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FoghornLeghornCock
02-22-2008, 03:46 PM
Vikings' Williamson allowed to seek trade options

By John Clayton http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3258932
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Updated: February 22, 2008, 1:02 PM ET

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The Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=min) have given wide receiver Troy Williamson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7183) the opportunity to shop himself in a trade, and there appears to be a lot of interest.
According to Williamson's agent, David Canter, 14 teams have been contacted, and eight have shown interest enough to reach out to the Vikings about a possible trade. Canter would like to have a trade agreed upon before Feb. 28, the start of the free agency period.
"He's property of the Minnesota Vikings right now and he's under contract," Vikings coach Brad Childress said. "We have spoken to his agent and he has the opportunity to go out [and seek a trade]."
Williamson was the seventh pick in the 2005 draft and went to Minnesota as part of the Randy Moss (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4262) trade with the Oakland Raiders (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak). He's had three receivers coaches and two head coaches in three seasons with the Vikings. He had 18 catches in 11 games last season.
John Clayton is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.


There still seems to be a lot of interest in Troy I hope he saves his career and gets on with the right team.

usc90grad
02-22-2008, 03:49 PM
I don't see TW having a lot of value to be honest. He's been a bust so far.

FeartheSpur
02-22-2008, 03:58 PM
thats my boy so i am partial, but i think he fits in good with the right system

Will4144
02-22-2008, 04:05 PM
Go to the Cowboys... we need a deep threat to going along with Terrell Owens and Patrick Crayton!

cockybusiness2
02-22-2008, 04:06 PM
Go to the Panthers... Then they could not double Steve Smith

FeartheSpur
02-22-2008, 04:12 PM
i think he wants to go to ATL, JAX, CAR, MIA somewhere closer to home...Indy is the place he has always wanted to be though for obvious reasons.... but now I think he might want to go to CAR or ATL the most

FoghornLeghornCock
02-22-2008, 04:14 PM
Williamson's status still undecided

By JUDD ZULGAD (http://www.startribune.com/bios/10646311.html), Star Tribune http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/15860672.html
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INDIANAPOLIS - The agent for receiver Troy Williamson said Thursday he plans to meet with Vikings officials this weekend at the NFL Scouting Combine. There has been speculation the Vikings might release Williamson.
The seventh overall pick in the 2005 draft, Williamson had career lows in receptions (18) and receiving yards (240) in 11 games this season. Williamson, who has been plagued with dropped passes during his career, failed to hold onto two balls in the regular-season finale at Denver.
Agent David Canter declined to speculate on his upcoming conversation with the Vikings, simply saying, "I will discuss Troy Williamson with them."
Rick Spielman, the Vikings' vice president of player personnel, said the team is "in the talking process," when asked about Williamson's future. "We have no comment on where he's going or what's going to happen to him right now," Spielman said. "There is a lot yet to be determined."
One day after the Vikings released safety Dwight Smith, Spielman left the door open for the team to make more roster moves before free agency starts Feb. 29.
Tough to take Spielman, appearing on Sirius Satellite Radio, described it as a "kick in the gut" when asked about finding out defensive end Kenechi Udeze had been diagnosed with leukemia.
Asked about Udeze's status later by Twin Cities reporters, Spielman said: "I think coach[Brad Childress] has addressed that and the privacy that KU wants. I just know that all the thoughts and prayers from everybody in the organization are with him. He is a fighter on the field, and he'll take that same approach as he fights this next battle in his life. Just leave it at that."
Moving up or ... The Vikings are scheduled to pick 17th in the first round of the draft this April, but Spielman did not dismiss the fact the team might try to deal the pick.
"You never know. We made a couple moves last year [in the draft]," he said. "If an opportunity presents itself you weigh that in with what's on your board. If there's a player up there we may go up and get that guy at 13 or 14. If we think that highly of him and he can be that big of difference maker. If we're stuck at 17 we may try to bail out because I think that overall depth of this draft is pretty good."
Etc. • The Vikings again will host all 30 draft prospects allowed to visit Winter Park on the same day. That will take place in April. Vikings officials spent Thursday evening interviewing players at the combine.
• Spielman on reports the Vikings might be interested in signing quarterback Trent Green, who was recently released by Miami: "I'd rather not say who we are intrigued by and who we are not intrigued by. I'd rather keep that in house."
• Notre Dame tight end John Carlson, who is from Litchfield, spoke with the Vikings on Wednesday. Carlson is attending the combine after missing the Senior Bowl because of what he believes was an intestinal parasite that caused him to lose 17 pounds in eight days.

crowcutta
02-22-2008, 04:16 PM
i thought they would just outright release him but maybe they think they can a late pick for him. troy needs to go to a team with a decent qb that doesnt run the west coast offense

gotrice?
02-22-2008, 04:17 PM
I wish I could say I want him in Buffalo but we already have two WRs in his mold already with Evans and Parrish. The type of WR we need is the 6'4 kind who can go over the middle consistently such as a Malcolm Kelly or Limas Sweed.

KadCock
02-22-2008, 04:29 PM
Why hasn't he been better thus far in his career? Does he lack the work ethic or does his skill set not jive with the Viking's offense? What is it?

FeartheSpur
02-22-2008, 04:36 PM
i think it is the offensive scheme...he is a speedster they cant throw the ball down the field...that is why sidney did so good they throw across the middle so they need a big WR

gotrice?
02-22-2008, 05:04 PM
i thought they would just outright release him but maybe they think they can a late pick for him. troy needs to go to a team with a decent qb that doesnt run the west coast offense

They will be able to pick up a late round pick for him no question. He is a 6'2 WR who can run in the 4.3s. Those are the measurables that you take a chance with a late round pick for no question. Any pick in rounds 5-7 would be a low risk investment with possibly a high reward.

Stillwearingmyjoehat
02-22-2008, 05:26 PM
No one is saying it out loud:

Minnesota got Rice and that made Williamson expendable.

FinchMcCrunkNasty
02-22-2008, 05:37 PM
Patriots might need a deep threat...and they could get him for cheap!

WhyNotUs?
02-22-2008, 05:43 PM
Go to the Panthers... Then they could not double Steve Smith

Definitely... I would love to see ol' Troy back in the Carolinas

brat
02-22-2008, 06:41 PM
He was a WR that might have fared a little better with another year in college, but that can be debated. What can't be debated is that he was drafted much higher than expected and got good money.

With a very young WR, with that kind of pressure, coming from a team (USC) that had QB problems of our own, that isn't exactly the best scenario you can desire to come into the NFL.

My guess would be those things and his discovered vision problems hurt his confidence when things started slowly.

Last off season, he caught somewhere around 14,000 or 15,000 passes trying to improve himself. He had some nice catches, but also had several drops. Anyone can have some, but with his history of it, it gets magnified, especially one when you are open by 10 yards and drop a lollipop right in your hands, so this move shouldn't be a shock. The Viking fans have been merciless on him since the moment he was drafted, so that only increased the pressure on him.

As far as releasing him because they got Rice, I doubt that has anything to do with it. He and Rice are completely different type WR's and it still boils down to TW seldom making big plays or even routine ones. I do agree that their QB's, by and large, had trouble throwing many decent passes and for a youngster struggling with confidence and other problems, well...

The Vikes would love to get anything for him in a trade, because no way would they keep him. I think if he was still on the team this year a big bonus in his contract would have kicked in. You don't want to throw money away on an unproductive WR.

For his sake, I hope he latches on with another team, especially in a situation and city where he can be happy. Often times a change of scenery does wonders for some and a "fresh start" is all he needs to get his confidence in gear. On the down side, even with his speed still in demand, he has to take advantage of his next opportunity or his career may well hang in the balance, because as we all know, speed don't meant squat if the ball ain't caught.

Cockholio
02-22-2008, 07:19 PM
He needs to catch on with a team that has a stable coaching staff. I believe he still has what it takes.

willy
02-22-2008, 07:55 PM
Go to the Panthers... Then they could not double Steve Smith



AMEN. Go get him Panthers.

Spuron
02-22-2008, 07:59 PM
Denver They are in the market for a WR

McNasty
02-22-2008, 08:01 PM
I know Troy had a problem with his eyes last year. they actually sent him to Nike Eye Camp. It apparently didn't help much. If he could fix his hands he'd be a great #2, compliment to Steve Smith, Roddy White, Dwayne Bowe, someone like that.

Also, don't be surprised to see Minnesota make a move for Manningham, Desean Jackson, or even Early Doucet in the draft. This could actually be good for them.

McNasty
02-22-2008, 08:02 PM
Denver They are in the market for a WR

good point, they actually released Javon Walker (who by the way has Tampa looking at him)

FeartheSpur
02-22-2008, 08:02 PM
just got done talking to him...he seemed cool with everything...i probably am going to sell him a house here in a couple of weeks... everything was good with him i think he is looking forward to a new team and is excited about the change

BlackMagicCock
02-22-2008, 08:42 PM
PLEASE DENVER PICK HIM UP!!! I love the broncos but their are 0 gamecocks on the roster, would love to see Dever pick him up now that our WR corp has taken some hits this off season. Go Get'Em Broncos

usc90grad
02-22-2008, 08:44 PM
just got done talking to him...he seemed cool with everything...i probably am going to sell him a house here in a couple of weeks... everything was good with him i think he is looking forward to a new team and is excited about the change

What would he have made with the Vikings this year...any idea?

FeartheSpur
02-22-2008, 08:48 PM
each year it goes up a significant amount...he signed for 7 years i forget what it was

Luke Skycocker
02-22-2008, 09:10 PM
i like him on the vikings. it almost ensures that a gamecock wr will gets some good touches each week

kre25
02-22-2008, 11:57 PM
Why hasn't he been better thus far in his career? Does he lack the work ethic or does his skill set not jive with the Viking's offense? What is it?

I am a Vikings Fan!!
I like Sydney Rice!!!


Troy Williamson can't CATCH the Football!

FoghornLeghornCock
02-23-2008, 09:16 AM
I think it is best for Troy to go somewhere else. I did not get to see that many Vikings games, but those I did I saw a QB that was also very inconsistent and sometimes inaccurate. The Falcons had a team where few of our players could catch the ball thrown by Mike Vick. When other QBs started this problem seemed to go away. We found out Roddy White who many labeled as a bust and had a hard time catching the ball was actually a pretty good receiver. This past year Roddy had 83 catches for 1202 yards. I am not going to say it was on the QB, but who knows maybe if Troy gets hooked up with the right QB all of a sudden he becomes a much better receiver like Roddy White did. Troy should hope the Vikings cut him so he gets to pick the team and QB that he feels suits his talents. I hope Troy does not go to the TN Titans where you have another QB who has problems hitting receivers. Maybe TN would be a good team for say a Keyshaun Johnson to hook up with just as Rice will help this young Minnesota QB because we all know Rice has great hands and can catch badly thrown balls. Maybe GMs need to do a better job picking receivers who match the type of ball their QB throws.

WayzUp
02-23-2008, 10:40 AM
Troy Williamson can't CATCH the Football!
I think he had two drops last season but of course one of those was a sure TD so the stigma remains strong. I'm not saying he's sure-handed by NFL standards but he caught most of the (few) catchable balls thrown in his direction. Look who he's had at QB too....Brad Johnson? Tavaris Jackson? C'mon....

Williamson is the very definition of a player who needs a change in scenery, a clean slate and a fresh start before he's written off as a bust. Get him in the right role in the right offense with the right kind of stability and who knows what can happen. There are a number of teams he could help out immediately...St. Louis, Dallas, Denver....

vegasmark
02-23-2008, 12:17 PM
is there any chance he could come back to Carolina and complete his final year of eligibility? It would be nice to have him and McKinley at wideout.

CoverTwo
02-23-2008, 01:06 PM
He cant catch. It doesnt matter what team he is on.

McNasty
02-23-2008, 03:59 PM
He cant catch. It doesnt matter what team he is on.

i'm really hoping he has randy moss syndrome. you know, cant catch a thing but he gets traded to a good team and lights it up like he's expected to. it might just be psychological. i just hope he doesn't go to the pats. maybe 2 years in carolina will do him well, working with smith. but, if it doesn't we'd be stuck with 6 hands that cant do anything (carter and colbert too). i'm hoping for the best for him though, 100%.

Slacker USC
02-25-2008, 11:48 AM
is there any chance he could come back to Carolina and complete his final year of eligibility? It would be nice to have him and McKinley at wideout.

:rotfl: :lol:

sc455
02-25-2008, 11:54 AM
why would anyone want him? he cant catch a cold. i know he made the jack but he needed one more year in college

sc455
02-25-2008, 11:57 AM
just got done talking to him...he seemed cool with everything...i probably am going to sell him a house here in a couple of weeks... everything was good with him i think he is looking forward to a new team and is excited about the change yeah, he was cool when i hung out with him on friday. we went to a few places and just kicked it.

carolina fan
02-25-2008, 12:28 PM
for the people who say he cant catch..i dont remember him dropping any balls at usc, i DO remember him making an awesome game winning catch against kentucky. i dont know whats going on with the vikes but they need a new QB and a line that blocks..

FeartheSpur
02-25-2008, 12:39 PM
yeah, he was cool when i hung out with him on friday. we went to a few places and just kicked it.

how you gonna talk crap about somebody, then say you hund out with him friday?

FeartheSpur
02-25-2008, 12:42 PM
I think he had two drops last season but of course one of those was a sure TD so the stigma remains strong. I'm not saying he's sure-handed by NFL standards but he caught most of the (few) catchable balls thrown in his direction. Look who he's had at QB too....Brad Johnson? Tavaris Jackson? C'mon....

Williamson is the very definition of a player who needs a change in scenery, a clean slate and a fresh start before he's written off as a bust. Get him in the right role in the right offense with the right kind of stability and who knows what can happen. There are a number of teams he could help out immediately...St. Louis, Dallas, Denver....


I forgot about ST Louis they need a WR....he could hook back up with Corey Chavous..Corey might be able to help him out some he has a hell of a work ethic

CoverTwo
02-25-2008, 01:04 PM
for the people who say he cant catch..i dont remember him dropping any balls at usc, i DO remember him making an awesome game winning catch against kentucky. i dont know whats going on with the vikes but they need a new QB and a line that blocks..

He had his fair share of drops his first 2 seasons here.

FeartheSpur
02-25-2008, 01:06 PM
he had one big drop against clemson at clemson when he had all the yards....

Coondog
02-25-2008, 02:39 PM
All I know is that if I was a WR on a team that had just drafted Sydney Rice I would want to be traded to. That boy can just flat out play football and mark my words that he will be an all pro bowl WR in no time at all.

FeartheSpur
02-25-2008, 05:10 PM
News: The Jaguars are among the teams interested in trading for Williamson, according to the Florida Times-Union.
Impact: If the Jags made a trade, it would probably be before the start of free agency on Thursday. The Jags are notoriously thin at wide receiver, so Williamson would almost immediately assume a starting role with the Jags if he lands there. (RotoWire (http://www.rotowire.com/users/ad_jump.asp?id=700) - Sat. Feb 23, 2008)

CoverTwo
02-25-2008, 07:09 PM
The Jags do need a speedster to go with the trees they have at WR..It would be a good fit.

JaxcockFL
02-25-2008, 10:04 PM
The Jags don't need another project at WR.

JaxcockFL
02-25-2008, 11:03 PM
Oh well. Report has him as going when the new season starts Thursday.

http://vikingsnow.blogspot.com/

Flameout12
02-26-2008, 09:29 AM
Looks like it's Troy to Jax.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/41234

gvegas07
02-26-2008, 10:08 AM
most jag fans are upset about this but im excited cuz i know what he did for us in college ball. he needs a team like jacksonville to redevelop his skills. Garrard will also throw him the ball a lot easier than the Vikings QB's did.

Rice Rice Baby
02-26-2008, 10:18 AM
hope this trade will help him out, Garrard is def. a great QB

cockybusiness2
02-26-2008, 10:25 AM
Although I live close, I have never really been a Jags fan. I guess I must support them now.

Gamecock Rob
02-26-2008, 10:44 AM
For a 6th round pick. Great trade by the Jags

sc455
02-26-2008, 11:10 AM
how you gonna talk crap about somebody, then say you hund out with him friday? i thought that people would put two and two together when they saw who i quoted. the guy was name dropping like he was his homey. i was just messing. i have never met tw in my life

sc455
02-26-2008, 11:13 AM
for the people who say he cant catch..i dont remember him dropping any balls at usc, i DO remember him making an awesome game winning catch against kentucky. i dont know whats going on with the vikes but they need a new QB and a line that blocks.. its not about what he did here. its about what the vikings paid him millions for. he dropped a ball every time i watched the vikes. change of scenery is what he needs

FeartheSpur
02-26-2008, 11:21 AM
i thought that people would put two and two together when they saw who i quoted. the guy was name dropping like he was his homey. i was just messing. i have never met tw in my life

you quoted me .... that is why i said something...we are very good friends or Homey as you would want to say...I have known Troy since we were 3 or 4 so maybe you need to get your facts straight before you come on here talking crap about someone you dont know....i am just relaying what I know...for some reason some people on this board seem to think that you cant know anybody or anything if you post here ... if you know some much info you must be lying and making it up... sorry i tried to speak on the situation since I probably know about it better than anyone on here

Slacker USC
02-26-2008, 12:04 PM
you quoted me .... that is why i said something...we are very good friends or Homey as you would want to say...I have known Troy since we were 3 or 4 so maybe you need to get your facts straight before you come on here talking crap about someone you dont know....i am just relaying what I know...for some reason some people on this board seem to think that you cant know anybody or anything if you post here ... if you know some much info you must be lying and making it up... sorry i tried to speak on the situation since I probably know about it better than anyone on here

Unfortunately there are plenty of people who BS, and because of that no one really believes those few who claim any sort of insider information.

I posted insider information one time, and was flamed because no one believed me. I wasn't about to burn bridges with my source by revealing him, so I just let it go and don't post about stuff like that any more. Obviously your situation is a bit different, but you just need to take it with a grain of salt. There will always be those who shit on your info, but there are those who'll take you seriously as well... It's just up to you if it's worth it to keep posting it; it wasn't to me.

FeartheSpur
02-26-2008, 12:24 PM
i get what you are saying... I was just trying to relay what he told me and somebody wants to jump all over me...oh well

FeartheSpur
02-26-2008, 01:35 PM
Vikings to deal WR Williamson to Jags for draft pick

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Updated: February 26, 2008, 12:21 PM ET

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Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=min)' last link to the Randy Moss (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4262) trade reportedly will be jettisoned from their roster later this week.


http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/mugs/65x90/8422.jpg Williamson


Though nothing may be officially announced until Friday at midnight ET when the NFL's new league year starts, the Jaguars have all but agreed on a trade with the Vikings for wide receiver Troy Williamson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7183).
Williamson was given permission last week by coach Brad Childress to find a new home via a trade. The Vikings are expected to receive a sixth-round pick for Williamson.
The Jaguars were looking to add speed at receiver, and Williamson is one of the fastest in the league at the position. Going to the Jaguars will allow him to reunite with Mike Tice, the Jaguars assistant who was the head coach in Minnesota when Williamson was drafted.
Williamson was drafted in 2005 with the seventh overall pick, which the Vikings acquired from the Raiders for Moss. Other players which Minnesota acquired for Moss -- linebacker Napoleon Harris (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5909) and cornerback Adrian Ward (picked in the seventh round via a Raiders selection) -- are no longer with the franchise.
Last season, Williamson was fined a game check -- a decision later reversed by the team -- for leaving the team to be with his family in South Carolina after the death of his grandmother, Celestine, to whom he was very close.
Williamson chose to stay at home the entire week and not return for the Vikings' game against the Chargers.
The Vikings wanted him back sooner, though, and docked him one paycheck for his absence, which amounted to more than $25,000 of his $435,000 base salary.
But after veteran players voiced support of Williamson's decision, the team opted to change course.
In 2007, Williamson caught 18 passes for 240 yards and one touchdown. In three NFL seasons, he has caught 79 passes for 1,067 yards and three touchdowns.

sc455
02-26-2008, 01:44 PM
you quoted me .... that is why i said something...we are very good friends or Homey as you would want to say...I have known Troy since we were 3 or 4 so maybe you need to get your facts straight before you come on here talking crap about someone you dont know....i am just relaying what I know...for some reason some people on this board seem to think that you cant know anybody or anything if you post here ... if you know some much info you must be lying and making it up... sorry i tried to speak on the situation since I probably know about it better than anyone on here dude i was absolutely trying to make a joke. sorry.

crowcutta
02-26-2008, 02:12 PM
its hard to believe troy can be that bad at adjusting to balls, i still hope he can get it turned around but you almost think he's seeing double with the way he fights the ball

FinchMcCrunkNasty
02-26-2008, 02:19 PM
Is it a done deal? ESPN was reporting it was for a 2nd round pick, not 6th. Either way...maybe getting out of that dome will help him out. I just honestly think he hated wearing the color purple and wanted the hell outta there...can't blame him at all, I would shoot myself if that was my team color

FeartheSpur
02-26-2008, 02:26 PM
that article came from espn...

superstar90
02-26-2008, 02:30 PM
Didn't he have some issues with his eyes'? I thought he was trying some new lenses last season. I may be wrong, but I'm not sure. Doesn't the Jags throw the WR screen a good bit? If so, that may very well help Troy out a lot.

CoverTwo
02-26-2008, 02:36 PM
I wonder if he had the Lasic (sp?) surgery yet.

I know that Dwayne Bowe (Kansas City's 1st round pick) said that he use to see 3 footballs and guessed on which one to grab..Then he had that surgery and now he is the mainstay of their WR corps.

FeartheSpur
02-26-2008, 02:44 PM
he did some training stuff up in Oregon at the Nike facilities for a while

JaxcockFL
02-26-2008, 06:55 PM
Well, let Troy know that the Jags fans are excited about him, based on their main message board. They are really excited about his speed and are looking forward to seeing him blaze and are excited about his having a second chance.



They would like to see him at PR and KR with MoJo.

usc90grad
02-26-2008, 10:44 PM
Wow....the Vikings only get a 6th round pick??

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3265157

ShutTheSuccop
02-26-2008, 10:47 PM
That could potentially be a steal for the Jags

MDCox
02-26-2008, 11:36 PM
Listen the guy can't catch. I saw him drop at least 2 balls last year and I hardly watched the Vikings. I also remember him dropping at least 2 sure TDs while he was with the Gamecocks and he was completely open. And you know he dropped many more than I have seen.

Regardless, of the drops he can't get open in the NFL. The guy is a speedster for sure, but runs bad routes. But, if you remember he has something wrong with his eyes and does not have good hand eye coordination. He even went to come type of camp to work on the problem. Just face it, he will go down as one of the biggest busts in draft history being he was picked at #7 and paid like 21 million dollars. His talent in the NFL is imaginary so far. I hope he gets it together, but I think he has some physical limitations.

Will4144
02-27-2008, 12:12 AM
Listen the guy can't catch. I saw him drop at least 2 balls last year and I hardly watched the Vikings. I also remember him dropping at least 2 sure TDs while he was with the Gamecocks and he was completely open. And you know he dropped many more than I have seen.

Regardless, of the drops he can't get open in the NFL. The guy is a speedster for sure, but runs bad routes. But, if you remember he has something wrong with his eyes and does not have good hand eye coordination. He even went to come type of camp to work on the problem. Just face it, he will go down as one of the biggest busts in draft history being he was picked at #7 and paid like 21 million dollars. His talent in the NFL is imaginary so far. I hope he gets it together, but I think he has some physical limitations.

But doesn't that sound like he could still make a very good CB?

usc90grad
02-27-2008, 10:42 AM
The 7th pick in the 2005 draft for a 6th round draft pick. Wow....they don't think much of Troy in Minnesota. Jacksonville probably could have given a pack of gum and still got him.

FeartheSpur
02-27-2008, 10:54 AM
they wanted him out of minnesota...wasnt moss traded for a 4th round pick last year? they do this so they can move the salary not have to pay most of it...jags pick up that part and minnesota gets something out of it instead of just cutting troy and paying him a bunch of money

hardcock2
02-27-2008, 11:04 AM
The 7th pick in the 2005 draft for a 6th round draft pick. Wow....they don't think much of Troy in Minnesota. Jacksonville probably could have given a pack of gum and still got him.

Can you honestly blame them. He definitely hasn't lived up to his hype....and I was shocked that Troy was selected as high as he was.

FeartheSpur
02-27-2008, 11:39 AM
they figured you cant teach speed you can teach to catch...

usc90grad
02-27-2008, 12:02 PM
Can you honestly blame them. He definitely hasn't lived up to his hype....and I was shocked that Troy was selected as high as he was.

No I can't blame them. And I was shocked he went so high too. Hope he saved his money.

crowcutta
02-27-2008, 12:10 PM
troy isnt the best route runner but he's gotten open. it's like somebody said, his hands by themselves arent terrible, he has possibly the worst hand eye coordination ever, he adjusts to the ball wrong far too many times and makes catches way more difficult than they need to be. i'm still rooting for him to somehow turn it around, if he can be taught to position himself for catches better and get his confidence up. you never know with the shoulda in retrospect comments, if he stays with spurrier his senior year maybe he becomes a complete receiver, or maybe the problems he's having now get exposed sooner and he has a bad year dropping his draft stock down for the following year.

kre25
02-27-2008, 08:26 PM
they figured you cant teach speed you can teach to catch...

In this case My Vikings were WRONG!!

TW can't catch a Cold!!:spurrier:

Click
02-27-2008, 08:30 PM
troy isnt the best route runner but he's gotten open. it's like somebody said, his hands by themselves arent terrible, he has possibly the worst hand eye coordination ever, he adjusts to the ball wrong far too many times and makes catches way more difficult than they need to be. i'm still rooting for him to somehow turn it around, if he can be taught to position himself for catches better and get his confidence up. you never know with the shoulda in retrospect comments, if he stays with spurrier his senior year maybe he becomes a complete receiver, or maybe the problems he's having now get exposed sooner and he has a bad year dropping his draft stock down for the following year.

He was a track guy in high school, right? Not really known for being a big time WR? Wasn't he mainly recruited for his speed?

hellraiser24
02-27-2008, 08:32 PM
He was a track guy in high school, right? Not really known for being a big time WR? Wasn't he mainly recruited for his speed?

yep and he was drafted for his speed

GoCCUChants
02-27-2008, 10:49 PM
I'm very excited as a Jags fan, mostly because he is an ex-gamecock. How tall is Troy? The Jags have the tallest WR corps in the NFL. They could be looking for someone to stretch the D. The new OC wants to air out the ball some more, this may help. Jaxcock, correct me if I'm wrong here.