What does love mean to you?

[carolinafan53186]

I just had the most wonderful evening. And it got me thinking; what does love mean to you? For me right now it means finding ways to connect that aren't physical. I'm dating a very good Christian girl and we aren't very physical, but I feel like I'm connecting in ways I never thought possible. Thoughts anyone?

[cocky_carolina_chick04]

Love means accepting that person for just who they are, and loving them unconditionally, even if they arent perfect...or just perfect for your life or family....in love you have to sacrifice,but in the end, it makes it all worthwhile...i have been in love, and it was real and wonderful..and i still love him everyday...but i guess some things just arent meant to be, so you got to move on, and find someone else to share your love with..life is too short to worry about what other ppl think.so love as much as you can, with no reservations! :)) good luck with that!

[The Yancey]

Love means having to check out the "buying new sheets" thread more often. Remember, sex is only dirty when it is done right!

[Dietz]

...love means knowing what the other person wants or needs even before they do...

... and surprising them with it, that's something that comes with time, but even in a relationship's infancy, to pick up on the "little things" that your partner likes and giving them little gifts for no special occasion other than just to show you care...

[Ga_Gamecock]

Love means having to check out the "buying new sheets" thread more often. Remember, sex is only dirty when it is done right!

what are you trying to say yancey? hahaha

[Slacker USC]

Love means having to check out the "buying new sheets" thread more often. Remember, sex is only dirty when it is done right!

:woo:

For me, love is coming home from work and finding out my gf did my laundry, and all my boxers are neatly folded and put away, and all my black socks are matched and folded. :bow:


I wouldn't even ask her to do stuff like that, but she does it anyway, and I love her even more for it.

[SNEEZ]

...giving them little gifts for no special occasion other than just to show you care...

To some.

this little "gift thing" is THE MOST ANNOYING THING IN THE WORLD

don't give me things, b/c if you aren't sure if I'll like it I probably won't.
if I want something I will ask you, I play no games and expect none played in return

Love is brutal honesty to the point it very well can and often does hurt, without fear of tears, retribution and anger.
When you are comfortable w/ the person to tell them yes they look terrible or whatever and know they will not whine, or be self-concious or anything. just strip it off an change and then tell yuo thank you.

thats the power of love.

VERY few women posses the ability to be told the truth or criticized and NOT fall to pieces:-x

[ColaCock]

For me, love is coming home from work and finding out my gf did my laundry, and all my boxers are neatly folded and put away, and all my black socks are matched and folded.

I wouldn't even ask her to do stuff like that, but she does it anyway, and I love her even more for it.

Man that is what I'm talking about! The little things like that stand out the most...because to be frank, most women won't do shit like that anymore these days. Hell, 3/4 of them don't know how to cook. When I feel at my highest with my girl or when I really stop to think and say "damn, that girl is something awesome" is when I walk in after work at my place (we don't live together, but stay many nights together) and everything is nice and neat...and NOT how it was the night before. Its vacuumed and clothes are folded, etc etc. She doesn't have to do that at all...but does it really get noticed? Hell yeah it does.

Plus she doesn't bitch or whine like 90% of girls (and if you think you aren't one of them, chances are you really are- trust me) and probably has the highest good mood/bad mood ratio of any girl I knew...very rarely does she complain, have anything negative to say, or is irritable. She just has a really good heart and it is very rare these days. I have dated girls in the past who would use their period JUST as a reason to be bitchy...now I realize that was another part of their game.

Its all a give and take thing...and not even noticing when you do the giving, it just comes natural.

Tickets to see George Jones in July really help sometimes, too.
:thumbsup:

[The Dude]

love is wanting to do things you normally wouldnt find yourself doing, only because you know your partner enjoys them

and no, im not talking about dirty things people LOL

I'm talking about when my wife watches the presidential debates with me, even though she finds them incredibly boring, or when i watch one of her shows with her, even though i cant stand lifetime...

[ColaCock]

I'm talking about when my wife watches the presidential debates with me, even though she finds them incredibly boring, or when i watch one of her shows with her, even though i cant stand lifetime...

Interesting you say that because I have gotten my girl into politics ever since we have been dating. Before, she didn't even know the commonly perceived differences between a Rep and a Dem...didn't know which candidates were with each party. But she would watch the debates with me as well and now is pretty knowledgeable and likes watching them...so you start to learn more about each other and from each other if you give it a try. Now, I don't think I will EVER like watching SATC with her...but I do try it in hopes that she will find a show that I will enjoy.

Also, I have her HOOKED like crack to Family Guy.

[The Dude]

^yeah, the wifey is definitely more attentive to political/current event issues, but she still doesnt like watching the debates...she'd rather just read the synopsis the next day
LOL

[GotSpurrier82]

There's family love, friend love, pet love, love love, sex love, lust love. All different but the same basic emotion. All have the ability to rip your heart out as well. Good times.

[Click]

Love for me is hard to put into words. I've only trully been in love twice in my life, once while at USC, another was in the last couple of years, and both ripped my heart out. To me its a connection that you don't have with anybody else... a closeness that's just hard to describe. Right now I'm not sure if I ever want to feel that for anybody again.

[TKE226]

Love is having my wife cut me a piece of cake while I go through the new posts on Cocky Babes and her not caring.

that was good cake.

[TKE226]

But to be serious for a minute...and just a minute..at this point, I would say love is not taking anything he/she does for granted and doing things for that person out of the goodness of your heart.

[morgan n' 7]

There is so much love in this thread.

[Dietz]

To some.

this little "gift thing" is THE MOST ANNOYING THING IN THE WORLD

don't give me things, b/c if you aren't sure if I'll like it I probably won't.
if I want something I will ask you, I play no games and expect none played in return

Love is brutal honesty to the point it very well can and often does hurt, without fear of tears, retribution and anger.
When you are comfortable w/ the person to tell them yes they look terrible or whatever and know they will not whine, or be self-concious or anything. just strip it off an change and then tell yuo thank you.

thats the power of love.

VERY few women posses the ability to be told the truth or criticized and NOT fall to pieces:-xmaybe I should clarify...

...when I say "gift", I didn't mean the KIND YOU BUY...

...I think Slacker picked up on it in post #6, having your girl do your laundry etc. is a "gift" that shows him how much his girl loves him...

...reciprocal acts of love are the "gifts" I was referring to

[cack]

There is so much love in this thread.

insert Hadaway song ... WHAT IS LOVE

[SNEEZ]

maybe I should clarify...

...when I say "gift", I didn't mean the KIND YOU BUY...

...I think Slacker picked up on it in post #6, having your girl do your laundry etc. is a "gift" that shows him how much his girl loves him...

...reciprocal acts of love are the "gifts" I was referring to

no no no, I understood your meaning. thats why I said "gift things"
even acts of love to me are pointless, why should you do something out of the ordinary. BE yourself and be treating like yourself, thats love

[Spurticus]

I think with the divorce rate being as high as it is, and the number of times couples unsually spend seeking the companionship of other partners outside their relationships, describing it easier than actually achieving it.

[The Dude]

even acts of love to me are pointless, why should you do something out of the ordinary. BE yourself and be treating like yourself, thats love

Your sentence seems contradicting...acts of love should NOT be out of the ordinary...but they also arent pointless

I feel very sorry for anyone who thinks acts of love are pointless. It truly is a sad time we live in.

[Cuck Flemson]

Group Hug

[ColaCock]

no no no, I understood your meaning. thats why I said "gift things"
even acts of love to me are pointless, why should you do something out of the ordinary. BE yourself and be treating like yourself, thats love

wow. i bet you date the same type of girls over and over. that is no way to live bro...you need to let loose and grow up. you have trust issues, that is obvious, but i think you should work on getting back to a healthier image of what you see and want for relationships.

[RockyTopGirl]

You cannot really give a true definition of love because for each person it is truly different but to me love is in all of these things....

caring for someone enough that you would give your life for them,
Loving someone with all thier flaws and in all there imperfect ways,
doing "little acts of kindness"

and here is a quote that describes the best definition of true love....
'Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds. It is an ever fixed mark that looks on tempests and is never shaken. Love alters not with time's brief hours and weeks, but bears it out even to the edge of doom’.

This is so true, Love does not waiver or change when things get tough, true love sticks it out, even in the hardest of times, if you have true love you can make it through anything becasue love isnt this perfect fairy tale life that never knows any pain, but instead, its 2 souls facing the pain and dimenishing it together.

[RockyTopGirl]

i think alot of times you feel love and you think its real and true until one day you realize that what you felt back then was nothing to what you feel now..... for example i have truly thought i was in love twice before, one was with a guy that i was with for a while and a after a while it just became a routine and i was comfortable with him, i didnt want change so i made myself believe it was love....


the other was with a guy who had been a huge part of my life for 7 years, i had alot of time and energy invested into him and into our one again, off again relaitonship, I did love him with all my heart and soul, and i always will, the problem with him was that, we didnt seem to love each other in the tough times, and you have to love through it all just like i said in that quote, me and him had this great idea of falling back in love after all this time and we thought it was going to be so easy and perfect, and it wasent, the truth is, we were never good at loving each other, we were much better as friends, but to this day i still love him as a best friend with all my heart and soul, sadly we dont even talk anymore.....

but the point im trying to make is, one day someone is going to walk into your life, and reguardless of how many times you felt it before, reguardless of how many times you thought this was it, one day someone is going to come along and blow your mind, and everything you thought was love before, is completely different now, like i said i thought i had true love before, it wasent til i met my current boyfriend, that i really learned what love is, Reguardless of how much i cared for others, the love i have for him exceeds that by so much, and i can look back on the past relsitonships and see know what was different and what makes this so different, its like when you find the one you are going to marry and spend your life with, reguardless of what you felt before in past relationships, when you that one, it is like WOW.... words cant even describe it, but the difference is amazing, for anyone who had been so fortunate to find their soulmate like i have, then you know what im talking about, for others, just continue to love unconditonally life is to short not too love and just wait patiently, becasue when you are patient, God will bring that one person into your life that was meant for you.


ok i had alot to say.... but im done now... Love is the hardest thing to put into words but i feel as if i have explained it in the best way I know how

[SNEEZ]

Your sentence seems contradicting...acts of love should NOT be out of the ordinary...but they also arent pointless

I feel very sorry for anyone who thinks acts of love are pointless. It truly is a sad time we live in.

I just dont think that to show love you do anything out of the day to day, that is why Vday is the MOST ridiculous day ever. you dont get her something they usually fall to pieces. meaning that the other 364 days don't mean squat!

I am a real believer in instinct, that initial gut-feeling, that most people convince themselves to ignore. sadly I was one of those and I've learned this lesson the hard way.

I feel sorry for those who "follow the heart", as that normally leads to pain and anger. and continue to believe that you can be close after causing or being caused pain is foolish.
Those that believe love will endure, honestly, this is a romantic sentiment, but I promise you one thing. with a large majority of marriages failing, love sure aint what it used to be.

but...To each his own.

[Love Boat Captain]

nm

[GotSpurrier82]

There is so much love in this thread.

I'm not just saying this 'cuz I'm drunk, but I love you guys.

P.S. I'm not drunk.

[Gamecock_Aholic]

L is for the way you look, at me... O is fo...never mind

[The Dude]

I just dont think that to show love you do anything out of the day to day

I'm saying that, if a person is truly in love, then they will WANT to do things like this for their significant other...now whether they do them enough so that they are considered "normal", vs. something that is "anything out of the day to day" is debating semantics

The desire to do something special for your significant other should supercede any selfish feelings, such as "why should I need to do anything special...I'm already nice to the person"

[SNEEZ]

I'm saying that, if a person is truly in love, then they will WANT to do things like this for their significant other...now whether they do them enough so that they are considered "normal", vs. something that is "anything out of the day to day" is debating semantics

The desire to do something special for your significant other should supercede any selfish feelings, such as "why should I need to do anything special...I'm already nice to the person"

ah I see what our problem.

I'm not saying I don't do them, I do when I feel it is warranted, special occasions etc, rough day etc

i'm saying it from the recieving standpoint! lol
I hate those little thoughtful things, I just want someone to be themselves and NOT GIVE ME CRAP I DONT' WANT OR NEED.

if I want it, I'll ask for it!!
:lol:

[crevil3lf]

I feel sorry for those who "follow the heart", as that normally leads to pain and anger. and continue to believe that you can be close after causing or being caused pain is foolish.


I don't feel this is true for everyone. I know I'm young but my parents split up about 7 years ago and the dated other people and when they decided to go out for my birthday last year they got back together and have been happy ever since. I think that it is possible to love someone even if they have hurt you. I believe if its really meant to be then you will always find a way to be together and for them it was meant to be. I'm not sure how common this is but I do know that the girl who recently broke my heart could win me over again in a fews years if thats what she wanted. So I agree with what you're saying some what I just dont think its true in all circumstances!

[SNEEZ]

I don't feel this is true for everyone. I know I'm young but my parents split up about 7 years ago and the dated other people and when they decided to go out for my birthday last year they got back together and have been happy ever since. I think that it is possible to love someone even if they have hurt you. I believe if its really meant to be then you will always find a way to be together and for them it was meant to be. I'm not sure how common this is but I do know that the girl who recently broke my heart could win me over again in a fews years if thats what she wanted. So I agree with what you're saying some what I just dont think its true in all circumstances!

it very common, and sadly even more common to end in failure and pain.

I am only 24, but i've had more heartbreak in my life already than most have had in a lifetime.

fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me

[ColaCock]

I am only 24, but i've had more heartbreak in my life already than most have had in a lifetime.

And you and crevil are actually in the same mindset. You think you've had it bad...but you are only 24. I've been through some rough shit as well (I'd like to challenge you on yours) but I am with someone great now, and I know it...I REALLY know it. It took me awhile to get where I am at, had to realize a lot of things, accept some things I didn't want to, move forward when I wated to stand still, and step back and look at who I was at certain points in my life. Anywhere from 5-10 years from now you will look back at that mindset you have and laugh realizing how silly it was to say such a thing.

Just like crevil...he says in years to come he knows that person could have him back. What foolishness to say that. I don't want to come off rude for saying that crevil, please make no mistake, but you are YOUNG and have no clue what your future holds. In a couple years out of the blue you could run into someone that makes you really realize that what you once had was nothing in comparison. The things you thought will all fade away and your happiness with that person won't allow you to sulk or even wonder of what could have been with that person. Sure, you might think about them from time to time...but you will KNOW inside that things are for the best and you wouldn't have them any other way.

Just remember guys (and gals) it takes a lot of rainy days to really appreciate a sunny one. Write that down.

[The Dude]

In a couple years out of the blue you could run into someone that makes you really realize that what you once had was nothing in comparison. The things you thought will all fade away and your happiness with that person won't allow you to sulk or even wonder of what could have been with that person. Sure, you might think about them from time to time...but you will KNOW inside that things are for the best and you wouldn't have them any other way.

Just remember guys (and gals) it takes a lot of rainy days to really appreciate a sunny one. Write that down.

Damn skippy!
I can attest to this as well...and I'm on the verge of 25!
:lol:

[SNEEZ]

I won't speak of my hard times, b/c they are not solely in relationships that have developed my mindset. However I did the whole failed relatinoship and got back together: First time, she swore she changed, she was still a tramp. Second time, got back together with another, and her friend informed me id been lied to for months. There will NOT be a third.
I consider neither of them even a friend now, i dont' befriend those I can't trust.
if you continue to loan your heart out and it continues being scarred, eventually you will inadvertantly build a wall that you can not surpass and have no way around.

[SNEEZ]

Just remember guys (and gals) it takes a lot of rainy days to really appreciate a sunny one. Write that down.

The foolish hope to hurry the sun. The wise learn from and study the rain.

To appreciate the good times you have to endure, learn from and cherish the bad. If you wish the bad was over then you are merely hoping for an immediate fix. if you cherish and acclimate yourself to the bad times then when the good times come around you will not be tempted by an okay scenario, you will settle for nothing less than the best there is.

[cack]

are we really arguing over ... love ...

[The Dude]

are we really arguing over ... love ...

ironic, isnt it?
:lol:

This is where the music, and message, of the Beatles is so incredible...

Maybe I'm an idealist...but I think its true (as cliche as it has become)- all you need is love.

[SNEEZ]

I resign.

lol

I just can not get past this majority surealist viewpoint that love will overcome all.

[The Dude]

I resign.

lol

I just can not get past this majority surealist viewpoint that love will overcome all.

surealist, buddhist, Christian, call it what you will...but its a dominating theme across different groups.

[SNEEZ]

hence the "world unity" in love we experience?

[The Dude]

hence the "world unity" in love we experience?

Alas...people are tragically flawed.
But just because we are inherently flawed, does not mean we should give up on striving towards loving each other.

[ColaCock]

The foolish hope to hurry the sun. The wise learn from and study the rain.

To appreciate the good times you have to endure, learn from and cherish the bad. If you wish the bad was over then you are merely hoping for an immediate fix. if you cherish and acclimate yourself to the bad times then when the good times come around you will not be tempted by an okay scenario, you will settle for nothing less than the best there is.

You just proved my point...and translated the quote I gave. You have to endure, learn from, and appreciate those rainy days before that sunny day comes...and you will certainly REALIZE how great the sunshine is.

[ColaCock]

However I did the whole failed relatinoship and got back together: First time, she swore she changed, she was still a tramp. Second time, got back together with another, and her friend informed me id been lied to for months. There will NOT be a third.

Ever considered the fact that maybe you keep going for the wrong type girls? Maybe you should try a different pasture. If you keep getting tramps...most likely, you are hanging out and finding pleasure among tramps.

I consider neither of them even a friend now, i dont' befriend those I can't trust. if you continue to loan your heart out and it continues being scarred, eventually you will inadvertantly build a wall that you can not surpass and have no way around.

Well only you can build that wall and only you can create your path for your relationships that ultimately determine your life. There is nothing wrong with second guessing...in fact, it helps a lot to build back up trust. I've had to do it myself. Trusting someone 100% is a tough thing to do...but in the end, what do you have to lose? You can always get over it...whether you think so at the time or not. And I always go balls to the wall no matter what I do...I don't care if its playing hopskotch, shooting marbles, or dating someone.

[SNEEZ]

Ever considered the fact that maybe you keep going for the wrong type girls? Maybe you should try a different pasture. If you keep getting tramps...most likely, you are hanging out and finding pleasure among tramps.

#1 complete opposites, looks personality, attitude, lifestyle everything.

Anyways, y'alls view of love is it will overcome.

Mine is love is not something that will solve itself. it takes work and understanding.

but sometimes even love isn't worth the amount of pain and work involved

[Dietz]

ironic, isnt it?
:lol:

This is where the music, and message, of the Beatles is so incredible...

Maybe I'm an idealist...but I think its true (as cliche as it has become)- all you need is love.or to quote Lenny Kravitz...

"YOU GOT TA LET LOVE RULE!!!"

[SNEEZ]

Letting love rule is like sticking you d*** in and out of a weedeater string at high RPM

its not IF you get broke...its WHEN

[Dietz]

quit looking for love in the wrong places my friend, and DON'T disparage it for the rest of us...

...drunk, cigarette smelling bar whores (not that those are the type you go for, I used to go for those types when I was your age but found it to be a dead end street as far as relationships go) are not the kind you can trust or even BEGIN to think about having a relationship, marriage or family with...

[The Dude]

I've never said love doesnt take hard work and dedication...OF COURSE IT DOES!

But, if its true love, the hard work that goes in wont even compare to the rewards that come from it.

[Spur]

Letting love rule is like sticking you d*** in and out of a weedeater string at high RPM

its not IF you get broke...its WHEN

Um, right

[SNEEZ]

lol

[crevil3lf]

Just like crevil...he says in years to come he knows that person could have him back. What foolishness to say that. I don't want to come off rude for saying that crevil, please make no mistake, but you are YOUNG and have no clue what your future holds.

I agree I am VERY young and I know patience and hard work is what will carry me through life. However I also don't hold grudges its true that I may see, her which I will saterday be forced too, and not want to have anything to do with her I just doubt it because I won't decide to just completly be over her until someone else is in my life. I don't want to date her now nor do I really want to talk. But I was saying IF the day comes across and we meet back up I think there is a chance she could win my heart again. Unless of course like I said I have someone else that is REALLY special to me.

I hate to say it guys but I'm agreeing with SNEEZ on this one. Every love that is shared gets betrayed or hurt in some way. It doesnt matter how healthy it is. To say love can endure anything honestly wouldnt be true.

[The Dude]

To say love can endure anything honestly wouldnt be true.

wow...you must be some sort of savant, to have the "love" completely figured out at such a young age, yet throughout all of history, we have some of the most brilliant minds tell us much more in depth, thought-provoking truths about love that just dont seem to coincide with your endless wisdom.

It must really suck to have lost all hope in love at such a young age. I really do feel sorry for you.

[Dietz]

To say love can endure anything honestly wouldnt be true.dont tell that to my parents, 63 years of marriage and counting, and yes, they still hold hands and kiss...(but thats about it, lol)

...but your right though, infidelity is one thing love MAY not endure, but then I would argue, was there really love there to begin with?

[SNEEZ]

Every love that is shared gets betrayed or hurt in some way. It doesnt matter how healthy it is. To say love can endure anything honestly wouldnt be true.

Thats all I'm saying. damn.

lol

LOVE IS A COLD BEER ON A HOT DAY!:woo:

[crevil3lf]

dont tell that to my parents, 63 years of marriage and counting, and yes, they still hold hands and kiss...(but thats about it, lol)

...but your right though, infidelity is one thing love MAY not endure, but then I would argue, was there really love there to begin with?

But what we're saying is in 63 years I bet your parents have said very hurtful things that almost made them want to leave each other. Or thats all I'm saying. They chose to stay together you could argue love or gut feeling.


Oh and very strange my ex just messaged me on myspace:thumbs:

[SNEEZ]

you talk about em and they show up...never fails!

[Dietz]

But what we're saying is in 63 years I bet your parents have said very hurtful things that almost made them want to leave each other. Or thats all I'm saying. They chose to stay together you could argue love or gut feeling.


Oh and very strange my ex just messaged me on myspace:thumbs:
...NO ONE ever said love was easy, and dont presume to know ANYTHING about my parents...

...what kills me is we have a 19 and a 23 year old acting like they know what the hell theyre talking about, lol...

...I was getting my heart broken while you all were swimming around in your daddy's balls, go drink some beer and play some x-box, better yet, go out and actually TRY to have a meaningful relationship that's giving and unconditional, do that about 10 or 30 times til you get it right, then we'll talk...

...by the way if you DONT WANT LOVE you'll NEVER find it, it's a sacrifice...

...clearly you have other things in your lives that supercede relationships, so shut up about it already

[ColaCock]

your 19 kid, I rest my case, your generation considers EVERYTHING disposable, people, relationships, your to lazy and or selfish to try to work at anything, it's all immediate gratification, dont even waste your time taking about what you think love is, and dont presume you know what my parents did or did not do...

...a cold beer on hot day? pretty damn shallow...

...I'm done with this..

Its not an age thing Dietz, its a thing of maturity and willpower...some just don't get it or refuse to, and I feel sorry for them honestly.

[crevil3lf]

your 19 kid, I rest my case, your generation considers EVERYTHING disposable, people, relationships, your to lazy and or selfish to try to work at anything, it's all immediate gratification, dont even waste your time taking about what you think love is, and dont presume you know what my parents did or did not do...

...a cold beer on hot day? pretty damn shallow...

...I'm done with this..

Um dont talk to me like you know me you dont know what I have done and or been through and I already admitted to being young but I'm not the take it and get rid of it when I'm done type so dont tell me I do or dont work at anything.

And I'm not going to "presume" anything I'm telling you they have thought about it at least once.

[Dietz]

Its not an age thing Dietz, its a thing of maturity and willpower...some just don't get it or refuse to, and I feel sorry for them honestly.I think it's more a sage thing than an age thing, but anyway, you are right, there are exceptions to every rule...

..I just know, personally at 19, 23, or hell even 30, I was no where near ready for the commitment, I'm talkin' MARRIAGE, not just dating or living together...

[Dietz]

Um dont talk to me like you know me you dont know what I have done and or been through and I already admitted to being young but I'm not the take it and get rid of it when I'm done type so dont tell me I do or dont work at anything.

And I'm not going to "presume" anything I'm telling you they have thought about it at least once.you are presuming...

...just because you fight with your spouse doesnt mean you want to leave them...

...you dont go into a marriage with someone and expect things to be rosy 24/7...

...and no I dont KNOW YOU, and now that Ive had a chance to hear you speak, Im glad I dont

[crevil3lf]

you are presuming...

...just because you fight with your spouse doesnt mean you want to leave them...

...you dont go into a marriage with someone and expect things to be rosy 24/7...

...and no I dont KNOW YOU, and now that Ive had a chance to hear you speak, Im glad I dont

Ok it crosses everyones mind for a split second I dont care how perfect it is and i know its not "rosy" but for you to blow off the handle and tell me I get instant gratification just because technology is better than what you had is pretty childish.

But whatever love is always changing and you're right I don't know what love is. So forgive me for making presumptions about your family and what not.:thumbsup:

[SNEEZ]

I wondered how long it would be before the "you're young and don't know squat" would come into play.

granted you live and learn.

but being older doesn't make you wiser. Nor does it allow you insight into others relationships, I daresay some people are more experienced in a variety of relationships than older people. That being said every situation is different. I dont judge you and your decisions, just like I would expect to not be judged in return.

Earlier someone commented on my beliefs,and I began to elaborate employing my skills:
sarcasm and exageration

[Sarcasm]
so as far as talkign to you like you are "** year old" I couldn't possibly, b/c I didn't know how old you were.
[/End Sarcasm]

all aside, I'm not sure where you are taking all of this as a challenge saying I hate people in relationships? I don't, you seem to be the one taking offense at this conversation.
granted, I have made my views clear as have you, but to call me out and claim i hate people in working relationships is Childish.

[Dietz]

I apologize for assuming you are not wise for your age, thank you for not making presumptions about my family...

...and yes, when I was growing up, our first tv was (gasp) black and white

[Dietz]

fair enough SNEEZ, it was indeed childish...

...I've had a shit day and was kinda venting, so to you I apologize as well

[SNEEZ]

quit looking for love in the wrong places my friend, and DON'T disparage it for the rest of us...

...drunk, cigarette smelling bar whores (not that those are the type you go for, I used to go for those types when I was your age but found it to be a dead end street as far as relationships go) are not the kind you can trust or even BEGIN to think about having a relationship, marriage or family with...

honestly, thats a problem i have never had. High class, I leave the railer trash for others, thats not my style and yes available female smokers to me, especially recently, are classified as the trash category as far as my interests are concerned

I actually have standards at my ripe age of 24, so i guess nowadays "young and dumb" aint so "young and dumb"
:thumbsup:

[SNEEZ]

fair enough SNEEZ, it was indeed childish...

...I've had a shit day and was kinda venting, so to you I apologize as well

aw, you too big guy!!8-) :lol:

i don't take offense hardly ever
but I figure it'd better either escalate or terminate before we lose the thread...lol

[Dietz]

again, I apologize for my childish, presumptuous comments...

[SNEEZ]

apology unecessary, but accepted, if i said anything rude, obscene, or offensive make sure I get credited! LMAO

that way i can be on the news and spread the new school of Love!

[Dietz]

I vote escalate, you young punks dont know JACK sh*t! lol...

...ok, I'm gettin' tired, as I am an old fart, SNEEZ, crevil, have a good un!

[crevil3lf]

again, I apologize for my childish, presumptuous comments...

Hey man its all good I would be mad if someone was trying to tell me about my parents too! We're all gamecocks and friends here man!:thumbsup:

[The Dude]

dont you just feel the love...
lol

[SNEEZ]

:lol:

[TheGuitarCock]

You cannot really give a true definition of love because for each person it is truly different but to me love is in all of these things....

caring for someone enough that you would give your life for them,
Loving someone with all thier flaws and in all there imperfect ways,
doing "little acts of kindness"

and here is a quote that describes the best definition of true love....
'Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds. It is an ever fixed mark that looks on tempests and is never shaken. Love alters not with time's brief hours and weeks, but bears it out even to the edge of doom’.

This is so true, Love does not waiver or change when things get tough, true love sticks it out, even in the hardest of times, if you have true love you can make it through anything becasue love isnt this perfect fairy tale life that never knows any pain, but instead, its 2 souls facing the pain and dimenishing it together.

I think she said it best!:bow:

[crevil3lf]

Wow this thread and the girl are confusing thread have been very entertaining but i learned that my ex hurt me so when she talked to me tonight I SENT HER PACKIN'!! I'm ready to move on now more than ever thanks guys!

[SNEEZ]

Wow this thread and the girl are confusing thread have been very entertaining but i learned that my ex hurt me so when she talked to me tonight I SENT HER PACKIN'!! I'm ready to move on now more than ever thanks guys!


:woo:
one more male soul converted to the New School of Love!!
"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

:thumbsup:

[crevil3lf]

:woo:
one more male soul converted to the New School of Love!!
"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

:thumbsup:

That and patience is key! I dont need to find happiness I need to let hapiness find me!

[SNEEZ]

That and patience is key! I dont need to find happiness I need to let hapiness find me!


oooo. young padawon...much to learn you still have.

you make your own happiness bro, don't adjust your life or pleasures to anyone else. make sure tehy fit into your plan w/o them or you changing.

then you have a chance

[crevil3lf]

very true i need to focus on myself lol thats sort of what i meant from now on if she dont want to fit in my life then she can find another!:rotfl:

I sound like a d***head already:thumbsup:

[SNEEZ]

haha!

naw man. I THINK you've got to know yourself inside and out, and how you will respond to MANY different situations to understand relationship environments. you can't love yourself until you know yourself, just ike you can't love someone until you know someone.

b/c sometimes, the unlucky, find out there were in love with who they thought someone was.

[crevil3lf]

haha!

naw man. I THINK you've got to know yourself inside and out, and how you will respond to MANY different situations to understand relationship environments. you can't love yourself until you know yourself, just ike you can't love someone until you know someone.

b/c sometimes, the unlucky, find out there were in love with who they thought someone was.

Agreed! I wonna meet you at the spring game if you go I think we would get along great! To young for booz though:thumbs:

[SNEEZ]

if you try to hug me, we will fight.:rotfl:

yesh my Jaqi will be there so you can see firsthand how this type of relationship works

[TheGuitarCock]

if you try to hug me, we will fight.:rotfl:

yesh my Jaqi will be there so you can see firsthand how this type of relationship works
?

Beer<Sex<Beer<Sex?:lol:

[crevil3lf]

if you try to hug me, we will fight.:rotfl:

yesh my Jaqi will be there so you can see firsthand how this type of relationship works

Haha nah really i just want people to tailgate with to get used to not having my parents around for when i get there lol:lol:

[SNEEZ]

?

Beer<Sex<Beer<Sex?:lol:

beer=sex or else the sun will never rise again

beer never < Sex
and Sex is never < Beer
:rotfl:

[Cockholio]

Love, or your perception of love can be some painful stuff. I've been critical and somewhat embarrassed for the folks who choose to air out and hurt each other on this site over their failed relationship,(one moreso than the other) but hey, I look back 20 years to when I was 22, and the reality is that I was right there with you. I was as committed and as blind as a young man could be. It was a tremendous blow when it ended, and then the stuff I learned about her afterward poured a lot of coal on the fire of heartbeak. Took a good while to get over, and I basically and drunkenly whored myself out until I met 'the one'. I look back on that failed relationship when I was young and in the words of Garth, "sometimes I thank God for unanswered prayers", is the absolute truth in my case. I thank God things ended when they did.

Love is the root of joy and inner feeling which one cannot truly express with words, imo. Blind love can lead to great sorrow and lowered self-esteem for the naive.

This tune kinda makes me think of one of our poster's that may be able to relate. I sure can with "the more you suffer, the more it shows you really care" lyric. lol. Oh to be young with a young man's perception of love again..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kIZeVoRBuU

[woodscock]

Okay, I am a very shallow person so love is a really good looking woman (naked) a cool beer and all night to enjoy. Oh wait, that's not love, that's lust.

"Just sayin"/Horney Hog

[ColaCock]

I read somewhere their periods attract bears. Bears can smell the menstruation!

[The Dude]

I read somewhere their periods attract bears. Bears can smell the menstruation!

you hear that...BEARS!
Do you want to put the entire news station in danger!?

[GamecockSkip]

She swallows.

[SNEEZ]

http://www.augustadrifting.com/forum/Smileys/default/barfkiss.gif

[SNEEZ]

event ually you can go down the list of ex's, even the ones you remain friends with and not care about them in the least. especially the ones who were disloyal, or liars, or even the ones it just didn't work out with.

You will attain the power to decide whether or not you want to be friendly. You can be nice if you want to, but you can decide to totally ignore them also. You don't need them, you dont' want them, but you can make yourself want them. if that doesn't make sense to you then send a $100 paypal to sneez@yahoo.com

:rotfl:
I'm a king of this!

[carolina80]

I have skimmed through these posts, and some are quite interesting; some I hope are only joking, but whatever...

Love is giving of oneself totally to another, without thought of receiving anything in return. It is being completely vulnerable to hurt, disappointment, and pain, but you love anyway.

Real love depends on the "Enough Factor". Enough--so it's all you think you can stand, yet you still want more. Enough--in that you are secure in what you have, but not so much that you take it for granted, and you are grateful for what you have. Enough--in that you are loving to the max today, but there is room for more love tomorrow. Enough--when you can't describe it in any way, but you know it when you experience it.

Always love "enough"...

[CarolinaGirl82]

I have skimmed through these posts, and some are quite interesting; some I hope are only joking, but whatever...

Love is giving of oneself totally to another, without thought of receiving anything in return. It is being completely vulnerable to hurt, disappointment, and pain, but you love anyway.

Real love depends on the "Enough Factor". Enough--so it's all you think you can stand, yet you still want more. Enough--in that you are secure in what you have, but not so much that you take it for granted, and you are grateful for what you have. Enough--in that you are loving to the max today, but there is room for more love tomorrow. Enough--when you can't describe it in any way, but you know it when you experience it.

Always love "enough"...

You are dead on target with everything you just said. I believe the term "enough" sums it up. You don't need all the fancy talk that you hear some people say. Someone once told me, "I love you passionately, desperately, abundantly, totally, completely, eternally..." This person truly understands what it means to love. When you love someone, you love them with all you have, all that you are and you don't hold anything back. Life is too short to go through life not truly loving someone. To not feel true love is not living. I, myself, have grasped the concept of loving someone "enough." I try my best to show it everyday.

[RockyTopGirl]

I have skimmed through these posts, and some are quite interesting; some I hope are only joking, but whatever...

Love is giving of oneself totally to another, without thought of receiving anything in return. It is being completely vulnerable to hurt, disappointment, and pain, but you love anyway.

Real love depends on the "Enough Factor". Enough--so it's all you think you can stand, yet you still want more. Enough--in that you are secure in what you have, but not so much that you take it for granted, and you are grateful for what you have. Enough--in that you are loving to the max today, but there is room for more love tomorrow. Enough--when you can't describe it in any way, but you know it when you experience it.

Always love "enough"...
very well put..... i totally agree 100% with this and i ahve never heard it put as well......:bow::bow::bow:

[carolina80]

You are dead on target with everything you just said. I believe the term "enough" sums it up. You don't need all the fancy talk that you hear some people say. Someone once told me, "I love you passionately, desperately, abundantly, totally, completely, eternally..." This person truly understands what it means to love. When you love someone, you love them with all you have, all that you are and you don't hold anything back. Life is too short to go through life not truly loving someone. To not feel true love is not living. I, myself, have grasped the concept of loving someone "enough." I try my best to show it everyday.

the person who told you that is an extremely fortunate person, if he is the one you have grasped the "enough" concept with!:bow:

[CoverTwo]

Love is not getting the go-around by some saddity bitch.

Yeah Im having a rough day.

[SNEEZ]

But why do people claim everyone needs to love?

why do people put so much value on an emotion that is used and abused more than any other?

[SNEEZ]

Love is not getting the go-around by some saddity bitch.

Yeah Im having a rough day.

:thumbsup: Pts Sent!

[CarolinaGirl82]

the person who told you that is an extremely fortunate person, if he is the one you have grasped the "enough" concept with!:bow:

Yes, he is the one that I have grasped the "enough" concept with. I believe I am the fortunate/lucky one to have found that "complete love" in him. I tell him everyday that I love him, but those are mere words and yes, it's nice to hear those, but ultimately it's the actions that I take daily that reiterate the fact that my love for him is real and true.

[RockyTopGirl]

Yes, he is the one that I have grasped the "enough" concept with. I believe I am the fortunate/lucky one to have found that "complete love" in him. I tell him everyday that I love him, but those are mere words and yes, it's nice to hear those, but ultimately it's the actions that I take daily that reiterate the fact that my love for him is real and true.
you are absolutly right... actions speak way louder than words, and you are very fortunate to have found the one to grasp the "enough" concept with, ive just found that one as well and its a great thing

[CarolinaGirl82]

you are absolutly right... actions speak way louder than words, and you are very fortunate to have found the one to grasp the "enough" concept with, ive just found that one as well and its a great thing

Points sent your way RTG! We are lucky women :) I hope the best for you and your man!

[SNEEZ]

you may call this cynical...and yes I am highly critical of this "love" issue b/c I don't understand the "need" people seem to have for it.

but its an honest question

how can so many people claim they have that forever kind of love.

year or so later, a new forever kind of love with someone else
how many "forever kinds of love" do people find?
b/c majority of people have at least 2 or three from what i cans ee

[CarolinaGirl82]

you may call this cynical...and yes I am highly critical of this "love" issue b/c I don't understand the "need" people seem to have for it.

but its an honest question

how can so many people claim they have that forever kind of love.

year or so later, a new forever kind of love with someone else
how many "forever kinds of love" do people find?
b/c majority of people have at least 2 or three from what i cans ee

You don't understand it because you've never felt it. It's not something that can be described and it's something that is rare. When you find that person, you'll know what it feels like. I believe alot of people are in love with the idea of love and not in love with the person themselves. They don't fully understand the concept of loving someone "enough." When they can finally comprehend it, then that's when the real forever happens.

[SNEEZ]

What would you consider being in love with the way you thought someone was?

as in you learn things that completely change who they are to you.
I have known true love...twice, until it was betrayed(both times) by the other and changes your entire perception of them
i have no problem talking about it, bc I am devoid of emotion over them, i care nothing for either of them now and that is spoken out of honesty not anger.

b/c one does not show mercy and does not give second chances, and refuse to even speak to them again, to you does that mean it was not true love?

to often people praise the bright side of love, and turn a blind eye to the truth of love. it begs forgiveness and demands attention. it is, imho a seflish emotion.
b/c people say: he/she makes me feel special, etc

[carolina80]

you may call this cynical...and yes I am highly critical of this "love" issue b/c I don't understand the "need" people seem to have for it.

but its an honest question

how can so many people claim they have that forever kind of love.

year or so later, a new forever kind of love with someone else
how many "forever kinds of love" do people find?
b/c majority of people have at least 2 or three from what i cans ee

that's not an easy one to answer...mainly because "life happens"...but if someone goes into a relationship with a "what's in it for me" kind of attitude, failure is almost sure to happen: maybe in a month; could be a year; maybe several years... but if one embarks upon a relationship with an attitude of "what can I do for you" -- a selfless giving approach, it has a much better chance for survival.

Why do we "need" to love? I don't know...maybe some don't...but basically human beings are "wired" toward relating to one another...it just seems to happen naturally

[morgan n' 7]

Rk_0OeYziuA

[carolina80]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[morgan n' 7]

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q6/Tgee3/ferrell.jpg

[SNEEZ]

Neuroscientist Andrew B. Newberg, has performed studies on the activity of those in love and it shows a high resemblance to those brains scanned with a mental illness. The activity is in the same region as hunger, thirst, and drug cravings are active.

"broken hearted" is very similar to being in a rehab program, no appetite, lack of sleep, lack of interest, inability to concentrate or care. its becomes an addiction.

[carolina80]

What would you consider being in love with the way you thought someone was?

as in you learn things that completely change who they are to you.
I have known true love...twice, until it was betrayed(both times) by the other and changes your entire perception of them
i have no problem talking about it, bc I am devoid of emotion over them, i care nothing for either of them now and that is spoken out of honesty not anger.

b/c one does not show mercy and does not give second chances, and refuse to even speak to them again, to you does that mean it was not true love?

to often people praise the bright side of love, and turn a blind eye to the truth of love. it begs forgiveness and demands attention. it is, imho a seflish emotion.
b/c people say: he/she makes me feel special, etc

you raise some good and valid questions, my friend. This is not a perfect world, and life is not always fair.
In my lifetime, I have experienced the euphoria of the good times. I have also endured the heart-rending agony of broken relationships.
I can't give you an easy answer all wrapped up in a nice neat package. I will say that when "the big L" comes your way, you will know it, and the real thing is the most fulfilling experience of your life. We all carry scars of past experience, and it influences the way we react to our present. It's important that we don't let those scars have a negative effect on our future.

[carolina80]

Therapy session over...Good night!:thumbsup:

[SNEEZ]

but if one can control the amount of pain they take away and teh psychological and emotional affects(effects...idk which?) then their heart wasn't fully comitted, so thats not love.

You can't control the scarring that takes place. some people are scarred before we knew what love was, i mena before elementary school by other kids etc and those issues...for want of a better term... stick with them forever.

Bottom line is, the point I've been trying to make in evry thread people try to grasp relationships and definition of the term "love".

Each set of circumstances that involve the behavior, feelings and thought which build the interaction of humans in daily occurrences is defined by the individuals mindset, future goals and past experiences.

My ultimate philospohy and definition:

Love is a fickle variable, one that you can not touch, see, or hold. Love is comparable to the wind, you can feel it and it can affect you, making you either more comfortable or more miserable. The harder you try and grasp it the harder it is to hold, no matter what you do you can not shut it out anymore than you can create it. Love can not be coined as an emotion, an affection, an infliction, or a thought. It is a mindset, b/c you can control whether or not you acknowledge the presence of it. Granted ignorance of the obvious is dangerous but it is also a common practice of those "in love" to ignore the unpleasant truths they may encounter. trying to create a definitions will inadvertantly create limits and boundaries on Love. Defining love is beyond grasp, just like making a feeble attempt to understand other variables, eternity, infinity etc

[The Dude]

True love is not a selfish act, but rather a selfless act.

At least, it is for me...thats how I view my wife.
Its not about me, its about her...and she'll say the same, but vice versa.

[Dietz]

SNEEZ, you were saying the other night that one shouldnt have to change or compromise their being in order to love or to be loved, while you are very correct in saying this, doing so makes it much more difficult to find love...

...I'm in a Christian marriage, Catholic to be exact, and I found I had to change A LOT, actually completely, in order to be with my wife, not necessarily by her rules but by God's...

...I was raised in a Christian family but fell far away from it through most of my adult life, but get this, I wanted to change, I found someone who was willing to love me unconditionally, but I knew what the future held for me, and I knew that in order to live the Catholic life, I needed to be unselfish and become the spiritual leader for the family that my faith required...

...so what seemed like an "easy way out" to find love was one of the most difficult things I've ever done in my life, this is why I feel so passionate about it and became a bit defensive the other night, when I was 25, 30, even 35, I wouldve told you you were crazy if I was going to be where I am today, at that age, the thought of children was repulsive to me, call it a spiritual awakening if you will, but I can't even begin to describe the happiness I have now...

...oh, and the stresses and the arguments are a plenty, but one of the ways we refocus is to remember that we are both charged with the duty of helping each other get to Heaven, which an almost impossible challenge, neither one of us is perfect, nor will we ever be, but that task gives us a responsibility beyond belief...

...the other night is proof that I'm nowhere near perfect, I said some things that wre rude, and thank you for forgiving me for it, I just wanted to be open and honest and give you a little insight on who I am, and I respect your opinions on things and truly understand why you feel the way that you do about love...