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usc1 06-01-2014 11:54 PM

Baseball Reflection & Outlook
 
Can't say I've felt this disappointed in a Gamecock baseball team in a while. My expectation before this year was to get to Omaha. We had nearly everyone come back from a team that almost did it last year so the bar was set high. We had arguably the most experienced team in the SEC this year. Didn't mean a damn thing in the end.

Injuries hit us throughout the year and Holbrook did a good job all things considered keeping the team together and getting to 40+ wins yet again.

However, injuries can't be an excuse for how we performed in the SECT and NCAAs. Schrock and Bright, when in the lineup were both swinging it well. Schrock had the most hits in the regional and Bright seemed to hit it on the screws every time albeit right at someone.


Unless we bring in a phenomenal group of hitters we may struggle a little more at the plate next year. Expect to lose English, Pankake, Greiner, and probably Martin as well to go along with Seddon, Beal, and potentially Montgomery from the pitching staff.

I imagine the lineup will look something like this:

1. Mooney SS
2. Bright RF
3. Schrock 2B
4. Widener DH/Steagall 1B
5. Arendas 3B
6. Caldwell/Harrington LF
7. Gene Cone CF
8. Logan Koch C
9. Scolamiero/Pike/Maxwell/Gore-who knows

Pitching (if no Monty):

Fri-Crowe
Sat-Wynkoop
Sun-Widener

Pitching will be stout again with most of our guys coming back. Meyers continues to do an outstanding job.

Coach of the Year- Jerry Meyers

Player of the Year- Grayson Greiner

Most Improved- Joel Seddon

Freshman of the Year- Wil Crowe



Sorry about the long post, decided to put down all my thoughts in to one post. Hope MD takes care of UVA so we don't look quite as bad. They were an impressive group and the better team over the weekend. Never buckled under pressure, but instead we did. Really makes you appreciate what our guys did in 2010-2012. Here's to a better season in 2015.

CayceCock13 06-02-2014 04:02 AM

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Monty, Greiner, English, Pankake, Seddon, & Beal are definitely all gone. Martin may stay his final year to get his degree I've heard that it does mean a lot to him but I don't put a whole ton of stock into it.

I'd say it would look like:
C - Koch or Martin (JUCO Transfer) This spot's going to be a real question mark going into the fall.
1B - Widener or Steagall
2B - Schrock
SS - Mooney
3B - Arendas
LF - Cone
CF - Scolamiero
RF - Bright

Probable Rotation:
Crowe
Wynkoop
Destino - If he stays and passes up on the $$ and from everything I've heard that's a really good possibility atm.

This group definitely underachieved this season, disappointing end to the season would have at least thought going back to the Supers with this team but it didn't happen.

Gamecocks1137 06-02-2014 05:36 AM

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I was sad to see it end this way, but really all you can do is look back at what we have achieved in the decade. We did get to 40 wins this season, and that is an accomplishment. We can't win them all fellas.

jcausc 06-02-2014 08:01 AM

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Forrest Koumas was redshirted this year.. i see him in the weekend rotation

eaglegolf018 06-02-2014 08:07 AM

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I don't see the offense improving next year. We had 4 guys this year that consistently hit and that was really it, and we're about to lose all 4 to the draft. And Koumas will not be in the weekend rotation. I would be shocked if he contributes at all. Struggled before TJS.

usc1 06-02-2014 08:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CayceCock13 (Post 4174133)
Monty, Greiner, English, Pankake, Seddon, & Beal are definitely all gone. Martin may stay his final year to get his degree I've heard that it does mean a lot to him but I don't put a whole ton of stock into it.

I'd say it would look like:
C - Koch or Martin (JUCO Transfer) This spot's going to be a real question mark going into the fall.
1B - Widener or Steagall
2B - Schrock
SS - Mooney
3B - Arendas
LF - Cone
CF - Scolamiero
RF - Bright

Probable Rotation:
Crowe
Wynkoop
Destino - If he stays and passes up on the $$ and from everything I've heard that's a really good possibility atm.

This group definitely underachieved this season, disappointing end to the season would have at least thought going back to the Supers with this team but it didn't happen.


You're probably pretty close with this. It'll be interesting how we handle Widener and the roles that guys like Caldwell and Harrington will play. I feel like the coaches have penciled in Cone as a starter for his career but I'd like to see more offense from that spot. We'll see what happens.

davidmc467 06-02-2014 08:43 AM

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I'm not 100% sold on English and Martin leaving, but we'll see.

I'm hoping Forrest Koumas can get back to freshman year form. He can have a Nolan Belcher type year.

It is pretty clear that Wil Crowe will be the Friday night guy next year.

gamecock88 06-02-2014 08:48 AM

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This past season started out great, but ended not so much. I don't think we were ever as good as we thought we were early but not as bad is it may have looked this past weekend. The same issues glared all season long. Clutch hitting being one of those as well as base running blunders. Coaching can correct the base running but hitting I'm not so sure. Good season regardless, not great.

RoosterBooster 06-02-2014 08:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CayceCock13 (Post 4174133)
Monty, Greiner, English, Pankake, Seddon, & Beal are definitely all gone. Martin may stay his final year to get his degree I've heard that it does mean a lot to him but I don't put a whole ton of stock into it.

I'd say it would look like:
C - Koch or Martin (JUCO Transfer) This spot's going to be a real question mark going into the fall.
1B - Widener or Steagall
2B - Schrock
SS - Mooney
3B - Arendas
LF - Cone
CF - Scolamiero
RF - Bright

Probable Rotation:
Crowe
Wynkoop
Destino - If he stays and passes up on the $$ and from everything I've heard that's a really good possibility atm.

This group definitely underachieved this season, disappointing end to the season would have at least thought going back to the Supers with this team but it didn't happen.

Not sure how many teams would have done better if you took their most consistent early season bat and best clutch hitter out of the line up for the majority of their conference season. Those 2 bats (+ Caldwell) being gone also put Greiner on the field a lot more than he should have had to be.

davidmc467 06-02-2014 08:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RoosterBooster (Post 4174188)
Not sure how many teams would have done better if you took their most consistent early season bat and best clutch hitter out of the line up for the majority of their conference season. Those 2 bats (+ Caldwell) being gone also put Greiner on the field a lot more than he should have had to be.

Not having a consistent 2nd catcher to catch about 1/4 of the season really sucked. Greiner really wore down as the season went along.

RoosterBooster 06-02-2014 08:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gamecock88 (Post 4174184)
This past season started out great, but ended not so much. I don't think we were ever as good as we thought we were early but not as bad is it may have looked this past weekend. The same issues glared all season long. Clutch hitting being one of those as well as base running blunders. Coaching can correct the base running but hitting I'm not so sure. Good season regardless, not great.

I think hitting may be where we need to make the improvement. I don't know if Chad is able to focus here to the extent he did when he was not the head coach. I know Gene Cone has an outside hitting instructor he has worked with and he really seems to have quality at bats even though his avg isn't that high. He has also had some nice clutch hits.

RoosterBooster 06-02-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by davidmc467 (Post 4174190)
Not having a consistent 2nd catcher to catch about 1/4 of the season really sucked. Greiner really wore down as the season went along.

I think Koch would have been ok if someone else could have picked up Grayson's offense. It was tough watching Grayson this weekend. You could see how tired he was and he was pressing at the plate because of it.

Nureye 06-02-2014 09:11 AM

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I guess English has a chance to leave, but should he really? He is the #9 hitter on a college baseball team. He's not a good hitter, and he's a speed guy but he's not good at stealing bases. All he would likely be in the pros is an outfield defensive specialist. Not exactly a sought after position. The likelihood of him making the big leagues is miniscule.

If he is being realistic, he should play out his college career, earn a degree, and get a job. Maybe parlay some of that Carolina good will into a successful business career.

Overall, it was a tough season by Carolina standards. Too many injuries, and not enough timely hitting. Maryland was simply better than us this weekend, and I tip my hat to them.

davidmc467 06-02-2014 09:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nureye (Post 4174199)
I guess English has a chance to leave, but should he really? He is the #9 hitter on a college baseball team. He's not a good hitter, and he's a speed guy but he's not good at stealing bases. All he would likely be in the pros is an outfield defensive specialist. Not exactly a sought after position. The likelihood of him making the big leagues is miniscule.

If he is being realistic, he should play out his college career, earn a degree, and get a job. Maybe parlay some of that Carolina good will into a successful business career.

I'd love to have English back. He is great in CF, and it'd be nice to still have a few players with CWS experience on the roster.

He was a 13th round pick in the 2011 draft. It'd be interesting to see if he goes any higher.

jabrahamfan94 06-02-2014 09:30 AM

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From what I'm hearing.. Koumas is transfering to d2 next year to finish out

Latti 06-02-2014 09:32 AM

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We have got to change our hitting approach. It seems that teams who focus on line drives(singling) are the ones that are winning. We got beat by Arizona that way and haven't adjusted. It seems like everytime we get runners on , our guys swing for the fences.

Look at way Maryland did. Everytime they needed it they got a clutch basehit. Nothing spectacular, just well placed singles. There is no more hoping for a 3 run bomb with these bats. It's about time our coaching staff comes to terms with it and finds a way to fix the problem.

superfly 06-02-2014 09:33 AM

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Defense and injuries were our downfall this year. Baseball is a streak game, that even the best hitters fail 70% of the time, at the plate. The pitching is there...the bullpen is great....we can go on a run next year and hit a slump somewhere along the way. I think we peaked very early in the season and then the injuries came. I think if we had been injury free and played out the streak at the end of the season we would have hosted a Super and been heading to the CWS with the chance to win it all. It didn't happen...we are still a great program, have a top notch stadium, great players, with a very good coach and the sky is the limit. I am over this so lets move on to football and revisit this next year. The guys gave it their best.....You think YOU are disappointed....try being them !

kingoftheroost 06-02-2014 09:51 AM

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Well, if I'm going to pick one thing to be unhappy about, it's the offense, and this isn't the first time. I guess we put up decent numbers every year as far as runs per game, but most people could watch this team over the course of a full season and see the offense struggles, and it has for several years now.

I don't pretend to know what the players are coached to do or how each one approaches various at bats, but I do know something needs to change. Maybe the guys aren't actually trying to play gorilla ball, but it definitely seems like lots of other teams can get hits at critical times almost at will, and we can't. What could the reason be? Your guess is as (probably better) than mine. And yes, I realize there were a number of times during the year when we got "clutch" hits late in games, but if the offense were better/more consistent, then maybe we wouldn't have needed to be the "cardiac cocks" much of the year.

Jwilson 06-02-2014 10:07 AM

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I have to say I'm fairly disappointed with our play the last month. I Can handle getting beat, but what I can't handle is losing. Frankly, our hitting is bad, our defense could be better as could our pitching. We could use an attitude adjustment also, not enough "Battle". In the regional, with risp, our batting average was something like .125.

Legalman72 06-02-2014 10:14 AM

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Our hitting has sucked ballz pretty much all season.


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