Dylan Thompson 2012-13 Highlights

[BeatBamaTwice]

Dylan's 2012-13 highlights



And for balance, Connor's 1st 6 games



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[CoverTwo]

Well, I'll go ahead and say it and get blasted.

Comparing the two videos and what we have seen from both QBs so far .. there are throws Dylan made that Connor can't.

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[me4USC]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

Well, I'll go ahead and say it and get blasted.

Comparing the two videos and what we have seen from both QBs so far .. there are throws Dylan made that Connor can't.

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Yep, wait for it. 5.... 4..... 3..... 2...... 1......



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[BeatBamaTwice]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

Well, I'll go ahead and say it and get blasted.

Comparing the two videos and what we have seen from both QBs so far .. there are throws Dylan made that Connor can't.

True, at least last year. But in fairness, there are shifts, moves and long runs that Connor made that Dylan couldn't make, at least last year. I just think it fantastic that we're blessed with two SEC quality QBs, that it creates preparation nightmares for our opponents while improving Coach's sleep, dreams and options.

[GamecockMomSC]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

Well, I'll go ahead and say it and get blasted.

Comparing the two videos and what we have seen from both QBs so far .. there are throws Dylan made that Connor can't.

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I'll agree with you so you won't get blasted alone.

Connor is great, but he is a running quarterback. He doesn't like to release the ball unless there is a player open.

Dylan will follow the play and release the ball, trusting the receiver will make it to to the spot.

IMO, Dylan is the type of QB that Coach has traditionally favored when he runs a passing offense like the Fun 'N' Gun.

[OldPat]

Originally Posted by GamecockMomSC

I'll agree with you so you won't get blasted alone.

Connor is great, but he is a running quarterback. He doesn't like to release the ball unless there is a player open.

Dylan will follow the play and release the ball, trusting the receiver will make it to to the spot.

IMO, Dylan is the type of QB that Coach has traditionally favored when he runs a passing offense like the Fun 'N' Gun.

Girl, you married? If not, how old? Like the way your brain works. LOL.

[GamecockMomSC]

Originally Posted by OldPat

Girl, you married? If not, how old? Like the way your brain works. LOL.

I'm married, sorry.

[johnnyb]

Originally Posted by GamecockMomSC

I'm married, sorry.

been on here a month and already breaking hearts

[eaglegolf018]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

Well, I'll go ahead and say it and get blasted.

Comparing the two videos and what we have seen from both QBs so far .. there are throws Dylan made that Connor can't.

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No debate to be made. That's a fact.

Some off the top of my head.

Clemson game
Back shoulder to Bruce
Deep square in to Nick Jones
That bullet on the deep in to Ace to go ahead
The final TD to Bruce (Connor takes off)
The 2 deep outs to Ace

Michigan
The long pass to Nice on the seam route
The final TD to Bruce (Beauty. Dropped it right where it needed to be)

ECU
The deep ball that D. Smith caught in the corner.

There's also some plays Connor can make that Dylan can't. Dylan can't get out of that sack on the final drive against Michigan.

But the thing that Dylan can do 10x better than Connor is the 2nd and 3rd level passes. It has so much potential to be explosive with all this speed

[Badazcock]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

Well, I'll go ahead and say it and get blasted.

Comparing the two videos and what we have seen from both QBs so far .. there are throws Dylan made that Connor can't.

-exits thread slowly and quietly-

No reason to get blasted...Dylan has the better arm. He knows where each and every guy will be on the feild and delivers a very accurate shot. Shaw is the better runner. Alot of times it seems to me Shaw isnt sure where his second or third receiver will be.....Isnt this a great problem to have?? I know I love it!!

[Coulwoodwarlord]

He's out there to do one thing.............pull the trigger !



Got pretty damn good at it too !

[CoverTwo]

I mean its not a bad thing at all. Connor can obviously do things that Dylan can't but from a pure passing aspect, Dylan's arm strength and vision (probably a result of the height difference between the two) stands out. The in route to Nick Jones against Clemson is the best example.

Dylan isn't perfect. He'll put the ball in danger more than Connor will and he only completed 52% of his passes last season. It is a high risk/high reward but those passes he completes sure do look purdy.

I tell you one thing, if the work they are putting in with Dylan to improve throwing to his left pays off .. that guy is going to light up some secondaries this season. For those wondering what I am talking about, when throwing to the left hash/boundary, Dylan sometimes has a fundamental breakdown and throws across his body. They are working extremely hard on fixing that from what I have read. If thats the only part of his game that needs fine tuning, then he is going to be damn good.

[BornCocky'86]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

I mean its not a bad thing at all. Connor can obviously do things that Dylan can't but from a pure passing aspect, Dylan's arm strength and vision (probably a result of the height difference between the two) stands out. The in route to Nick Jones against Clemson is the best example.

Dylan isn't perfect. He'll put the ball in danger more than Connor will and he only completed 52% of his passes last season. It is a high risk/high reward but those passes he completes sure do look purdy.

I tell you one thing, if the work they are putting in with Dylan to improve throwing to his left pays off .. that guy is going to light up some secondaries this season. For those wondering what I am talking about, when throwing to the left hash/boundary, Dylan sometimes has a fundamental breakdown and throws across his body. They are working extremely hard on fixing that from what I have read. If thats the only part of his game that needs fine tuning, then he is going to be damn good.

Dylan maybe has a little bit better of an arm but that's not saying much.
A lot of his throws 'float'
Def agree Dylan is better passer but can't equate all the things that Shaw has done as far as playing injured and playing smart.

[henmania]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

I mean its not a bad thing at all. Connor can obviously do things that Dylan can't but from a pure passing aspect, Dylan's arm strength and vision (probably a result of the height difference between the two) stands out. The in route to Nick Jones against Clemson is the best example.

Dylan isn't perfect. He'll put the ball in danger more than Connor will and he only completed 52% of his passes last season. It is a high risk/high reward but those passes he completes sure do look purdy.

I tell you one thing, if the work they are putting in with Dylan to improve throwing to his left pays off .. that guy is going to light up some secondaries this season. For those wondering what I am talking about, when throwing to the left hash/boundary, Dylan sometimes has a fundamental breakdown and throws across his body. They are working extremely hard on fixing that from what I have read. If thats the only part of his game that needs fine tuning, then he is going to be damn good.

Connor's throwing motion looked off. He was having to put his whole body into certain throws. He didn't look like that the year before. I wonder how much that hurt shoulder really bothered him?

[CoverTwo]

Originally Posted by henmania

Connor's throwing motion looked off. He was having to put his whole body into certain throws. He didn't look like that the year before. I wonder how much that hurt shoulder really bothered him?

I'm sure the shoulder was never 100% the entire year. In fact, I heard through the grapevine that he partially tore his labrum during the Summer before the season even started and that is the reason they took him off the weights and restricted the amount of throwing he was doing closer to Fall practice. A lot of people that attended practices commented that something looked off with respect to his ball velocity last Fall practice so I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least some truth to a preseason injury.

The bowl game, he actually looked like himself aka the guy that finished 2011 with a bang before re-aggravating his foot which is why he got more snaps than Dylan in that game.. People need to remember that.

[henmania]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

I'm sure the shoulder was never 100% the entire year. In fact, I heard through the grapevine that he partially tore his labrum during the Summer before the season even started and that is the reason they took him off the weights and restricted the amount of throwing he was doing closer to Fall practice. A lot of people that attended practices commented that something looked off with respect to his ball velocity last Fall practice so I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least some truth to a preseason injury.

The bowl game, he actually looked like himself aka the guy that finished 2011 with a bang before re-aggravating his foot which is why he got more snaps than Dylan in that game.. People need to remember that.

I had heard the same thing about the torn labrum. There may be something to that.

[ConwayGamecock]

Originally Posted by CoverTwo

I'm sure the shoulder was never 100% the entire year. In fact, I heard through the grapevine that he partially tore his labrum during the Summer before the season even started and that is the reason they took him off the weights and restricted the amount of throwing he was doing closer to Fall practice. A lot of people that attended practices commented that something looked off with respect to his ball velocity last Fall practice so I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least some truth to a preseason injury.

The bowl game, he actually looked like himself aka the guy that finished 2011 with a bang before re-aggravating his foot which is why he got more snaps than Dylan in that game.. People need to remember that.

This: also it's a bit unfair to Connor that his highlight video posted - which is part of the main context of this thread - are only highlights of his first 6 games. Connor's shoulder was hurt the most during these 6 games: he dealt with loss of strength in his throwing arm, and a limitation of range of motion. I never saw any official confirmation from the staff, but I'm sure they limited the type of throws Shaw could attempt as a result of his injury. This time period is most reflected by his "highlight" video...

Connor's top 2 passing games of last season - versus SEC opponents Tennessee and Arkansas - are not included on his video. In those games, Connor went a combined 36 of 54 (67%) for 628 yds, 5 TDs and 2 INT. He averaged over 17 yds per pass completion (Dylan averaged just under 15 ypc versus both ECU and CU).

These are nice videos and make for good off-season discussion, but IMO they are not very equitable towards both Dylan and Connor.....

[me4USC]

Originally Posted by ConwayGamecock

This: also it's a bit unfair to Connor that his highlight video posted - which is part of the main context of this thread - are only highlights of his first 6 games. Connor's shoulder was hurt the most during these 6 games: he dealt with loss of strength in his throwing arm, and a limitation of range of motion. I never saw any official confirmation from the staff, but I'm sure they limited the type of throws Shaw could attempt as a result of his injury. This time period is most reflected by his "highlight" video...

Connor's top 2 passing games of last season - versus SEC opponents Tennessee and Arkansas - are not included on his video. In those games, Connor went a combined 36 of 54 (67%) for 628 yds, 5 TDs and 2 INT. He averaged over 17 yds per pass completion (Dylan averaged just under 15 ypc versus both ECU and CU).

These are nice videos and make for good off-season discussion, but IMO they are not very equitable towards both Dylan and Connor.....

The SEC Network and ESPN made the highlight video of Dylan, not the OP. They didn't make one of Connor this year that I could find - and I tried. The OP was trying to be fair to Connor. He could not help it that there was no highlight video for him.

The thread is entitled "Dylan Thompson 2012-13 Highlights." The OP made it clear that it was a thread about Thompson. That he posted any video at all of Shaw went further than the intent shown by the stated topic.

You are welcome to start a Shaw thread with videos of him. He's a great quarterback, and I hope he'll come back at 100% in the fall. I actually did post a video of ECU, UAB, and Mizzou to try to even it up. That video features 1 1/2 games of each of them, and Mizzou was the game in which Shaw established his "20 passes in a row" record.

[Flameout12]

Originally Posted by ConwayGamecock

These are nice videos and make for good off-season discussion, but IMO they are not very equitable towards both Dylan and Connor.....

Agree...it's easy to forget that Connor's hail-mary to Alshon went 50+ yds in the air and Connor just planted and let it fly. Seems he threw some nicer deep balls in '11....just didn't throw enough of 'em.

[bhs04]

The thing that makes people nervous about Dylan is that he has had a lot I dropped interceptions and has a lower completion percentage.

My argument to this has been that, the more he plays, the less that will happen. He will get into a rythym faster, know when to and when not to throw the ball, and eventually become more accurate.

I think getting into a flow if the game faster will help his completion percentage also. He tends to "dirt" a few balls when the games first start though he was getting better at that as the year went along.

In the long run, I think the basic question is:
How good is your good?
Basically I think Dylan has a higher ceiling than Connor. And we have the coaches to coach him to it. I think the most important thing now is in the repetition.