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SNEEZ
03-02-2008, 10:32 PM
Optimism is an outlook on life such that one maintains a view of the world as a positive place. people would say that optimmism is seeing the glass half full of water opposed to half empty
Pessimism denotes a belief that the experienced world is the worst possible. It describes a general belief that things are bad, and tend to become worse; or that looks to the eventual triumph of evil over good
Guarded Happy median, where you realize bad things will happen and good will come out of them, and sometimes good things happen and bad comes out of them.
TheGuitarCock
03-02-2008, 10:34 PM
Optimism
CoverTwo
03-02-2008, 10:40 PM
Guarded.
SNEEZ
03-02-2008, 10:42 PM
I hardly need to say, b/c I think most anyone on here who has read my posts know, I trust no one and expect no trust until its earned
Pessimist, is the only way to stay whole.
TheGuitarCock
03-02-2008, 10:50 PM
I hardly need to say, b/c I think most anyone on here who has read my posts know, I trust no one and expect no trust until its earned
Pessimist, is the only way to stay whole.
SNEEZ, you really seem like a very unique individual. I always question myself when I read your post. I'd like to meet you sometime (yes, im coming by the tailgate hopefully) because it would be cool to have a convo with you.
But anyways, what do you mean by "whole"?
The Yancey
03-02-2008, 10:51 PM
A pessimist is never disappointed when things do not work out, only happily surprised when they do.
SNEEZ
03-02-2008, 10:54 PM
Whole in body, heart, soul, personality. You keep yourself as your are meant to be, you wont have to second guess or justify yourself.
I am very unique, and I promise, you will never meet anyone as proud of that as I am.
I have spent alot of time in reflection and in thought about the nature of actions, beliefs, words, intentions, and consequences. I can predict how I will react to an "nth" degree about things, therefor I know how to avoid the worst.
More than welcome to have a conversation, but be prepared, I am a highly sarcastic person and I use alot of analogies to prove a point, otherwise my words can be misunderstood, or twisted and I am not a fan of that. by staying true to yourself and not falling into the pitfalls of social norms and acceptability, you maintain an individualistic approach and maintain a swagger, you can almost see the aura of self-confidence and appeal. Its a dark beauty that is rare, most people think pessimist mean its always going to rain and they are always angry.
most people stay angry while being pessimist b/c they never focus on the nature of why you belive that. I believe that a greater good is achieved by being tactically sound in embracing pessimism as a life practice. The more you anticipate what could go wrong and where, the more likely you are to see where it will(if it does) go wrong and why it happened (and knowing why and where is half the battle) Gaining the knowledge to change the outcome by changing something before hand
I utilize a very techinal, tactical and pragmatic approach to everything in life.
Overall philosophy, as I have used in many posts:
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice dhame on me.
I stay cool under pressure, normally, but I don't trust someone until they prove worthy of being trusted and even then after a long time they prove untrustworthy
GotSpurrier82
03-02-2008, 10:59 PM
Guarded, leaning slightly toward optimistic. I just don't let things bother me, except when people attack me, my friends, my family, or my USC.
Ga_Gamecock
03-02-2008, 11:02 PM
Dont swaet the small shit
Dont worry about the thing you cant control
The truth always lies somewhere in the middle
Realist/Optimist/Smartass
TheGuitarCock
03-02-2008, 11:04 PM
I voted optimist because I try to keep a positive outlook on everything I do.
I just want to live life to fullest and have fun.
As GA stated, Don't worry about what you can't control.
Live. Laugh. Love.
The Dude
03-02-2008, 11:23 PM
Whole in body, heart, soul, personality. You keep yourself as your are meant to be, you wont have to second guess or justify yourself.
I am very unique, and I promise, you will never meet anyone as proud of that as I am.
I have spent alot of time in reflection and in thought about the nature of actions, beliefs, words, intentions, and consequences. I can predict how I will react to an "nth" degree about things, therefor I know how to avoid the worst.
More than welcome to have a conversation, but be prepared, I am a highly sarcastic person and I use alot of analogies to prove a point, otherwise my words can be misunderstood, or twisted and I am not a fan of that. by staying true to yourself and not falling into the pitfalls of social norms and acceptability, you maintain an individualistic approach and maintain a swagger, you can almost see the aura of self-confidence and appeal. Its a dark beauty that is rare, most people think pessimist mean its always going to rain and they are always angry.
Me too, but I'm not a pessimist.
SNEEZ...you should check out the 19th century philosopher Schopenhaur...not my cup of tea, but judging from your posts, you might like him!
SNEEZ
03-02-2008, 11:28 PM
Me too, but I'm not a pessimist.
SNEEZ...you should check out the 19th century philosopher Schopenhaur...not my cup of tea, but judging from your posts, you might like him!
I'm assuming you mean Polish Arthur Schopenhaur ?
He took kantian thinking one step further, I'm not a big fan of anything except the division of reality.
he also helped lay the work for Darwinism, whihc I think is a ridiculous thought process.
IF survival of the fittest was real why are there SO MANY IDIOTS in the world
The Dude
03-02-2008, 11:31 PM
I'm assuming you mean Polish Arthur Schopenhaur ?
he took kantian thinking one step further, I'm not a big fan of anything except the division of reality.
Yes, the one and only...
Do any of the other 19th century philosophers interest you much? Since they tend to be some of the most pessimistic...LOL
The Dude
03-02-2008, 11:32 PM
IF survival of the fittest was real why are there SO MANY IDIOTS in the world
Well some would claim that we have too many institutions in place that argue AGAINST survival of the fittest to the point that it almost negates that primal fundamental.
Now you're making me think that Nietzsche might be more of your kind of guy, and while I can read and understand his philosophy, I definitely dont agree with it...
But thats just me.
SNEEZ
03-02-2008, 11:47 PM
Well some would claim that we have too many institutions in place that argue AGAINST survival of the fittest to the point that it almost negates that primal fundamental.
Now you're making me think that Nietzsche might be more of your kind of guy, and while I can read and understand his philosophy, I definitely dont agree with it...
But thats just me.
Nietzsche has a basal view, but he strays too far into transcendental and metaphysicality for my tastes. I prefer Ralph Waldo Emerson... many say he is just a poet. But you cna learn ALOT about beliefs throught art, music, literature...its not as obvious as seeing someone frightened of people shying away, but its there.
however, I do believe in the baptist view or religion...but the mundane reality lacks much explanation
"We live in succession, in division, in parts, in particles. Meantime within man is the soul of the whole; the wise silence; the universal beauty, to which every part and particle is equally related, the eternal ONE. And this deep power in which we exist and whose beatitude is all accessible to us, is not only self-sufficing and perfect in every hour, but the act of seeing and the thing seen, the seer and the spectacle, the subject and the object, are one. We see the world piece by piece, as the sun, the moon, the animal, the tree; but the whole, of which these are shining parts, is the soul."
R. W. Emerson "The Over-Soul"
Gamecock_Aholic
03-02-2008, 11:59 PM
idk what you would call me. i put guarded. i think the worst way possible. but thats only to prepare myself for it. i cant really be disapointed if i expect the bad. but if something good happens, its just a nice surpprise. but im not an unhappy person. i just think realisticly.
Regalcock
03-03-2008, 12:05 AM
I would like to say optimistic but I know I live my life guarded. I only have a few friends I would say are true friends. This mainly is because I have been burned by others in my youth. I don't really hold a grudge because you only punish yourself that way. I just wait until I know someone really well before I truly trust. This goes for my professional life as well.
I have seen too many "good people" do stupid things to people who cared for them. When I finally figured out why it was always basic selfishness.
This does not stop me from being an upbeat person.:cocky::cocky::cocky::cocky:
TheMule
03-03-2008, 08:57 AM
he also helped lay the work for Darwinism, whihc I think is a ridiculous thought process.
IF survival of the fittest was real why are there SO MANY IDIOTS in the world
:rotfl: :rotfl: They breed faster???
I'm a guarded pessimist...hope for the best but brace for the worst.
The Dude
03-03-2008, 08:59 AM
Nietzsche has a basal view, but he strays too far into transcendental and metaphysicality for my tastes. I prefer Ralph Waldo Emerson... many say he is just a poet. But you cna learn ALOT about beliefs throught art, music, literature...its not as obvious as seeing someone frightened of people shying away, but its there.
however, I do believe in the baptist view or religion...but the mundane reality lacks much explanation
"We live in succession, in division, in parts, in particles. Meantime within man is the soul of the whole; the wise silence; the universal beauty, to which every part and particle is equally related, the eternal ONE. And this deep power in which we exist and whose beatitude is all accessible to us, is not only self-sufficing and perfect in every hour, but the act of seeing and the thing seen, the seer and the spectacle, the subject and the object, are one. We see the world piece by piece, as the sun, the moon, the animal, the tree; but the whole, of which these are shining parts, is the soul."
R. W. Emerson "The Over-Soul"
That doesnt sound very pessimistic at all!
:lol:
Love Boat Captain
03-03-2008, 11:00 AM
I think it was Mark Twain who said something to the effect: "I have suffered through a thousand difficulties yet only a handful have ever come to pass."
Pessimism as a view of life is a waste of energy. A clear defense mechanism for those too weak to handle life and all it's challenges. If every day is approached with a worse case scenario attitude no wonder life can seem less than inspiring. Life is not what goes on around you it is how one chooses to live that life. If you claim to be the master of your own destiny yet you believe life is always on the brink of letting you down then you really need to rethink your philosophy. Life is bigger than any one person. We all are living the same life. Some can just handle it's difficulties better than others.
The pessimist plays the role of the victim and therefore cannot by definition be a leader of men. OR if not the victim then they must look into the mirror to find the reasons they see everything as a possible failure instead of a possible victory.
"Twenty years from now you will be more dissapointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do..."
"Pessimism and lack of open contact are not a recipe for progress."
You don't have to be a smiling fool with your head in the clouds to remain a positive influence on your own life, as well as, the lives of others.
The future is unwritten so make your own history.
Mecklenburg Cock
03-03-2008, 11:06 AM
Optimistic or Guarded. Depending on the situation or my mood.
SangareeCrew
03-03-2008, 11:06 AM
I am an eternal optomist.......being a Gamecock fan has taught me to do this!
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 11:16 AM
Pessimism as a view of life is a waste of energy. A clear defense mechanism for those too weak to handle life and all it's challenges.
Yes it is a defense mechanism, but not to call someone weak for planning ahead can become a type of hypocrisy, I could easily say Optimists are too weak to face the reality that nothing is perfect so they hope for good times. As I see your point, we are from two totally different schools of thought on two totally different philosophies.
We all are living the same life. Some can just handle it's difficulties better than others.
While I respect your view, i don't see it like that and heres why. We live in the same world, but not the same life. My past, present and future is totally different from yours. However, the reality of the world my past, present and futre is in is the same as yours. My life may have a ripple effect on the world around me, but unless I act outside of my personal choices and make them apply to a state of many then it will likely not affect your life.
The pessimist plays the role of the victim and therefore cannot by definition be a leader of men. OR if not the victim then they must look into the mirror to find the reasons they see everything as a possible failure instead of a possible victory.
That is an excellent statement!! That is my view of pessimism. not as everything cloudy all the time, I enjoy the hunt for the faults in everything to learn how and why its gone bad, that way I know what toi look for in the future to avoid the bad, so possibly I'm a closet optimist using pessimism as a means to my ends!:lol:
ColaCock
03-03-2008, 11:28 AM
Eh, I am not a fan of this thread...seem like there is a lot of bullshit in it.
Anyways, I believe if you consider yourself a pessimist, you are basically just a weak person in my eyes that can't deal with life and it's highs and lows. A pessimist holds no leadership values and while they have a problem trusting others- there is no way in hell most people would decide to trust them as well. Its called life. Deal with it.
Love Boat Captain
03-03-2008, 11:47 AM
Pessimist
Always
See SNEEZ. You don't want to end up like this miserable S.O.B. do you?
8-)
See SNEEZ. You don't want to end up like this miserable S.O.B. do you?
8-)
That was just a low blow
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 01:24 PM
Eh, I am not a fan of this thread...seem like there is a lot of bullshit in it..
thats a very negative outlook for a self-proclaimed optimist
you call bulshit, I call modern thought. pot meet kettle, kettle meet pot, same thing different thought processes LoL
Anyways, I believe if you consider yourself a pessimist, you are basically just a weak person in my eyes that can't deal with life and it's highs and lows. A pessimist holds no leadership values and while they have a problem trusting others- there is no way in hell most people would decide to trust them as well. Its called life. Deal with it.
The only thing I agree on is can't handle life at its highs. I enjoy the good times, but they get boring I want a challenge, I want to calculate I want to take risks that are hazardous adn dangerous, but only after alot of scrutiny and logical probability.
Actually I don't think yuo could be more wrong. I would rather follow someone who is prepared for and expects the worst, than somone who says, "Ah, it'll be okay everything'll work out just fine"
you can be calculating and anticpate the bad and be a great leader. Reagan had a semi-pessimist outlook, and we all know how bad he was at leadership
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 01:25 PM
See SNEEZ. You don't want to end up like this miserable S.O.B. do you?
8-)
please! I'm a conservative! I'll never be that bad!
[/end political plug]
:rotfl::lol:
The Dude
03-03-2008, 01:29 PM
Eh, I am not a fan of this thread...seem like there is a lot of bullshit in it.
Anyways, I believe if you consider yourself a pessimist, you are basically just a weak person in my eyes that can't deal with life and it's highs and lows. A pessimist holds no leadership values and while they have a problem trusting others- there is no way in hell most people would decide to trust them as well. Its called life. Deal with it.
Theres a very short philosophy book that came out about a year or so ago called "On Bullshit"...check it out
:lol:
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 01:31 PM
Theres a very short philosophy book that came out about a year or so ago called "On Bullshit"...check it out
:lol:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040421060422/www.jelks.nu/misc/articles/bs.html
full text. its great:thumbsup:
my favorite part:
But it is preposterous to imagine that we ourselves are determinate, and hence susceptible both to correct and to incorrect descriptions, while supposing that the ascription of determinacy to anything else has been exposed as a mistake. As conscious beings, we exist only in response to other things, and we cannot know ourselves at all without knowing them. Moreover, there is nothing in theory, and certainly nothing in experience, to support the extraordinary judgment that it is the truth about himself that is the easiest for a person to know. Facts about ourselves are not peculiarly solid and resistant to skeptical dissolution. Our natures are, indeed, elusively insubstantial — notoriously less stable and less inherent than the natures of other things. And insofar as this is the case, sincerity itself is bullshit.
hardcock2
03-03-2008, 01:56 PM
<< guarded with optimism.
not too much bothers or worries me....besides, there's not alot I can do about things not in my control...so why worry. Live to the fullest and happiest you can....there's no reason to live any other way.
friends of mine worry about work when they're not at work....I tell'em work goes out the window as soon as I leave work each day....screw that.
my mom worries about her kids of course....but I (being 1500 miles apart)tell her she doesn't need to bother worrying about me or anything else she can't control....she let's it affects her way too much...and I hate it.
zappa
03-03-2008, 02:22 PM
Never sweat the petty stuff,but always pet the sweaty stuff.
RockyTopGirl
03-03-2008, 03:45 PM
im an optimist definitly, i always look at the bright side of life and i always have a good attitude about everything.......
USCya
03-03-2008, 04:54 PM
See SNEEZ. You don't want to end up like this miserable S.O.B. do you?
8-)
Just spurted Diet Coke through my nose - freakin' deviated septum :lol:
I would rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed....
CarolinaGirl82
03-03-2008, 05:14 PM
I would say I'm guarded. I don't always look at the negative side of things, but also don't always look on the bright side of a situation either. I try to look for the good in things, but sometimes it's just not there...
DEECOCK
03-03-2008, 05:33 PM
I was optimistic until I became a gamecock fan. Our football team has force me to be pessimistic....That way there are no more letdowns.
DEECOCK
03-03-2008, 05:45 PM
This thread just shows, the more you think about $hit the crazier you get.
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 05:49 PM
that is a fairly lazy view on life.
the more you think the more you understand
DEECOCK
03-03-2008, 05:49 PM
Not in some cases
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 05:52 PM
not not in all cases, but in general the more time you spend thinking, if you know HOW to go about analyzing the subject the better your understanding will be
DEECOCK
03-03-2008, 05:57 PM
Or, you can drive yourself crazy thing about the past and the wouda, shoulda, coulda. I personally will reflect for a second to keep from making the same mistake, but I try never to think about the past. And by think I mostly mean dwelling.
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 05:59 PM
Or, you can drive yourself crazy thing about the past and the wouda, shoulda, coulda. I personally will reflect for a second to keep from making the same mistake, but I try never to think about the past. And by think I mostly mean dwelling.
thats where the weak minded pessimists goes wrong they dwell on shoulda, coulda, woulda, instead of what DID happen and how can that be avoided in the future.
DEECOCK
03-03-2008, 06:05 PM
Its called normal. I do it every football season after 5 or 6 games.
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 08:54 PM
why does this keep popping up as a newly posted thread every 10 minutes even tho it was posted at 5:05?
The Dude
03-03-2008, 10:09 PM
why does this keep popping up as a newly posted thread every 10 minutes even tho it was posted at 5:05?
someone could have voted in the poll, without any new posts being made.
USCya
03-03-2008, 10:25 PM
someone could have voted in the poll, without any new posts being made.
Prolly a pessimist.... just sayin'
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 10:29 PM
i had totally forgotten the poll. LoL
I was ready to defend my pessimism to its utmost...LoL
TheMule
03-03-2008, 10:35 PM
See SNEEZ. You don't want to end up like this miserable S.O.B. do you?
Hope you're not optomistic about not being audited this year. :lol:
TheMule
03-03-2008, 10:44 PM
What's this thread without a little Python philosophy?
cjfpUe1OdLc
SNEEZ
03-03-2008, 10:46 PM
LoL i'd forgotten about that.
Spur's Addiction
03-03-2008, 10:47 PM
I don't tink this falls into the poll. Here is how I live:
- Be yourslef (no matter what other people think)
- Enjoy what you have
- Be true to yoru family and friends.
Anything else is either out of your control or are not worth worrying about.
carolina80
03-04-2008, 12:40 AM
guardedly optimistic...You can't control much of what happens to you, but you can control how you react to it...
CarolinaGirl82
03-04-2008, 09:17 AM
guardedly optimistic...You can't control much of what happens to you, but you can control how you react to it...
Well said :)
SouthernCock
03-04-2008, 10:14 AM
i always say "if s$%t happens deal with it" !!!!!!!!!!
My philosophy,,,,,,I like big titties and they are good
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