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2000grad 01-20-2014 11:27 PM

Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...er-to-clemson/

Master Bedroom 01-20-2014 11:31 PM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
Seeing as he's already red-shirted he'd be better going JUCO so he could play next year and then pick a school for the 2015 year, imo

jch81 01-21-2014 01:40 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
i saw an earlier report that stated there was a possibility that Kamara could be able to play this year due to the fact that he sat out last year as a redshirt. Dont know how plausible that idea is but with playing time seeming to be a big factor, one would have to think that it could go down that way. I doubt he wants to sit another year. His finalists are FSU, Clemson, and UCLA so it looks like him going the JUCO route isnt on his mind at this point.

gotrice? 01-21-2014 01:47 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by jch81 (Post 4065646)
i saw an earlier report that stated there was a possibility that Kamara could be able to play this year due to the fact that he sat out last year as a redshirt. Dont know how plausible that idea is but with playing time seeming to be a big factor, one would have to think that it could go down that way. I doubt he wants to sit another year. His finalists are FSU, Clemson, and UCLA so it looks like him going the JUCO route isnt on his mind at this point.

I'm pretty sure as long as he was on the roster in football he has to sit out a year. I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure wherever he is going it is going to be as a RS SOPH when he contributes. Also I was under the impression he transferred because he was just unhappy at Bama not PT.

Lonnie 01-21-2014 01:52 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by jch81 (Post 4065646)
i saw an earlier report that stated there was a possibility that Kamara could be able to play this year due to the fact that he sat out last year as a redshirt.

Wishful thinking. Transfer = sit 1 year regardless.

Thenardier 01-21-2014 08:21 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by Lonnie (Post 4065653)
Wishful thinking. Transfer = sit 1 year regardless.

Nope, you guys are wrong. If he redshirted last year he doesn't have to miss a game.

ConwayGamecock 01-21-2014 08:34 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by Thenardier (Post 4065710)
Nope, you guys are wrong. If he redshirted last year he doesn't have to miss a game.

Actually you are wrong. A student-athlete transferring from one FBS program to another FBS program is required by the NCAA to sit one season, and lose that season of playing eligibility. But he has two ways of doing that: He could either transfer to school #2, and be a part of the program and practice with the team, but play in no games. Or he could go the JUCO route for one season, play in games for that JUCO (like Cam Newton did and led that JUCO team to the JUCO NC - he left UF after his RS-Fr. year, lost his Sophomore year of eligibility playing JUCO, then transferred to Auburn and won the 2010 NC as a Jr.), and THEN join school #2 and play immediately...

Only way a transfer could play immediately upon transferring is if he's already earned a degree at school #1, but still has playing eligibility left, and school #2 offers a degree in a course that school #1 doesn't. OR, the transfer could petition the NCAA to waive the requirement on the basis of personal hardship, like the student-athlete is transferring to be closer to a sick parent or to take care of a child or some personal issue like that.

Those are rarely approved, and the first option of going to another school that offers a degree the first one doesn't is about to be discontinued by the NCAA, I believe I read somewhere....

Of course, if the student-athlete is transferring from a FBS to a FCS school, then there is no requirement to sit a year...

pitchcock 01-21-2014 09:15 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by Thenardier (Post 4065710)
Nope, you guys are wrong. If he redshirted last year he doesn't have to miss a game.

He does have to sit out a year.

The only way to get around that is going to JUCO or dropping down a division.

sc455 01-21-2014 10:24 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
Guys like kamara are ultimate competitors. He knew yeldon was already there and knew who was coming in with him at the rb position. He chose bama anyway and it will cost him 2 yrs. his fellow hs class will be in their final required yr for entrance in the nfl when he just gets going..time is money and he messed up by going to bama.

RoosterBooster 01-21-2014 10:25 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by jch81 (Post 4065646)
i saw an earlier report that stated there was a possibility that Kamara could be able to play this year due to the fact that he sat out last year as a redshirt. Dont know how plausible that idea is but with playing time seeming to be a big factor, one would have to think that it could go down that way. I doubt he wants to sit another year. His finalists are FSU, Clemson, and UCLA so it looks like him going the JUCO route isnt on his mind at this point.

No, he has to sit out at the school to which he transfers.

DJCatfish 01-21-2014 12:39 PM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by Thenardier (Post 4065710)
Nope, you guys are wrong. If he redshirted last year he doesn't have to miss a game.

I think you are thinking of NCAA rule 14.5.5..2.7, which provides an exception to the one-year residence requirement:

The student transfers to the certifying institution from another four-year college and, for a consecutive two-year period immediately before the date on which the student begins participation (practice and/or competition), the student has neither engaged in intercollegiate competition nor engaged in other countable athletically related activities in the involved sport in intercollegiate athletics beyond a 14-consecutive-day period, and has neither practiced with a noncollegiate amateur team nor engaged in organized noncollegiate amateur competition while enrolled as a full-time student in a collegiate institution. The 14-consecutive-day period begins with the date on which the student-athlete first engages in any countable athletically related activity (see Bylaw 17.02.1). The two-year period does not include any period of time before the student’s initial collegiate enrollment.


So while the fact that he redshirted makes it pretty clear he didn't engage in intercollegiate competition, that's only half the requirement for the exception. You also can't engage in "other countable athletically related activities in the involved sport." Since he was on the roster and practiced, he has to sit out a year (unless another exception applies; there are several).

Thenardier 01-21-2014 12:45 PM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by DJCatfish (Post 4065880)
I think you are thinking of NCAA rule 14.5.5..2.7, which provides an exception to the one-year residence requirement:

The student transfers to the certifying institution from another four-year college and, for a consecutive two-year period immediately before the date on which the student begins participation (practice and/or competition), the student has neither engaged in intercollegiate competition nor engaged in other countable athletically related activities in the involved sport in intercollegiate athletics beyond a 14-consecutive-day period, and has neither practiced with a noncollegiate amateur team nor engaged in organized noncollegiate amateur competition while enrolled as a full-time student in a collegiate institution. The 14-consecutive-day period begins with the date on which the student-athlete first engages in any countable athletically related activity (see Bylaw 17.02.1). The two-year period does not include any period of time before the studentís initial collegiate enrollment.


So while the fact that he redshirted makes it pretty clear he didn't engage in intercollegiate competition, that's only half the requirement for the exception. You also can't engage in "other countable athletically related activities in the involved sport." Since he was on the roster and practiced, he has to sit out a year (unless another exception applies; there are several).

Yeah, misread that, merci.

JohnnyB21 01-21-2014 12:48 PM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
If the coach releases you from the scholarship you can play the next year right? Bama released him to any school out of the SEC.

ShutTheSuccop 01-21-2014 01:32 PM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB21 (Post 4065885)
If the coach releases you from the scholarship you can play the next year right? Bama released him to any school out of the SEC.

no...I think that all that it matters if that if a coach does not release you from a scholly, you have to sit longer (I think). Kamara will not be able to play next year for Clemson without a waiver from NCAA (and I can't see why he would get one).

That being said...this shows the double standard of coaches being able to come and go as they please but restricts the players

Acockolypse Now 01-21-2014 01:38 PM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
You guys are missing the bigger question.

Will he get a pay raise?

Cockypantherfan 01-21-2014 02:27 PM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by Acockolypse Now (Post 4065930)
You guys are missing the bigger question.

Will he get a pay raise?

Ye$

USCfootball 01-21-2014 11:19 PM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
Why all the hype for a 4-star recruit who couldn't cut it at Bama. If he was "that good" he would be playing ball there.

2000grad 01-22-2014 12:02 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
Bama hauled in one of the bestrb recruiting classes ever. They're loaded

A. Pilgrim 01-22-2014 09:37 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
How are so many people still confused about the transfer rule?

It is literally one of the few straight-forward and simple rules the NCAA has (unless the student athlete appeals for a waiver and get it, but thats separate)

Roosterboy 01-22-2014 11:39 AM

Re: Kamara heading to Clemson?
 
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Originally Posted by Thenardier (Post 4065710)
Nope, you guys are wrong. If he redshirted last year he doesn't have to miss a game.

Wishful thinking tater.
Has to sit regardless of if he RS.


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