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GSC2013 01-05-2014 04:07 AM

Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Many of my friends are Clemson fans, and honestly, quite a few have said they didn't like that shot Swinney took at USC in the bowl celebration. They said that Orange Bowl win meant so much to them after what happened in the West VA game, and they just didn't think it was the time or place to try to knock back at Spurrier. And I agree. Spurriers was post-game also, but, his just had a different tone to it.

Spurrier has obviously gotten to Swinney and that program.

I ask, would the losses to USC ever get Swinney fired?

What if USC beats Clemson in 2014? 2015? What if this streak starts pushing 7, 8, even 10 games?

Would it ever get to a point that Swinney could be winning 10 games a year, but, at say 7 straight losses to USC he may lose his job over it?

Some may say it is hypocritical, but, Swinney's comments were way more out of line than Spurriers. The win meant so much more to Clemson's program than USC's. USC won another New Years bowl over a BIg10 team. 3rd in a row. Great win, but, not program defining.

The Orange Bowl, for Clemson? The history of that bowl, that team, and their performance there 2 years ago.....no reason Swinney should've even had USC on his mind at that moment. But he did.

And in a funny way.....its great for USC.

mercjason 01-05-2014 04:25 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
no, swinney is safe as long as he has 9+ wins and national respect. As soon as that is gone, though...

TAFC 5 1981 01-05-2014 05:20 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Good question, I think if it gets to 7 he is in trouble (especially since he is returning shots at Spur). The ACC may be week overall, but CU is a good team; at present FSU is better. CU can't win the ACC w/o beating FSU, and can't have any NC dreams w/o beating FSU and SC (I think an ACC team will have to be unbeaten to make the 4 team playoff). I think Bowden having success vs. SC extended his tour at CU but he failed in other areas. I do find it strange DS can beat an SEC team the same year that team beats SC (Auburn, LSU, and GA), but can't get the job done vs. SC. I personally wish he would do less talking.

Gamecock_Aholic 01-05-2014 05:32 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
In all reality that would be stupid. If he can keep getting to BCS bowls and conference championships, that's what matters. As a fan thats hard to understand sometimes.

Travelin 01-05-2014 08:33 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Dabo should keep his mouth shut. He simply doesn't have the wit to verbally spar with Spurrier. He just makes himself look more and more like an idiot when he tries.

Dabo would be wise to take another job if he gets offered. The ACC will be tougher in the next few years and without Tahj, I think their luck is about to run out. Especially if Chad leaves.

wumarshall82 01-05-2014 09:18 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
This next years game and season may be the most interesting one in a while for both schools with talent that is leaving.

What has Spurrier done to keep his job? Beat Clemson?

We haven't been able to get the job done vs SC but we have won a conference championship and a BCS Bowl. SC has beat Clemson but hasn't won a CC or BCS Bowl.

As long as both schools are winning 10+ games a year, nothing will change job wise.

wumarshall82 01-05-2014 09:26 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
I like the mic rivalry between them. It seems that coaches today are socially more pc when speaking about each other since they are in that fraternity and Spurrier and Swinney say screw that.

Coulwoodwarlord 01-05-2014 09:27 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
I don't blame Swinney for knocking it out of the park. It was a big game for them, so he fired the only bullet he had. Tigers love Deebo just as much as we love SOS. He'd really have to fall on hard times for a few years to get canned. Losing to us next year in the Valley will sting like a bitch but if they've got a 10 win season in pocket and a chance to win a decent bowl, all will be forgiven............again.

AtlGAMECOCK 01-05-2014 09:51 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Good question. I think the question should be if they keep losing to us and fsu does he lose his job or does winning 9+ a year help him keep it?


And to answer wumarshalls question he keeps giving us 11 win seasons.

cockybusiness2 01-05-2014 10:19 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Please never fire Dabo... Give him a raise. If Climpsen needs help, most Carolina fans would contribute to that cause

GregoryHouse 01-05-2014 10:51 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
I hope South Carolina wins the east next year.

COCKDIESEL 01-05-2014 11:16 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Travis Haney from ESPN (former USC beat writer) has said he believes this war of words between Spurrier and Dabo is a calculated move by the two to bring exposure to the teams and our rivalry.

Cockypantherfan 01-05-2014 11:57 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wumarshall82 (Post 4048298)
This next years game and season may be the most interesting one in a while for both schools with talent that is leaving.

What has Spurrier done to keep his job? Beat Clemson?

We haven't been able to get the job done vs SC but we have won a conference championship and a BCS Bowl. SC has beat Clemson but hasn't won a CC or BCS Bowl.

As long as both schools are winning 10+ games a year, nothing will change job wise.

11 wins three years running, bringing in top talent... oh, and beating Clemsum FIVE years in a row.

Boast all you want about winning a BCS bowl, but damnit you know you didn't deserve to be there over a team like SC, but it is the stupid 2 team per conference limit that got you there.

Spurrier is recruting at a high level, winning games, and a lot of his players are going to the NFL.

TKE226 01-05-2014 11:59 AM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
both coaches will not be fired. No way spurrier gets fired. Retirement is his next move. Dabo wont be fired unless he has back to back 6/7 win seasons..especially since he continues the talk about taking the next step. If Clemson keeps winning 10 games and losing to Carolina, it wont mean his job.

Travelin 01-05-2014 12:07 PM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by COCKDIESEL (Post 4048344)
Travis Haney from ESPN (former USC beat writer) has said he believes this war of words between Spurrier and Dabo is a calculated move by the two to bring exposure to the teams and our rivalry.

That may be the case now, but no way was that rant by Dabo calculated. He made himself look like a 5 year old that just had his lolly-pop taken away.

scfanz 01-05-2014 12:17 PM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wumarshall82 (Post 4048298)
This next years game and season may be the most interesting one in a while for both schools with talent that is leaving.

What has Spurrier done to keep his job? Beat Clemson?

We haven't been able to get the job done vs SC but we have won a conference championship and a BCS Bowl. SC has beat Clemson but hasn't won a CC or BCS Bowl.

As long as both schools are winning 10+ games a year, nothing will change job wise.


What has Spurrier done???

Are you serious or just plain dumb. Three straight 11 win seasons in the toughest conference in America. Building a top ten football team at a school that all the other 'experts' said could never win.

Go back to Taternet and whine with the rest of your Tater brothers about how you can't beat Carolina.

wincocks84 01-05-2014 12:34 PM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scfanz (Post 4048372)
What has Spurrier done???

Are you serious or just plain dumb. Three straight 11 win seasons in the toughest conference in America. Building a top ten football team at a school that all the other 'experts' said could never win.

Go back to Taternet and whine with the rest of your Tater brothers about how you can't beat Carolina.

And first ever SEC Championship appearance.. but I don't think he was trying to rub it in here. I think he is just reversing the question and asking the same for us. And it is a good one. Would beating Clemson and finishing like we have the past few years with no SEC be good enough? Given our history I say yes.

FanofCarolina1 01-05-2014 12:45 PM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
I really don't think so, but I'm not a tater booster either. I'm thinking if SOS wins two or three more in a row, the boosters might begin to push Dabo out the door.

GregoryHouse 01-05-2014 01:12 PM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Both Coach Spurrier and Coach Swinney will have to deal with growing dissatisfaction from their fan bases even if they continue to have their current outstanding successes.

Coach Swinney has the Clemson job as long as he delivers Conference championships and has his team in the playoff picture.

Steve Spurrier has the South Carolina job until he decides to retire, however his Clemson victories and 11-win seasons have gone a long way to drown out the complaints of critics who say he has never won the SEC or coached the Gamecocks to a BCS bowl or got them into the NC game

ReadR00ster 01-05-2014 01:13 PM

Re: Would Clemson ever fire Swinney over USC losses if they keep going?
 
Clemson doesn't fire anyone until right after they quit.


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