"Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season..

cofcgamecock9 · 03-23-2013, 12:35 AM

I put "realistic" in quotation marks in the title because usually asking posters to be realistic would mean asking them to slightly temper their expectations. And this is kind of what I am asking, but the thing about Clowney is that it just isn't that out of the question for some to think he has no ceiling.

So with that said, what is your "realistic" expectation of how Clowney will be remembered after his junior season barring a serious injury?

1. He makes All-SEC and has a very good year by most people's standards, but doesn't do much to enshrine himself as a "legend." Maybe think of Melvin Ingram's senior season as a comparison. Great year that gets hims plenty of props, but not in serious Heisman Contention, etc.
2. He builds slightly on what we saw this year and he once again is 1st team All-American. Maybe finishes in top 3 for Heisman and wins several defensive player of the year awards. 1st or 2nd overall pick in the draft and people are talking about him. For this example, lets say similar to Ndamukong Suh at Nebraska. GREAT player, but pretty similar to the other GREAT players that go 1st or 2nd in the draft each year.
3. Clowney takes it to a whole new level and seriously re-defines EXCELLENCE on the defensive side of the ball. For this example, think Lebron James as a college football player. Clowney ends the season being talked about as the greatest player to ever play the college game.

uscsandstorm85 · 03-23-2013, 12:57 AM

Somewhere between 2 and 3, closer to 3.

markymark550 · 03-23-2013, 01:14 AM

I would say scenario 2.

I don't think it's ever realistic to expect someone to be talked about as the greatest ever and redefining excellence. That's an enormous task that has to be earned during the year with hard work, not just expect it to happen. Now, I'm not saying Clowney can't achieve that - I hope he does - I just think it's unfair and unrealistic to place that on him.

riceatusc · 03-23-2013, 03:12 AM

well they say that clowney is working harder than ever and he is really pushing himself

gsmith4776 · 03-23-2013, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by riceatusc

well they say that clowney is working harder than ever and he is really pushing himself

This is like a contract year for him. He's one of those guys that won't reach full potential until he's really challenged in the pros

GamecockInHell · 03-23-2013, 07:12 AM

Clowney is going to get beat on worse than Shaq did his jumior year at LSU. Teams are going to scheme away from him, and double and triple team him. If he has the same great year he had this year it will be enough to earn him millions. But I really feel like he will step his game up to another level and be a dominant player.

gamecock88 · 03-23-2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GamecockInHell

Clowney is going to get beat on worse than Shaq did his jumior year at LSU. Teams are going to scheme away from him, and double and triple team him. If he has the same great year he had this year it will be enough to earn him millions. But I really feel like he will step his game up to another level and be a dominant player.

Triple team? I hope so.

EveryThingGreen · 03-23-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GamecockInHell

Clowney is going to get beat on worse than Shaq did his jumior year at LSU. Teams are going to scheme away from him, and double and triple team him. If he has the same great year he had this year it will be enough to earn him millions. But I really feel like he will step his game up to another level and be a dominant player.

teams were doing that this year.

there are 10 other players on the defense, you can only pay so much attention to 1 guy.

lance_uppercut · 03-23-2013, 08:35 AM

CLOWNEY GONNA RUN THE BUTTBLOOD TRAIN ALL OVER THE OPPOSITION!!! CHOO M'FN CHOO!!!

FanofCarolina1 · 03-23-2013, 09:38 AM

All I want is for him to do what he does best and stay healthy all season.

EveryThingGreen · 03-23-2013, 09:39 AM

17.5 sacks
30 tfl
6 forced fumbles

AtlGAMECOCK · 03-23-2013, 09:48 AM

i think he will do scenario 2

Emery · 03-23-2013, 09:49 AM

Based on probabilities, he won't win the heisman. Will likely be in top three since already getting so much love. I have no idea about stats.

Realistically, I just hope his conditioning gets better and whatever switch he flips on during certain plays gets flipped a little more often.

Coulwoodwarlord · 03-23-2013, 10:01 AM

Week 2 will set the tone for the season.

Goofyboy · 03-23-2013, 01:29 PM

I'm not sure I would use "realistic" and Clowney in the same sentence. Most of us have seen him do things that move us toward unreal thinking or disbelief. As hard as it is to predict - especially about the future, I can comfortably see 2 or 3 defensive touchdowns scored, maybe 5 -7 forced fumbles, 14+ sacks with another 4+ sack game, 20+ tackles for loss, and maybe 1 or 2 interceptions. An intercepted handoff seems feasible if you watched "the hit" play closely. I also wouldn't be surprised with a good amount of second half time on the bench in games that are comfortably in-hand.

Order 66 · 03-23-2013, 01:40 PM

1. Breaks sack record for season.
2. 1st team all American, all SEC
3. First pick in the NFL draft.

Heisman would be great, but a little unrealistic.

FearThethumbandDJ · 03-23-2013, 02:50 PM

He will kill somebody on the field.

sandstorm2001 · 03-26-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FearThethumbandDJ

He will kill somebody on the field.

Ok, honest question. Would this help or hurt his Heisman chances??

Gamecocks111 · 03-23-2013, 03:02 PM

Because of all the hype surrounding him he could win the heisman with the same stats as last year. If we give him the ball in a couple goal line situations, will win it handily.

CockyATO · 03-23-2013, 03:08 PM

I agree with giving him the ball on the goal line.

Can anyone remember a player getting so much national love without ever scoring a touchdown? That's impressive. Once he does, the lids going to blow off this thing.

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cofcgamecock9 2nd Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,175 CockyCash: 100500	"Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. I put "realistic" in quotation marks in the title because usually asking posters to be realistic would mean asking them to slightly temper their expectations. And this is kind of what I am asking, but the thing about Clowney is that it just isn't that out of the question for some to think he has no ceiling. So with that said, what is your "realistic" expectation of how Clowney will be remembered after his junior season barring a serious injury? 1. He makes All-SEC and has a very good year by most people's standards, but doesn't do much to enshrine himself as a "legend." Maybe think of Melvin Ingram's senior season as a comparison. Great year that gets hims plenty of props, but not in serious Heisman Contention, etc. 2. He builds slightly on what we saw this year and he once again is 1st team All-American. Maybe finishes in top 3 for Heisman and wins several defensive player of the year awards. 1st or 2nd overall pick in the draft and people are talking about him. For this example, lets say similar to Ndamukong Suh at Nebraska. GREAT player, but pretty similar to the other GREAT players that go 1st or 2nd in the draft each year. 3. Clowney takes it to a whole new level and seriously re-defines EXCELLENCE on the defensive side of the ball. For this example, think Lebron James as a college football player. Clowney ends the season being talked about as the greatest player to ever play the college game.

03-23-2013, 12:57 AM	#2
uscsandstorm85 Game MVP Male Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Anywhere USC is playing. Posts: 1,520 CockyCash: 500	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. Somewhere between 2 and 3, closer to 3. __________________ "I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended."-S. Spurrier on scheduling changes in the sec.

03-23-2013, 01:14 AM	#3
markymark550 Blue Chip Male Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 606 CockyCash: 500	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. I would say scenario 2. I don't think it's ever realistic to expect someone to be talked about as the greatest ever and redefining excellence. That's an enormous task that has to be earned during the year with hard work, not just expect it to happen. Now, I'm not saying Clowney can't achieve that - I hope he does - I just think it's unfair and unrealistic to place that on him.

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riceatusc Misses Old Cockytalk Male Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: greenville, sc Posts: 8,682 CockyCash: 520000000	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. well they say that clowney is working harder than ever and he is really pushing himself __________________ BEEN HERE SINCE BEFORE 2007? OLD COCKYTALK SOCIAL GROUP WANTS YOU

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GamecockInHell 2nd Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Hephzibah, Ga Posts: 2,526 CockyCash: 4504	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. Clowney is going to get beat on worse than Shaq did his jumior year at LSU. Teams are going to scheme away from him, and double and triple team him. If he has the same great year he had this year it will be enough to earn him millions. But I really feel like he will step his game up to another level and be a dominant player.

03-23-2013, 08:35 AM	#9
lance_uppercut Banned Male Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: columbia Posts: 267 CockyCash: 1450	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. CLOWNEY GONNA RUN THE BUTTBLOOD TRAIN ALL OVER THE OPPOSITION!!! CHOO M'FN CHOO!!!

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FanofCarolina1 1st Team All-American Male Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kingsland, Ga. Posts: 10,480 CockyCash: 200	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. All I want is for him to do what he does best and stay healthy all season. __________________

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Emery Game MVP Male Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lexington SC Posts: 1,570 CockyCash: 1000	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. Based on probabilities, he won't win the heisman. Will likely be in top three since already getting so much love. I have no idea about stats. Realistically, I just hope his conditioning gets better and whatever switch he flips on during certain plays gets flipped a little more often.

03-23-2013, 10:01 AM	#14
Coulwoodwarlord 2nd Team All-SEC Male Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Charlotte N.C. Posts: 2,723 CockyCash: 310000	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. Week 2 will set the tone for the season.

03-23-2013, 01:29 PM	#15
Goofyboy Game MVP Male Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sumter Posts: 1,942 CockyCash: 500	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. I'm not sure I would use "realistic" and Clowney in the same sentence. Most of us have seen him do things that move us toward unreal thinking or disbelief. As hard as it is to predict - especially about the future, I can comfortably see 2 or 3 defensive touchdowns scored, maybe 5 -7 forced fumbles, 14+ sacks with another 4+ sack game, 20+ tackles for loss, and maybe 1 or 2 interceptions. An intercepted handoff seems feasible if you watched "the hit" play closely. I also wouldn't be surprised with a good amount of second half time on the bench in games that are comfortably in-hand.

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Order 66 needs rep Male Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cayce Posts: 6,519 CockyCash: 100500	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. 1. Breaks sack record for season. 2. 1st team all American, all SEC 3. First pick in the NFL draft. Heisman would be great, but a little unrealistic. __________________ CU is in Colorado, Death Valley is in Louisiana, and THE state university in South Carolina is, and always will be, THE University of South Carolina. Tweet that....

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FearThethumbandDJ 4-Star Male Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 439 CockyCash: 500	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. He will kill somebody on the field.

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Gamecocks111 Recruit Male Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Lexinfton Posts: 182 CockyCash: 500	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. Because of all the hype surrounding him he could win the heisman with the same stats as last year. If we give him the ball in a couple goal line situations, will win it handily. __________________

03-23-2013, 03:08 PM	#20
CockyATO Lowcountry Alumnus Male Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Charlotte Posts: 416 CockyCash: 500	Re: "Realistic" expectations for Clowney this season.. I agree with giving him the ball on the goal line. Can anyone remember a player getting so much national love without ever scoring a touchdown? That's impressive. Once he does, the lids going to blow off this thing. __________________ Another N00k production

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