its not like we are losing to the worst team in the SEC. We know we aren't that good this year and our guys played their hearts out and we got out matched towards the end of the game. Rupp Arena is a hard place to play a game and especially right now when the UK team is coming together and starting to play towards their expectations.
LtSmokes1
01-26-2008, 03:55 PM
I called it.
Oh I knew we would lose. Our defense is HORRIBLE.
Blake
01-26-2008, 03:55 PM
I just do not understand this team. Could someone explain? This is ridiculous. I wish we could find ways to win not lose.
Hailing up threes only last for so long. When it gets to the final minutes of each half it all comes down to coaching, look at the UF game, look at this game. We dont give up i like that, i like this team, we just need some scoring down low. Archie is our best post player and the best scorer with his back to the basket but we have him out on the perimeter launching up threes with the rest of the guys. We need him to play down low for some scoring.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:56 PM
78-70 final
KCSuge
01-26-2008, 03:56 PM
When all you do is shoot jumpers you lose when you get on a cold streak and can't stop the other team from getting second chance shots and scoring. You have to run plays and get higher percentage shots and get to the line to shoot free throws. This offense is stupid.
Good explanation. I still don't understand this team though. Bottom line, we are not good and this is getting really old.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 03:57 PM
Hailing up threes only last for so long. When it gets to the final minutes of each half it all comes down to coaching, look at the UF game, look at this game. We dont give up i like that, i like this team, we just need some scoring down low. Archie is our best post player and the best scorer with his back to the basket but we have him out on the perimeter launching up threes with the rest of the guys. We need him to play down low for some scoring.
He isnt big enough to play in the low block..Patterson, Stephenson, etc all pushed him around..He is a SMALL FORWARD..He needs to be on the wing and use his athletic ability to get to the basket.
Mike Holmes, Sam Muldrow, Chad Gray, Mitchell Carter....one of those guys needs to improve drastically for us to have an inside game..
Kentucky shows you the need for some big men and an inside game to compliment the outside game. Balance. Without it, we will not win.
KingCock
01-26-2008, 03:58 PM
He isnt big enough to play in the low block..Patterson, Stephenson, etc all pushed him around..He is a SMALL FORWARD..He needs to be on the wing and use his athletic ability to get to the basket.
Mike Holmes, Sam Muldrow, Chad Gray, Mitchell Carter....one of those guys needs to improve drastically for us to have an inside game..
You're probably right. Until you get an inside game this is what you get though.
CaptainCrunch
01-26-2008, 03:58 PM
downey finished with 24 points. another awesome game by DD.
ILiveInTheRoost
01-26-2008, 03:59 PM
78-70 final
The spread for this game was 8. That last-second completely pointless dunk was especially painful.
USCya
01-26-2008, 04:01 PM
I swear our last 4 minutes of games we look pathetic... conditioning or depth?
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 04:01 PM
What is really frustrating is that Sam Muldrow has gone from playing with high energy and being aggressive to a player that looks lost all the time and when he gets the ball his eyes light up like he doesnt know where he is...I hope he improves over the next 3 years..
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 04:01 PM
I swear our last 4 minutes of games we look pathetic... conditioning or depth?
Depth.
We only run a 7 man rotation.
usc90grad
01-26-2008, 04:03 PM
Kentucky is having a tough year. They should have smoked us by double digits.
USCya
01-26-2008, 04:04 PM
We can play with any team in the country for the first 30-35 minutes.
LtSmokes1
01-26-2008, 04:05 PM
How did we beat Arkansas...
CockyChrisCox
01-26-2008, 04:09 PM
god dave i can't wait for you to leave. i like you and all, but pack your shit and go.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 04:11 PM
Another thing that bothers me with this team is that we have AWFUL spacing on the offensive end..We are too clustered and it makes us easier to defend..With the quickness our guards have and our lack of interior play, you would think that we would go to a more spread the floor attack and make teams get out and guard us..That way our guards can use their speed to get into the lane and create..That is what Duke does so well and they dont have post guy on their team..But they do an amazing job of spreading the floor and shooting the 3....I guess its too much to ask for though...
UGA beat Arkansas, too, so that is not a sure win, either.
RHHS8068
01-26-2008, 04:13 PM
South Carolina Gamecocks at Kentucky Wildcats
http://graphics.collegesports.com/graphics/teams/team-logo-scar.gifathttp://graphics.collegesports.com/graphics/teams/team-logo-kty.gif
When: 1:00 PM
Where: Rupp Arena, Lexington, Kentucky
TV: Lincoln Financial (NBC)
Radio: 107.5FM (http://www.fm107.com/)
Records: South Carolina(9-9)(1-3) in SEC, Kentucky (8-9)(2-2) in SEC
Coaches: Dave Odom (401-269 in 22 seasons, 123-95 in 7 seasons at South Carolina);
Billy Gillespie (108-67 in 6 seasons, 8-9 in 1 season at Kentucky)
Starting Lineups:
South Carolina
F 6-9 Sam Muldrow (4.2)......or
F 6-7 Evka Baniulis (3.1)
F 6-7 Dominique Archie (10.4)
F 6-5 Dwayne Day (4.9)
G 6-0 Zam Frederick II (16.1)
G 5-9 Devan Downey (19.9)
Kentucky
F 6-8 Mark Coury (3.1 PPG)
F 6-9 Patrick Patterson (16.8)
G 6-2 Ramel Bradley (16.1)
G 6-5 Joe Crawford (16.0)
G 6-7 Ramon Harris (3.6)
Snake, I got in late to this thread. Don't know if anyone pointed this out, but fm107.com is the site for WRHM-FM, 107.1, in Lancaster.
107.5 "The Game", WNKT, doesn't have it's web site up yet.
http://rope.wtcb-fm.fimc.net/wnkt-fm/
RHHS8068
01-26-2008, 04:18 PM
guys come on kentucky started out the season real slow but have been really good as of late. they just beat Tennessee, its not like we are losing to the worst team in the SEC. We know we aren't that good this year and our guys played their hearts out and we got out matched towards the end of the game. Rupp Arena is a hard place to play a game and especially right now when the UK team is coming together and starting to play towards their expectations.
CC is right on, y'all. I'm not happy with the loss either, but Kentucky is just plain the better team today. This loss is what it is, but should not be discouraging.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 04:19 PM
CC is right on, y'all. I'm not happy with the loss either, but Kentucky is just plain the better team today. This loss is what it is, but should not be discouraging.
Just like the Florida loss right? Or all the other close games we lose in basketball and football? Come on. There comes a point where you say F moral victories.
ConwayGamecock
01-26-2008, 04:32 PM
Kentucky is having a tough year. They should have smoked us by double digits.
They played without one of their starters: Crawford....
LtSmokes1
01-26-2008, 04:45 PM
Just like the Florida loss right? Or all the other close games we lose in basketball and football? Come on. There comes a point where you say F moral victories.
Completely agreed, we have had 7 years of moral victories with Odom.
How can you not be discouraged by loss after loss after loss.
COCKROCK
01-26-2008, 04:47 PM
USC
3-PT FGS: 12-30, .4 (E Baniulis 4-7, Z Fredrick 3-9, D Downey 2-4, D Archie 2-6, D Day 1-4)
UK
3-PT FGS: 8-13, .615 (R Bradley 5-5, J Meeks 2-6, D Jasper 1-2)
Maybe why we lost..... We stand around outside the arc and sling em up, and thats the game plan.
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 04:50 PM
USC
3-PT FGS: 12-30, .4 (E Baniulis 4-7, Z Fredrick 3-9, D Downey 2-4, D Archie 2-6, D Day 1-4)
UK
3-PT FGS: 8-13, .615 (R Bradley 5-5, J Meeks 2-6, D Jasper 1-2)
Maybe why we lost..... We stand around outside the arc and sling em up, and thats the game plan.
Its the only thing we got..None of our "big guys" are very fundamental in the post..and when they do get position, the guards wont give them the ball..so as the game goes on, they tend to float out to the perimeter..As Spurrier would say, we are what we are.
Again, I really wonder why Dave doesnt spread the floor and take advantage of his team's quickness..He wants to run a flex offense (a la Wisconsin) but in order to do that you have to have guys that:
1. Rebound
2. Can pass from the high post
3. Set good screens
None of our big guys do that particularily well and it shows.
USCya
01-26-2008, 04:51 PM
USC
3-PT FGS: 12-30, .4 (E Baniulis 4-7, Z Fredrick 3-9, D Downey 2-4, D Archie 2-6, D Day 1-4)
UK
3-PT FGS: 8-13, .615 (R Bradley 5-5, J Meeks 2-6, D Jasper 1-2)
Maybe why we lost..... We stand around outside the arc and sling em up, and thats the game plan.
40% is not bad but especially when we shot almost 3x's as many.
BTW remember the 3 FREE throws on a foul beyond the arch... that did not count in this stat but counted as three non the less.
gAmkok
01-26-2008, 05:03 PM
Just a quick, not totally unrelated, question....
What does everyone think Dave meant by creating "special memories" in his retirement presser?
USCya
01-26-2008, 05:04 PM
Just a quick, not totally unrelated, question....
What does everyone think Dave meant by creating "special memories" in his retirement presser?
NIT related I am sure!
gAmkok
01-26-2008, 05:05 PM
NIT related I am sure!
Even that is looking like a looooooong shot.
USCya
01-26-2008, 05:07 PM
Even that is looking like a looooooong shot.
thinking of past not present....
garnet4ever
01-26-2008, 05:42 PM
until we get a post guy and get someone that can drive in the lane other than Downey, that 3pt ratio will always be 2x-3x what we actually make ...
USCya
01-26-2008, 05:44 PM
you tell 'em Ron!
garnet4ever
01-26-2008, 05:54 PM
you tell 'em Ron!
you know it!:lol:
LtSmokes1
01-26-2008, 06:01 PM
Don't they have a new tournament now where if you don't make the NIT, you can get into it?
Doubt we can make it.
GamecockDad1531
01-26-2008, 06:45 PM
This is what you get from teams that have the gameplan to have one guy drive while the other four hang out around the arc for an open pass. Poor offensive rebounding, poor shot selection and not taking advantage of the greatest invention in basketball, the free throw. This team was built to not succeed.
Luke Skycocker
01-26-2008, 07:05 PM
we lose once again due to our lack of heighth and rebounding
usc90grad
01-26-2008, 07:16 PM
Our basketball program will also be average....regardless of who's the coach.
diehardgamecock
01-26-2008, 07:52 PM
Our basketball program will also be average....regardless of who's the coach.
bullcrap.
Wazir
01-26-2008, 08:11 PM
I say again: Good Night Irene!
CockRoche
01-26-2008, 08:32 PM
CC is right on, y'all. I'm not happy with the loss either, but Kentucky is just plain the better team today. This loss is what it is, but should not be discouraging.
Florida and Kentucky are as down as they are going to be. Our program should be in position to be at the top of the SEC with a seven year coach. Instead, we are desperate for one quality win.
CockRoche
01-26-2008, 08:36 PM
When all you do is shoot jumpers you lose when you get on a cold streak and can't stop the other team from getting second chance shots and scoring. You have to run plays and get higher percentage shots and get to the line to shoot free throws. This offense is stupid.
This is exactly right. We do not have an offense. Just like against Florida. The only reason we were in the game is because of ridiculous three point shots being made. Those usually don't last the whole game, especially during crunch time. Then you need to be able to have a legit offensive scheme.
uscnoklahoma
01-26-2008, 08:38 PM
And to think.....I got chastised all year for saying we needed a big man....down right funny now. That's the only thing this team needs to get over the hump....one big man with some height and weight.
uscnoklahoma
01-26-2008, 08:40 PM
Florida and Kentucky are as down as they are going to be. Our program should be in position to be at the top of the SEC with a seven year coach. Instead, we are desperate for one quality win.
You're exactly right....it seems like this should have been the year for us to make noise in football and basketball and yet we are on life support in basketball and were in football.
carolinakid104
01-26-2008, 08:41 PM
im not bashing the team by any means but is it just me or does it seem like we have a BIG time problem of closing the deal
CoverTwo
01-26-2008, 08:43 PM
You're exactly right....it seems like this should have been the year for us to make noise in football and basketball and yet we are on life support in basketball and were in football.
I never chastised you for wanting a big guy..I simply said that height (Mitchell Carter) for example is overrated..I agree that we need a big guy but he doesnt need to be 7 foot..a 6'9 250-260 bruiser that has a wide body (but agile) and can establish himself on the low block would be ideal right now. Glad we are on the same page though. :thumbsup:
Gamecock_Aholic
01-26-2008, 09:17 PM
im not bashing the team by any means but is it just me or does it seem like we have a BIG time problem of closing the deal
that was my thought.
gAmkok
01-26-2008, 10:08 PM
Originally Posted by usc90grad
Our basketball program will also be average....regardless of who's the coach.
bullcrap.
Thank you for responding to that.
Look at Ole Miss. They're program was average, they got a great coach and look at them now.
ILiveInTheRoost
01-26-2008, 10:30 PM
Look at Ole Miss. They're program was average, they got a great coach and look at them now.
Just FYI...Ole Miss got spanked by 20 by Mississippi State tonight. Now might not be the time to "look at them."
Our team is very, very young. We will be fine.
mkpkr
01-26-2008, 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by carolinakid104
im not bashing the team by any means but is it just me or does it seem like we have a BIG time problem of closing the deal
you know... i went to a couple different bars in charlotte looking for the game and no-one had it... so i went home. i was extremely excited to be watching the cocks on tv... then they blew it.. i don't even know what to say.
RHHS8068
01-26-2008, 10:39 PM
Just like the Florida loss right? Or all the other close games we lose in basketball and football? Come on. There comes a point where you say F moral victories.
C2, who said anything about a moral victory? The spread was 8. You think the folks in Vegas don't know what they're doing? We should not have won this game and we didn't. That's disappointing, but not discouraging. There's a difference.
We are what we are. you said it yourself a couple of posts later.
Luke Skycocker
01-26-2008, 10:40 PM
ole miss and mississippi state are both very good. auburn isnt too bad this year either
robgusc76
01-27-2008, 12:46 AM
So this may have already beed said but is it true that we shot 2-3 in free throws which means we only shot 3 free throws thats some B.S. that is terrible especially with the fact that they shot like 30 or something that game film needs to be looked over a couple of times.
Singaporecock
01-27-2008, 01:15 AM
Its not the refs at all....if we don't attack the basket...we will not get fouls called. Jump shooting teams do not shoot many free throws
Those were shooting fouls, others, inside, may have been the kind in rebounding or in trying to get position for rebounds, not the kind you shoot FT's on, unless you get in the bonus. As we have small "big men", that often means we get less fouls there, too.
I should think if this keeps up, this club may set a dubious record for the fewest fouls shots taken by a USC team in a season (at least in the modern era).
usc90grad
01-27-2008, 08:07 AM
bullcrap.
I would love to be proved wrong...in my lifetime.
U-Dub Gamecock
01-27-2008, 10:51 AM
Day with a dumb forced shot and we're down
Day with a stupid shot.... yeah, he does that at least 1-2 times per game.. He is about as good now as he was as a freshman... And I put that on coaching.. At least both of those parts will be gone next year.. I am out in California right now... and saw the score... Sounds alot like we did the same damn thing as we did against Florida.. let for most of the game... and choked it away in the last 5 minutes..
Odom... happy retirement.. Now, lets get a coach in here!!
CoverTwo
01-27-2008, 12:49 PM
C2, who said anything about a moral victory? The spread was 8. You think the folks in Vegas don't know what they're doing? We should not have won this game and we didn't. That's disappointing, but not discouraging. There's a difference.
We are what we are. you said it yourself a couple of posts later.
I dont follow..I could care less what Vegas thinks and I'm sure our team feels the same way..We were up by 7 in the 2nd half..We had a chance to shut the damn door on them and we didnt..AGAIN..We should've won this game..No ands, ifs, or buts..To say differently is saying this was a moral victory IMO..and we have had too many of those in our sports history..
RHHS8068
01-27-2008, 01:24 PM
I dont follow..I could care less what Vegas thinks and I'm sure our team feels the same way..We were up by 7 in the 2nd half..We had a chance to shut the damn door on them and we didnt..AGAIN..We should've won this game..No ands, ifs, or buts..To say differently is saying this was a moral victory IMO..and we have had too many of those in our sports history..
Just because you have a 3 point lead with 6 minutes left doesn't mean you should win in Rupp. Look, UK/UF were disappointing, Arky was encouraging, UNCA now that was discouraging.
If you get discouraged, rather than disappointed, every time we lose a road game that we favored to lose by a fairly wide margin, you're setting yourself up for a long, unhappy life as a fan. That's my point. Not that this was a moral victory.
I don't think you can say that "we are what we are" and then be way down that we got beat at Rupp. That's just not consistent.
diehardgamecock
01-27-2008, 01:32 PM
I would love to be proved wrong...in my lifetime.
unless you're around 10 years old, you already have been.
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