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Travelin 08-31-2014 09:54 AM

(50 minute Replay) USC vs aTm
 
Watched the replay this morning. It's edited down to 50 minutes with live play only.

The offense wasn't that bad. Had some of the dropped passes in the first half been caught, it would have been close at halftime. Other than that, the defense is definitely the reason we lost this game.

What changes would you make this week with the personnel we have available?


Wisercock 08-31-2014 10:25 AM

Re: (50 minute Replay) USC vs aTm
 
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Originally Posted by Travelin (Post 4244941)
Watched the replay this morning. It's edited down to 50 minutes with live play only.

The offense wasn't that bad. Had some of the dropped passes in the first half been caught, it would have been close at halftime. Other than that, the defense is definitely the reason we lost this game.

What changes would you make this week with the personnel we have available?


I can't bear to watch it yet.

The offense was forced to play hurry up which is exactly what aTm wanted. We either scored quickly or went 3 and out and either way our defense was right back on the field.

We have to find a way to generate a ball control offense. Spurrier may have to suck it up and go to a power running game.

Badazcock 08-31-2014 10:29 AM

Re: (50 minute Replay) USC vs aTm
 
Did the defense show up in that video??

Travelin 08-31-2014 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Badazcock (Post 4244975)
Did the defense show up in that video??

Unfortunately not.

Can we expect much better playing two freshman cornerbacks? Nothing against them, but it's asking too much of them as freshman. how in the hell did we get to the point that we have to start two freshman corners in the opening game against a dynamic offense like the one the Aggies possess?

Travelin 08-31-2014 10:35 AM

Re: (50 minute Replay) USC vs aTm
 
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Originally Posted by Wisercock (Post 4244971)
I can't bear to watch it yet.

The offense was forced to play hurry up which is exactly what aTm wanted. We either scored quickly or went 3 and out and either way our defense was right back on the field.

We have to find a way to generate a ball control offense. Spurrier may have to suck it up and go to a power running game.

The OL will have to start blocking for that to happen.

Badazcock 08-31-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelin (Post 4244980)
Unfortunately not.

Can we expect much better playing two freshman cornerbacks? Nothing against them, but it's asking too much of them as freshman. how in the hell did we get to the point that we have to start two freshman corners in the opening game against a dynamic offense like the Aggies possess?

Recruiting??

CoverTwo 08-31-2014 10:48 AM

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I'll provide some more in depth thoughts later but does anyone know if DJ Smith played? I know Wes Green didn't

Wisercock 08-31-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelin (Post 4244980)
Unfortunately not.

Can we expect much better playing two freshman cornerbacks? Nothing against them, but it's asking too much of them as freshman. how in the hell did we get to the point that we have to start two freshman corners in the opening game against a dynamic offense like the Aggies possess?

Not to mention the lack of a SEC caliber DE.

That's a lot to be missing on defense.

Travelin 08-31-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CoverTwo (Post 4244993)
I'll provide some more in depth thoughts later but does anyone know if DJ Smith played? I know Wes Green didn't

IDK if DJ played or not. But why in the world didn't we play our 4 star recruit Green? Please don't tell me they want to redshirt the guy...

eatlighting 08-31-2014 10:55 AM

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Who thinks we scrap the 3-4?

UT and UGA sure did if I'm not mistaken. I don't think SOS was pleased.

Latti 08-31-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by eatlighting (Post 4245003)
Who thinks we scrap the 3-4?

UT and UGA sure did if I'm not mistaken. I don't think SOS was pleased.


He needs to be mad that Bobo ran the exact offense he needs to and was very successful.

GamecockSuperFan 08-31-2014 11:00 AM

Re: (50 minute Replay) USC vs aTm
 
The biggest thing that I questioned in this game was the playcalling on 2nd down and 1 when were down 17 and driving down the field to cut it to 10.

on 2nd and 1 we try some pass for an incomplete. then on 3rd and 1 throw a fade against cover 2 to roland for an INT because the pass was a little too far inside. All we've heard about is this massive o-line. Can we not run it up the middle to get a first down on 2nd and 1?? That drive most likely would've led to a score and made it a 10 point game going into the 4th quarter. We didn't give ourselves a chance. We had all the momentum after finally stopping them on offense, only to piss it away with that INT.

It went from potentially being a 10 point game, back to a 24 point game in a matter of 1 possession for each team. They out coached us and had the better players on the field. They looked bigger, stronger, faster, and smarter.

Travelin 08-31-2014 11:04 AM

Re: (50 minute Replay) USC vs aTm
 
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Originally Posted by GamecockSuperFan (Post 4245013)
The biggest thing that I questioned in this game was the playcalling on 2nd down and 1 when were down 17 and driving down the field to cut it to 10.

on 2nd and 1 we try some pass for an incomplete. then on 3rd and 1 throw a fade against cover 2 to roland for an INT because the pass was a little too far inside. All we've heard about is this massive o-line. Can we not run it up the middle to get a first down on 2nd and 1?? That drive most likely would've led to a score and made it a 10 point game going into the 4th quarter. We didn't give ourselves a chance.

This is why i went back and watched with real time only. We honestly were close to making it a game than it appeared as it all unfolded. Play calling was definitely an issue. I put the loss on the coaches shoulders much more than any player. And that includes the head honcho himself, the HBC.

crowcutta 08-31-2014 11:07 AM

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i thought lammons and al harris did alright in the 2nd half. we looked bad when we attempted to bump and run. way too many whiffs. a&m had mcwilliams on his heels in the 2nd half, he was never in position to make a play.

i'd look for us to limit the zero blitzes vs ecu.

GamecockSuperFan 08-31-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by eatlighting (Post 4245003)
Who thinks we scrap the 3-4?

UT and UGA sure did if I'm not mistaken. I don't think SOS was pleased.

Bama runs a 3-4 and just let up the most passing yards ever in a game under Saban against WVU.

I think defensive coaches like it because it probably presents more opportunities to disguise blitzes, but man.. You must really have to know how to coach it up like Nick Saban (or just sign the top class every single year) because every other team i've seen run it, the transition has looked ugly at best.

What I love about the 4-2-5 is that it's kind of a 3 deep defense. Your high safety patrols the middle of the field for the most part, the other safety can come up in the box to stop the run or bring pressure. You keep your pass rush with 4 linemen, you keep your speed on the field with 5 DB's. My question is... hasn't the 4-2-5 been working pretty damn well the last i dont know 5 years?? I always loved our defense and the versatility the 4-2-5 brought. My guess is that because of the amount of "talent" at the linebacker position, we want to put those guys in position to make big plays. Go back to what has proven to work. I think ever since Ward became DC he had every intent of switching to a 3-4 because he loves to blitz and bring pressure in different ways. lol at 99 plays / 780 yards. If that doesnt make you throw your gameplan away I don't know what will.

southerntramp 08-31-2014 11:15 AM

Re: (50 minute Replay) USC vs aTm
 
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Originally Posted by Wisercock (Post 4244996)
Not to mention the lack of a SEC caliber DE.

That's a lot to be missing on defense.

And it made perfect sense to go with that 3-4 crap :thumbs:

Can't believe that scheme was even thought of and worse implemented

Cockypantherfan 08-31-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crowcutta (Post 4245024)
i thought lammons and al harris did alright in the 2nd half. we looked bad when we attempted to bump and run. way too many whiffs. a&m had mcwilliams on his heels in the 2nd half, he was never in position to make a play.

i'd look for us to limit the zero blitzes vs ecu.

McWilliams was abused all game long. Surprising with someone who has a decent amount of game experience.

Travelin 08-31-2014 11:18 AM

Re: (50 minute Replay) USC vs aTm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crowcutta (Post 4245024)
i thought lammons and al harris did alright in the 2nd half. we looked bad when we attempted to bump and run. way too many whiffs. a&m had mcwilliams on his heels in the 2nd half, he was never in position to make a play.

i'd look for us to limit the zero blitzes vs ecu.

Don't get me wrong, they weren't that bad, it just so happens they weren't that good, either and they got exposed quickly and often. As expected. I could understand having to start one, but not having one experienced CB to help is not a good position for our defense to start the season. And last year it was the linebackers. I just don't get it. Who the hell is our recruiting coordinator anyway?

I see Jr. is still the recruiting coordinator/ Co-OC and WR coach. I think he's got to much on his plate. Time to let someone else manage our recruiting.

Aggie96 08-31-2014 11:30 AM

Re: (50 minute Replay) USC vs aTm
 
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Originally Posted by GamecockSuperFan (Post 4245030)
Bama runs a 3-4 and just let up the most passing yards ever in a game under Saban against WVU.

I think defensive coaches like it because it probably presents more opportunities to disguise blitzes, but man.. You must really have to know how to coach it up like Nick Saban (or just sign the top class every single year) because every other team i've seen run it, the transition has looked ugly at best.

What I love about the 4-2-5 is that it's kind of a 3 deep defense. Your high safety patrols the middle of the field for the most part, the other safety can come up in the box to stop the run or bring pressure. You keep your pass rush with 4 linemen, you keep your speed on the field with 5 DB's. My question is... hasn't the 4-2-5 been working pretty damn well the last i dont know 5 years?? I always loved our defense and the versatility the 4-2-5 brought. My guess is that because of the amount of "talent" at the linebacker position, we want to put those guys in position to make big plays. Go back to what has proven to work. I think ever since Ward became DC he had every intent of switching to a 3-4 because he loves to blitz and bring pressure in different ways. lol at 99 plays / 780 yards. If that doesnt make you throw your gameplan away I don't know what will.

False, they didn't even come close to the 465 that JFF put on them in the air last year. :-x

GamecockSuperFan 08-31-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Aggie96 (Post 4245051)
False, they didn't even come close to the 465 that JFF put on them in the air last year. :-x

Correction. They allowed the SECOND most passing yards in Saban's tenure as head coach. Trickett threw for 365 yards while manziel threw for 464.


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