PETA to meet with Gamecocks!

[cack]

... from someone in Rendezvous ... PETA is in town to talk to USC ... about our logo ... he said ... they are talkin' to USC offical's about taking the spur off of the logos ... and just havgin the logo of the "Gamecock" with no spur ... has anyone other than cack heard about this ... from a drunk guy ... what do ya'll think?

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EDITED BY COCKYHOSKINS:

I just had this faxed to me.

http://www.cockytalk.com/uploads/PETA.pdf (http://www.cockytalk.com/uploads/PETA.pdf)

It is a press release! :mad:

[Spurticus]

... from someone in Rendezvous ... PETA is in town to talk to USC ... about our logo ... he said ... they are talkin' to USC offical's about taking the spur off of the logos ... and just havgin the logo of the "Gamecock" with no spur ... has anyone other than cack heard about this ... from a drunk guy ... what do ya'll think ... oh yeahg i'm a little PUI

:beer:

I've been sitting on this all day long, and keeping it off the board. But I heard from a guy at work, that there's something to it. He says the University is at least willing to discuss it !!

:-x :-x :-x

My feeling.......If we give in on this, The Gamecock will be gone altogether before long

[holtznspurrier62]

F OFF PETA

[YouCanNeverTell]

I've been sitting on this all day long, and keeping it off the board. But I heard from a guy at work, that there's something to it. He says the University is at least willing to discuss it !!

:-x :-x :-x

My feeling.......If we give in on this, The Gamecock will be gone altogether before long
If the university wasn't willing to discuss it then it would make them look bad. I don't see anything ever coming of this simply because of the number of animals that are used as mascots by NCAA teams. It would be too great of a task even for the almighty PETA to take on.

[Spurticus]

If the university wasn't willing to discuss it then it would make them look bad. I don't see anything ever coming of this simply because of the number of animals that are used as mascots by NCAA teams. It would be too great of a task even for the almighty PETA to take on.

I hope you're right YCNT. This is from the guy that I've mentioned before. (the one with the friend that works with the athletic dept). His exact words were That a rep from PETA and the NCAA would be coming in soon, and that the university says they would consider it.

[Spur's Addiction]

... from someone in Rendezvous ... PETA is in town to talk to USC ... about our logo ... he said ... they are talkin' to USC offical's about taking the spur off of the logos ... and just havgin the logo of the "Gamecock" with no spur ... has anyone other than cack heard about this ... from a drunk guy ... what do ya'll think ... oh yeahg i'm a little PUI

:beer:

I was there too. I heard that guy talking but I think he just read that article from the Jackson guy in the senate. Nothing to worry about.

[COCKDIESEL]

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/images/spacer.gif

These are the people that want us to change a friggin mascot. Look at what they do.



PETA's Dirty Secret:thumbs:

Hypocrisy is the mother of all credibility problems, and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has it in spades. While loudly complaining about the "unethical" treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, the group has its own dirty little secret.

PETA kills animals. By the thousands.

From July 1998 through the end of 2004, PETA killed over 12,400 dogs, cats, and other "companion animals" -- at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That's more than five defenseless animals every day. Not counting the dogs and cats PETA spayed and neutered, the group put to death over 85 percent of the animals it took in during 2003 alone. And its angel-of-death pattern shows no sign of changing.

YearReceivedâ€*AdoptedKilledTransferred% Killed% Adopted20052,1451461,9466990.76.820042,6403612,278 186.313.720032,2243121,911185.914.020022,6803822,2 98285.714.320012,6857031,9441472.426.220002,684624 2,0292875.623.219991,8053861,3289173.621.4* 199894313368512572.614.1Total17,8063,04714,4193318 0.117.1
* figures represent the second half of 1998 only
â€* other than spay/neuter animals
» skeptical? click here to see the proof (http://www.petakillsanimals.com/downloads/PetaKillsAnimals.pdf)

On its 2002 federal income-tax return, PETA claimed a $9,370 write-off for a giant walk-in freezer, the kind most people use as a meat locker or for ice-cream storage. But animal-rights activists don't eat meat or dairy foods. So far, the group hasn't confirmed the obvious -- that it's using the appliance to store the bodies of its victims.

In 2000, when the Associated Press first noted PETA's Kervorkian-esque tendencies, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk complained that actually taking care of animals costs more than killing them. "We could become a no-kill shelter immediately," she admitted.

PETA kills animals. Because it has other financial priorities.

PETA raked in nearly $29 million last year in income, much of it raised from pet owners who think their donations actually help animals. Instead, the group spends huge sums on programs equating people who eat chicken with Nazis, scaring young children away from drinking milk, recruiting children into the radical animal-rights lifestyle, and intimidating businessmen and their families in their own neighborhoods. PETA has also spent tens of thousands of dollars defending arsonists and other violent extremists.

PETA claims it engages in outrageous media-seeking stunts "for the animals." But which animals? Carping about the value of future two-piece dinners while administering lethal injections to puppies and kittens isn't ethical. It's hypocritical -- with a death toll that PETA would protest if it weren't their own doing.

PETA kills animals. And its leaders dare lecture the rest of us.

[blackdeath05]

I think we should do a protest!!!

[MDCox]

We have all become wusses if USC even talks to them. What happen to this country?

[spurmanski]

I love the Gamecocks and the Cock with Spurs...that said, the practice (not sport) of cockfighting is really awful.

Here's the deal though, our mascot does nothing to advance the practice of cockfighting in Vietnam, Mexico or in the backcountry Georgia woods...if you want to effect change...then risk yo butt in Stephens County or Na Trang

[ultimatetailgater]

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/2982

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
(http://www.petakillsanimals.com/)

[cack]

/\ i agree .. we should kept the fugkin spur

PUI

[theuscerock]

I'll show them what they can do with our spurs!
That is just crazy!
Cant they find something better to spend their time and money on???

[mickeyrivers]

I love the Gamecocks and the Cock with Spurs...that said, the practice (not sport) of cockfighting is really awful.

Here's the deal though, our mascot does nothing to advance the practice of cockfighting in Vietnam, Mexico or in the backcountry Georgia woods...if you want to effect change...then risk yo butt in Stephens County or Na Trang
seriously... i've been living in columbia going on 6 years and i've never heard of any underground cockfighting rings or anything. go to mexico and save the chickens down there. get off our backs.

it's like martha burke and the n.o.w. protesting augusta when there are women being beaten and denied rights in countries all over the world (specifically the muslim world but in many other places as well), but yeah let's make sure a handful of filthy rich fat suv driving stupid b*tches can belong to some club and play golf at augusta. nice.

[Cocksincebirth]

:mad: :mad: :mad: This PC bullshit is out of control. Society as a whole needs to grow a sack and stop getting their feelings hurt every time someone looks at them mean. I agree also, Jackson has to go!!!

[blaze]

Why don't somebody send the links to some of the insiders? If we are meeting with the NCAA, and PETA, shouldn't we go armed with knowledge?

[cockyhoskins]

Guys, I'll be the first to say...

this ain't happening.

I don't know who you guys talked to at Rendezvous but this ain't happening.

You must have been talking to someone trying to start a bad rumor.

[SpicyChicken]

Please don't kill the messenger. You know that I don't post a lot but I will always tell you what I hear. I hate to tell you all, but there is some legitimacy to this story. Apparently, Sorenson and some BOT members are going to meet with PETA soon to discuss how we can address their issues.

[cockyhoskins]

Spicy, I trust your postings. I always do. In fact, I think you broke the Sidney Rice surgery before anyone on the 'net.

That being said, if Sorenson is considering even talking to PETA, we need a new President. We are the Gamecocks. End of story.

[cack]

Spicy, I trust your postings. I always do. In fact, I think you broke the Sidney Rice surgery before anyone on the 'net.

That being said, if Sorenson is considering even talking to PETA, we need a new President. We are the Gamecocks. End of story.

yeah i agree ... and i was just PUIing about of my /\$$ but i swear this guy said it ... you knew the guy ... you went up and talked to him last night CH ... garnet shirt and fluffy hair or whatever ... but yeah ... he swore that it was straight up ... peta was coming to town

[egnarts]

I clicked on the link provided in respone #12 by Ultimatetailgater and added my name to the petition to have peta's tax-exempt status revoked. I would encourage everyone to do so.

[cockyhoskins]

I must have been PUI too! I don't even remember talking to him about that! :lol:

[Spurticus]

The University can do whatever they want to, but these Spurs ain't comin' Off for PETA or NOBODY !!!!

:mad:

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2458/fightingcockwithc7ck.jpg

[SangareeCrew]

If they are talking with PETA with plans to tell them something like "F off, go ahead and TRY to take it to court, there's really nothing you can do about the SPUR", then I am ok with it.

But the minute we let PETA bully the University of South Carolina around is truly a SAD DAY for USC. I hope and pray we don't give into these far left liberal whack-jobs who can't do anything productive in life so they go around looking for something to be offended at.

F*&^ PETA. I have absolutely no use for such a hypocritical, holier than thou bunch of thugs and liars. They can all go to hell for all I care.

KEEP THE SPUR. Tell PETA to shove the SPUR up their A$$E$!!!!

[GapoGamecock51]

KEEP THE LOGO AS IT IS (http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?rooster1) petition (click on link)


I think some of us could care less what PETA does, but I still think Sorenson and Hyman need to know where we all stand on this issue............I will allow this some reasonable time to make the rounds amongst the Gamecock fan here and that all yall know...Then I will mail it to President Sorenson and AD Hyman and Gov. Sanford. all I ask is this

1. If you comment, please no profanity
2. make your e-mail address private
3. Sign with your first and last name
4. Please pass it around.


Secondly, to Chuck Hoskins, please read the petition and let me know publicly or in PM if CockyTalk is in endorsing the petition. I will send a letter to SOrenson, Hyman and sanford expressing our concerns in depth and with the petition, per your approval.


Yall help me out..........This isnt neccesarily a petition for change, just the easiet medium for us to send a combined letter to Hyman, Sorenson and to ask Governor Sanford for some support......If Sorenson, Hyman and Sanford act positively in our Favor due to this expression of Support for the current Gamecock logo, so be it.........I just want Hyman and Sorenson particularly to know we Cocky-Talkers give a crap about who attacks our logo.


GAPO

[cockyhoskins]

Secondly, to Chuck Hoskins, please read the petition and let me know publicly or in PM if CockyTalk is in endorsing the petition.

No need to PM my response. I think it is safe to say that

WE ARE THE GAMECOCKS!

[GapoGamecock51]

When i send it Ill send the letter included with it on Cockytalk letter head


Chuck when is a good time to send it?

[GapoGamecock51]

e-mail, IM IT, get it out fella's!!!


post it where ever you think it would be viewed and signed

[Spur]

CH, I hate to be on the other side but I have heard that this rumor DOES in fact have legs

Sorry, bro

[tptgamecock]

Doesn't anyone think a Tiger needs to be removed as a mascot!! why doesn't PETA care about that???????:puke:

[GapoGamecock51]

I was going to say an e-mail campaign might be effective to, but on USCSPORTS, Hymans e-mail isnt listed........... http://uscsports.collegesports.com/school-bio/scar-staff-directory.html

[cockyhoskins]

Gapo, I wouldn't send anything yet. As of right now, this is just an internet rumor. Let's wait until there is some evidence something is going to happen. I don't think anything will ever come of this and we don't want to raise a fuss over nothing.

[GapoGamecock51]

Chuck,

Yeah I thought the same thing, a wee-bit to early, no need to tick someone off....Guess this issue is kind of "hot-button" with me and Im jumping the gun.

Atleast we are prepared if something does go down at USC, better safe than sorry.........and I have already had some folks from here sign the petition

[GapoGamecock51]

P.S.

Im still curious why Hymans e-mail address isnt listed...you'd think he had a generic .edu address with his name or what not on it, and a personal e-mail address for personal messages..........Hmmmmmmm!

[SNEEZ]

I've got about 10 forums that I hop on sometimes(only two daily...cockytalk, and CSRAmotorsports) and I'll post the link up there ASAP

[GamecockLawyer]

Spicy, I trust your postings. I always do. In fact, I think you broke the Sidney Rice surgery before anyone on the 'net.

That being said, if Sorenson is considering even talking to PETA, we need a new President. We are the Gamecocks. End of story.
I think he should meet with PETA, listen to what they have to say, and then say, "Thanks for your input, we'll take it under advisement, but we will do what is in the best interests of the traditions of USC."

And then keep the mascot the way it is.

It's a slippery slope. If the spurs come off, the next thing you know, PETA will be saying that just the Gamecock itself is offensive and it needs to be replaced. If you give these PETA people an inch, they will take a mile. I think it's best to let them say what they want to say, and have a meeting with them, to let them feel like they are being heard, and are part of the process. Having done that, USC shouldn't change the mascot.

It's just like the Confederate flag issue to me. Whether or not you want the flag up or down, does the location of a flag actually impact the lives of the people of South Carolina? No. People who are racist aren't racist because a flag is up. They are racist because they're morons. Similarly, people don't have illegal cockfights because the University has a mascot depicting it. They have illegal cockfights because they're criminals with no respect for the law.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

[Spurticus]

I think he should meet with PETA, listen to what they have to say, and then say, "Thanks for your input, we'll take it under advisement, but we will do what is in the best interests of the traditions of USC."

And then keep the mascot the way it is.

It's a slippery slope. If the spurs come off, the next thing you know, PETA will be saying that just the Gamecock itself is offensive and it needs to be replaced. If you give these PETA people an inch, they will take a mile. I think it's best to let them say what they want to say, and have a meeting with them, to let them feel like they are being heard, and are part of the process. Having done that, USC shouldn't change the mascot.

It's just like the Confederate flag issue to me. Whether or not you want the flag up or down, does the location of a flag actually impact the lives of the people of South Carolina? No. People who are racist aren't racist because a flag is up. They are racist because they're morons. Similarly, people don't have illegal cockfights because the University has a mascot depicting it. They have illegal cockfights because they're criminals with no respect for the law.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

I like that soapbox you're on there Lawyer.

:thumbsup:

[psychwr2]

ya know, how does the average rooster feel about this, i mean i don't see a few cock-fight survivors outside of williams-brice with their signs, all you'll get is maby a crow. now i don't know wat that means, but i seriously doubt it's, "SOUTH CAROLINA DISCRIMINATES!"

[Spur's Addiction]

Damn Cack - you really started somthing here. I didn't beleive that guy at Rendevouz last night because he was pretty wasted.

But hearing this from other people makes me nervous. I just don't know what to believe anymmore.

I agree with CH. If this is true and Sorensen and or Hyman agree to change the mascot then we need to find a new President and AD. End of story.

[cack]

yeah i know boss ... i just thought he was talkin out of his /\$$ and i was just PUIin ... but now i guess it makes that guy sound credible ... haha a drunk guy at the bar credible ... that's a good one

[SNEEZ]

Jorgenson cited a list of allegedly mistreated animal mascots at major NCAA member institutions, including:

The University of Texas: Texas’ animal mascot, the longhorn steer commonly known as “Bevo,” makes appearances at Texas Longhorn football games and other events. Bevo is allegedly sedated heavily and forcibly dehydrated prior to football games. “In excessive heat common at field level at football games, this causes a critical risk for the animal’s health.”

The University of Oklahoma: Oklahoma’s white Shetland pony tandem “Boomer” and “Sooner” traditionally lead the “Sooner Schooner” in post-touchdown on-field celebrations at OU’s Memorial Stadium. This breed of pony is allegedly ill-bred for carrying such workloads, especially “at the dangerous rate of speed to which these animals are driven. Several of the ponies have been known to suffer from broken ankles and have had to be euthanized.”

Louisiana State University: For years, LSU has kept a caged tiger on display next to its main basketball arena. “These conditions are cramped and deplorable, unworthy of the most outdated zoological park in the country.” PETA has previously sued LSU to remove the live mascot cage. Auburn University also used to have a similar practice, which it has since discontinued.

United States Naval Academy: Technically known as the Midshipmen, the Naval Academy nevertheless maintains a flock of mascot goats, one of which is often used as the informal mascot “Bill” at various events (the practice dates back to the days when animal livestock was carried aboard naval vessels). “This is easily the ‘most stolen’ mascot in the country. During these episodes the animals are often placed in danger, and several have died. At least one has been intentionally murdered.”

Auburn University: Auburn football’s famous “War Eagle” (actually a falcon through much of the program’s history) performs a traditional flight just above the heads of spectators in the team’s pre-game routine. “Visiting fans have been known to attempt to harm the bird, often throwing debris in its flight path, or attempting to kill the bird with tennis rackets.”

Mississippi State University: The school’s bulldog mascot is allegedly served alcohol prior to football games with co-bulldog SEC rival Georgia. Georgia’s mascot was apparently subjected to the same treatment in the past, but school officials have clamped down on the practice.

The University of Colorado: The handlers of the school’s buffalo mascot “Ralphie” allegedly whip the animal to make it perform pre-game stampedes.

PETA also named its list of “Egregious 18" schools with offensive or demeaning animal imagery, to parallel the NCAA’s list of 18 effected institutions. They are:

Brown University (Bears): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
Georgia Tech (Yellow Jackets): “for anthropomorphization.”
Iowa State University (Cyclones): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright” (the schools logos feature a red bird).
Oral Roberts University (Golden Eagles): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
Princeton University (Tigers): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
Texas Christian University (Horned Frogs): “for picturing an animal walking upright.”
UCLA (Bruins): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes.”
University of California - Santa Cruz (Banana Slugs): “for anthropomorphization.”
University of Florida (Gators): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
University of Kansas (Jayhawks): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
University of Maryland (Terrapins): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
University of Minnesota (Golden Gophers: “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
University of Oregon (Ducks): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
University of South Carolina (Gamecocks): “for supporting the inhumane cockfighting industry.”
University of Wisconsin (Badgers): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
University of Wyoming (Cowboys): “for supporting the inhumane rodeo industry” (the team’s football helmets pictures a bronching buck).
Yale University (Bulldogs): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”
Youngstown State University (Penguins): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.”

[Spur's Addiction]

KEEP THE LOGO AS IT IS (http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?rooster1) petition (click on link)


I think some of us could care less what PETA does, but I still think Sorenson and Hyman need to know where we all stand on this issue............I will allow this some reasonable time to make the rounds amongst the Gamecock fan here and that all yall know...Then I will mail it to President Sorenson and AD Hyman and Gov. Sanford. all I ask is this

1. If you comment, please no profanity
2. make your e-mail address private
3. Sign with your first and last name
4. Please pass it around.


Secondly, to Chuck Hoskins, please read the petition and let me know publicly or in PM if CockyTalk is in endorsing the petition. I will send a letter to SOrenson, Hyman and sanford expressing our concerns in depth and with the petition, per your approval.


Yall help me out..........This isnt neccesarily a petition for change, just the easiet medium for us to send a combined letter to Hyman, Sorenson and to ask Governor Sanford for some support......If Sorenson, Hyman and Sanford act positively in our Favor due to this expression of Support for the current Gamecock logo, so be it.........I just want Hyman and Sorenson particularly to know we Cocky-Talkers give a crap about who attacks our logo.


GAPO

I signed it GAPO - thanks for setting this up.

[SNEEZ]

GIVE IT TO EM!!!!!!!

http://www.peta.org/feat/cockfighting/page/knife.jpg

[cack]

GIVE IT TO EM!!!!!!!

http://www.peta.org/feat/cockfighting/page/knife.jpg

wow that's an intemidating picture ... look at that big boy ... he's just all ready to whoop some /\$$

[SNEEZ]

http://proudrebel.com/rebel/t_shcockfight.jpg

[uscgamecocks09]

Jorgenson cited a list of allegedly mistreated animal mascots at major NCAA member institutions, including:

The University of Texas: Texas’ animal mascot, the longhorn steer commonly known as “Bevo,� makes appearances at Texas Longhorn football games and other events. Bevo is allegedly sedated heavily and forcibly dehydrated prior to football games. “In excessive heat common at field level at football games, this causes a critical risk for the animal’s health.�

The University of Oklahoma: Oklahoma’s white Shetland pony tandem “Boomer� and “Sooner� traditionally lead the “Sooner Schooner� in post-touchdown on-field celebrations at OU’s Memorial Stadium. This breed of pony is allegedly ill-bred for carrying such workloads, especially “at the dangerous rate of speed to which these animals are driven. Several of the ponies have been known to suffer from broken ankles and have had to be euthanized.�

Louisiana State University: For years, LSU has kept a caged tiger on display next to its main basketball arena. “These conditions are cramped and deplorable, unworthy of the most outdated zoological park in the country.� PETA has previously sued LSU to remove the live mascot cage. Auburn University also used to have a similar practice, which it has since discontinued.

United States Naval Academy: Technically known as the Midshipmen, the Naval Academy nevertheless maintains a flock of mascot goats, one of which is often used as the informal mascot “Bill� at various events (the practice dates back to the days when animal livestock was carried aboard naval vessels). “This is easily the ‘most stolen’ mascot in the country. During these episodes the animals are often placed in danger, and several have died. At least one has been intentionally murdered.�

Auburn University: Auburn football’s famous “War Eagle� (actually a falcon through much of the program’s history) performs a traditional flight just above the heads of spectators in the team’s pre-game routine. “Visiting fans have been known to attempt to harm the bird, often throwing debris in its flight path, or attempting to kill the bird with tennis rackets.�

Mississippi State University: The school’s bulldog mascot is allegedly served alcohol prior to football games with co-bulldog SEC rival Georgia. Georgia’s mascot was apparently subjected to the same treatment in the past, but school officials have clamped down on the practice.

The University of Colorado: The handlers of the school’s buffalo mascot “Ralphie� allegedly whip the animal to make it perform pre-game stampedes.

PETA also named its list of “Egregious 18" schools with offensive or demeaning animal imagery, to parallel the NCAA’s list of 18 effected institutions. They are:

Brown University (Bears): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
Georgia Tech (Yellow Jackets): “for anthropomorphization.�
Iowa State University (Cyclones): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright� (the schools logos feature a red bird).
Oral Roberts University (Golden Eagles): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
Princeton University (Tigers): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
Texas Christian University (Horned Frogs): “for picturing an animal walking upright.�
UCLA (Bruins): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes.�
University of California - Santa Cruz (Banana Slugs): “for anthropomorphization.�
University of Florida (Gators): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
University of Kansas (Jayhawks): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
University of Maryland (Terrapins): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
University of Minnesota (Golden Gophers: “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
University of Oregon (Ducks): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
University of South Carolina (Gamecocks): “for supporting the inhumane cockfighting industry.�
University of Wisconsin (Badgers): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
University of Wyoming (Cowboys): “for supporting the inhumane rodeo industry� (the team’s football helmets pictures a bronching buck).
Yale University (Bulldogs): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�
Youngstown State University (Penguins): “for picturing an animal wearing clothes and walking upright.�

Where is clemson on that list?????????

[SNEEZ]

They feel sorry for Clemtech, so they are leaving them alone

[Cockadiddle]

Thanks for the link, Gapo. Hell yeah I signed it!!!!

If you have a few minutes, go check out http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/southpark/season8/southpark-808.htm

It's the script from the 'Douche and Turd' episode, and totally rakes PETA over the coals.

[cockyhoskins]

Ummm guys, I just had this faxed to me by a buddy of mine. It is in PDF so I can't copy and paste. Gapo, you may want to get that petition fired up now.

http://www.cockytalk.com/uploads/PETA.pdf

[cack]

oh crap CH ... that's some sh!t man ... sorry B@$7@RD$

[Cuck Flemson]

I think he should meet with PETA, listen to what they have to say, and then say, "Thanks for your input, we'll take it under advisement, but we will do what is in the best interests of the traditions of USC."

And then keep the mascot the way it is.

It's a slippery slope. If the spurs come off, the next thing you know, PETA will be saying that just the Gamecock itself is offensive and it needs to be replaced. If you give these PETA people an inch, they will take a mile. I think it's best to let them say what they want to say, and have a meeting with them, to let them feel like they are being heard, and are part of the process. Having done that, USC shouldn't change the mascot.

It's just like the Confederate flag issue to me. Whether or not you want the flag up or down, does the location of a flag actually impact the lives of the people of South Carolina? No. People who are racist aren't racist because a flag is up. They are racist because they're morons. Similarly, people don't have illegal cockfights because the University has a mascot depicting it. They have illegal cockfights because they're criminals with no respect for the law.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now.

Your hired! where do we send the Retainer? :thumbsup:

[theuscerock]

Ummm guys, I just had this faxed to me by a buddy of mine. It is in PDF so I can't copy and paste. Gapo, you may want to get that petition fired up now.

http://www.cockytalk.com/uploads/PETA.pdf

Thanks CH
I think we should all call the number listed on the page and give them our mind in a nice adult manner!

[cockyhoskins]

Believe me! I wouldn't do that. We don't want those cooks coming after us. I think we should organize a response like gapo said and send it to the university.

[cack]

agreed CH ... def. don't want them gettin fired up for this

[CofC Cock]

If this is for real, we need to get that petition signed by as many people as possible. CH if it is okay I think we should post the link on as many gamecock sites as possible.

[Spur's Addiction]

Holy $hit.

That is unreal. everyone needs to sign Gapo petition. We cannot let this thing go through!

[GamecockRocker]

I think we need to invite PETA down for a meeting, then take them to a cockfight. :rotfl:

Maybe dinner at Maurice's afterwards. Introduce them to the joys of mustard based BBQ

[Spur]

Ummm guys, I just had this faxed to me by a buddy of mine. It is in PDF so I can't copy and paste. Gapo, you may want to get that petition fired up now.

http://www.cockytalk.com/uploads/PETA.pdf

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[SNEEZ]

I CAN'T SEE IT...WHAT IS IT!!

[cockyhoskins]

It is a press release saying that PETA and Sorenson have a meeting scheduled next week to address their concerns.

[Spur's Addiction]

Here it is. I was a PDF but I converted it.
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/7421/peta3gh.png

[cack]

nicely done sponge

[GamecockRocker]

How about organizing a protest outside Sorensen's office Wednesday?

[gtcarolinafan]

I'm a little worried, yall. I think Sorenson and Hyman will listen to reason, but the PC pressure is always hard to resist. I would be really ticked if they decide to "chicken out" and cave in to this insanity.

:-x :shotgunc: :-x :shotgunc: :-x :shotgunc:

[Cuck Flemson]

I am telling you right now. If Sorensen & Hyman meet their demands they both need to be fired. They better know how many Gamecock donors the University has that are going to be so pissed. I cant believe they are even meeting with PETA. Who really gives a crap what PETA thinks. I am so pissed right now I cant think straight.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[GamecockRocker]

Thats why we need to put pressure on the other side. Make sure they know that this school and it's Alumni, current students, and fans will run them out of town if they cave in.

[SNEEZ]

Fags the whole lot of em

[carolina fan]

OK good one CH, thats a pretty elaborate Fool's Day joke, cmon I know youre going to say April Fools Day right?

[cockyhoskins]

It's March 31st carolina fan!

[usc90grad]

I hope the University officials treat the PETA folks to a nice steak dinner while they're in town.

P eople
E ating
T asty
A nimals

[carolina fan]

will our new mascot be 'The Fighting Sensitive PETA B#%ches' ?

[cack]

I am telling you right now. If Sorensen & Hyman meet their demands they both need to be fired. They better know how many Gamecock donors the University has that are going to be so pissed. I cant believe they are even meeting with PETA. Who really gives a crap what PETA thinks. I am so pissed right now I cant think straight.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

calm down a little cuck no need gettin all excited ... we're all pissed here but no need in letting it ruin you day (not yet anyway) now if they pull this crock of crap ... then we can kick some BUTTOCKS

[cack]

OK good one CH, thats a pretty elaborate Fool's Day joke, cmon I know youre going to say April Fools Day right?

nice try man ... we could only be so lucky :thumbs:

[Cuck Flemson]

If this is an Aprils fool joke I am going to get you guys at the spring game.:lol: :mad:

[GamecockRocker]

calm down a little cuck no need gettin all excited ... we're all pissed here but no need in letting it ruin you day (not yet anyway) now if they pull this crock of crap ... then we can kick some BUTTOCKS

I disagree cack. If they announce it then it's too late to get mad. We gotta make sure they know how bad the blowback will be from this BEFORE they have this meeting.

[Cuck Flemson]

calm down a little cuck no need gettin all excited ... we're all pissed here but no need in letting it ruin you day (not yet anyway) now if they pull this crock of crap ... then we can kick some BUTTOCKS

I cant help it when you talking about USC and the altering of our Logo I am going to get pissed.

:mad:

I might let Cocky Kong out of his cage and send him to PETA!
:lol:

[cack]

I cant help it when you talking about USC and the altering of our Logo I am going to get pissed.

:mad:

I might let Cocky Kong out of his cage and send him to PETA!
:lol:

haha yeah lets do that ... and i'm not gettin all fired up today because i can still feel last night a little :thumbsup: ... last thing i need to do is get all heated ... which we all almost had a throw down when that guy said that ... haha i had a LITTLE to drink at the moment and started droping some bombs big time ... i don't think that guy likes Cack too much anymore :mad: ... i took out my PETA thoughts on him ... SORRY BOUT THAT TOM

[Cuck Flemson]

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7376/blingmonkey8re8ql123peta8fu.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

[Spur's Addiction]

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7376/blingmonkey8re8ql123peta8fu.jpg (http://imageshack.us/?x=my6&myref=http://www.imageshack.us/)

There you go. You get some points for that

[CockADoodalDoom]

Well, normally I would have said to take whatever cack says with a grain of salt; however I just got off the phone with my brother who is a student at USC. He informed me that there is a rumor going around the campus that someone from PETA has been there today. As much as I hate to say it, Cack you may have posted something for once that wasn't total BS. Taking this, as well as Spicy’s post, and then CH’s bombshell….. I don’t know. For once I am at a loss for words. This sucks seeing as how we JUST WON THE NIT, and are having a great spring practice. Guess its God’s way of saying that for everything that goes right for me, something else has to go terribly wrong.

[cack]

Well, normally I would have said to take whatever cack says with a grain of salt; however I just got off the phone with my brother who is a student at USC. He informed me that there is a rumor going around the campus that someone from PETA has been there today. As much as I hate to say it, Cack you may have posted something for once that wasn't total BS. Taking this, as well as Spicy’s post, and then CH’s bombshell….. I don’t know. For once I am at a loss for words. This sucks seeing as how we JUST WON THE NIT, and are having a great spring practice. Guess its God’s way of saying that for everything that goes right for me, something else has to go terribly wrong.


well thank you VERY FREAKIN MUCH :mad:

[CockADoodalDoom]

You are very welcome Cack

[cboom4250]

Can I ask how you've come to this conclusion?

[cack]

watch it watch it ... we know they hear about what happens on message boards and all ... and we do NOT want to get a reputation of bashing our schools officials ... that's not what this site is about ... they have the job for a reason ... and i honestly feel like this matter will be solved ... they are just going to sit down and see what would be best for everyone

[cboom4250]

Oh, I agree 100% Cack, I was just curious why he didn't agree with these officials. Is this due to the PETA thing?

[RW13]

I'm with the roided up Soviet on this one, these two spell trouble, ask ANY bama fan and they are so glad to have gotten rid of Sorensen, wonder why? He caused many many headaches for them, just ask a Bama grad/fan....

[cboom4250]

This is absolutely crazy. There is no way we are changing our mascot though...Sorensen even said, "...to reach an amicable solution..." or something to that extent. I think it will just be a meeting where USC listens to what PETA has to say, and then does nothing to change it...at least that's what i hope...

[CockADoodalDoom]

Cboom, the only thing that worries me is that Sorenson new to his position, and since there is a senator behind PETA, his opinion could be swayed (the whole peer pressure thing). But if this is Sorenson's first move as president, he'll be looking for a new job very quickly!!!! I don't want to have to buy new clothes with another mascot!!!!! I like being the ONLY team in D1 football to have a Gamecock as our mascot!!!!!

[CarolinaCowboy]

The west wasn't won on salad eat BEEF! PETA SUX

[Mecklenburg Cock]

Okay, I just talked to President Sorensen's assistant who keeps his Calendar and she said there the is no meeting w/ PETA on his calendar and that she does not know of any contact or potential meeting unless they are using an alias to get to him.

I said to her "I know you can't believe everything you see on the message boards, but there is a lot of chatter and concern going around about this supposed press release." She assured me that the is no meeting of any kind schedule between PETA and Dr. Sorensen.

[McLovin]

Everybody does realize that today's April Fools Day right? You tend to not get reliable information and serious thoughts today.

[CarolinaCowboy]

Cboom, the only thing that worries me is that Sorenson new to his position, and since there is a senator behind PETA, his opinion could be swayed (the whole peer pressure thing). But if this is Sorenson's first move as president, he'll be looking for a new job very quickly!!!! I don't want to have to buy new clothes with another mascot!!!!! I like being the ONLY team in D1 football to have a Gamecock as our mascot!!!!! Just think about going to a game and not seeing COCKY.

[McLovin]

You should have pretended you were from the Associated Press or something...then you know the info is reliable.

[Spur's Addiction]

Today is March 31. April fools is tomorrow

[Mecklenburg Cock]

Everybody does realize that today's April Fools Day right? You tend to not get reliable information and serious thoughts today.

Tomorrow is April Fool's day.

[cack]

Everybody does realize that today's April Fools Day right? You tend to not get reliable information and serious thoughts today.

that was meant to be an Aprils Fools joke right ... or maybe everyone wanted to play a joke on the whole world ... and today is actually April Fools day and they just called it March 31st to confuse everyone ... hhmmm

[Spur's Addiction]

They may just be saying that because they know an up-roar from the fans is coming.

I hope you are right though.

[cack]

yeah i agree sponge ... knowing how fans would react why wouldn't they try to keep it on the DL

[Mecklenburg Cock]

They may just be saying that because they know an up-roar from the fans is coming.

I hope you are right though.

I hope so too. I told her that there is a lot of concern running around out here. She said there she doesn't know of any press release or any meetings coming up.

The thing to do is to just say "This is not going to change. Our mascot represents a great historical figure in South Carolina history that was also a great historical figure in the fight for the Independence or our Country. We feel privledged that we are able to honor his legend and contributions to our State and Country. Thank you for your concern, but well will make decisions about what's best for The University of South Carolina without the pressure from outside forces." Hell, Hootie Johnson pulled it off with the Masters and Martha Burke and she went away. Hootie's a USC guy, let him take care of this.

Further, PETA doesn't send any money to/or support USC; therefore, they have no right to think their lack of contribution to USC gives them any leverage in the naming or presence of our mascot.

[CockADoodalDoom]

I don't want to Cowboy....

[CockADoodalDoom]

Well said Meclenburg. I really hope your right. I just feel that if they had a meeting like this, they may want to keep it quiet until they reach a decision.

[Mecklenburg Cock]

yeah i agree sponge ... knowing how fans would react why wouldn't they try to keep it on the DL

My thought is that when you start talking about something as passionate as this, and an outside force tries to inflict their will on this type of issue the President's office needs to do everything they can to ease the concerns of their core (Alumni, students, the fans, etc.). These guys are out there everyday just like us and hopefully know that the backlash from dodging the core could mean an end to their careers. Also, I have to believe that if a situation like this came up that Sorensen is on the phone with the board looking for direction knowing that if he makes the wrong move he could be out of a job. That being said, my guess is that the majority of those guys on the board have been around a while and no better than to let someone push them around.

[CockADoodalDoom]

Hope your right Meclenburg

[Section5Gamecock]

Yes I am they are tight as dicks hat ban.Two cheer leaders at the NIT No pep band.Hyman says he flew commercial for the game against UofL and on the school plane for last night what about the $500/per night room and the pregame meal at Tavern On The Green? Hyman is so tight he wouldnt pay a dollar to see a piss ant eat a bale of hay.I could go on and on about this P.S. where is our baseball stadium 2008 yea right.

[spurmanski]

I dont thing she would plainly lie...no way!!!

She may skirt a direct answer but my guess this is just some internet :shotgunc: junk.

[Cocksincebirth]

I hope so too. I told her that there is a lot of concern running around out here. She said there she doesn't know of any press release or any meetings coming up.

The thing to do is to just say "This is not going to change. Our mascot represents a great historical figure in South Carolina history that was also a great historical figure in the fight for the Independence or our Country. We feel privledged that we are able to honor his legend and contributions to our State and Country. Thank you for your concern, but well will make decisions about what's best for The University of South Carolina without the pressure from outside forces." Hell, Hootie Johnson pulled it off with the Masters and Martha Burke and she went away. Hootie's a USC guy, let him take care of this.

Further, PETA doesn't send any money to/or support USC; therefore, they have no right to think their lack of contribution to USC gives them any leverage in the naming or presence of our mascot.

I agree MC. Nicely put. Or we could just tell them to F#@* OFF and run anyone out of office that even mentions a change!!!:mad::-x

[gtcarolinafan]

Hyman seems to be doing a good enough job to me. Let's wait until they make a really big screw-up before bashing them.

[carolinafan53186]

I couldn't believe on that letter when they said the Honorable Senator what the hell his name is from Charleston. I about peed my pants; it's a good thing he's not up here, he'd get impeached. Hey! That's a good idea. We should look into impeaching this Senator from Charleston!

[psychwr2]

why should we change our mascot, it's not offensive, it doesn't harm any animals, and if the logo suposedly discriminates, i don't think many roosters will care

[psychwr2]

i don't know why these bastards from peta would think that we'd be ok with them telling us how to run our school. we've had this name for over a hundred years, so why should we change our name now? because a few homo-sexual canadian liberals say we should, those goshdamn ass-holes can kiss my proud Gamecock lovein ass. because i'm not gonna let them get away with bullshit like this

[NADLO]

Thanks LES, I hope PETA really likes my new signature!!

[DeathValleyMike]

This reminds me of a statement Harrison Ford made in the movie AirForce One. When asked about negotiating with the terrorists,he said........
"If you keep giving a mouse a cookie,sooner or later it will demand a glass of milk."

Basically , if USC gives in to them without a fight the next thing you know,you'll lose the entire mascot. Do'nt let a bunch of tree hugging liberals come to South Carolina and start making useless and sensless demands !

I'm not trying to be funny,(honestly)but if the worst happens,the SC on the baseball team's hats would look awesome on a football helmet! Just my two cents.
Good luck!

[MDCox]

The bottom line is that USC should not meet with them period. If they need to say anything to them at all they can do it with an assistant not with anyone that has a title. And over the phone. Once USC agrees to a meeting with them, PETA will have won. This is political science 101, the person that makes the first move loses. The reason for this is that PETA would be in a superior position. They asked for the meeting: 1) USC agreed 2) PETA gets their issues out and gets media attention (#1 for them) 3) USC has nothing to gain with a meeting and all to lose. The best thing would be to ignore them. Don't give PETA a forum because most people think they are radical. If they get recognized by a Southern mostly conservative school then people may start to think of them as something more than a bunch of lunatics.

[Spurticus]

Well. I hope she's right too Mecklenburg, but here's what I know. The guy that I heard this from told me the day before cack posted it here on the board, and I didn't want to start any rumors until something was made public. I didn't even tell Chuck or any of the Mods here on the board.
Then cack posted it here and I knew it had legs.

The guy that told me this, told me for over a year before Steve Spurrier was hired here, that he was coming to USC to coach. I kept telling him he was full of crap. The day ESPN reported that Spurrier said he was interested in the Florida opening after they got rid of Zook, I went to this guy and said, see, your "Sources" aren't so reliable are they"? He smiled at me and told me not to believe everything you hear on the news. Well.....Spurrier's here now ain't he?
He told me the day before the news reported it that there was going to be a big story soon about some football players breaking into some offices, and that we'd probably loose 4 or 5 players. Next day it was released and all over the news, and TV/radio

I asked him again today if he was sure about the PETA thing, and he told me there had already been some conversation with them and the university, and that the University was going to make a big announcement about the PETA meeting next week.................You decide

[tptgamecock]

Well. I hope she's right too Mecklenburg, but here's what I know. The guy that I heard this from told me the day before cack posted it here on the board, and I didn't want to start any rumors until something was made public. I didn't even tell Chuck or any of the Mods here on the board.
Then cack posted it here and I knew it had legs.

The guy that told me this, told me for over a year before Steve Spurrier was hired here, that he was coming to USC to coach. I kept telling him he was full of crap. The day ESPN reported that Spurrier said he was interested in the Florida opening after they got rid of Zook, I went to this guy and said, see, your "Sources" aren't so reliable are they"? He smiled at me and told me not to believe everything you hear on the news. Well.....Spurrier's here now ain't he?
He told me the day before the news reported it that there was going to be a big story soon about some football players breaking into some offices, and that we'd probably loose 4 or 5 players. Next day it was released and all over the news, and TV/radio

I asked him again today if he was sure about the PETA thing, and he told me there had already been some conversation with them and the university, and that the University was going to make a big announcement about the PETA meeting next week.................You decide

I understand what you are saying and certainly your source is reliable. If it happens I for one will be very upset. The Gamecock is our mascot and nothing should take that away from us. What ever happened to voting??? If it is seriously being considered then let the students or the fans vote!! It is our school. Not Peta's!! :cocky: :swingcoc: :angrycoc: :happycoc: :clap:

[TerryP]

I'm with the roided up Soviet on this one, these two spell trouble, ask ANY bama fan and they are so glad to have gotten rid of Sorensen, wonder why? He caused many many headaches for them, just ask a Bama grad/fan....

I hope AS does well with USC. I will say, I'm glad he's no longer at the University.

[RGHoskins]

I can't even get into how g--damn infuriating this is to me without offending someone, so I won't. Pick a cause that has a real, not figurative ,meaning! If what you believe in, or claim to believe in is on a f--king T-shirt, you need to reevaluate things! /end rant/

[GamecockRocker]

I can't even get into how g--damn infuriating this is to me without offending someone, so I won't. Pick a cause that has a real, not figurative ,meaning! If what you believe in, or claim to believe in is on a f--king T-shirt, you need to reevaluate things! /end rant/

RG, take a chill pill and read the PETA punk'd thread. We all got taken for a ride. CH and the rest had a little sport with us,

[RGHoskins]

RG, take a chill pill and read the PETA punk'd thread. We all got taken for a ride. CH and the rest had a little sport with us,Oh....lol. Well, my brothers suck and that wasn't funny. .....LMAO. As you may have noticed, I believe organizations like PETA should focus on the things where their efforts can be used to benefit animals. My apologies for the rant.

[GamecockRocker]

no apologies neccesary. I was hyper-pissed Friday before it was revealed to be a hoax.

I was looking at taking time off Wed. to organize protests before I found out I'd been had

[blackdeath05]

Oh....lol. Well, my brothers suck and that wasn't funny. .....LMAO. As you may have noticed, I believe organizations like PETA should focus on the things where their efforts can be used to benefit animals. My apologies for the rant.

:lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: ha ha i hate organizations like that too!! but i think its f*ing hilarious that your brothers didn't tell you about it!!:rotfl:

[Teamoney]

KEEP THE MASCOT THE SAME
USC should never have to change anything having to do with a gamecock. I have been a gamecock since my very first memory and this is the first i have ever heard of this craziness.

The mascot is supposed to be initmidating.

PETA needs to focus on real problems or find a new cause. This is nonsense.

[morgan n' 7]

KEEP THE MASCOT THE SAME
USC should never have to change anything having to do with a gamecock. I have been a gamecock since my very first memory and this is the first i have ever heard of this craziness.

The mascot is supposed to be initmidating.

PETA needs to focus on real problems or find a new cause. This is nonsense. Hey, Teamoney. This was an April Fools joke we played. It was pretty good. Check this out...http://www.cockytalk.com/showthread.php?t=9924&highlight=april+fools

[cack]

:lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl: :lol: :rotfl:

wow ... still pissing people off ... 2 months later

[cockyhoskins]

http://www.cockytalk.com/parody.jpg

[Spur]

:lol:

[Spur]

Easily a HOF thread