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Thenardier 05-27-2014 08:02 PM

Recruiting Storylines for 2015
 
http://www.gogamecocks.com/2014/05/2.../99/113/&ihp=1

Looking good so far.

ucan'tlickourcocks 05-27-2014 08:26 PM

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Damn...... we have the 5th ranked class by Rivals...... which on it's face is awesome.....

Then you read that puts us 3rd in the SEC, and 2nd in our own state!!!

Talk about competition!!!!

garnet_black215 05-27-2014 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ucan'tlickourcocks (Post 4168344)
Damn...... we have the 5th ranked class by Rivals...... which on it's face is awesome.....

Then you read that puts us 3rd in the SEC, and 2nd in our own state!!!

Talk about competition!!!!

Completely baffles me.

CockyLifer 05-27-2014 08:35 PM

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They count a bunch of 3 star recruits as higher than the level of talented guys we already have committed based on the sheer number of commitments. Clem5on can get #1 recruiting class for all I care they will need it to topple us these days.:puke:

b381l 05-28-2014 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by garnet_black215 (Post 4168350)
Completely baffles me.

They are ahead of us because they have 5-7 more committed recruits than us.....all 3*. This is like following the polls.....the only one that matters is the last one.

Talon1 05-28-2014 12:41 AM

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Taters can out recruit us every year for all I care as long as we keep kicking their a$$ on the grid iron it's all good. :golf:

Here's to superior coaching and play calling! We've got some pretty good players too.

GarnetInChicago 05-28-2014 01:08 PM

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I have to give Clemson it's due a bit in this recruiting cycle. For years and years they've only gotten high profile skill position players and ignored the trenches. They've done some good work getting O-linemen this year so far. If that trend continues, those games are going to get much tougher.

garnet_black215 05-28-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GarnetInChicago (Post 4168811)
I have to give Clemson it's due a bit in this recruiting cycle. For years and years they've only gotten high profile skill position players and ignored the trenches. They've done some good work getting O-linemen this year so far. If that trend continues, those games are going to get much tougher.

They've done well so far and will only continue to do well. There in the mix for two five star defensive linemen, and even if they don't get either one it's still nice to be in that conversation.

86 GradCock 05-28-2014 01:55 PM

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Well, Clemson has out recruited us the past five years and we all know how that has worked out for them. The key to this is, we have coaches that are better at evaluating talent and at coaching them to play at a higher level. The results don't lie.

donbgamecock 05-28-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 86 GradCock (Post 4168859)
Well, Clemson has out recruited us the past five years and we all know how that has worked out for them. The key to this is, we have coaches that are better at evaluating talent and at coaching them to play at a higher level. The results don't lie.

Only according to the star counters.

Jwilson 05-28-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GarnetInChicago (Post 4168811)
I have to give Clemson it's due a bit in this recruiting cycle. For years and years they've only gotten high profile skill position players and ignored the trenches. They've done some good work getting O-linemen this year so far. If that trend continues, those games are going to get much tougher.

Normally, it takes a few years at the OL to get where you need to be. So, we'll see if clemsux coaching can develop the talent, and enough of it, to play 4 quarters against quality competition. The OL recruits aren't going to help them much this year.

GarnetSwarm1990 05-28-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GarnetInChicago (Post 4168811)
I have to give Clemson it's due a bit in this recruiting cycle. For years and years they've only gotten high profile skill position players and ignored the trenches. They've done some good work getting O-linemen this year so far. If that trend continues, those games are going to get much tougher.

They still gotta hold on to those linemen. If history is any indication, they don't typically hold on to big time early commits.

aftertwobowls 05-28-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GarnetSwarm1990 (Post 4168965)
They still gotta hold on to those linemen. If history is any indication, they don't typically hold on to big time early commits.

Well I definitely don't think Mitch Hyatt will de-commit, but the rest of their OL commits I know nothing about.

GarnetSwarm1990 05-28-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aftertwobowls (Post 4168971)
Well I definitely don't think Mitch Hyatt will de-commit, but the rest of their OL commits I know nothing about.

Hyatt is a legacy for them isn't he?

aftertwobowls 05-28-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GarnetSwarm1990 (Post 4168975)
Hyatt is a legacy for them isn't he?

Yea I think his uncle played there when they were National Champs, so he grew up a fan.

roosterdude21 05-28-2014 04:00 PM

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"This year’s class is expected to total 20 to 22, but it could be 25 if the Gamecocks wind up signing a full group. That’s the maximum allowed by the SEC..."

Except Tennessee signed 31 in '14 so...

weatheredxtown 05-28-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by roosterdude21 (Post 4169000)
"This yearís class is expected to total 20 to 22, but it could be 25 if the Gamecocks wind up signing a full group. Thatís the maximum allowed by the SEC..."

Except Tennessee signed 31 in '13 so...

But some enrolled early, counting them as part of '12

rolinb1 05-28-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by weatheredxtown (Post 4169002)
But some enrolled early, counting them as part of '12

so, if you recruited, signed and enrolled 22 in the normal signing period of 2012 then sign and enroll 6 more later in the year for a total of 28 that is legal? I know that several had moved on by then but you still signed 28 scholarships that year...How does that math add up?

GarnetSwarm1990 05-28-2014 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aftertwobowls (Post 4168991)
Yea I think his uncle played there when they were National Champs, so he grew up a fan.

I've read some stuff about some of the higher rated D-linemen in the class going up against him in camps and beating him so I'm not sold on his ratings. Of course I can't provide any sources so take it with a grain of salt.

ConwayGamecock 05-28-2014 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rolinb1 (Post 4169055)
so, if you recruited, signed and enrolled 22 in the normal signing period of 2012 then sign and enroll 6 more later in the year for a total of 28 that is legal? I know that several had moved on by then but you still signed 28 scholarships that year...How does that math add up?

Are you sure all 22 enrolled, though? I know for one Jabo Lee was denied entry into UT, and he moved on. It made a stink with Lee's HS coach at Dillon.

It's what has happened with USC in past classes: you sign a class of 25, but then say 5 don't make it past admissions. Then you can sign 25 the next cycle, PLUS 5 more to make up for the ones that didn't get in last cycle. Also attrition in the program helps with that too: players transfer out, opening up spots in the total scholarship # of 85. Then if you can bring in some prospects for the next class, that can enroll early, they can take those spots and not count against the 25 of the class they are a part of. Early enrollees and JUCO signees that can enroll in December/January play a part in this....


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