Andrew Clifford Thread

[FlorenceCock]

Spurrier Visits Wharton's Clifford

Wharton senior quarterback Andrew Clifford (http://www2.tbo.com/topic/k/andrew-clifford/) was visited at school on Tuesday by South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier. Clifford said the meeting went well and Spurrier extended an invitation to visit the campus on Jan. 31.
Clifford said Spurrier has not offered him a scholarship, but said "it looks pretty good."
"They liked my tape and they seemed real excited," Clifford said. "(Spurrier) said he liked my release and the way I throw to the corner. He liked the way we did stuff."


http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jan/20/spurrier-visits-whartons-clifford/

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=62334&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d623 34%26season%3d2009

[CoverTwo]

Rivals Bio: http://southcarolina.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=78584&sport=1

This is definitely a product of G.A. Mangus' scouting.

[FlorenceCock]

I am hoping this kid is a diamond in the rough that Spurrier just see's something in that no one else has seen.

[gamecockphan]

No offers from anyone?

[CoverTwo]

He has good size and a BIG arm...not sure why no offers.

[FlorenceCock]

No offers from anyone?
I think he has a few Div 1AA offers but no BCS school has offered him.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Head scratcher. Sounds like another project too me. I have no problem being wrong though.

[gamecockphan]

Head scratcher. Sounds like another project too me. I have no problem being wrong though.

ditto that. let the kid walk on.

[BrownBearCock]

http://www.prepchamps.com/profiles/athlete/392

BIO: Im Andrew Clifford, born in Orlando, Fl on february 9, 1991. I was born into an athletic family, my dad played at the University of Florida, and he had 5 brothers who also played division 1 football. One played at Florida as well, two of them played at Clemson, and two of them played at the Citadel. My Cousin Austin played at the University of Alabama and my cousin Kendall ran track for Alabama. My family loves football, and i have high intentions in following the footsteps of my father and my uncles in playing college football. Its my life, and my passion. I also play baseball, im the starting pitcher.

Honors:

I broke the school passing record as a junior, and i was awarded the Big Cat leadership award, the first junior to recieve the award.

Other Statistics:

My Junior season i passed for 1,471 yards with 10 Td’s and 4 interceptions. I was 3rd in Hillsborough County in passing yards

About Me:

Im not used to losing, ive been on over 10 championship teams throughout my athletic career.

[BrownBearCock]

His dad and one of his Brothers both played at UF, theres ur connection

[USCBASEBALL1]

Cannot imagine a top notch signal caller in the State of Florida that has no offers at this time. I felt sure there was an underlying tie to Florida somewhere in his recruitiment. Starting to wonder between this guy and the Prep guy if we aren't reaching for a QB. I would think it best at this time we just recruit one for next year.

[wilsonhallbarons]

hopefully Spurrier sees something that nobody else does

[cjsgamecock]

Ok correct me if im wrong but this kid looks like he has a freaking ARM on him....

[CoverTwo]

Ok correct me if im wrong but this kid looks like he has a freaking ARM on him....

He can definitely sling it.

[usc1]

not crazy about his TD to INT ratio. God knows we need more accuracy with our QBs...

[CoverTwo]

Maybe G.A. sees something in this guy..Idk, I would think that Donny McEleevin would get a look before this guy..and G.A. recruited Donny for MTSU.

[COCKROCK]

Who knows, maybe some under the radar QB that has something to prove and willing to work hard might be what we need.

[USCBASEBALL1]

not crazy about his TD to INT ratio. God knows we need more accuracy with our QBs...

Thats the first thing I saw as well ...

[Seladen]

He doesn't have an offer yet. Donny was invited for an official for the same weekend as well. Not sure if he turn it down or not.

[GoonSquad]

Look for Donny to go to Clemson. His mother went there and he seems to like it.

I for one am happy about that. Saw a lot of McElveen this year and wasn't impressed.

[FlorenceCock]

Does the possible recruitment of this kid mean that we now probably won't get one or two of the high ranked targets still left on our list?

[CoverTwo]

^ nah, we are targeting around 30.

I think it means Spurrier wants an insurance policy.

[Gamecocks4ever]

We should offer him to walk-on and if he does good enough he can earn a scholarship.

[Blake]

i trust sos on this but imo i think bryce petty has a much better arm.

does anyone know how well his team did this year? i know he threw for over 2200yards and accounted for over 30tds but i like winners so im wondering how well his team did.

[GamecockSmitty4]

i trust sos on this but imo i think bryce petty has a much better arm.

does anyone know how well his team did this year? i know he threw for over 2200yards and accounted for over 30tds but i like winners so im wondering how well his team did.

I agree. I would take Bryce Petty in a heartbeat over this kid. Not saying anything is wrong with Clifford, as SOS and/or Wolfy obviously see something in him, but I think Bryce Petty is a stud.

[d.c.]

It seems like this is a move out of desperation, similar to Beecher and Thompson from Spurrier's first recruiting class. He seems like another project to me. I also think we should offer him as a preferred walk-on, since he doesn't have many offers on the table.

[espn4lyf]

we offer this kid but not tajh boyd dont understand

[Gamecockfanatic4]

we offer this kid but not tajh boyd dont understand

we havnt offered him yet

[Spurred]

yeah this is the same kinda article someone writes saying we are interested in Boyd, Petty, Russel and nothing happens at all. We could have had any of these QB's if we would have pursued them when they were interested in us. I agree that if we offer this kid, it looks like a Cade Thompson or Tommy Beecher type situation.

[TampaTitan]

Andrew is a great kid with a good arm and very smart. He's got good size as well ( 6'3 210 ) and he's tough. He's probably some what of a reach at this level, but I could see him developing into a very good QB. Led his team to the second round of the playoffs and in my opinion a big reason he hasn't gotten a lot of pub locally is because there are so many talented QB's in this area. He came on strong at the end of the year.

[athenscock2]

Tommy Beecher had one offer and much better credentials when we took him. Projects are a long shot. This one sounds like a real long shot.

[Luke Skycocker]

Cannot imagine a top notch signal caller in the State of Florida that has no offers at this time. I felt sure there was an underlying tie to Florida somewhere in his recruitiment. Starting to wonder between this guy and the Prep guy if we aren't reaching for a QB. I would think it best at this time we just recruit one for next year.



maybe hes not that good. we dont know. but if nobody is looking at him, chances are he isnt that great

[happygilmore527]

Not sure how I feel about this one. Definitely has that Beecher feel to it, but I guess you just never know. I hope this is more of an insurance plan than anything.

I think the problem with Bryce was he was too tall. I believe Spurrier doesn't like his QB's over 6'2, 6'3 size and Bryce was 6'6 if I'm not mistaken. Not sure on Boyd. I guess he just didn't feel good about him as a passer.

[LegalCock]

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[TheWeave09]

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My thoughts exactly

[Blake]

bryce was 6'3 210 same size. But i heard Clifford has a quick release that sos likes along from taking snaps from under center and petty and tahj were only shotgun qb's. Clifford came on strong at the end of the year going 9-3 and winning the 5A district 5 title and getting better every game by throwing for more than 300yards in each of his last three games going with 6 td's. After watching his video he looks like a athletic kid that I can see sos liking, but im just not sure about his arm strenth yet, i saw him make one or two deep throws but i also saw a lot of lobs and screens. But all you can do is trust sos and thats something I will always do.

[MBGCock]

Spurrier Visits Wharton's Clifford



http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jan/20/spurrier-visits-whartons-clifford/

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=62334&season=2009&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d623 34%26season%3d2009

That would be crazy to get a vist from the ole ball coach at school.

[USCBASEBALL1]

bryce was 6'3 210 same size. But i heard Clifford has a quick release that sos likes along from taking snaps from under center and petty and tahj were only shotgun qb's. Clifford came on strong at the end of the year going 9-3 and winning the 5A district 5 title and getting better every game by throwing for more than 300yards in each of his last three games going with 6 td's. After watching his video he looks like a athletic kid that I can see sos liking, but im just not sure about his arm strenth yet, i saw him make one or two deep throws but i also saw a lot of lobs and screens. But all you can do is trust sos and thats something I will always do.


Actually Boyd threw allot out of the a Pro Style Offense. Whitakers film imo is ugly. He throws side arm, off his back foot, shot puts the ball, plus thows a wobbly ball on top of that. Not a very good TD to INT margin either. Nothing on him tells me he will ever be succesful on this level or has the tools to be succesful on this level. This is obviously jmo but I just do not see it at all. I would have no problem with this kid walking on but to offer a schollie while your not willing to take a chance on a Geathers kid just makes me scratch my head.

[winthropcock]

Andrew is a great kid with a good arm and very smart. He's got good size as well ( 6'3 210 ) and he's tough. He's probably some what of a reach at this level, but I could see him developing into a very good QB. Led his team to the second round of the playoffs and in my opinion a big reason he hasn't gotten a lot of pub locally is because there are so many talented QB's in this area. He came on strong at the end of the year.

If we do take a QB it will almost certainly be a pro style QB, which is what they are looking at right now. We do not have a need for another mobile QB w/ Hillary and Garcia already on the team. We want someone who will sit in the pocket and make the throws.

They are looking for a diamond in the rough if you will.

[uscfan1]

we offer this kid but not tajh boyd dont understand

I need to watch Tajh's film(i have no idea what his mechanics and release look like compared to this kid). I did watch Andrew's film last night and I like his realease(it's pretty wuick) and he does throw to the corner pretty well. He also throws the fade nicley.

That being said, I highly doubt they are bringing him in this year to start. He seems to be a guy that has a winning mentality from all of his families accolades. After watching his film I don't know why he is not rated as at least a 3-star prospect. Maybe they ran the ball most of the time.

He aslo has good mobility. Looks pretty solid to me as far as what you can build on with him.

[winthropcock]

Clifford is at least a 3* or should be anyways. His mechanics are terrific.

[PrepChamps]

As some have mentioned, he's definitely got a good attitude and winning mentality. I think he has a good foundation to build on. Will be interesting to see what happens here.

[wincocks84]

As some have mentioned, he's definitely got a good attitude and winning mentality. I think he has a good foundation to build on. Will be interesting to see what happens here.

He reminds me of McCollum without the star ranking...Also since it seems he started coming into his own towards the end of the season, scout or rivals probably just overlooked him. Florida is a big state..easy to get lost in the masses

[winthropcock]

People rely to heavily on star power. Granted, many highly rated star players turn out to be studs. But there are always, ALWAYS, diamonds in the rough. This kid has a good arm, very accurate, and terrific mechanics, and he is a pure drop back passer, just what we are looking for. Will be very interesting.

[wincocks84]

Ill bet teams will take a look at him now that Spurrier has brought him into the light.

[SClawman]

People rely to heavily on star power. Granted, many highly rated star players turn out to be studs. But there are always, ALWAYS, diamonds in the rough. This kid has a good arm, very accurate, and terrific mechanics, and he is a pure drop back passer, just what we are looking for. Will be very interesting.

We were saying the same thing about Beecher and Thompson.

Just think it's premature to build this guy up especially if we haven't offerred.

[winthropcock]

Some work out some don't. Live with it. I for one think he looks like a really good prospect. I don't know how you can't think that looking at his videos.

[TrueGarnet]

We were saying the same thing about Beecher and Thompson.

Just think it's premature to build this guy up especially if we haven't offerred.

Kenny McKinley (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=26495)ATHhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif6-01664.535.5http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/mediaicons_video.gif (javascript:window.open('video.asp?section=fbrecru it&pkey=26495','video','height=850,width=812,toolbar= no, menubar=no, scrollbars=yes, resizable=yes,location=no, directories=no, status=no');void('');)Mableton, GA
Sidney Rice (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=13518)WRhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif6-41854.555.5 Gaffney, SC
Jared Cook (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=29054)WRhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif6-52024.65.7http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/mediaicons_video.gif (javascript:window.open('video.asp?section=fbrecru it&pkey=29054','video','height=850,width=812,toolbar= no, menubar=no, scrollbars=yes, resizable=yes,location=no, directories=no, status=no');void('');)Suwanee, GAJarriel King (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=33701)DThttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif6-62704.875.3http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/mediaicons_video.gif (javascript:window.open('video.asp?section=fbrecru it&pkey=33701','video','height=850,width=812,toolbar= no, menubar=no, scrollbars=yes, resizable=yes,location=no, directories=no, status=no');void('');)North Charleston, SC

Emanuel Cook (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=35936)DBhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif5-101974.495.7http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/mediaicons_video.gif (javascript:window.open('video.asp?section=fbrecru it&pkey=35936','video','height=850,width=812,toolbar= no, menubar=no, scrollbars=yes, resizable=yes,location=no, directories=no, status=no');void('');)West Palm Beach, FL

I think that says it all

[Gamecockfanatic4]

Kenny McKinley (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=26495)ATHhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif6-01664.535.5http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/mediaicons_video.gif (javascript:window.open('video.asp?section=fbrecru it&pkey=26495','video','height=850,width=812,toolbar= no, menubar=no, scrollbars=yes, resizable=yes,location=no, directories=no, status=no');void('');)Mableton, GA
Sidney Rice (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=13518)WRhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif6-41854.555.5 Gaffney, SC
Jared Cook (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=29054)WRhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif6-52024.65.7http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/mediaicons_video.gif (javascript:window.open('video.asp?section=fbrecru it&pkey=29054','video','height=850,width=812,toolbar= no, menubar=no, scrollbars=yes, resizable=yes,location=no, directories=no, status=no');void('');)Suwanee, GAJarriel King (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=33701)DThttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif6-62704.875.3http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/mediaicons_video.gif (javascript:window.open('video.asp?section=fbrecru it&pkey=33701','video','height=850,width=812,toolbar= no, menubar=no, scrollbars=yes, resizable=yes,location=no, directories=no, status=no');void('');)North Charleston, SC

Emanuel Cook (http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=35936)DBhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gifhttp://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/stargold.gif5-101974.495.7http://vmedia.rivals.com/images/database/mediaicons_video.gif (javascript:window.open('video.asp?section=fbrecru it&pkey=35936','video','height=850,width=812,toolbar= no, menubar=no, scrollbars=yes, resizable=yes,location=no, directories=no, status=no');void('');)West Palm Beach, FL

I think that says it all

King's rating was more about grades since he wasn't gonna qualify

[CoverTwo]

Clifford plays 5A ball in Florida..So its not like he is up against shotty competition.

[TrueGarnet]

King's rating was more about grades since he wasn't gonna qualify

Understood. The point was made just to solidify winthropcocks comment about too much emphasis placed on "stars".

4 of those 5 "3 star" and below recruits are playin on Sunday next year and the other was one of our few bright spots on the OL this year.

[FinchMcCrunkNasty]

If we needed a freakin QB so bad why the hell did we let Boyd get away???!!! I mean....I'd much rather have a kid with two 1AA offers than the #3 Dual Threat QB with a cannon for an arm who had offers from all over the map....JESUS! TALK ABOUT THE NUTS RUNNING THE NUTHOUSE!

[uscrob4]

If we needed a freakin QB so bad why the hell did we let Boyd get away???!!! I mean....I'd much rather have a kid with two 1AA offers than the #3 Dual Threat QB with a cannon for an arm who had offers from all over the map....JESUS! TALK ABOUT THE NUTS RUNNING THE NUTHOUSE!

Tenn. dropped the kid because he was not what they were looking for. Basically, he isn't a pocket passer which means he isn't going to fit the offense that tenn. is going to run. Here we are with a redshirt fresh. dual threat quaterback and he is having trouble learning the system. Why bring in another one? Why not let SOS recruit what he wants on HIS team. Don't get me wrong I think we need a QB just as much as the next fan, but if we want take just anyone on the team to fill up spots why take players that aren't going to fit in our system even if they are great? We don't run a 5-2 defense so no one is mad because we aren't getting 6 D-line this year. we run an offense that calls for a QB to sit in the pocket, read the d, make a throw, and then sometimes take a hit.

[uscfan1]

If we needed a freakin QB so bad why the hell did we let Boyd get away???!!! I mean....I'd much rather have a kid with two 1AA offers than the #3 Dual Threat QB with a cannon for an arm who had offers from all over the map....JESUS! TALK ABOUT THE NUTS RUNNING THE NUTHOUSE!


He had quite a few offers, but at the same time there were plenty that did not offer. You get what you think will fit. Simple as that. If he is not what you want then why bring him in and create controversy when you don't plan to play him. I'm not calling you an ignorant star-gazer right now but you are mimmicking one pretty well.

IF THE HBC DOES NOT THINK HE FITS WHAT HE IS TRYING TO BUILD THEN HE WILL NOT OFFER. HE DID NOT OFFER SO THAT PROBABLY MEANS HE DID NOT SEE SOMETHING IN HIM THAT HE HAD TO HAVE. LET IT GO.

[Coondog]

This kid seems to have potential but is he worth giving up one of the few spots we have left with all the talented players we're going after? I would just hate to lose out on a player that we really need just to get a hopeful QB.

[winthropcock]

Who knows if he worth a shot. I will tell you this, Spurrier knows before all of us do. Maybe he is telling him to walk on, who knows.

[CoverTwo]

I can see why we didnt offer Boyd..what I can't understand is why we didnt go after Bryce Petty..THAT is what baffles me..but again, this guy has a good skill set and the word is that he throws a really good corner ball which is something Garcia (and Smelley when he was here) had trouble with.

[dumpyloser]

Does anyone have a link to a video I can watch without being a member? I used to be able to watch a free one on one of the two sites when my cookies were cleared, but I think they ended that. anyways, I'd love to see this guys film

I for one wish we would have continued to recruit Morgan Newton... Kid has talent.

[LegalCock]

Eric Kimrey could throw the fade...he was worth the scholarship.

[gamecockclint]

Here you go Dumpy.

http://www.prepchamps.com/profiles/athlete/392

[LiveandDieGC]

January 20, 2009

Spurrier Meets With Quarterback Prospect

By Phil Kornblut

USC head coach Steve Spurrier has passed on several potential quarterback recruits for the 2009 class, but Tuesday he visited with one in Tampa he apparently likes enough to bring in for an official visit. Following is the story by the Tampa Tribune's Izzy Gould on Spurrier's meeting with Andrew Clifford, the nephew of Beaufort High School coach Mark Clifford.
Andrew Clifford was getting ready to workout earlier this when he looked down at his cell phone and noticed a missed call.

The Wharton quarterback checked his voicemail. The voice was that of South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier. He wanted to meet with Clifford face-to-face.

Spurrier visited Clifford at Wharton today for almost an hour where they talked about Clifford's career and his future. Spurrier stopped short of a scholarship offer, instead offering Clifford a chance to take an official visit Jan. 30.

"He's interested in a quarterback," Clifford said. "He saw my film and really liked me. He said come up on a visit and we'll see what that leads to."

Spurrier recently lost quarterback Chris Smelley, who transferred to Alabama to play baseball. Smelley rotated with former Jefferson quarterback Stephen Garcia.

Clifford grew up a Florida fan and "idolized" the relationship Spurrier had with former Gators quarterback Danny Wuerffel. Clifford's father, Tom, was a quarterback at Florida in the 1970s.

Clifford threw for 2,263 yards, 20 touchdowns and 10 interceptions leading Wharton to a 9-3 season and the Class 5A, District 5 title. The Wildcats advanced to the Class 5A region semifinal falling 45-21 to Chamberlain.

Clifford improved as the season went on throwing for more than 300 yards in each of his final three games with six touchdowns and four interceptions.

Could this be the big offer Clifford has been waiting for? He also has family in South Carolina, so it seems like a nice fit.

"It sounds perfect," Clifford said.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20090120/PSPORTS02/901200207/-1/PSPORTS

[GamecockSmitty4]

This may have nothing at all to do with it, but I think there may be a possibility that Spurrier kind of likes this kid, but may also like someone who is going to be a senior at that school next year and knows he could improve his chances for him by getting a teammate. Possibility?

[GoonSquad]

This may have nothing at all to do with it, but I think there may be a possibility that Spurrier kind of likes this kid, but may also like someone who is going to be a senior at that school next year and knows he could improve his chances for him by getting a teammate. Possibility?

not necessarily, Spurrier isn't one to bring in a player they don't feel is best for the team, regardless of how good a teammate is that they want.

[GamecockSmitty4]

not necessarily, Spurrier isn't one to bring in a player they don't feel is best for the team, regardless of how good a teammate is that they want.

I'm not saying that he doesn't want this kid. But who says that there are other kids just as good as him, but SOS wants this kid over the others because he thinks that he could do something, AND get another kid? Again, this may have nothing to do with it at all, and I could be pulling this out of my butt, but I'm sure it could be a possibility.

[LiveandDieGC]

<H6>January 21, 2009

FL QB TO Visit USC

By Eric Guimaraes

QB Andrew Clifford (6-2 1/2 210) of Tampa, FL has received recent interest from the USC coaching staff. Steve Spurrier and G.A. Mangus were in Tampa to visit with Clifford. "They called Monday and said they would like to meet him," said his father, Tom Clifford. "They invited him to take an offcial visit on January 30th." Tom Clifford played qb at Florida in the 1970s and had two brothers who have played at Clemson. "I'm really familiar with the rivalry," he chuckled. "In all seriousness, I've heard it's a beautiful campus and look forward to visiting." Clifford has offers from Charleston Southern and Liberty and has been drawing recent attention from other schools as well. Florida Atlantic, Central Florida, and Colgate have all shown interest and asking Clifford to visit. Clifford grew up a Florida Gator fan and would love the opportunity to play for Coach Spurrier. "He even told me he would love to get yelled at by the coach," said his father playfully. USC has not offered but they are hopeful an offer will me made.
</H6>http://www.goupstate.com/article/20090121/PSPORTS02/901210210/-1/psports

sign him up, i'm tired of our players getting pouty cause the coach yelled at them. It's a man's game. Suck it up.

[GoonSquad]

I think this guy has a lot of potential.

[mjmiller]

give this guy a scholarship please.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Was not overly impressed with his passing but he does have some wheels.

[dumpyloser]

Here you go Dumpy.

http://www.prepchamps.com/profiles/athlete/392

Thanks a lot for the link! I love analyzing QB's

This kid has potential. I did notice that he has one major problem that our past 3 qb's have had. That is the tendency to look at one wr. What is good about this kid is he had virtually no OL (like our past 2-3 seasons) but was still able to make the play outside of the pocket. His vision while doing so encourages me to think that he'll be able to proceed through his checkdowns at the college level given some coaching and not stare down his target. He kept his head hown field when running and made things happen with the ball (instead of running backwards and throwing it right to the defender for a touchdown like smelley in the Florida game). I think what spurrier really likes about this kid is that he knows how to work without an OL and he is able to throw the ball to a position (which is what spurriers offense is all about). He throws in front of the wr and away from the defense for the most part. What concerns me here is our wr's apart from kenny last year and cook every once in a while, the route running was very poor and this type of pass gets picked easy with poor route running. Given a RS year and 2-3 springs to pick up the system, coupled with his seemingly great attitude, love for the game and will to get better, this kid "could" be VERY good! He definitely has the physical ability and drive to get a shot here.

Bottom line: this guy is not a pure pocket passer like you guys were saying, BUT the few times he did take a 3-step he had a GREAT deep ball! He has enough potential to warrant an offer by me and be glad that he doesn't have any offers from big schools... he's ours for the taking!

[TampaTitan]

If we do take a QB it will almost certainly be a pro style QB, which is what they are looking at right now. We do not have a need for another mobile QB w/ Hillary and Garcia already on the team. We want someone who will sit in the pocket and make the throws.

They are looking for a diamond in the rough if you will.

And Clifford fits this to a tee. He got some pub early on because he won an accuracy event at some national combine for QB's, then it kind of died off until the end of the year when he came on strong. Like I said from watching him this past year I think he could develop into a good QB at this level.

[Coondog]

His TD to Int ratio concerns me. We have had more than our share of int's over the past few years. I'm sure this kid has potential and could be a diamond in the rough so I will as always trust Spurrier on this. I just hate to possibly lose out on a top recruit just to bring in a QB.

[GoonSquad]

we will not bring him in unless we miss a major prospect. so no worries there.

[droc]

Spurrier told Clifford an offer was probably going to happen, I like the idea of a florida kid who wasn't highly recruited but we found him from the friend grapevine, that's how we found Dimarco and look how he turned out, I for one vote yes and hope he joins the program.

[wwoold]

January 26, 2009

Clifford Hears From Spurrier

By Phil Kornblut

QB Andrew Clifford (6-3 210) of Tampa was contacted Monday by USC head coach Steve Spurrier according to his father, former Florida quarterback Tom Clifford. "He just said he's looking forward to the visit," Tom Clifford said. The Cliffords will make an official visit to USC this weekend. Gamecock quarterbacks coach GA Mangus visited Clifford at his school Monday. Clifford has not been offered by the Gamecocks. He likely would accept if offered this weekend. "He's always wanted to play in the SEC," his father said. "He's always liked coach Spurrier. He grew up liking him." Clifford does not have any major college offers at this point but he's also getting some interest from Boston College and Syracuse according to his father.
http://www.goupstate.com/article/20090126/PSPORTS02/901260219/-1/PSPORTS

[USCBASEBALL1]

Spurrier told Clifford an offer was probably going to happen, I like the idea of a florida kid who wasn't highly recruited but we found him from the friend grapevine, that's how we found Dimarco and look how he turned out, I for one vote yes and hope he joins the program.

His mechanics are ugly but hey, so were Weurffels. Hate to make the comparison but Clifford throws the ball like him. Same kinda shot put side arm look. I will also say the dude has a set of wheels on him.

[CoverTwo]

Mechanics will be fixed..thats the first thing Spurrier does when QB's get here..He turns them into robots (notice how they all throw the exact same way).

[USCBASEBALL1]

Mechanics will be fixed..thats the first thing Spurrier does when QB's get here..He turns them into robots (notice how they all throw the exact same way).

Very good point. He is athletic and we need some depth at QB.

[cockycrusader87]

from his workout video, it looked like his passes had some zip on them... then again, i've never seen any of our qbs throw in that type of setting with no pads on, so i really have nothing to serve as a reference point..

[CoverTwo]

from his workout video, it looked like his passes had some zip on them... then again, i've never seen any of our qbs throw in that type of setting with no pads on, so i really have nothing to serve as a reference point..

It's hard to judge from a workout video..Workout videos are good indicators for mechanics, IMO.

You have to watch his game film to get a better judgement..In his game film, he is spending most of the time running for his life and throwing off the back foot alot because his offensive line was horrendous..BUT, when he did get time he absolutely gunned it into the receiver and he made plays with his feet..He isnt a natural runner but he can get yards..His deep ball is very impressive..But what Spurrier is most intrigued about, from what I have heard, is that he throws an excellent corner ball.

[09Gamecock]

Would Clifford take a preferred walk-on offer? It seems like we're the only big time school (really maybe the only FBS school) recruiting him at all. We may not need to use a scholarship to get him.

[1SCFanInPAUntilNow]

Alright so now with Montgomery and Stallworth out of the picture will we now offer this kid and if we do is he a lock to commit

[athenscock2]

Well, he has no other offers if I read correctly, so I'd say yes he is a lock. Is it a risky move? Yes, imo since SOS did not make winning qbs out of Beecher, Thompson, Smelley or Heffner. He's got a lot more at stake than I do so it's his call to make. Just hope it works out.

[cjsgamecock]

I like this kid, he has good size and I think he can sling the ball. i would rather get a kid SOS can work with and develop him into a good player. Plus he wants to work, he wants to put in the time, and what other player on the team has said they want to get yelled at by SOS.

[CoverTwo]

It's not a guarantee that he is getting an offer.

[FinchMcCrunkNasty]

Yeah I'd much rather have this kid than Tajh Boyd.....our coaches really seem to have a grip on recruiting and seem to be on the same page.....I'm so glad Tajh Boyd contacted our coaches and then we gave him the cold shoulder after reviewing his film even though every single freakin school in the country wanted him at some point.....this Clifford kid is the answer.....going after no names has really worked for us in the past.....insert Tommy Beecher or Cade Thompson now.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Yeah I'd much rather have this kid than Tajh Boyd.....our coaches really seem to have a grip on recruiting and seem to be on the same page.....I'm so glad Tajh Boyd contacted our coaches and then we gave him the cold shoulder after reviewing his film even though every single freakin school in the country wanted him at some point.....this Clifford kid is the answer.....going after no names has really worked for us in the past.....insert Tommy Beecher or Cade Thompson now.

Still scratching my head on that one Finch .... not sure what we were thinking.

[CoverTwo]

It goes deeper than reviewing film.

Anyway, from what I have gathered..Spurrier would like for Clifford to come aboard as a preferred walkon and earn a scholarship..the problem is getting him to turn down the full rides he already has on the table from smaller schools.

[FinchMcCrunkNasty]

It goes deeper than reviewing film.

Anyway, from what I have gathered..Spurrier would like for Clifford to come aboard as a preferred walkon and earn a scholarship..the problem is getting him to turn down the full rides he already has on the table from smaller schools.Bottom line...our coaches better be roadwarriors this season recruiting the hell out of those 2010 QBs. We better land 2 and one of them better be a bigtime recruit or this offense will continue to go nowhere.

[CoverTwo]

Bottom line...our coaches better be roadwarriors this season recruiting the hell out of those 2010 QBs. We better land 2 and one of them better be a bigtime recruit or this offense will continue to go nowhere.

I wouldn't worry about it right now..they will sign 2.

[Freehawk]

Yeah I'd much rather have this kid than Tajh Boyd.....our coaches really seem to have a grip on recruiting and seem to be on the same page.....I'm so glad Tajh Boyd contacted our coaches and then we gave him the cold shoulder after reviewing his film even though every single freakin school in the country wanted him at some point.....this Clifford kid is the answer.....going after no names has really worked for us in the past.....insert Tommy Beecher or Cade Thompson now.

He is six feet tall. He has a bad ACL. UT's new coach took one look at him and turned him down (when he was already committed). WV didn't seem heartbroken he changed his commitment before that. We heard Ohio State was interested, but we don't know that. Contacting our coaches doesn't mean anything. Other than that, your post is accurate.

Our eggs are in the Garcia basket at this point. He was a very highly rated recruit out of high school, and has made some good plays in SEC games thus far.

[Freehawk]

http://www.prepchamps.com/profiles/athlete/392 (http://www.prepchamps.com/profiles/athlete/392)

BIO: Im Andrew Clifford, born in Orlando, Fl on february 9, 1991. I was born into an athletic family, my dad played at the University of Florida, and he had 5 brothers who also played division 1 football. One played at Florida as well, two of them played at Clemson, and two of them played at the Citadel. My Cousin Austin played at the University of Alabama and my cousin Kendall ran track for Alabama. My family loves football, and i have high intentions in following the footsteps of my father and my uncles in playing college football. Its my life, and my passion. I also play baseball, im the starting pitcher.


He has two uncles who played at Clemson. Can he overcome bad genetics? :rotfl:

[cjsgamecock]

Well i didnt say offer this kid, but we dont have that much depth......and based on how things ended, it couldnt hurt.

[dumpyloser]

100% My evauation on the topic.... We'll sign him!

He may not get his offer until after NSD, but my prediction is that he'll be here this fall.

[prengr2001]

If we have room -- sign him. Why not? We some competition, and at least his arm looks good, even if his TD/INT ratio is not what we would like. Lets forget about stars and sign him if he's good -- and SOS should be able to figure that out.

[GoonSquad]

If we have room -- sign him. Why not? We some competition, and at least his arm looks good, even if his TD/INT ratio is not what we would like. Lets forget about stars and sign him if he's good -- and SOS should be able to figure that out.

You don't sign random joe shmoe's just for competition.

[GamecockSmitty4]

If we have room -- sign him. Why not? We some competition, and at least his arm looks good, even if his TD/INT ratio is not what we would like. Lets forget about stars and sign him if he's good -- and SOS should be able to figure that out.

Competition? What happened to Hillary and McCollum?

[happygilmore527]

no offers yet

[GoonSquad]

no offers yet

If he gets one it will be as he is leaving the school. I don't see it coming though.

[CWoodson24]

Clifford has received an offer.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Clifford has received an offer.

I hate to say it but this kid looks like another QB project too me. I will say I would be extremely happy to be wrong about that.

[GamecockSmitty4]

Honestly, I don't think he's gonna see the field at all. Hillary and McCollum got scholarship offers for a reason. Plus, Garcia is sitting up there in the driver's seat.

[CWoodson24]

I hate to say it but this kid looks like another QB project too me. I will say I would be extremely happy to be wrong about that.
Makes two of us. I've met him and he's not overly big or impressive looking. I'm not impressed at all by his film. I was surprised when I heard he got an offer.

[GTjacket]

He has committed.

[GamecockSmitty4]

$10 says this thread doesn't get over 8 pages.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Hey, who knows, maybe he is better than we think.

[GamecockSmitty4]

Hey, who knows, maybe he is better than we think.

Yep. And I'd LOVE for him to be, but sitting behind Garcia, Hillary, and McCollum is not a great place to start for a guy who got very few offers.

[GTjacket]

Trust G.A.

[dieselcock]

somebody must have seen something in this young man. As long as we have room,and he's a good student athlete,then we need to give him a chance before everyone freaks out.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Yep. And I'd LOVE for him to be, but sitting behind Garcia, Hillary, and McCollum is not a great place to start for a guy who got very few offers.

I think this is mere insurance more than anything. I also think that you need some guys who are willing to be a career backup and on paper this may be one of those guys.

[wilsonhallbarons]

so hes committed?

[CWoodson24]

Yep, he did.

[GamecockSmitty4]

I think this is mere insurance more than anything. I also think that you need some guys who are willing to be a career backup and on paper this may be one of those guys.

Like Matt Cassel until this year? Hmm.... Great thought. Lol. Yeah, I'm not putting any stock into this kid, however I'd love for him to be able to do something great. Like I said earlier, I doubt he even sees the field. But hey, who knows? I'm not bashing him at all, but where he's sitting right now doesn't have a great view.

[USCocks3]

Wow...I hope Mr. Clifford reads Cockytalk so he can see how excited we are to have him here!!

Listen to yourselves. "Career backup", "sitting behind Hillary and McCollum (two guys who ALSO haven't played a snap) isn't a good place to be."

Let's give the kid a chance. He may turn out to be our best QB. No one knows.

Welcome Andrew, glad to have you here as a Gamecock!!

[USCBASEBALL1]

He's definitely a gamble imo. I think people will be watching Boyd and if he proves to be a gamer and Clifford is a non-factor people will naturally wonder if our Coach can evaluate QB's anymore. That may sound a little tough but after watching our QB's recently I think to question our QB decisions is justified. Now hopefully Clifford can go out there and prove me wrong.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Wow...I hope Mr. Clifford reads Cockytalk so he can see how excited we are to have him here!!

Listen to yourselves. "Career backup", "sitting behind Hillary and McCollum (two guys who ALSO haven't played a snap) isn't a good place to be."

Let's give the kid a chance. He may turn out to be our best QB. No one knows.

Welcome Andrew, glad to have you here as a Gamecock!!

Not trying to knock the kid but come on man, he basically had no other offers.

[GamecockSmitty4]

Wow...I hope Mr. Clifford reads Cockytalk so he can see how excited we are to have him here!!

Listen to yourselves. "Career backup", "sitting behind Hillary and McCollum (two guys who ALSO haven't played a snap) isn't a good place to be."

Let's give the kid a chance. He may turn out to be our best QB. No one knows.

Welcome Andrew, glad to have you here as a Gamecock!!

Dude. Chill out. Let me ask you this. Is he going to start right away after having very little practice, no spring practice, and with Garcia, Hillary, and McCollum all there? No. It's as simple as that. I'm glad he's here and hope that he gets the chance to shine. I've said that I'd love for him to turn out to be something, but as for now, he's not in a great position to do that. But here, IF he ever reads this, I'll do exactly what you want me to do.
Andrew Clifford- You are amazing. You are the best QB I have ever seen. I am going to put so much pressure on you and go as far as saying you are the Savior of this football program.

There, is that better?

[eaddy1847]

I guess we offered him? Or is he coming without a scholly?

[LiveandDieGC]

February 01, 2009

Clifford Commits To USC

By Phil Kornblut

QB Andrew Clifford (6-3 210) of Tampa committed Sunday to USC after receiving an offer from Steve Spurrier. Clifford came to Columbia this weekend for his official visit without an offer. He becomes the 27th commitment for this USC class. Last season Clifford passed for 2263 yards and 20 touchdowns.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20090201/PSPORTS02/902010295/-1/PSPORTS

[Dr. Cock]

I view it as a GOOD thing that he doesn't have the pressure to be the next savior in line of this program. Obviously, that notion got to Garcia's head and hasn't allowed him to live up to his potential yet.

Well, as long as he's got potential, it's better than having nothing IMO. He could be groomed into a solid player by Mangus.

[CarolinaBoy407]

He's definitely a gamble imo. I think people will be watching Boyd and if he proves to be a gamer and Clifford is a non-factor people will naturally wonder if our Coach can evaluate QB's anymore. That may sound a little tough but after watching our QB's recently I think to question our QB decisions is justified. Now hopefully Clifford can go out there and prove me wrong.

No doubt Boyd is a good quarterback, but I think he may have some attitude issues which we definately do not need. I think many of you see no stars next to Clifford and are automatically looking for flaws.

I trust G.A. and Spurrier. A little coaching may do him some good. We all know he can sling the ball. Just have to work on those INTs. This is a good pickup in my opnion.

Welcome to the Gamecock family.

[USCocks3]

Dude. Chill out. Let me ask you this. Is he going to start right away after having very little practice, no spring practice, and with Garcia, Hillary, and McCollum all there? No. It's as simple as that. I'm glad he's here and hope that he gets the chance to shine. I've said that I'd love for him to turn out to be something, but as for now, he's not in a great position to do that. But here, IF he ever reads this, I'll do exactly what you want me to do.
Andrew Clifford- You are amazing. You are the best QB I have ever seen. I am going to put so much pressure on you and go as far as saying you are the Savior of this football program.

There, is that better?

Ok, chief. Real mature response.

I don't need to explain myself or my comments, I just don't like to see a kid get thrown under the bus before he ever steps foot on campus.

[GamecockSmitty4]

Ok, chief. Real mature response.

I don't need to explain myself or my comments, I just don't like to see a kid get thrown under the bus before he ever steps foot on campus.

Seriously? I threw him under a bus because I said that he is not in a great position to get much PT? What part of that is throwing him under a bus, or even a lie? I NEVER said that this kid was a bad QB. I'm just saying that with Hillary, McCollum, and GARCIA ahead of him, unless he proves to be an amazing QB, he won't get a good shot at starting. THAT'S ALL! I welcome him as a Gamecock and look forward to hearing about him. HOWEVER, I am not willing to put a lot of stock into him and act as if he is the savior of this team. If he isn't, well, good luck to him. I hope he has fun. If he is, that's GREAT! BUT, right now, coming in as a true freshman, with no spring practice and having to learn a complex system, I'm not going to raise him on my shoulders just yet. I'd DEFINITELY give him a chance. BUT, he won't get much of a chance right now. Now, can you PLEASE tell me what part of that is "throwing him under a bus?"

[dieselcock]

Go look at his film. He has quick feet,quick release,and seems to be a good decision maker. He makes good throws under a lot of pressure. I think most people are more worried about our star rankings on the board than anything else. I can think of a few teams now that have, or have had outstanding QB's in the recent past, that I bet was not 4-5 star QB's.Vandy,S.Fla.Wake....you can't judge this kid on past failures,and I for one am glad to see him get achance.

[USCBASEBALL1]

No doubt Boyd is a good quarterback, but I think he may have some attitude issues which we definately do not need. I think many of you see no stars next to Clifford and are automatically looking for flaws.

I trust G.A. and Spurrier. A little coaching may do him some good. We all know he can sling the ball. Just have to work on those INTs. This is a good pickup in my opnion.

Welcome to the Gamecock family.

Nothing to do with anything more than pure ability. FYI - Boyd does not have an attitude. His Coach said he was one of the most dependable leaders he ever had and worked harder than anyone else on the team. He also played all season with a torn ACL so he wouldn't let his teammates down. Its funny when we do not get a Blue Chipper its something to do with attitude lol. I watched Cliffords film and his mechanics are poor. Nothing to do with Stars.

[snoopy]

Charlie Whitehurst went to Clemson when nobody thought he would play college ball....IMO he was one of Clemson's best QB when they needed him the most.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Go look at his film. He has quick feet,quick release,and seems to be a good decision maker. He makes good throws under a lot of pressure. I think most people are more worried about our star rankings on the board than anything else. I can think of a few teams now that have, or have had outstanding QB's in the recent past, that I bet was not 4-5 star QB's.Vandy,S.Fla.Wake....you can't judge this kid on past failures,and I for one am glad to see him get achance.

Shot puts the ball and throws off his back foot. I will agree he is a good athlete but he is another project at best. Why do you folks think he had no other offers if he was so good? Also, threw a bunch of int's.

Just hope we do a great job of Coaching him up.

[USCBASEBALL1]

Charlie Whitehurst went to Clemson when nobody thought he would play college ball....IMO he was one of Clemson's best QB when they needed him the most.

Not true at all ... He was a 3 Star QB lol and had several offers....

[GamecockSmitty4]

Not true at all ... He was a 3 Star QB lol and had several offers....

Just curious. Did you know remember that off the top of your head or look it up?

[CarolinaBoy407]

Well I for one do not trust the judgment of talent from people on this board. I look at everyone's suggestions and then see what the coaches do. I think they are in a better position to make those decisions than we are. I don't think we woulda offered if we didn't see something there. You have to give the kid a chance before you start criticizing him with all your "expertise". A quarterback is better than none and some of you need to chill.

[CWoodson24]

Well I for one do not trust the judgment of talent from people on this board. I look at everyone's suggestions and then see what the coaches do. I think they are in a better position to make those decisions than we are. I don't think we woulda offered if we didn't see something there. You have to give the kid a chance before you start criticizing him with all your "expertise". A quarterback is better than none and some of you need to chill.
There is nothing wrong with people expressing their opinions. No one is trashing the kid, just stating what they think and what they've observed. It's your opinion that you trust the coaches and don't trust us, it's our opinion that we trust our own eyes.

[dieselcock]

You would throw off the back off your foot to if you had three DL's in your face. Looked more like a case of a bad OL.He does have a funny delivery,but that's something good coaching can change.Only time will tell.

[athenscock2]

S. Fl., Wake and Vandy qbs had offers out of HS. This kid had no offers. that ought to tell you something.

[CarolinaBoy407]

You would throw off the back off your foot to if you had three DL's in your face. Looked more like a case of a bad OL.He does have a funny delivery,but that's something good coaching can change.Only time will tell.

Yeah. You are right. But the kid does have an arm. He can sling it pretty far.

[SClawman]

Got an offer from Spurrier and committed according to PK.

[gamecock231983]

i dont care if he has 5 stars or 1 star sos and G.A. Saw something in this kid that they liked so they offerd him i trust our coach im happy this kid wants to play here and what if he is a project it could be a great one so welcome ANDREW hope you have a great time at your new school best of luck to ya

[Blake]

sos likes him so i like him. TM said he can make all the throws that sos demands. All qb's are projects and should not be playing in there first two years, and if this kid is playing before his redshirt sophmore-jr year then we will have major issues.

[CarolinaBoy407]

^^ Thank you. Finally.

[prengr2001]

OK. I'm not an administrator, but I think the bashing on this thread needs to stop. We just got a committment from a young man who our coaches thought worthy of offering a scholarship. If a few jerks on here think they have football figured out more than SOS and our football staff, then maybe we should start talking about why they are such underachievers and sit in the stands rather than roaming the sidelines. The truth is that if SOS wanted to offer the kid, he's got someone on his side that is more knowledgeable of the QB position than any one of the posters on this site. So stop the bashing and be glad that we got a committment from a young man who wants to be a GAMECOCK. And, by the way, I remember a similar thread when a two star player from FL committed to us by the name of Patrick DiMarco -- what a steal he has been.

[CarolinaBoy407]

OK. I'm not an administrator, but I think the bashing on this thread needs to stop. We just got a committment from a young man who our coaches thought worthy of offering a scholarship. If a few jerks on here think they have football figured out more than SOS and our football staff, then maybe we should start talking about why they are such underachievers and sit in the stands rather than roaming the sidelines. The truth is that if SOS wanted to offer the kid, he's got someone on his side that is more knowledgeable of the QB position than any one of the posters on this site. So stop the bashing and be glad that we got a committment from a young man who wants to be a GAMECOCK. And, by the way, I remember a similar thread when a two star player from FL committed to us by the name of Patrick DiMarco -- what a steal he has been.

:bow::clap:

[snoopy]

Sonny Jurgerson (sp) from the Redskins had the ugliest throws I have ever seen but he got them to the recievers and the Redskins won.

[USCBASEBALL1]

The next Johnny Unitas ... is that better.

Sorry my opinion was not the same as yours. Hopefully he turns out better than Tommy Beecher, Cade Thompson, Chris Smelley. I know they were great too. We can just take anyone and Coach them up. We have proven that right.

[brockmartin77]

OK. I'm not an administrator, but I think the bashing on this thread needs to stop. We just got a committment from a young man who our coaches thought worthy of offering a scholarship. If a few jerks on here think they have football figured out more than SOS and our football staff, then maybe we should start talking about why they are such underachievers and sit in the stands rather than roaming the sidelines. The truth is that if SOS wanted to offer the kid, he's got someone on his side that is more knowledgeable of the QB position than any one of the posters on this site. So stop the bashing and be glad that we got a committment from a young man who wants to be a GAMECOCK. And, by the way, I remember a similar thread when a two star player from FL committed to us by the name of Patrick DiMarco -- what a steal he has been.


I agree, we are on the outside looking in. We as fans need to be happy to see a young QB want to be a gamecock. Heart goes a long way fellas.:thumbsup:

[cofcgamecock9]

The next Johnny Unitas ... is that better.

Sorry my opinion was not the same as yours. Hopefully he turns out better than Tommy Beecher, Cade Thompson, Chris Smelley. I know they were great too. We can just take anyone and Coach them up. We have proven that right.

I understand your point, but categorizing this kid because of what Smelley, Beecher, etc. have done at USC is unfair to the kid. He is not Tommy Beecher and he is not Chris Smelley. So acting like he will not do anything at SC because of the history of Smelley or Beecher is unfair to the kid.

I am sure that we have many wide receivers that failed before Sidney Rice and Kenny McKinley that were in the same "category" as far as starts. How about Ko Simpson? I bet we had plenty of safeties that ended up not amounting to much before him that were rated about the same.

My point is just that it is up to the player to decided his future, not what was done before him. So what Beecher and Smelley did at SC has absolutely NOTHING to do with what this kid will do. He may do better and he may do worse.

[CarolinaBoy407]

$10 says this thread doesn't get over 8 pages.

Well...we are at 8 pages. You might owe us all 10.00.

:thumbsup::lol::thumbsup:

[Coondog]

sos likes him so i like him. TM said he can make all the throws that sos demands. All qb's are projects and should not be playing in there first two years, and if this kid is playing before his redshirt sophmore-jr year then we will have major issues.


Finally, someone actually gets it. The fact that we have QB's in front of him means nothing. Obviously this kid has potential or Spurrier wouldn't have offered him. Who knows what kind of QB he will be in a couple of years, he may just end up to be the perfect fit for Spurrier's system.

Welcome aboard Andrew and best of luck to you.

[Dr. Cock]

The next Johnny Unitas ... is that better.

Sorry my opinion was not the same as yours. Hopefully he turns out better than Tommy Beecher, Cade Thompson, Chris Smelley. I know they were great too. We can just take anyone and Coach them up. We have proven that right.

Well, technically, Smelley WAS a 4 star QB. But continue...

:lol:

[carolinafan2]

No doubt Boyd is a good quarterback, but I think he may have some attitude issues which we definately do not need. I think many of you see no stars next to Clifford and are automatically looking for flaws.

I trust G.A. and Spurrier. A little coaching may do him some good. We all know he can sling the ball. Just have to work on those INTs. This is a good pickup in my opnion.

Welcome to the Gamecock family.

Geez we only have like what 3 of those kinda QB's on our team, who can sling the ball, but only need to work on the INT's. This guy has offers from NO ONE. If he was even ok, he would have offers from a decent D-1 school.

I'm tired of this "trust Spurrier" thing with the QB. We trusted him with Beecher, Thompson and Smelley and where has that led us? Without Mitchell, Spurrier would be crying right now. He has won with Lou Holtz's players and we all know it. We need to go after top notch QB's who are legitimately good via stats, film etc.

Oh and on Boyd, the guy comes form a great family. He is very well disciplined. He was never allowed to party of anything and he doesn't even have his license. His parents are very strict. I highly doubt he has any "attitude" issues. He's from a great family and I think we missed out on him.

[Dr. Cock]

I think the recruiting forum needs some cleaning up after all the annoucements today...

[carolinafan2]

[/B]

Finally, someone actually gets it. The fact that we have QB's in front of him means nothing. Obviously this kid has potential or Spurrier wouldn't have offered him. Who knows what kind of QB he will be in a couple of years, he may just end up to be the perfect fit for Spurrier's system.

Welcome aboard Andrew and best of luck to you.

He also offered Beecher, Thompson, and Smelley.

[CharlieStrong]

lmao at Boyd having attitude issue. Does being unsure of where you want to spend the next four or five years of your life mean you have attitude problems? Boyd's better than Clifford, unquestionably. I wish and hope Clifford does well, but I'm not going to just sit here and proclaim him a sleeper because Spurrier thinks so. I'll let him prove himself.

[detective29]

After considering what i wrote, I have decided to withdraw my comments. I am ecstatic Andrew Clifford is here and being given a shot at out QB job. He appears to be hard working and wants to play for Spurrier (even if he gets yelled at). Go out there and break every QB record ont he books!!!!!
Welcome Andrew Clifford!!!!!:woo:

[reddot8481]

The way I see it, Beecher and Cade were offerred because Spurrier wanted to get a couple QB's to try and groom them plus he had just been hired and wanted to fill out a class. Thompson transferred, Beecher didn't pan out so he is rolling the dice on Clifford. Whether this turns out to be a stopgap move because Smelley transferred remains to be seen. I HOPE that SOS knew that Smelley was going a month or so and decided to go ahead and offer this kid because he had watched tape and liked what he saw. From what I understand they were going to offer this kid "preferred walkon" status even before Smelley left. Whether this kid ever sees the field or not, he is a Gamecock and I will cheer for him.

Welcome Andrew Clifford!!!!!:woo:

Or maybe SOS picked up a QB that could back up the ones we have and develop into a better player. Don't forget we have two other QB's in the stable with talent.

[scottycock]

i can't believe some of these posts from "fans" WELCOME ANDREW!!! i'm glad you're here.

[CarolinaBoy407]

Geez we only have like what 3 of those kinda QB's on our team, who can sling the ball, but only need to work on the INT's. This guy has offers from NO ONE. If he was even ok, he would have offers from a decent D-1 school.

I'm tired of this "trust Spurrier" thing with the QB. We trusted him with Beecher, Thompson and Smelley and where has that led us? Without Mitchell, Spurrier would be crying right now. He has won with Lou Holtz's players and we all know it. We need to go after top notch QB's who are legitimately good via stats, film etc.

Oh and on Boyd, the guy comes form a great family. He is very well disciplined. He was never allowed to party of anything and he doesn't even have his license. His parents are very strict. I highly doubt he has any "attitude" issues. He's from a great family and I think we missed out on him.

Well then maybe you should be our coach then since you can do such a better job. Give me a freakin break man. This kid hasn't even stepped onto campus and you are not giving him a shot. No, he was not highly recruited. No, he doesn't have stars. Yes, he has a lot of INTs. But we do not know the circumstances. His line wasn't overly impressive at all.

I hope this kid turns out to be the Tim Tebow of USC just so I can point and laugh at all you naysayers. Cut the kid some slack. Our coaches see something and that is all we need. There are TONS of recruits we have picked up over the years that, in the initial stages, look like we shouldn't have. Dimarco, Captain, Cook, Rice, etc are all in this category.

The last thing we need are players up and leaving like Smelley did. It makes the school look terrible when we are such rabid fans that we kill out own. He may pan out, he may not, but we won't know until we coach him up and put him out there.

Some of you need a lesson in civility, patience and understanding. It might just do you some good instead of all these terrible knee jerk reaction comments I am seeing on this board.

Again, welcome Andrew. Pay no attention to the flamers that are already trying to bring you down.

:-x:-x:-x

[CockRoche]

lmao at Boyd having attitude issue. Does being unsure of where you want to spend the next four or five years of your life mean you have attitude problems? Boyd's better than Clifford, unquestionably. I wish and hope Clifford does well, but I'm not going to just sit here and proclaim him a sleeper because Spurrier thinks so. I'll let him prove himself.
CIGARO???

[uscfan1]

Whoever is bashing the kid....are ya'll the same people that hate it when fans boo?

[wilsonhallbarons]

CIGARO???
haha i was thinkin the same thing!

[uscfan1]

PUT YOURSELF IN SPURRIES SHOES. They needed a QB in this class from a numbers standpoint after losing Smelley. We need some role players on this team at QB, so that Garcia can just go and play without looking over his shoulder. IF we would have went after a big name, we would have been back in the same situation.

If Garcia has a bad game now, then I'm pretty sure everyone will still want the team to stick it out with instead of just going to the next guy. If we brought in another big name QB in this class it would not have worked out from a team standpoint.

[jayceecock]

There is a starting NFL QB that was also overlooked by every D1 school. The only school that gave him a chance was Coastal Carolina because they were starting a football team and needed players.

I guess we all know who Tyler Thigpen is. But, I bet most of you didn't know him when he played at Coastal Carolina.

After watching Clifford's tape and watching Tyler play at Coastal, these two are very similar in arm strength, field presence and football smarts. Clifford is a tad taller, Tyler is a little heavier.

It took Tyler three years to mature into a good QB, and it will take Clifford just as long. With the proper coaching, I think Clifford will be a good QB in the mold of Petty. I'm sure he has good work ethic, and I hope he has a great career at Carolina.

[cjsgamecock]

PUT YOURSELF IN SPURRIES SHOES. They needed a QB in this class from a numbers standpoint after losing Smelley. We need some role players on this team at QB, so that Garcia can just go and play without looking over his shoulder. IF we would have went after a big name, we would have been back in the same situation.

If Garcia has a bad game now, then I'm pretty sure everyone will still want the team to stick it out with instead of just going to the next guy. If we brought in another big name QB in this class it would not have worked out from a team standpoint.




I agree, a big name would have resulted in the same thing that happened last year with smelley and garcia, and we all saw how that panned out. But i think this kid has a great chance at becoming a good player, he already has a lot of heart and im sure all the people saying negative things are the same ones that used to wish for a team full of cory boyd's. You know no one knows whats going to happen, thats kind of the fun part of watching these kids develop. Im glad we offered him and im glad he accepted. Welcome Andrew.....IM glad you are a Gamecock.

[Cockholio]

Clifford puts the smackdown on the naysayers..

" Clifford did not have any other major offers besides USC and he knows people will question his ability because of that. "People don't know my situation," he said. "I came from a school that was run based my junior year and I didn't get all the stats and all the stars," he said. "I didn't get all that much attention because we ran the ball. That's different from the kids who throw the ball for 3000 yards. But I went to the Elite 11 camp and beat out kids who were getting major offers. People can say what they want but I know I'm going to work hard and do everything I can to help South Carolina win."


http://www.goupstate.com/article/20090201/PSPORTS02/902010287/-1/PSPORTS

[uscfan1]

I am not saying I told ya so...said this a while back. I was pretty sure their offense was run-based. Did not see how a kid with his abilities has NR.

[InProblematique]

Clifford puts the smackdown on the naysayers..

" Clifford did not have any other major offers besides USC and he knows people will question his ability because of that. "People don't know my situation," he said. "I came from a school that was run based my junior year and I didn't get all the stats and all the stars," he said. "I didn't get all that much attention because we ran the ball. That's different from the kids who throw the ball for 3000 yards. But I went to the Elite 11 camp and beat out kids who were getting major offers. People can say what they want but I know I'm going to work hard and do everything I can to help South Carolina win."


http://www.goupstate.com/article/20090201/PSPORTS02/902010287/-1/PSPORTS
good for him. If he wants to be a Gamecock, and is willing to work, I think we owe it to him to give him a shot.

-Conner

[happygilmore527]

Well that makes me feel better about his situation. I still think he will end up being depth with occasional playing time but I would love for him to succeed. He's got as much chance as the next guy.

[CarolinaBoy407]

Exactly what I said earlier. "We don't know the circumstances".

I hope he works his butt off and becomes a very successful quarterback. It is looking, however, that we may have found a potential diamond in the ruff. This is exactly why I let my coaches do the recruiting. They know more about the situation than I do.

[Goofyboy]

On the film, he looks to have a really low release - about ear level. That will probably have to change. Side-armers, even at 6-3 are wasting a lot of their height advantage.

[Regalcock]

On the film, he looks to have a really low release - about ear level. That will probably have to change. Side-armers, even at 6-3 are wasting a lot of their height advantage.

Blake's was about the same way. He did have passes batted at the line on occasion.

Welcome Andrew!!

[Blake]

if you watch his vids his throwing motion looks identical to all the qbs we have had under sos.

[reddot8481]

People can say what they want but I know I'm going to work hard and do everything I can to help South Carolina win

That's all I need to hear welcome aboard look forward to seeing you on the field.

[garnet4ever]

Glad we picked him up ... welcome to the Gamecock Family!

[11SWU10]

Alan Mitchell was offered on the last day. He was headed to a DII school but we lost a guy at the last minute so he was offered by the Morrison Staff. He wanted to be at Carolina and was a hard worker. He played at a AA high school in state, not a 5A in Florida, nobody thought he would start most of the games in Carolina's 10-2 season.

You never Know. (I am aware that Mike Hold was a major contributor to the 10-2 season, but not the starter or game manager.)

This guy's work ethic may force others to change their approach and make the best of their ability. HARDWORK AND EFFORT WILL MOVE AHEAD OF LAZY TALENT.

[atrain3067]

Welcome aboard Cliff!

[LegalCock]

Didn't know he was an Elite 11 QB. Weird that he didn't get any offers, seems that alone would lead to some offers.

[usc1]

Didn't know he was an Elite 11 QB. Weird that he didn't get any offers, seems that alone would lead to some offers.

He wasn't http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=3490003 But for some reason, he was there anyway.

[CoverTwo]

I believe that this is a guy that Spurrier will mold somewhat quietly then throw out into the fire his Junior year.

[CoverTwo]

He wasn't http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=3490003 But for some reason, he was there anyway.

It could've been one of the regional camps.

[JoeCock]

I'm glad he is going to be here and I am excited about his enthusiasm.

I love having players like this. They usually have the attitude of trying prove everybody wrong and work their tails off to do it.

Personally, I used to love for someone to tale me that I couldn't do something and I want to see this hit page 10.:rotfl:

[GoonSquad]

Welcome Mr. Clifford. I hope you do well here.

[F4rpoole]

Welcome Andrew, I look forward to seeing you play.
:clap::cocky::clap::cocky::clap:

[NXS]

Were glad you accepted Andrew. Welcome to the Gamecocks. :woo:
Man I really like this kids attitude. We sure could have used a little of that last season.

[JoeCock]

Were glad you accepted Andrew. Welcome to the Gamecocks. :woo:
Man I really like this kids attitude. We sure could have used a little of that last season.

That's what I like about the most.

[wilsonhallbarons]

People can say what they want but I know I'm going to work hard and do everything I can to help South Carolina win

That's all I need to hear welcome aboard look forward to seeing you on the field.
:woo::woo:

[CoverTwo]

Clifford's team beat Jarvis Giles' team this year.

He also took him the gold jersey for passing accuracy at the regional Elite 11 camp in Alabama.

Also, our staff had known about him for a while but had to wait to see what happened to a few other recruits before they went after him because the original intentions were to not sign one..but with us missing out on a few other prospects and the transfer of Chris Smelley plus G.A. Mangus' nod, we took him.

[Regalcock]

Clifford's team beat Jarvis Giles' team this year.

He also took him the gold jersey for passing accuracy at the regional Elite 11 camp in Alabama.

Also, our staff had known about him for a while but had to wait to see what happened to a few other recruits before they went after him.

ahhh...good info CT. pts:clap: I like it..Accuracy that is.

[GamecockSmitty4]

Clifford's team beat Jarvis Giles' team this year.

He also took him the gold jersey for passing accuracy at the regional Elite 11 camp in Alabama.

Also, our staff had known about him for a while but had to wait to see what happened to a few other recruits before they went after him.

Not bashing him or anything, but that seriously concerns me. According to his TD/INT ratio, it would seem he doesn't have good accuracy at all. Maybe it was his receivers? Maybe his O Line? Maybe he's just not as good in game situations? Whatever it is, obviously the staff saw something in him. I don't think he'll get a good shot to prove himself, but I hope he does and he can really do something with it.

[CoverTwo]

Also, I know I have said this once before but Clifford plays in the highest classification in Florida I believe..so its not like he has to adjust THAT much like Smelley did going from 2-A in Alabama to SEC.

[CoverTwo]

Not bashing him or anything, but that seriously concerns me. According to his TD/INT ratio, it would seem he doesn't have good accuracy at all. Maybe it was his receivers? Maybe his O Line? Maybe he's just not as good in game situations? Whatever it is, obviously the staff saw something in him. I don't think he'll get a good shot to prove himself, but I hope he does and he can really do something with it.

If you watch his tape, he barely had time to throw..He was spending most of his time running for his life..but when he had time, he threw some really good balls.

[CoverTwo]

Oh, and G.A. Mangus is VERY high on this guy from what I have been told..and thats all the news I have.

[GamecockSmitty4]

If you watch his tape, he barely had time to throw..He was spending most of his time running for his life..but when he had time, he threw some really good balls.

Thanks for the info. I just haven't seen enough of his tapes to really know much about him. I can only go by stats right now.

[Blake]

he threw for 20 tds and 10 picks. thats not that bad. your only as good as the team around you. he can make all the throws.

[The Yancey]

You are correct about the class his school plays in. I'm shaking a few trees over his way and we'll see what fruit drops.

Also, I know I have said this once before but Clifford plays in the highest classification in Florida I believe..so its not like he has to adjust THAT much like Smelley did going from 2-A in Alabama to SEC.

[TampaTitan]

You are correct about the class his school plays in. I'm shaking a few trees over his way and we'll see what fruit drops.


Not to split hairs, but he plays in the second highest classification. After starting the season 0-2 he led Wharton to 9 straight victories before bowing out to a great team in the regional semi-finals. Against Jarvis' team he led them in a second half come back to win the district title. Kid is good and I think in time will be a solid college QB. Dad played for the Gators back in the day, so they know what it takes to be a D-1 college football player.

[GoonSquad]

Clifford will be a good one in a few years.

[cjsgamecock]

$10 says this thread doesn't get over 8 pages.




Hey so when do we all get paid.....just wondering

[Cock Football 05]

Hey so when do we all get paid.....just wondering


yeah...I accept cash or money order, thanks!

but to stay on topic. Glad to have you aboard Andrew...you can excel with Spurrier and Mangus!!!

[gamecocknva]

This guy's attitude is refreshing. Most recruits feel some entitlement to a scholarship. He seems genuinely thrilled to be a gamecock and to have a chance to play for our program. I hope it pans out for this kid.

[Coondog]

He has the tools, ambition, work ethic, and most of all wants to be a Gamecock. The way I see it we're lucky we got this kid, he has all the potential to be great in a few years.

Welcome aboard Clifford! Glad your part of the family now.

[GamecockSmitty4]

I hope he redshirts. Give him a year to work out, be with coaches and teammates, learn the system, and just work on his skills. Then give him a shot.

[Cock Football 05]

Would not be surprised at all to see his redshirt next season.

[CoverTwo]

Check this out: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=62334

[GamecockSmitty4]

Check this out: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=62334

I read that earlier. From the way they talk, he could really flourish here.

[Cock Football 05]

Check this out: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=62334


Pts for the link!!!

Sleeper in the quarterback class.
:thumbsup:

[Acockolypse Now]

Let's see, lack of arm strength, doesn't look the safety off...

Are you sure this isn't Smelley's scouting report?

All kidding aside, who knows what this kid is capable of? The staff has seen enough to think he's worth a scholarship, so I say welcome aboard. How highly recruited was Flaco coming out of HS? The truth is, you never really know. Obviously he was NOT highly recruited, and he may be nothing more than a clipboard holder while he's here, but so what? Sounds like he's got a great work ethic, and leadership qualities that (frankly) our team REALLY needs.

He's a Gamecock now, and that means I support him! Prove 'em wrong Clifford!

[CoverTwo]

Joe Flacco was actually a 3 star QB that committed to Pitt and had offers from Rutgers, Temple, Va Tech, Akron, and UCF

[GamecockSmitty4]

Didn't he also say he was second or third on a lot of team's lists as well? Just a bunch of bad luck.

[Acockolypse Now]

Damn CoverTwo, you're TOO good!!!!!!!!!!

[USCBASEBALL1]

I just don't understand our lack of attention that we put on the QB situation this year. I can say that this is THE POSITION that has held back this program for the last 4 years. I hope those that are ecstatic about this pickup are right about him.

[Dr. Cock]

Let's see, lack of arm strength, doesn't look the safety off...

Are you sure this isn't Smelley's scouting report?

All kidding aside, who knows what this kid is capable of? The staff has seen enough to think he's worth a scholarship, so I say welcome aboard. How highly recruited was Flaco coming out of HS? The truth is, you never really know. Obviously he was NOT highly recruited, and he may be nothing more than a clipboard holder while he's here, but so what? Sounds like he's got a great work ethic, and leadership qualities that (frankly) our team REALLY needs.

He's a Gamecock now, and that means I support him! Prove 'em wrong Clifford!

Smelley was actually well thought of prospect. He had a 5.8 rating on Rivals, and Alabama went after him after they lost out on Tebow. He also had offers from Tennessee, Ole Miss, and Louisville.

I'll wait and see for Clifford though. I think it's a good thing he doesn't have massive expectations thrown on him. It certainly didn't do Garcia any good. He'll have time to develop since he will be a solid 4th string QB on the depth chart and will be thrown into the mix when he is truly ready.

[CoverTwo]

I just don't understand our lack of attention that we put on the QB situation this year. I can say that this is THE POSITION that has held back this program for the last 4 years. I hope those that are ecstatic about this pickup are right about him.

I can't complain too much because we are gearing up to sign 2 if at all possible next year..Also, one way to look at it is that Clifford doesnt have the overbearing expectations of the fan base (just Spurrier)..he is going to get every opportunity to develop..But it wont be until next year until the fans get another one of the "saviors".

[CoverTwo]

and it looks like he is going to be rated at 2 stars for those that want to know.

[Cock Football 05]

and it looks like he is going to be rated at 2 stars for those that want to know.


Thanks

[CrampsInMahPants]

I am not bashing AC....but this pick up smells of desperation. Unless Clifford is some kind of hidden gem, none of his numbers, measurables, or offers scream SEC QB. Again...NOT BASHING...just first impression.

The old "stars" debate has raged on for a long time...but it still bears repeating that on AVERAGE the 4-5 star players fair better in college OVERALL than the 1-3 star guys...not always, but most of the time. Matter of fact, there's a statistical model floating out there in cyber space that backs that up...I'm too lazy to find it.

Having said that, there is always a chance that an unheralded 2-star makes a big splash, but it's very unlikely. I would rather our coaches hit those big named 4-5 star guys....the stats bear out the success.

BUT, I suppose we have to trust the coaches.

[TheGuitarCock]

I am not bashing AC....but this pick up smells of desperation. Unless Clifford is some kind of hidden gem, none of his numbers, measurables, or offers scream SEC QB. Again...NOT BASHING...just first impression.

The old "stars" debate has raged on for a long time...but it still bears repeating that on AVERAGE the 4-5 star players fair better in college OVERALL than the 1-3 star guys...not always, but most of the time. Matter of fact, there's a statistical model floating out there in cyber space that backs that up...I'm too lazy to find it.

Having said that, there is always a chance that an unheralded 2-star makes a big splash, but it's very unlikely. I would rather our coaches hit those big named 4-5 star guys....the stats bear out the success.

BUT, I suppose we have to trust the coaches.

It was too late in the process for us to go after a big time QB. The only reason we offered AC is because GA Mangus wanted to bring in a QB in this class. Is the AC a great QB? Nah. But does he have the body and mechanics to be developed by GA into a good QB? Yes. He's already said he is going work hard to be the best he can be, thats good enough to me.

Here is a video....

http://64.237.99.126/clips/NPN2009FL113.wmv

[CrampsInMahPants]

It was too late in the process for us to go after a big time QB. The only reason we offered AC is because GA Mangus wanted to bring in a QB in this class. Is the AC a great QB? Nah. But does he have the body and mechanics to be developed by GA into a good QB? Yes. He's already said he is going work hard to be the best he can be, thats good enough to me.

Here is a video....

http://64.237.99.126/clips/NPN2009FL113.wmv

It will be interesting to see what GA can do with him.

[reddot8481]

In all honesty I'm surprised we even went after a QB in this class, we were not expected to really until after smelley left. With the previous three classes we have enough to fit. Also there has been a move towards a more balanced attack with more focus supposedly on the run. I think that these two factors really are why this pick up is not as big a deal.

[USCBASEBALL1]

I can't complain too much because we are gearing up to sign 2 if at all possible next year..Also, one way to look at it is that Clifford doesnt have the overbearing expectations of the fan base (just Spurrier)..he is going to get every opportunity to develop..But it wont be until next year until the fans get another one of the "saviors".

I would be the first in line to say I was wrong - would not be the first - and hope he turns out to be a top flight QB. Does seem to have great genes which is huge. I agree with you C2 that you never really know what any of these kids are going to do.

Here is some film on him ...

http://64.237.99.126/clips/NPN2009FL113.wmv

[Blake]

man this kid has a very very accurate arm.

[JM1984]

Welcome aboard, and best of luck to you. Plenty of folks told me I couldn't go to medical school, in May I'll officially be a GamecockDoc, so keep after kid.

[GamecockSmitty4]

After watching his tape, he did impress me on some of his throws. What I saw:
-Good pocket awareness
-Not very fast but can gain extra time stepping out of the pocket
-Very good passer when on the run
-Hangs the ball WAAAY too much on the deep throws
-Throws behind the receiver a lot on intermediate throws
-Very intelligent as far as ball placement
I see why our coaches liked him and chose to offer him. With some practice and coaching, he could turn out to be pretty good, especially with our tall WRs.

[ShutTheSuccop]

^also not afraid to take a hit

[reddot8481]

The only thing is mechanics, he has a strange delivery, its a nice quick release but its almost like he's shot putting it. gotta work on that. Good accuracy and strength though.

[The Yancey]

He has a bad case of happy feet but GA can coach him up on that. Looks like he has all of the basic building blocks to me!

[GamecockSmitty4]

He has a bad case of happy feet but GA can coach him up on that. Looks like he has all of the basic building blocks to me!

Did you see his O Line though? He will come in here feeling the same way even if our O Line is good, just because he'll be used to it, but like you said, with a little work with GA, he should get better on that.

[talon]

Phillip Rivers had an odd delivery as well. Hope Clifford turns out similarly.

[ShutTheSuccop]

hell, wuerffel (sp?) had a shotput release and he did well under spurrier

[GamecockSmitty4]

hell, wuerffel (sp?) had a shotput release and he did well under spurrier

Oh. Just well? That's it? Nothing special? Lol. JK. But we gotta stop with these comparisons now. Now we're setting ourselves up for disappointment.

[Cock Football 05]

Wuerffel is the name I keep thinking about when thinking about this kid. Was Wuerffel a heavily recruited guy?

[CoCk aLot]

Rivals now has him a 3 star

[Cock Football 05]

Rivals now has him a 3 star


pleasant surprise right there!

[ShutTheSuccop]

Wuerffel is the name I keep thinking about when thinking about this kid. Was Wuerffel a heavily recruited guy?

that is who I thought of watching the video....and like UF in those days, his receivers were wide open for hte most part.

[TheGuitarCock]

Yep. 3 star. For all of you people that doubted the kid was "good enough" just because he didn't have stars.

[GamecockSmitty4]

And he's given a 75 on ESPN. That's a D in my school!

[CoverTwo]

Rivals now has him a 3 star

That is very surprising.

[CockOla]

And he's given a 75 on ESPN. That's a D in my school!

LOL! It's not how you start but how well you finish. Let's hope he finishes well.

[Blake]

i noticed none of his recievers got hardly any yards after catch. think if this kid would of had some talent around him like aaron murray. I think he is a very solid prospect.

[CrampsInMahPants]

Yep. 3 star. For all of you people that doubted the kid was "good enough" just because he didn't have stars.

Let's see what Mangus can do with this kid. I admit, I have my doubts simply because of his offers and stars, and stats/size, etc. I will certainly wait and see what our great new coaches can do with him!

[WeHailThee]

Its possible that he had no playmakers on his team to do anything with the ball. I don't know, I haven't done any research on him. Hopefully he'll enter the mix at some point, but I could not imagine him or anyone else challenging Garcia for the starting job next year.

[Acockolypse Now]

Well, now that he's a 3 star!....

Just kidding. I can say though, after watching his film, that he's certainly got potential. Floats the ball a bit too much on the longer routes, but he is accurate as all get-out and does a fantastic job of throwing the screen. Great ability to lead runners on the short passes, which is a HARD thing to do, especially off the play fake. Noticed a few times as well that he was throwing off his back foot occasionally due to pressure, and yet he still managed to place the ball. I'm also not AS concerned about arm strength after watching the film.

Give him a redshirt and a chance...

[CoverTwo]

I bet he can drill that slant pattern too.

If he can hit the corner, slant, curl/hook, and square in routes..he will be fine..We all know he can throw the screen..The deep post would be a plus as well..but I'm not sure he has the arm to get it down there..we'll see though.

[StillWaitin']

And he's given a 75 on ESPN. That's a D in my school!


yes, but thats a C at most colleges

[GamecockSmitty4]

yes, but thats a C at most colleges

Public High School, man.

[The Rooster]

Public High School, man.

I dont know what highschool you went to but at my public high school a 75 was a D .

[clemson sucks]

At my High School 70-72 is D and 73-79 is a C.

[GamecockSmitty4]

I dont know what highschool you went to but at my public high school a 75 was a D .

That's what I said. 75 is a D.

[DrFuNk328]

Hopefully the kid and Hillary can give Garcia some competition and some incentive to keep his out of trouble so he can keep his job.

[donbgamecock]

Hopefully the kid and Hillary can give Garcia some competition and some incentive to keep his out of trouble so he can keep his job.

What about McCollum?

[brockmartin77]

Our new QB has a 3 star rating on rivals.

[GoonSquad]

Our new QB has a 3 star rating on rivals.


Was just about to post this. NICE

[spursc]

old news

[wilsonhallbarons]

Our new QB has a 3 star rating on rivals.
thats pretty good for a kid who was getting pretty much no attention till we started talking to him:clap: