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sc455 03-12-2013 02:42 PM

frank martin was asked to share his thoughts
 
on the subject of the CLA not being allowed to host post season tournaments.

Frank just said that he has many other issues to think about before that even comes into play and that if and when it comes time for that discussion then he may address the subject.

Seems to me the reporter was just looking for a misstep by frank in how he answered that question. I personally hate questions that try and bait a coach.

FanofCarolina1 03-12-2013 02:59 PM

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Sounds like Coach Martin handled that bait very well.

bryarx 03-12-2013 03:00 PM

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Why is CLA not allowed to host a post season event? NAACP protest or something?

Cocky Mike 03-12-2013 03:04 PM

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Because of the confederate flag hanging on the state house lawn, this is why the Globetrotters do not come to South Carolina as well.

bryarx 03-12-2013 03:06 PM

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Well, that is just stupid, but I guess it isn't just CLA that won't host post season events - it's the entire state right?

Cocky Mike 03-12-2013 03:07 PM

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I am pretty sure that is why we do not have a bowl game as well, but I could be wrong about that.

davidmc467 03-12-2013 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bryarx (Post 3702731)
Well, that is just stupid, but I guess it isn't just CLA that won't host post season events - it's the entire state right?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is the entire state. I remember the ACC pulling their baseball tournament out of Myrtle Beach because of the flag.

I think it is pretty much a fact that the Colonial Life Arena hasn't hosted a first/second round of the NCAA basketball tournament because of the Confederate Flag.

uscGRAD04 03-12-2013 03:35 PM

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Yeah, and the only reason we can host post-season play as far as baseball goes is because that is merit-based rather than a predetermined tournament site

markymark550 03-12-2013 04:21 PM

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This is really a non-issue and a lame bait and hook question. Even if the CLA were allowed to host NCAA tournament games, we wouldn't be allowed to play there anyways. NCAA doesn't allow men's teams to play tournament games on their own home court.

OldPat 03-12-2013 04:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bryarx (Post 3702731)
Well, that is just stupid, but I guess it isn't just CLA that won't host post season events - it's the entire state right?

Thank you, cack, but you missed one.

ReadR00ster 03-12-2013 04:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bryarx (Post 3702726)
Why is CLA not allowed to host a post season event? NAACP protest or something?

Yes, they are in charge of the NCAA apparently.

scfastpitch 03-12-2013 04:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markymark550 (Post 3702806)
This is really a non-issue and a lame bait and hook question. Even if the CLA were allowed to host NCAA tournament games, we wouldn't be allowed to play there anyways. NCAA doesn't allow men's teams to play tournament games on their own home court.

We could host the first couple of rounds in the women's tournament if they still awarded them at the end of the season . But those sites are predetermined now, so I guess that leaves us out .

markymark550 03-12-2013 05:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scfastpitch (Post 3702820)
We could host the first couple of rounds in the women's tournament if they still awarded them at the end of the season . But those sites are predetermined now, so I guess that leaves us out .

You're right in that it could be a relevant issue for the women's team, but it's not for Martin and his teams.

usc90grad 03-12-2013 05:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocky Mike (Post 3702728)
Because of the confederate flag hanging on the state house lawn, this is why the Globetrotters do not come to South Carolina as well.

I'm sure both of their fans were disappointed :lol:

ucan'tlickourcocks 03-12-2013 06:07 PM

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Just to be clear, the NAACP boycotted the state because the Flag was ON TOP OF THE CAPITOL BUILDING. An agreement was reached by the parties that if the flag was removed from atop the Capitol building and moved to the capitol grounds, the boycott would be lifted. Well the flag was moved, but the boycott WAS NOT REMOVED. Now the NAACP demands that it be removed from the state grounds altogether!

Frankly, I don't give a **** about the flag...... I wish they would move it....... but it bothers me that there was an agreement...... and it was broken. You can't keep negotiating with people who keep moving the goalpost during negotiations........

I truly believe in racial equality....... but can you imagine what would happen if we had a "white history month" or "Mrs. White America" or "White Entertainment TV"?

We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD!

As for Coach Martin, I would imagine he believes EXACTLY as I do! We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD! It should not be an issue at all!

rioninusc 03-12-2013 06:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ucan'tlickourcocks (Post 3702862)
Just to be clear, the NAACP boycotted the state because the Flag was ON TOP OF THE CAPITOL BUILDING. An agreement was reached by the parties that if the flag was removed from atop the Capitol building and moved to the capitol grounds, the boycott would be lifted. Well the flag was moved, but the boycott WAS NOT REMOVED. Now the NAACP demands that it be removed from the state grounds altogether!

Frankly, I don't give a **** about the flag...... I wish they would move it....... but it bothers me that there was an agreement...... and it was broken. You can't keep negotiating with people who keep moving the goalpost during negotiations........

I truly believe in racial equality....... but can you imagine what would happen if we had a "white history month" or "Mrs. White America" or "White Entertainment TV"?

We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD!

As for Coach Martin, I would imagine he believes EXACTLY as I do! We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD! It should not be an issue at all!

Good write up. Agreed:clap:

RudeCock 03-12-2013 07:03 PM

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It and our past in the civil war and all wars deserves it's own museum anyway.

Travelin 03-12-2013 07:26 PM

Re: frank martin was asked to share his thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ucan'tlickourcocks (Post 3702862)
Just to be clear, the NAACP boycotted the state because the Flag was ON TOP OF THE CAPITOL BUILDING. An agreement was reached by the parties that if the flag was removed from atop the Capitol building and moved to the capitol grounds, the boycott would be lifted. Well the flag was moved, but the boycott WAS NOT REMOVED. Now the NAACP demands that it be removed from the state grounds altogether!

Frankly, I don't give a **** about the flag...... I wish they would move it....... but it bothers me that there was an agreement...... and it was broken. You can't keep negotiating with people who keep moving the goalpost during negotiations........

I truly believe in racial equality....... but can you imagine what would happen if we had a "white history month" or "Mrs. White America" or "White Entertainment TV"?

We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD!

As for Coach Martin, I would imagine he believes EXACTLY as I do! We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD! It should not be an issue at all!

So she'd have to be white and married?? kinda like a Mrs. White MILF America Pageant? I would watch that.

We had decades of White everything. Why do you think racial relations exploded in the 60's & 70's?

After having white only bathrooms and water fountains, what else white only could you possibly want?

OldPat 03-12-2013 07:33 PM

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[quote=ucan'tlickourcocks;3702862]Just to be clear, the NAACP boycotted the state because the Flag was ON TOP OF THE CAPITOL BUILDING. An agreement was reached by the parties that if the flag was removed from atop the Capitol building and moved to the capitol grounds, the boycott would be lifted. Well the flag was moved, but the boycott WAS NOT REMOVED. Now the NAACP demands that it be removed from the state grounds altogether!

Frankly, I don't give a **** about the flag...... I wish they would move it....... but it bothers me that there was an agreement...... and it was broken. You can't keep negotiating with people who keep moving the goalpost during negotiations........

I truly believe in racial equality....... but can you imagine what would happen if we had a "white history month" or "Mrs. White America" or "White Entertainment TV"?

We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD!

As for Coach Martin, I would imagine he believes EXACTLY as I do! We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD! It should not be an issue at all![/quote



I agree with you that there is no place for racism in a tolerant, just and free society, but we'll never see that day until we understand that racial equality is not something to be negotiated, but rather something to be accorded our fellow man out of a sense of common courtesy.

BTW, you might want to give some thought to the possibility that 'white history month' is what they teach our kids those other eight months school is in session and that 'White Entertainment TV'/'White Miss&Mrs.America's' were all we had for decades.

For the first time in USC history I truly believe we now have a group of Coaches and Administrators who can help our university and state become all it can be in so many ways, not just athletics. Winning is fine and dandy, but that's the real reason it's a great day to be a Gamecock.

pantera17 03-12-2013 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ucan'tlickourcocks (Post 3702862)
Just to be clear, the NAACP boycotted the state because the Flag was ON TOP OF THE CAPITOL BUILDING. An agreement was reached by the parties that if the flag was removed from atop the Capitol building and moved to the capitol grounds, the boycott would be lifted. Well the flag was moved, but the boycott WAS NOT REMOVED. Now the NAACP demands that it be removed from the state grounds altogether!

Frankly, I don't give a **** about the flag...... I wish they would move it....... but it bothers me that there was an agreement...... and it was broken. You can't keep negotiating with people who keep moving the goalpost during negotiations........

I truly believe in racial equality....... but can you imagine what would happen if we had a "white history month" or "Mrs. White America" or "White Entertainment TV"?

We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD!

As for Coach Martin, I would imagine he believes EXACTLY as I do! We should do away with ALL racism...... PERIOD! It should not be an issue at all!

I agree. But there isn't anything racist about the flag anyways.

Oh and we couldn't fit all the great things white people have done into one month anyways. So I say the rest of the ten months are white history months.

Since Mexicans have their own too, that makes 12


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