The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 

Wow, what a collapse. That was horrible, wasn't it?

I figure we might as well kick it off since it is now the offseason.

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Fire Fredi. That's step one to this offseason. Too bad it likely won't happen. At worst we need to fire the hitting coach.

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My offseason thread went well last year. We paid Dan uggla to wrestle with the .200 mark

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Fredi sucks, that is all

Find a LF, let chipper stay, and Prado to super utility. Chipper played well when healthy, so make sure Prado is there to spell him.

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They have a hitting coach?

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Uggla was one of the best signing of the offseason regardless. He was terrible early, but really turned it around and was the only one that seemed to care on our team offensively in the 2nd half of the season.

Agreed. He also hit 36 bombs. And each were manly

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Not to mention 80 RBIs, which led the team as well as leading the teams in runs scored. And that was mostly in half a season. He will be the key to our team next year for sure. Just gotta get some pieces around him in LF and SS.

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Btw, Congrats to EOF setting the ERA record

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For reference, a site with the contracts

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...braves_15.html

and here is a list of the obligations that we have for the foreseeable future

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...sg&output=html

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Fredi can crap and fall back in it. That is all.

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Derek Lowe, Jair Jurrjens, Tommy Hanson, Brandon Beachy, Mike Minor, Julio Teheran, Randall Delgado, Arodys Vizcaino.

That's 8 deadly pitchers. 3 have to go. Guessing Vizcaino moves to the 'pen as the long reliever/spot starter. Who are the other two to go and how do they go? Possibly make a big trade to get a SS?

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Lowe, deadly?

Yeah... to us, and maybe whatever drivers are on the road when he drinks

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Smitty, you forgot Hudson.

If there was ANY way to get Lowe off the books, we have to do that. I assume we trade Hanson because he brings back more value than Jair with 2 more years of arbitration.

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Hmmm...for some reason I was thinking Hudson was done. Guess not. But that leaves 9, 8 if Viz moves to the 'pen. What do we do with the other 3?

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Trade Hanson, let some of the guys sit in AAA for a bit longer. Put Vizcaino in the Venters role. Trade Venters (as a closer).

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If you were going to trade, why not trade EOF while his stock is as high as it's ever been? Venters is still young and affordable for a while.

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And after the year we've had, I don't think we should be trading any bullpen guys. I'm not up to date on contracts, but I like a 'pen of Moylan, Medlen, EOF, Venters, Vizcaino, Kimbrel and co. Then possibly have a rotation of Hudson, Jurrjens, Beachy, Minor, Teheran with Delgado in AAA and trade Hanson and Lowe.