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Old 12-09-2013, 02:22 AM   #1
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Default How would you rate Coach Elliot's performance this year?

Hello from Utah! I'd like to know your gut feelings about the way Coach Elliot has handled the O-line this year. I don't get to see many games, but what I have seen gives me the impression that the offensive line is pretty good, but not great nor dominant, even though they have the size and the talent (at least when they were recruited) to be both. If I'm wrong, tell me. But I noted several technique problems of poor use of the hands or poor foot work or leveraging issues allowing smaller players to get under their pads and get them off balance. Don't get me wrong. They're good. But the recruiting successes we've had recently has lead me to expect better.
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:38 AM   #2
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They started out good but kinda lacked near the end. He's a good coach and his recruiting has helped but I'd like to see more consistency.
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Elliott is an AMAZING recruiter and a hell of an OL Coach. He brings in A LOT of highly ranked OL every year.

Last year we were ranked 102nd nationally for Sacks Allowed. This year, 52nd, which is a huge improvement.

Last year we were ranked 100th for Tackles for a Loss Allowed. This year, 29th, another HUGE improvement.
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But like MWard said, it does take a long time
To build depth and talent at those positions! He's brought many great recruits here!
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Who is coach elliot?
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:53 AM   #6
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Love the guy. Have never seen such size on our o line
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:12 AM   #7
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Default Re: How would you rate Coach Elliot's performance this year?

Honest Opinion:

He did a better job this year than in his previous 3 years, BUT
with the experience, depth and SIZE he had to work with, overall I'd call
it an Underachievement. .. Sorry if I hurt the feelings of the Coach Elliott
supporters, but we have faced much smaller, and much less talented
programs who do a MUCH better job on their O/Line than ours. Our O/Line
has faced "so-so" D/lines this season and struggled to hold their own
against them. We did very good "In Spots" in both the run and pass blocking
but as I said, overall, we underachieved on the line this year. If you gave
our talent, and our size and depth to O/Line coaches like the ones at
UT, or Florida etc... This unit would be much (MUCH) better than what they
put out here. I'm convinced of that. ALSO...If you look at the O/Line of
Auburns, and what their O/line coach has done there vs what we've done
here it puts things in perspective. Last year their O/line was average
AT BEST. This year, they might well be the best O/line in the country
and with a much more complicated scheme of blocking than ours here.

I'll give credit to Coach Elliott for the improvements. It was "OK" for
the most part. HOWEVER, "OK" isn't good for the size and experience we
had going for us this year on our Line. .... Someone stated it above and
was accurate in saying that we also seemed to have gotten worse as
the season went on rather than improve.

If it were a report card, I'd give the O/Line a C- for the season.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:16 AM   #8
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Honest Opinion:

He did a better job this year than in his previous 3 years, BUT
with the experience, depth and SIZE he had to work with, overall I'd call
it an Underachievement. .. Sorry if I hurt the feelings of the Coach Elliott
supporters, but we have faced much smaller, and much less talented
programs who do a MUCH better job on their O/Line than ours. Our O/Line
has faced "so-so" D/lines this season and struggled to hold their own
against them. We did very good "In Spots" in both the run and pass blocking
but as I said, overall, we underachieved on the line this year. If you gave
our talent, and our size and depth to O/Line coaches like the ones at
UT, or Florida etc... This unit would be much (MUCH) better than what they
put out here. I'm convinced of that. ALSO...If you look at the O/Line of
Auburns, and what their O/line coach has done there vs what we've done
here it puts things in perspective. Last year their O/line was average
AT BEST. This year, they might well be the best O/line in the country
and with a much more complicated scheme of blocking than ours here.

I'll give credit to Coach Elliott for the improvements. It was "OK" for
the most part. HOWEVER, "OK" isn't good for the size and experience we
had going for us this year on our Line. .... Someone stated it above and
was accurate in saying that we also seemed to have gotten worse as
the season went on rather than improve.

If it were a report card, I'd give the O/Line a C- for the season.
I will agree that I expected more from our OL this year. However, to say that Aubie's blocking schemes are more complicated is dead wrong. They run the zone plays just like we do, they run the power O play just like we do. They dress it up with a jet sweep and a fake here and a fake there, and they may read a different person, depending on the play, but it's still a zone step and get on your track and block the man in the way. It's the same scheme. The difference is teaching the landmarks, the progression, the steps, etc.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:17 PM   #9
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Honest Opinion:

He did a better job this year than in his previous 3 years, BUT
with the experience, depth and SIZE he had to work with, overall I'd call
it an Underachievement. .. Sorry if I hurt the feelings of the Coach Elliott
supporters, but we have faced much smaller, and much less talented
programs who do a MUCH better job on their O/Line than ours. Our O/Line
has faced "so-so" D/lines this season and struggled to hold their own
against them. We did very good "In Spots" in both the run and pass blocking
but as I said, overall, we underachieved on the line this year. If you gave
our talent, and our size and depth to O/Line coaches like the ones at
UT, or Florida etc... This unit would be much (MUCH) better than what they
put out here. I'm convinced of that. ALSO...If you look at the O/Line of
Auburns, and what their O/line coach has done there vs what we've done
here it puts things in perspective. Last year their O/line was average
AT BEST. This year, they might well be the best O/line in the country
and with a much more complicated scheme of blocking than ours here.

I'll give credit to Coach Elliott for the improvements. It was "OK" for
the most part. HOWEVER, "OK" isn't good for the size and experience we
had going for us this year on our Line. .... Someone stated it above and
was accurate in saying that we also seemed to have gotten worse as
the season went on rather than improve.

If it were a report card, I'd give the O/Line a C- for the season.

I pretty much agree with what Spurticus stated above. I thought that they would play a whole lot better giving the size and talent that we had on this O-Line. They got pushed around way too much and could not do anything against Pickens County Tech in the run game. I like Coach Elliott, but I think that he has got to do better and make us a more dominant O-Line.
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Default Re: How would you rate Coach Elliot's performance this year?

Everyone pointed to this season as the year we finaly start seeing results on the offensive line. I think next year the line play will be even better and will continue to trend towards being a strength as long as Elliot is here and is recruiting good players. OL isnt a unit that can be fixed in one or two seasons. Its a 3+ season thing.
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I pretty much agree with what Spurticus stated above. I thought that they would play a whole lot better giving the size and talent that we had on this O-Line. They got pushed around way too much and could not do anything against Pickens County Tech in the run game. I like Coach Elliott, but I think that he has got to do better and make us a more dominant O-Line.
Would not put to much stock into what Pickens Tech did. They found a flaw in our alignment that gave away the play. They new if it was going to be a run or pass and were able to determine prior to snap if it was a run or pass. I know Deshaun Williams Dad and he told me this after the fact. SC and Elliot were made aware of this after the fact and are making changes to the OL to prevent this. I am sure others heard the same thing.
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Would not put to much stock into what Pickens Tech did. They found a flaw in our alignment that gave away the play. They new if it was going to be a run or pass and were able to determine prior to snap if it was a run or pass. I know Deshaun Williams Dad and he told me this after the fact. SC and Elliot were made aware of this after the fact and are making changes to the OL to prevent this. I am sure others heard the same thing.
The same thing was said coming out of the Tenn game and apparently nothing changed.
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Would not put to much stock into what Pickens Tech did. They found a flaw in our alignment that gave away the play. They new if it was going to be a run or pass and were able to determine prior to snap if it was a run or pass. I know Deshaun Williams Dad and he told me this after the fact. SC and Elliot were made aware of this after the fact and are making changes to the OL to prevent this. I am sure others heard the same thing.
As Dizzy01 pointed out, this was not a secret. I've seen internet posts and heard calls on the radio for at least half the season about Shaw and our o-lineman tipping off the defense as to run or pass. The fact that we evidently didn't adjust, and Clemson used it against us in the last game of the season, is disheartening.
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They showed great improvement over last season, especially early on. They did seem to revert back somewhat over the end of the season. Still tons of room for improvement but the unit as a whole has gotten better. SE coaching style should get a B. OL play would also score a B.

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They showed great improvement over last season, especially early on. They did seem to revert back somewhat over the end of the season. Still tons of room for improvement but the unit as a whole has gotten better. SE coaching style should get a B. OL play would also score a B.

I think a B is too high. This OL has talent but the fundamentals leave something To be desired. Corey Robinson should be further along in his development but he is not there. I would give him a C.
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They did fine against bigger and slower dlines but struggled against smaller faster units. There are some big guys on the line but they aren't exactly the most mobile group. I think a lot of people equate size to effectiveness on the oline but that isn't always the case. This is one unit that was largely ignored in recruiting for the first few years of Spurrier's tenure here so they are still dealing with lack of quality depth and actual players.
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I agree with spurticus. I was going to say a B, but that would be a bit of a curve because if we didn't have 28 and a very mobile QB I'm sure they would have looked a letter grade or more worse.
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Also, gotta' note we had a couple of pretty key injuries in the interior of the OL and never really seemed to recover 100% from that.
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Decent. Grade C+.

There were times when they took over games like at UCF when we ran the ball at will almost. Then there were times they couldn't block anyone like Tenn and struggling to run at all against Clemson and Florida.

So basically inconsistent. Not dominant enough to get us to the SEC championship or BCS
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