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Spurrier_Superior_One 01-29-2014 06:28 PM

Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ot-a-receiver/

What else do expect from the Defender of Bountygate? This was a complete douchebag move by Breesus, but he already got his massive contract but he will screw anyone else over who is trying get theirs. had Cam Newton done this there would be shitstorm of epic proportions.

USCBASEBALL1 01-29-2014 06:30 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Don't see the argument. He is a TE. How is Bree's screwing him over?

cockyjordan3 01-29-2014 06:35 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
The quote is out of context. The questioning likely had nothing to do with what he should be counted as during the franchise tag process.

Cockypantherfan 01-29-2014 06:36 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
I don't see the issue either. He is listed as the starting TE, isn't he?

ccured 01-29-2014 07:04 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
He is not a te. He is a split end at minimum. Its like Tim Duncan being called a power forward he is a damn center

Luke Skycocker 01-29-2014 07:07 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
That quote was probably from months ago

Spurrier_Superior_One 01-29-2014 07:16 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Why does Brees even need to comment on it anyway, its Graham's contract not his. Let's not forget Graham is the reason why Brees puts up all those numbers. Graham's numbers are better then a lot of the top level WRs. During the lockout Brees was very vocal about getting the lower paid players more money well next season Brees is due 18.5 million , well if he really cares so much about the lower he would take a salary cut but he won't because he really doesn't care about anyone but himself. Either put up or shut up there is no other option. This is an example of hypocrisy but no one says a word about Breesus but on here especially people would go after Cam Newton in a heart beat. But as a Panther fan. SCREW THE TAINTS*****

Acockolypse Now 01-29-2014 07:20 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
He's a TE.

cockyjordan3 01-29-2014 07:30 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurrier_Superior_One (Post 4074106)
Why does Brees even need to comment on it anyway, its Graham's contract not his. Let's not forget Graham is the reason why Brees puts up all those numbers. Graham's numbers are better then a lot of the top level WRs. During the lockout Brees was very vocal about getting the lower paid players more money well next season Brees is due 18.5 million , well if he really cares so much about the lower he would take a salary cut but he won't because he really doesn't care about anyone but himself. Either put up or shut up there is no other option. This is an example of hypocrisy but no one says a word about Breesus but on here especially people would go after Cam Newton in a heart beat. But as a Panther fan. SCREW THE TAINTS*****

Because Bree's didn't put up numbers without him? Oh wait... He did.

acejrock 01-29-2014 07:39 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Just goes to show the flaw in the system where your pay is defined by your "position" as opposed to your "value". Instead of fixing the flaw, it will be done with incentives instead of base pay.

It's really basic business principles.

I Bleed Garnet 01-29-2014 07:52 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Still waiting for Brees to "get his"
I didn't see the Panthers injure him.

ReadR00ster 01-29-2014 08:11 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Here's the thing, Brees is right, he is a TE, says so on the roster I have. Sorry Jimmy.

robgusc76 01-29-2014 08:17 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster (Post 4074136)
Here's the thing, Brees is right, he is a TE, says so on the roster I have. Sorry Jimmy.

For the purposes of getting the man more money for being such a key part of that offense, Drew Brees could have given the man the WR title.

Travelin 01-29-2014 08:21 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by USCBASEBALL1 (Post 4074071)
Don't see the argument. He is a TE. How is Bree's screwing him over?

Maybe Jimmy screwed over Mrs. Brees...

GarnetSwarm1990 01-29-2014 08:37 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
He's a TE... If he wanted to be considered a receiver than he wouldn't be 270 lbs. He would drop to 240 or so. He looks pretty lean for 270 so that would probably be pretty hard for him.

Cock Kool-Aid 01-29-2014 08:49 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Lol. Breesus is such a scumbag!

NJGCfan 01-29-2014 09:31 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurrier_Superior_One (Post 4074106)
Why does Brees even need to comment on it anyway, its Graham's contract not his. Let's not forget Graham is the reason why Brees puts up all those numbers. Graham's numbers are better then a lot of the top level WRs. During the lockout Brees was very vocal about getting the lower paid players more money well next season Brees is due 18.5 million , well if he really cares so much about the lower he would take a salary cut but he won't because he really doesn't care about anyone but himself. Either put up or shut up there is no other option. This is an example of hypocrisy but no one says a word about Breesus but on here especially people would go after Cam Newton in a heart beat. But as a Panther fan. SCREW THE TAINTS*****

The context isn't provided, but the question was probably just "Is Graham a TE or a WR," which Brees answered factually, Graham is a TE. To address your comment about brees' numbers, that is false. Brees was a top QB well before Graham even entered the league. Also I don't see why people attack the character of another person just because they don't want to take a paycut. Just because he makes an exorbitant amount of money doesn't make him any less deserving. If you work hard to make your money you wouldn't advocate a paycut so a coworker can get his big pay day. This just sounds like sour grapes from a panthers fan

Lalli25 01-29-2014 10:02 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NJGCfan (Post 4074240)
The context isn't provided, but the question was probably just "Is Graham a TE or a WR," which Brees answered factually, Graham is a TE. To address your comment about brees' numbers, that is false. Brees was a top QB well before Graham even entered the league. Also I don't see why people attack the character of another person just because they don't want to take a paycut. Just because he makes an exorbitant amount of money doesn't make him any less deserving. If you work hard to make your money you wouldn't advocate a paycut so a coworker can get his big pay day. This just sounds like sour grapes from a panthers fan

This is what it all comes down to. He is pissed that Breez won a Super Bowl with the Saints while he is stuck knowing that Cam will never come close to winning a Super Bowl for the Panthers.

Gramah is a TE and his success is due to Breez more than Breez' success being due to Gramah.

GoldenSpur7 01-29-2014 10:12 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by USCBASEBALL1 (Post 4074071)
Don't see the argument. He is a TE. How is Bree's screwing him over?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cockypantherfan (Post 4074077)
I don't see the issue either. He is listed as the starting TE, isn't he?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccured (Post 4074094)
He is not a te. He is a split end at minimum. Its like Tim Duncan being called a power forward he is a damn center

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acockolypse Now (Post 4074107)
He's a TE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReadR00ster (Post 4074136)
Here's the thing, Brees is right, he is a TE, says so on the roster I have. Sorry Jimmy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarnetSwarm1990 (Post 4074160)
He's a TE... If he wanted to be considered a receiver than he wouldn't be 270 lbs. He would drop to 240 or so. He looks pretty lean for 270 so that would probably be pretty hard for him.

From the article, I guess this is what makes it contentious:
Quote:

According to Pro Football Focus, Graham lined up as a tight end only 33 percent of the time in 2013.

Cockypantherfan 01-29-2014 10:14 PM

Re: Drew Brees Screws Over Jimmy Graham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalli25 (Post 4074292)
This is what it all comes down to. He is pissed that Breez won a Super Bowl with the Saints while he is stuck knowing that Cam will never come close to winning a Super Bowl for the Panthers.

Gramah is a TE and his success is due to Breez more than Breez' success being due to Gramah.

This is painful to read.


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