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weatheredxtown 05-19-2014 10:02 AM

Strange Rules and Penalties
 
When I was watching 2012 Florida game, there was a part where Florida got penalized for "roughing the snapper", which I thought was the strangest penalty. And that got me thinking.

What are some of the strangest rules/penalties you've seen enforced in any sport?

kick_ball 05-19-2014 10:14 AM

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roosterdude21 05-19-2014 10:16 AM

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"Giving him the business". Whatever that is, apparently isn't allowed.

roosterdude21 05-19-2014 10:29 AM

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kingoftheroost 05-19-2014 10:30 AM

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How about rules that don't exist? If we visit that topic, then penalties not being reviewable gets my vote. I mean penalties should be able to be overturned and be able to be called when reviewing a play. In other words, if a penalty is called (let's say illegal man downfield) and the play is reviewed and shows the player(s) in question were within the allowable distance, then it should be overturned. Likewise, if the penalty wasn't called originally and the review shows the player(s) too far downfield, then the officials should be able to call it.

I'm not saying penalties should be the reasons for the reviews (unless they are potentially game-changing call/non-calls, like pass interference), but if the play is being reviewed anyway, then review everything about it.

kingoftheroost 05-19-2014 10:31 AM

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You're welcome.

uscGRAD04 05-19-2014 10:32 AM

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I think it's weird that during a FG a holder can be on a knee, catch the snap and then get up and throw a pass. Seems like they would be ruled down. I know it's the rule but it's just kinda weird.

uscGRAD04 05-19-2014 10:33 AM

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The one rule missing that I wish was in college was the NFL rule that a runner can be down only with contact.

carolinafan53186 05-19-2014 10:44 AM

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You're welcome.

Ron used that phrase to avoid saying he was hitting him in the balls

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kingoftheroost 05-19-2014 10:46 AM

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The one rule missing that I wish was in college was the NFL rule that a runner can be down only with contact.

There are a couple of rules I wish were in college that the pros have. The one you named is one of them. I also wish PI penalties against the defense were spot fouls.

And for both college and pro ball, I wish they would get rid of automatic first downs due to a penalty when the penalty yardage wouldn't be enough to give the offense the first down. It just doesn't make sense to me that a team could be backed way up (something like 3rd and 25), the defense gets called for a penalty like defensive holding or even a personal foul, and the offense gets a free first down.

I remember a few years back UGA and UT were playing in Knoxville, and UGA ended up in 3rd and 57. If UT had been called for one of the penalties in question, then UGA would've been bailed out even though their own penalties put them in the situation. How would that make sense to say one penalty is worse than all the ones the other team had? Here's the video:


Gamecocks1137 05-19-2014 10:48 AM

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I will never get over this blown call.

weatheredxtown 05-19-2014 10:49 AM

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I also wish the NFL had the one foot rule instead of both feet.

kingoftheroost 05-19-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by uscGRAD04 (Post 4161771)
I think it's weird that during a FG a holder can be on a knee, catch the snap and then get up and throw a pass. Seems like they would be ruled down. I know it's the rule but it's just kinda weird.

I halfway agree. If the player is serving only as the holder for a kick, then he should be allowed to have the knee down without being called down, but if his role changes (very obviously not just holding the ball), then I think he should have to pick his knee up before receiving the ball. QBs aren't allowed to receive a snap with one knee down and do anything with the ball, so why is the holder?

Lalli25 05-19-2014 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kingoftheroost (Post 4161777)
There are a couple of rules I wish were in college that the pros have. The one you named is one of them. I also wish PI penalties against the defense were spot fouls.

And for both college and pro ball, I wish they would get rid of automatic first downs due to a penalty when the penalty yardage wouldn't be enough to give the offense the first down. It just doesn't make sense to me that a team could be backed way up (something like 3rd and 25), the defense gets called for a penalty like defensive holding or even a personal foul, and the offense gets a free first down.

I remember a few years back UGA and UT were playing in Knoxville, and UGA ended up in 3rd and 57. If UT had been called for one of the penalties in question, then UGA would've been bailed out even though their own penalties put them in the situation. How would that make sense to say one penalty is worse than all the ones the other team had? Here's the video:


While I understand your argument, trust me you don't want that. Here is why I say that. High School football got rid of the automatic first down on PI and personal fouls, which sounded good. However, if you are in a first and goal situation and they get a PI or PF, it is only a half the distance to the goal and replay the down foul. So basically they allowed defenses to start mugging WR when inside the red zone and daring the ref to call it repeatedly.

If you screw up and get an automatic first down penalty that is your fault, not the refs. Whose to say that PI wouldn't have stopped a play that would have been a first down.

uscGRAD04 05-19-2014 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kingoftheroost (Post 4161783)
I halfway agree. If the player is serving only as the holder for a kick, then he should be allowed to have the knee down without being called down, but if his role changes (very obviously not just holding the ball), then I think he should have to pick his knee up before receiving the ball. QBs aren't allowed to receive a snap with one knee down and do anything with the ball, so why is the holder?


If they changed to the NFL rule I mentioned before about only being down by contact from another player then this would be allowed without an issue.


Edit: Which I guess it's not an issue...just strange to me.

Lalli25 05-19-2014 10:56 AM

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I also wish the NFL had the one foot rule instead of both feet.

NFL needs to implement the clock stopping after a first down. I am sick of watching last minute drives coming down to how well the refs are in condition. A game should never end because the refs wouldn't let the team snap the ball. I hate how college football is basically not stopping the clock and whistle the clock to start, even though the ball isn't ready for play.

2000grad 05-19-2014 10:56 AM

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And for both college and pro ball, I wish they would get rid of automatic first downs due to a penalty when the penalty yardage wouldn't be enough to give the offense the first down.
In HS football, there is no automatic first down for PI. Depending on the severity of the foul, I belivee it is warranted in some cases.

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It just doesn't make sense to me that a team could be backed way up (something like 3rd and 25), the defense gets called for a penalty like defensive holding or even a personal foul, and the offense gets a free first down
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PF fouls are usually safety fouls and therefore meant to help reduce unnecessary injuries.

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I remember a few years back UGA and UT were playing in Knoxville, and UGA ended up in 3rd and 57. If UT had been called for one of the penalties in question, then UGA would've been bailed out even though their own penalties put them in the situation. How would that make sense to say one penalty is worse than all the ones the other team had? Here's the video:


That is why you coach them not to do anything stupid

Lalli25 05-19-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by weatheredxtown (Post 4161751)
When I was watching 2012 Florida game, there was a part where Florida got penalized for "roughing the snapper", which I thought was the strangest penalty. And that got me thinking.

What are some of the strangest rules/penalties you've seen enforced in any sport?

Roughing the snapper exist as a protection for snappers, just like a roughing the passer exist to protect QBs; it isn't strange. Prior to the roughing the snapper rule, people were lining up like 4 guys up on the snapper and running over him while his head was still down from snapping. It is a very vulnerable position.

2000grad 05-19-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lalli25 (Post 4161790)
NFL needs to implement the clock stopping after a first down. I am sick of watching last minute drives coming down to how well the refs are in condition. A game should never end because the refs wouldn't let the team snap the ball. I hate how college football is basically not stopping the clock and whistle the clock to start, even though the ball isn't ready for play.

There is a reason there are 7 of them. In HS, only 5...and most of those guys that are refs, umpires, or back judges aren't in shape to begin with. The HL and the LJ seem to be in shape more since they are streaking with the receivers, especially in 4 man mechanics. Hurry up offenses kill me sometimes.

weatheredxtown 05-19-2014 10:59 AM

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Can someone also explain the infield fly rule


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