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SpockCock 06-20-2014 04:14 PM

Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
FYI, to those of you who might care where Phil ranks us: on his blog today he posted us as #10, and posted his usual stat-sheet and breakdown. See:

http://www.philsteele.com

at the top, or

PDF

for the direct link to the pdf write-up.

paynemd2 06-20-2014 05:59 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Solid. Guy really knows his stuff. Sucks seeing him project Jhaustin Thomas as a starting DE. Hate he didn't make the grades to get in.

ZenUSC 06-20-2014 06:15 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
This is a more talented and experienced team than many realize. It isn't very likely that a new guy will walk into a starting position.

BlueHerons 06-21-2014 02:26 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
He's got Georgia ranked ahead of us. Again.

At least everyone has stopped ranking Georgia AND Clemson ahead of us even when we beat them.

uscgamecocks88 06-21-2014 02:35 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueHerons (Post 4187786)
He's got Georgia ranked ahead of us. Again.

At least everyone has stopped ranking Georgia AND Clemson ahead of us even when we beat them.

Everyone is high on Georgia right now. Until they have two mediocre seasons, they will always be ranked above us. Media is convinced that last years 8 win season was a fluke

Thenardier 06-21-2014 02:44 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Auburn 9th? Ha! Again I sat, Ha!

Bobby Boucher 06-21-2014 02:55 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uscgamecocks88 (Post 4187789)
Everyone is high on Georgia right now. Until they have two mediocre seasons, they will always be ranked above us. Media is convinced that last years 8 win season was a fluke

To be honest, it was a bit of a fluke because of all of their injuries. Yeah I know injuries happen to all teams, but that many injuries to that many contributors is an extreme fluke.

TAFC 5 1981 06-21-2014 03:08 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Boucher (Post 4187797)
To be honest, it was a bit of a fluke because of all of their injuries. Yeah I know injuries happen to all teams, but that many injuries to that many contributors is an extreme fluke.

UGA and FL had a bad case of the injuries (FL added some other issues in as well).

b381l 06-21-2014 04:43 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueHerons (Post 4187786)
He's got Georgia ranked ahead of us. Again.

At least everyone has stopped ranking Georgia AND Clemson ahead of us even when we beat them.

no he doesn't....he has Georgia ranked #11.

If this is true, we'll be playing Bama in Atlanta.

b381l 06-21-2014 04:47 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Boucher (Post 4187797)
To be honest, it was a bit of a fluke because of all of their injuries. Yeah I know injuries happen to all teams, but that many injuries to that many contributors is an extreme fluke.

Georgia switching defenses this year without the proper players is going to cause them problems in run support.

BlueHerons 06-21-2014 04:56 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b381l (Post 4187846)
no he doesn't....he has Georgia ranked #11.

If this is true, we'll be playing Bama in Atlanta.

His projected top 25 (meaning USA and AP )has Georgia ranked at #11, it isn't his ranking.

He hasn't ranked Georgia yet and has us at #10 and I doubt he has them unranked.

uscgrad68 06-21-2014 06:01 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueHerons (Post 4187863)
His projected top 25 (meaning USA and AP )has Georgia ranked at #11, it isn't his ranking.

He hasn't ranked Georgia yet and has us at #10 and I doubt he has them unranked.

I believe his preseason list is for 2013. He says it was from LAST April

There are 9 teams in the (2013?) preseason top 25 not yet mentioned in his 2014 list for #40-#9. Only 8 spots left. At least one of them will be omitted from the top 40 for 2014 - Missouri? UCLA? Baylor? Georgia? These are the four lowest rated in the preseason list shown not yet on the 2014 top 40 list.

BlueHerons 06-21-2014 06:14 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
This is what I'm looking at with Georgia #11. It says it is his 2014 AP projections

http://www.philsteele.com/images/201...ssnTOP25_3.jpg

uscgrad68 06-21-2014 06:44 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueHerons (Post 4187957)
This is what I'm looking at with Georgia #11. It says it is his 2014 AP projections

http://www.philsteele.com/images/201...ssnTOP25_3.jpg

The heading to this list does not say it is a 2014 projection at all. Steele is bragging that he was a "perfect 25 of 25 picked last April." He has to be talking about how his 2013 preseason top 25 all ended the 2013 year in the top 25 for 2013 (with some obvious shuffling around).

uscgrad68 06-21-2014 08:04 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uscgrad68 (Post 4187972)
The heading to this list does not say it is a 2014 projection at all. Steele is bragging that he was a "perfect 25 of 25 picked last April." He has to be talking about how his 2013 preseason top 25 all ended the 2013 year in the top 25 for 2013 (with some obvious shuffling around).

Correction - My previous post is not correct. If you click on the video link above the list quoted, where he says he was a "perfect 25 of 25 last April" he was talking about the AP preseason top 25 for 2013. In other words he is saying he correctly guessed what teams would appear in the AP 2013 top 25 projections

But the list quoted in the first post to this topic, that shows Georgia #11, this is his projection for the AP top 25 for 2014, not his list. So he is again trying to guess how the AP voters will vote.

By the way, his 2013 preseason projection was very different from the final AP 25 for 2013, found here.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/ap

His 2013 preseason list included 9 that were not in the final 2013 AP ranking, including Georgia and Florida. He picked us as #9 and we finished #4. He picked FSt #13 and did not list Auburn, Michigan St or UCF in the top 25 and all of these finished in the top 10.

TerryP 06-22-2014 05:43 AM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thenardier (Post 4187792)
Auburn 9th? Ha! Again I sat, Ha!

You know, if Auburn finishes ninth that'll likely mean they finished the season with 10 or more wins—in back to back seasons.

If I were you not only would I accept that, I'd hope for it. It would be an accomplishment, yes, a milestone, for the program you're a fan of.

Thenardier 06-22-2014 09:35 AM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryP (Post 4188195)
You know, if Auburn finishes ninth that'll likely mean they finished the season with 10 or more wins—in back to back seasons.

If I were you not only would I accept that, I'd hope for it. It would be an accomplishment, yes, a milestone, for the program you're a fan of.

Not a milestone, we've done it once before! Lol

MisterClowney 06-23-2014 10:40 AM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
"Expert"

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...psdcded4dc.png

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...pseac65116.png

TrueGarnet 06-23-2014 12:03 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
If you take an average of the last 2 seasons, we have finished 17.5 spots ahead of his "expert" projections. If this year keeps that pace, with his #10 projection, we'll win the Natty Title. So.....maybe his projections are worth something after all....Thanks Phil!

B-G 06-23-2014 12:08 PM

Re: Phil Steele top 40: Gamecocks #10
 
If Phil gives us a favorable ranking , he "knows his stuff"
If not, he's a "blowhard/does anyone actually read his magazine?"


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