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Gamecock Rob 09-28-2011 11:51 PM

The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Wow, what a collapse. That was horrible, wasn't it?

I figure we might as well kick it off since it is now the offseason.

GamecockFan7689 09-28-2011 11:53 PM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Fire Fredi. That's step one to this offseason. Too bad it likely won't happen. At worst we need to fire the hitting coach.

JNGolf 09-28-2011 11:54 PM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
It's time for Larry to retire...

cockyjordan3 09-28-2011 11:54 PM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
My offseason thread went well last year. We paid Dan uggla to wrestle with the .200 mark

warriorchief 09-28-2011 11:55 PM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Fredi sucks, that is all

cockyjordan3 09-28-2011 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JNGolf (Post 2865272)
It's time for Larry to retire...

Find a LF, let chipper stay, and Prado to super utility. Chipper played well when healthy, so make sure Prado is there to spell him.

USC62 09-28-2011 11:56 PM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GamecockFan7689 (Post 2865271)
Fire Fredi. That's step one to this offseason. Too bad it likely won't happen. At worst we need to fire the hitting coach.

They have a hitting coach?

GamecockFan7689 09-28-2011 11:56 PM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cockyjordan3 (Post 2865273)
My offseason thread went well last year. We paid Dan uggla to wrestle with the .200 mark

Uggla was one of the best signing of the offseason regardless. He was terrible early, but really turned it around and was the only one that seemed to care on our team offensively in the 2nd half of the season.

cockyjordan3 09-28-2011 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GamecockFan7689 (Post 2865279)
Uggla was one of the best signing of the offseason regardless. He was terrible early, but really turned it around and was the only one that seemed to care on our team offensively in the 2nd half of the season.

Agreed. He also hit 36 bombs. And each were manly

GamecockFan7689 09-28-2011 11:58 PM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cockyjordan3 (Post 2865281)
Agreed. He also hit 36 bombs. And each were manly

Not to mention 80 RBIs, which led the team as well as leading the teams in runs scored. And that was mostly in half a season. He will be the key to our team next year for sure. Just gotta get some pieces around him in LF and SS.

cockyjordan3 09-28-2011 11:59 PM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Btw, Congrats to EOF setting the ERA record

Gamecock Rob 09-29-2011 12:00 AM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
For reference, a site with the contracts

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...braves_15.html

and here is a list of the obligations that we have for the foreseeable future

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...sg&output=html

eaglegolf018 09-29-2011 12:00 AM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Fredi can crap and fall back in it. That is all.

GamecockSmitty4 09-29-2011 12:02 AM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Derek Lowe, Jair Jurrjens, Tommy Hanson, Brandon Beachy, Mike Minor, Julio Teheran, Randall Delgado, Arodys Vizcaino.

That's 8 deadly pitchers. 3 have to go. Guessing Vizcaino moves to the 'pen as the long reliever/spot starter. Who are the other two to go and how do they go? Possibly make a big trade to get a SS?

warriorchief 09-29-2011 12:03 AM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GamecockSmitty4 (Post 2865292)
Derek Lowe, Jair Jurrjens, Tommy Hanson, Brandon Beachy, Mike Minor, Julio Teheran, Randall Delgado, Arodys Vizcaino.

That's 8 deadly pitchers. 3 have to go. Guessing Vizcaino moves to the 'pen as the long reliever/spot starter. Who are the other two to go and how do they go? Possibly make a big trade to get a SS?

Lowe, deadly?

Yeah... to us, and maybe whatever drivers are on the road when he drinks

Gamecock Rob 09-29-2011 12:05 AM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Smitty, you forgot Hudson.

If there was ANY way to get Lowe off the books, we have to do that. I assume we trade Hanson because he brings back more value than Jair with 2 more years of arbitration.

GamecockSmitty4 09-29-2011 12:08 AM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Hmmm...for some reason I was thinking Hudson was done. Guess not. But that leaves 9, 8 if Viz moves to the 'pen. What do we do with the other 3?

Gamecock Rob 09-29-2011 12:11 AM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
Trade Hanson, let some of the guys sit in AAA for a bit longer. Put Vizcaino in the Venters role. Trade Venters (as a closer).

GamecockSmitty4 09-29-2011 12:14 AM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
If you were going to trade, why not trade EOF while his stock is as high as it's ever been? Venters is still young and affordable for a while.

GamecockSmitty4 09-29-2011 12:18 AM

Re: The Official 2011-2012 Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread
 
And after the year we've had, I don't think we should be trading any bullpen guys. I'm not up to date on contracts, but I like a 'pen of Moylan, Medlen, EOF, Venters, Vizcaino, Kimbrel and co. Then possibly have a rotation of Hudson, Jurrjens, Beachy, Minor, Teheran with Delgado in AAA and trade Hanson and Lowe.


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