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2000grad 12-17-2013 03:42 PM

Bowl Tie-Ins via Conference
 
American Athletic Conference
2013:
#1 Bowl Championship Series. Automatic berth to a BCS bowl game.
#2 The Russell Athletic Bowl versus ACC #3.
#3 The Belk Bowl versus ACC #5.
#4 The New Era Pinstripe Bowl versus Big 12 #7.
#5 The BBVA Compass Bowl versus SEC #9.
#6 The Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl versus Conference USA #5.

Atlantic Coast Conference
2013:
#1 Bowl Championship Series. Automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Discover Orange Bowl.
#2 The Chick-fil-A Bowl versus SEC #5.
#3 The Russell Athletic Bowl versus AAC #2.
#4 The Hyundai Sun Bowl versus Pac-12 #4. (Contractually obligated to select ACC Championship Game runner-up, if still available.)
#5 The Belk Bowl versus AAC #3.
#6 The Music City Bowl versus SEC #7.
#7 The AdvoCare V100 Bowl versus SEC #10.
#8 The Military Bowl versus Conference USA #6.
#9 The Fight Hunger Bowl versus Pac-12 #6 (BYU has an agreement in place to be first selection for Fight Hunger bowl; ACC fills slot only if BYU is not bowl eligible).

Big 12 Conference
2013:
#1 Bowl Championship Series. Automatic berth in a BCS Bowl game, preferentially the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl.
#2 The Cotton Bowl Classic versus SEC #3.
#3 The Alamo Bowl versus Pac-12 #2.
#4 The Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl versus Big Ten #4.
#5 The Holiday Bowl versus Pac-12 #3.
#6 The Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas versus Big Ten #6.
#7 The New Era Pinstripe Bowl versus AAC #4.

Big Ten Conference
2013:
#1 Bowl Championship Series. Automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Rose Bowl versus Pac-12 #1.
#2 The Capital One Bowl versus SEC #2.
#3 The Outback Bowl versus SEC #4.
#4 The Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl versus Big 12 #4.
#5 The Gator Bowl versus SEC #6.
#6 The Texas Bowl versus Big 12 #6.
#7 The Heart of Dallas Bowl versus Conference USA # 4.
#8 The Little Caesar's Pizza Bowl versus MAC #2.

Conference USA
2013:
#1 The Liberty Bowl versus SEC #8.
#2 The Hawai'i Bowl versus Mountain West #5.
#3 The Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl [3] versus AAC #6.
#4 The Heart of Dallas Bowl versus Big Ten #7.
#5 The Military Bowl versus ACC #8.
#6 The New Orleans Bowl versus Sun Belt #1.

Mid-American Conference
2013:
#1 The GoDaddy Bowl versus Sun Belt #2
#2 The Little Caesars Pizza Bowl versus Big Ten #8.
#3 The Famous Idaho Potato Bowl versus Mountain West #6.

Mountain West Conference
2013:
#1 The Las Vegas Bowl versus Pac-12 #5.
#2 The Poinsettia Bowl versus Army.
#3 The New Mexico Bowl versus Pac -12 #7.
#4 The Hawaiʻi Bowl versus Conference USA #2.
#5 The Famous Idaho Potato Bowl versus MAC #3.

Pacific-12 Conference
2013:
#1 Bowl Championship Series. Automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Rose Bowl versus Big Ten #1.
#2 The Alamo Bowl versus Big 12 #3.
#3 The Holiday Bowl versus Big 12 #5.
#4 The Sun Bowl versus ACC #4.
#5 The Las Vegas Bowl versus Mountain West #1.
#6 The Fight Hunger Bowl versus BYU or ACC #9.
#7 The New Mexico Bowl versus Mountain West #4.

Southeastern Conference
2013:
#1 Bowl Championship Series. Automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Allstate Sugar Bowl.
#2 The Capital One Bowl versus Big Ten #2.
#3 The Cotton Bowl Classic versus Big 12 #2.
#4 The Outback Bowl versus Big Ten #3.
#5 The Chick-fil-A Bowl versus ACC #2.
#6 The Gator Bowl versus Big Ten #5
#7 The Music City Bowl versus ACC #6.
#8 The Liberty Bowl versus Conference USA #1.
#9 The BBVA Compass Bowl versus AAC #5.
#10 The AdvoCare V100 Bowl versus ACC #7.

Sun Belt Conference
2013:
#1 The New Orleans Bowl versus Conference USA #6.
#2 The GoDaddy Bowl versus MAC #1.

Division I FBS Independents
Of the independent Football Bowl Subdivision teams, there are contractual agreements to play in certain bowl games should they become bowl eligible. All of these teams remain eligible for selection as a replacement team when the conferences do not have enough eligible teams to meet their obligations.
For 2013, the contractual obligations:
Army - Poinsettia Bowl
BYU - Fight Hunger Bowl
Navy - Armed Forces Bowl
Notre Dame - New Era Pinstripe Bowl (Alternate)
Notre Dame also qualifies for a BCS Bowl if they finish in the top 8 in the BCS standings.

Thenardier 12-17-2013 03:51 PM

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Moving to the Locker Room in 3.....2......1.....

ShutTheSuccop 12-17-2013 04:03 PM

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thanks for the info!!!!

2000grad 12-17-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thenardier (Post 4030676)
Moving to the Locker Room in 3.....2......1.....

Well, this does have to do with USC football since we are in the bowl games

IMACOCK 12-17-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 2000grad (Post 4030666)
Southeastern Conference
2013:
#1 Bowl Championship Series. Automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Allstate Sugar Bowl.
#2 The Capital One Bowl versus Big Ten #2.
#3 The Cotton Bowl Classic versus Big 12 #2.
#4 The Outback Bowl versus Big Ten #3.
#5 The Chick-fil-A Bowl versus ACC #2.
#6 The Gator Bowl versus Big Ten #5
#7 The Music City Bowl versus ACC #6.
#8 The Liberty Bowl versus Conference USA #1.
#9 The BBVA Compass Bowl versus AAC #5.
#10 The AdvoCare V100 Bowl versus ACC #7.

One thing I've always noticed (and goes along with the argument of the SEC being the best conference), is that almost all of the SEC teams play a higher "conference-seeded" opponent. Especially since the SEC #2 is usually the #3, the #3 is usually the #4, etc.

uscsandstorm85 12-18-2013 01:36 AM

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The SEC is not as bowl weak as people think.

Regalcock 12-18-2013 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by IMACOCK (Post 4030735)
One thing I've always noticed (and goes along with the argument of the SEC being the best conference), is that almost all of the SEC teams play a higher "conference-seeded" opponent. Especially since the SEC #2 is usually the #3, the #3 is usually the #4, etc.

Exactly.

Carolina4eva 12-18-2013 02:55 AM

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Man....I remember being so excited that year we went to Memphis for the liberty bowl

Clowneygotcha 12-18-2013 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Carolina4eva (Post 4031188)
Man....I remember being so excited that year we went to Memphis for the liberty bowl

That was against Houston in 05 right>Bake Mitchell under center and
Cory Boyd running.

zbadger 12-18-2013 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by IMACOCK (Post 4030735)
One thing I've always noticed (and goes along with the argument of the SEC being the best conference), is that almost all of the SEC teams play a higher "conference-seeded" opponent. Especially since the SEC #2 is usually the #3, the #3 is usually the #4, etc.

Though I agree SEC is best conference, Some things to think about:

The Big Ten usually has 2 teams as well in BCS so the teams are matched evenly mostly in those games.

Also, SEC bowls are in SEC country, Big Ten doesn't get that luxury (lot easier for fan travel, especially important in non BCS bowls.

Lastly, the numbers don't refer to conference rankings, they refer to bowl picking order. For instance, if the Capital One Bowl this year wanted Missouri vs Michigan, they could have done so.

2000grad 12-18-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by zbadger (Post 4031199)
Though I agree SEC is best conference, Some things to think about:

The Big Ten usually has 2 teams as well in BCS so the teams are matched evenly mostly in those games.

Also, SEC bowls are in SEC country, Big Ten doesn't get that luxury (lot easier for fan travel, especially important in non BCS bowls.

Lastly, the numbers don't refer to conference rankings, they refer to bowl picking order. For instance, if the Capital One Bowl this year wanted Missouri vs Michigan, they could have done so.

No one wants to shovel snow off of seats for a bowl game. Come to Lansing, Michigan for a great time...there is snow to see and frostbite to have. There is a big lake with 60 mph winds to make it feel like -20. Great seats are still available. No thanks...people want to go somewhere warm and touristy for a bowl game

JaxcockFL 12-18-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by zbadger (Post 4031199)
Though I agree SEC is best conference, Some things to think about:

The Big Ten usually has 2 teams as well in BCS so the teams are matched evenly mostly in those games.

The rankings disagree with you most years, such as this year.

Also, SEC bowls are in SEC country, Big Ten doesn't get that luxury (lot easier for fan travel, especially important in non BCS bowls.

Why do you think that is? Go cry to your conference about wanting to have Jan 1 bowl games in Minneapolis, Chicago and Indianapolis. We will find other bowl partners that don't consider going to Florida a "Luxury" for the other conference. The ACC would sell their mother again to get into those bowls.

Lastly, the numbers don't refer to conference rankings, they refer to bowl picking order. For instance, if the Capital One Bowl this year wanted Missouri vs Michigan, they could have done so.

Um...ok? So? I guess they could have had Vanderbilt too.

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Carolina4eva 12-18-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Clowneygotcha (Post 4031198)
That was against Houston in 05 right>Bake Mitchell under center and
Cory Boyd running.

Cory and mike davis. Mike gave me his cleats after the game

IMACOCK 12-18-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zbadger (Post 4031199)
Though I agree SEC is best conference, Some things to think about:

The Big Ten usually has 2 teams as well in BCS so the teams are matched evenly mostly in those games.

Also, SEC bowls are in SEC country, Big Ten doesn't get that luxury (lot easier for fan travel, especially important in non BCS bowls.

Lastly, the numbers don't refer to conference rankings, they refer to bowl picking order. For instance, if the Capital One Bowl this year wanted Missouri vs Michigan, they could have done so.

Evenly matched? I guess that's why the Big Ten bowl record vs the SEC is 25-42. Just a side note; the Big Ten has an overall 47-59 BCS-era bowl record which is the third lowest win% just ahead of the MAC and Sun Belt.

Geographically, I could only find stats on all of the BCS bowls. The closer team has only won 53% of the time. Hardly an advantage.

I understand that it refers to which order the bowls pick, but, normally, it follows the conference ranking.

rioninusc 12-18-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zbadger (Post 4031199)
Though I agree SEC is best conference, Some things to think about:

The Big Ten usually has 2 teams as well in BCS so the teams are matched evenly mostly in those games.

Also, SEC bowls are in SEC country, Big Ten doesn't get that luxury (lot easier for fan travel, especially important in non BCS bowls.

Lastly, the numbers don't refer to conference rankings, they refer to bowl picking order. For instance, if the Capital One Bowl this year wanted Missouri vs Michigan, they could have done so.

First paragraph.

Yeah, I can't remember a year where the SEC beat the B1G in every bowl game. The SEC takes the +, but there is always one, or two games a B1G school wins. Last year it was NW, the year before Michigan St.

Second Paragraph.

Don't think there are many bowl games in the north, the weather is the main reason. I am also kind of upset that the SEC doesn't get the clash against the PAC 12 most years. I guess all I had to type up was Money as the answer.

Third Paragraph.

Yeah I was confused on that rule at first, because in 2008 Vandy finished ahead of USC in the conference, but still went to a smaller bowl. Granted USC did finish the regular season 7-5 and Vandy 6-6, but I think Vandy had a better team to face Iowa than USC. I'm just waiting on the year Vandy goes 11-1, and see what the bowls decide. ;)

zbadger 12-18-2013 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JaxcockFL (Post 4031299)
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Originally Posted by IMACOCK (Post 4031362)
Evenly matched? I guess that's why the Big Ten bowl record vs the SEC is 25-42. Just a side note; the Big Ten has an overall 47-59 BCS-era bowl record which is the third lowest win% just ahead of the MAC and Sun Belt.

Geographically, I could only find stats on all of the BCS bowls. The closer team has only won 53% of the time. Hardly an advantage.

I understand that it refers to which order the bowls pick, but, normally, it follows the conference ranking.

Sorry I meant evenly matched in terms of bowl tie in, like Big Ten #3 will play SEC #3 in Capital One Bowl type thing, not evenly matched in terms of talent

I would like to find the stats on non BCS bowls as my guess is geography plays a much larger role in those bowls since there are more secondary market tickets avaliable (just a guess).

Also, my 3rd point is in reference to teams like Michigan, OSU, and Nebraska getting better bowl picks than Iowa, Michigan St, or Wisconsin just because of their name and not because of conference rankings, It seems to happen every year in Big Ten bowl selection. This year it was Minnesota who got shafted. I don't know if SEC runs into the problem as well.

U-Dub Gamecock 12-18-2013 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zbadger (Post 4031974)
Sorry I meant evenly matched in terms of bowl tie in, like Big Ten #3 will play SEC #3 in Capital One Bowl type thing, not evenly matched in terms of talent

I would like to find the stats on non BCS bowls as my guess is geography plays a much larger role in those bowls since there are more secondary market tickets avaliable (just a guess).

Also, my 3rd point is in reference to teams like Michigan, OSU, and Nebraska getting better bowl picks than Iowa, Michigan St, or Wisconsin just because of their name and not because of conference rankings, It seems to happen every year in Big Ten bowl selection. This year it was Minnesota who got shafted. I don't know if SEC runs into the problem as well.

Yes, the SEC has the same issue. If we are in line for a bowl game, and someone like Alabama is competing for the same bowl slot, you can bet the farm that Bama will get it over us.

If you look at it this year, Vandy got screwed. Ended up in Memphis, 2 bowl slots behind UGA, even though they had the same exact record, and Vandy beat UGA this year.

MWard 12-18-2013 11:45 PM

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The Peach ($2.93M) actually pays more than the Outback ($2.5M), weird that they get a later pick.


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