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    Not happening!
    Kingston will get this straightened out.

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    I’ve had that thought before as well, but Ray is a good AD and it’s been 7 years. No guarantees head coach Tanner 2.0 would be as good as before. I think coach Kingston will get it done, just wish he’d stop focusing so much on that launch angle and exit velocity crap.

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    Would gladly take this guy back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ35 View Post
    I’ve had that thought before as well, but Ray is a good AD and it’s been 7 years. No guarantees head coach Tanner 2.0 would be as good as before. I think coach Kingston will get it done, just wish he’d stop focusing so much on that launch angle and exit velocity crap.
    Not sure I would call RT a good AD. The facts don't really back that up yet.

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    Ray's choice of baseball coaches hasn't been stellar. Hope springs eternal, but the numbers don't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulwoodwarlord View Post
    Not happening!
    Kingston will get this straightened out.
    Agree. We need to give Mark time to get his recruits here plus have a healthy team.

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    Come on people.... I just read in another thread that people were happy to make the SEC tourney ... REALLY... We have fallen that far. KINGSTON has to GO. TANNER has to GO. I cannot believe the BOT cannot see this. No CEO in the country would keep is job after the last couple of years. CAN YOU SAY FIRST TO WORST.

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    8 pitchers down I'd like to see any school win a national title facing that adversity. Do what you can this year and hope luck is on your side with injuries next year.

    Same for the other sports. If USC stays healthy, they will do well.

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    8 pitchers being out doesn't have anything to do with being a poor hitting team who struggles to score runs. No excuses for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscjeremynca View Post
    8 pitchers being out doesn't have anything to do with being a poor hitting team who struggles to score runs. No excuses for that.
    True. But it does have a great deal to do with the losses, especially as many blown leads we had in late innings. It doesn't matter how good you're hitting if your pitchers suck.
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    At the end of the year, it was actually 10 of 19 pitchers out, including all three weekend starters, plus a couple of guys that would have likely filled in when they went down. We scored enough to win many more games if we could have held the opponent's scoring down even a little.

    Again, I have never seen a year where all three men's teams were decimated by injuries - the pitching staff, the defense on the football team, and numerous basketball players in the preseason, which caused the slow start. People can blame it on the coaches or on Ray, but it is more accurate to blame it on the trainers. Even that is not fair - sometimes people get hurt at higher rates, and it evens out over time. The good news is that young players have to fill the void, and the experience improves the players and builds depth. Next year should be much improved for all three sports.

    Throw in the Lady Gamecocks with all of the new talent, and 2019-2020 could be pretty special. Ray has the other teams - tennis, golf, softball, etc. - going great guns. Heck, Ray's athletic programs have even produced a Miss USA!

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    I disagree with your assessment..............Like....FOR REAL!
    This in response to this:

    Come on people.... I just read in another thread that people were happy to make the SEC tourney ... REALLY... We have fallen that far. KINGSTON has to GO. TANNER has to GO. I cannot believe the BOT cannot see this. No CEO in the country would keep is job after the last couple of years. CAN YOU SAY FIRST TO WORST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCBatgirl21 View Post
    True. But it does have a great deal to do with the losses, especially as many blown leads we had in late innings. It doesn't matter how good you're hitting if your pitchers suck.
    As bad as our pitching was, we averaged only 5.31 runs a game. Our ERA was 5.52. By comparison, we averaged 6.2 runs a game last season. 2017 wasn't a good season but this season was the least amount of runs we scored in a season and the second worst runs per game in two decades.

    Goes back to my other points. Absolutely hate our approach to hitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulwoodwarlord View Post
    I disagree with your assessment..............Like....FOR REAL!
    This in response to this:

    Come on people.... I just read in another thread that people were happy to make the SEC tourney ... REALLY... We have fallen that far. KINGSTON has to GO. TANNER has to GO. I cannot believe the BOT cannot see this. No CEO in the country would keep is job after the last couple of years. CAN YOU SAY FIRST TO WORST.

    YES FOR REAL... Tell me how many CEO's in this country would have kept their jobs, if there subordinates preformed as the athletic Dept. has the last two years. Lets face it folks, whether you like it or not College Athletics is a business. A BIG BUSINESS. If CEO'S or their managers do not preform in BUSINESS they are replaced. IT IS TIME.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscjeremynca View Post
    8 pitchers being out doesn't have anything to do with being a poor hitting team who struggles to score runs. No excuses for that.
    But the 2017 team was the one Kingston took over, so don't leave that out of the equation. He increased their runs per game by more than a run. Do you think the fact that he lost 4 of 5 .300 hitters and 75% of our RBI's 2 years removed from a team that scored .5 runs fewer per game than this years had anything to do with it?
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    Based on comments from other coaches and former USC players Mark is a very good coach. He has had less than one full recruiting class to date. He had loads of injuries this year and a VERY FEW are ready to fire him. He took over a sinking program and has not had time to get his full roster of recruits. He should not be judged until that time. IMO he will do just fine.

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    Here is Ray's overall record as a head coach.

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    While people were critical of him at times during his coaching career here, he was very consistent at getting to the NCAAT which came from a competitive fire inside him. Only Dawn comes close to him as far as reaching the NCAAT goes.

    He's 8th among active coaches in terms of winning percentage.

    It's hard to say where the dividing line is between a player and coach in terms of execution issues and the same goes for an AD and HC.

    Has a coach been asking for help and not getting it or has an AD been offering to suggestions to a coach that have gone in one ear and out the other? Probably a little bit of both in a real world.

    Who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoosterBooster View Post
    But the 2017 team was the one Kingston took over, so don't leave that out of the equation. He increased their runs per game by more than a run. Do you think the fact that he lost 4 of 5 .300 hitters and 75% of our RBI's 2 years removed from a team that scored .5 runs fewer per game than this years had anything to do with it?
    See post above. Offensively, this was one of the worst teams we've had since the turn of the century. Batting average was atrocious. I am not a fan of the style of play or results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CayceCock View Post
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    I am not giving up on Kingston after year two with the injuries that this team had. He needs to get better over the next two years. If he doesn't...then I will be concerned. This is just a part of what happens some years.

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