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Old 12-13-2013, 04:30 PM   #1
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I just read the actual victim statement portion... pretty disturbing.
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This whole thing is messed up....the two "witnesses" were pretty obviously coached as their original statements are virtually identical....by this I mean the wording they use is identical not just the story. I bet a good investigator that wanted the truth could crack one of these two in a few minutes. Another thing that stood out was from my reading of it the DNA on her shorts was actually of blood not other bodily fluids. Finally, the fact they used her story varying as the reason they dismissed it is terrible. In a couple month time period her story changed very little and isn't out of line with how memories are altered normally in the human brain. After reading a good bit of the report there is no doubt in my mind something is up down there in Tallahassee.
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It doesn't look good for the Police Department.
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Was the girl white?
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Oh so you get raped but get a ride back on a scooter and get dropped off? SMH
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Whoever leaked this is a scumbag who has NO PLACE in a criminal justice position of any kind

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I think by now we're all too familiar with Florida's lack of a legitimate criminal justice system.......but she'll get paid in a couple of years and he'll be happy to settle.
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I think by now we're all too familiar with Florida's lack of a legitimate criminal justice system.......but she'll get paid in a couple of years and he'll be happy to settle.
She is not going to get paid if she would have timed this better and did it after next years draft she would definitely get paid.

Unfortunately, it resurfaced when he has no money. She might be able to get some money from the Florida police department though.
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She is not going to get paid if she would have timed this better and did it after next years draft she would definitely get paid.

Unfortunately, it resurfaced when he has no money. She might be able to get some money from the Florida police department though.
You are confusing criminal prosecution with a civil lawsuit. For example, if I steal your car and drive it off a cliff, the State can prosecute me for grand theft auto. But you also have a private cause of action to sue me for the value of the car I stole from you and destroyed -- which makes sense. This is exactly what happened to O.J. Simpson. He was tried and acquitted in the criminal case, but sued by the families and lost. Keep in mind the burden of proof is generally lower in a civil case (preponderance of the evidence, basically a verbose way of saying more likely than not) as opposed to a criminal case (beyond a reasonable doubt).

The State of Florida has declined to formally prosecute Winston as a criminal.

However, if she wants, she can file a civil lawsuit against him until the statute of limitations runs out. If she waits and sues him after he has an NFL salary, there will be a LOT of pressure on him to settle because he'll want to avoid the public trial, which could include introducing evidence previously undisclosed to the public. Plus his roommate would almost certainly get subpoenaed and might have some very interesting things to say on the stand.
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You are confusing criminal prosecution with a civil lawsuit. For example, if I steal your car and drive it off a cliff, the State can prosecute me for grand theft auto. But you also have a private cause of action to sue me for the value of the car I stole from you and destroyed -- which makes sense. This is exactly what happened to O.J. Simpson. He was tried and acquitted in the criminal case, but sued by the families and lost. Keep in mind the burden of proof is generally lower in a civil case (preponderance of the evidence, basically a verbose way of saying more likely than not) as opposed to a criminal case (beyond a reasonable doubt).

The State of Florida has declined to formally prosecute Winston as a criminal.

However, if she wants, she can file a civil lawsuit against him until the statute of limitations runs out. If she waits and sues him after he has an NFL salary, there will be a LOT of pressure on him to settle because he'll want to avoid the public trial, which could include introducing evidence previously undisclosed to the public. Plus his roommate would almost certainly get subpoenaed and might have some very interesting things to say on the stand.
Spot on. She's got 3 years to bring suit. What's interesting to me is going to be whether he goes pro or sticks around, he could try to wait it out.
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You are confusing criminal prosecution with a civil lawsuit. For example, if I steal your car and drive it off a cliff, the State can prosecute me for grand theft auto. But you also have a private cause of action to sue me for the value of the car I stole from you and destroyed -- which makes sense. This is exactly what happened to O.J. Simpson. He was tried and acquitted in the criminal case, but sued by the families and lost. Keep in mind the burden of proof is generally lower in a civil case (preponderance of the evidence, basically a verbose way of saying more likely than not) as opposed to a criminal case (beyond a reasonable doubt).

The State of Florida has declined to formally prosecute Winston as a criminal.

However, if she wants, she can file a civil lawsuit against him until the statute of limitations runs out. If she waits and sues him after he has an NFL salary, there will be a LOT of pressure on him to settle because he'll want to avoid the public trial, which could include introducing evidence previously undisclosed to the public. Plus his roommate would almost certainly get subpoenaed and might have some very interesting things to say on the stand.
This is what I was alluding to in my post. There is plenty of evidence here to put Winston at risk financially. Plus, he will have an incentive to settle privately so he'll be able to pick up huge endorsement money. Anyone thinking otherwise is just naive.
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You are confusing criminal prosecution with a civil lawsuit. For example, if I steal your car and drive it off a cliff, the State can prosecute me for grand theft auto. But you also have a private cause of action to sue me for the value of the car I stole from you and destroyed -- which makes sense. This is exactly what happened to O.J. Simpson. He was tried and acquitted in the criminal case, but sued by the families and lost. Keep in mind the burden of proof is generally lower in a civil case (preponderance of the evidence, basically a verbose way of saying more likely than not) as opposed to a criminal case (beyond a reasonable doubt).

The State of Florida has declined to formally prosecute Winston as a criminal.

However, if she wants, she can file a civil lawsuit against him until the statute of limitations runs out. If she waits and sues him after he has an NFL salary, there will be a LOT of pressure on him to settle because he'll want to avoid the public trial, which could include introducing evidence previously undisclosed to the public. Plus his roommate would almost certainly get subpoenaed and might have some very interesting things to say on the stand.
I do understand that she can later file a civil lawsuit. I also understand that the burden of proof is generally lower, but this situation is unprecedented.

Normally the accused will go directly from the accusation to the civil suit. Waiting for Jameis to hit a payday will only cast doubt on the accusers intent. Also, I see no reason for his roommate to change anything he said previously.

As for the OJ case there was much more evidence and it was actually investigated properly. This is just a he said she said case with the evidence leaning in the favor of consensual sex towards the defendant, or at least that's what Meggs found.
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Unfortunately, it resurfaced when he has no money. She might be able to get some money from the Florida police department though.
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Pretty sure this falls under the freedom of information act. Also the same reason they had to release the tapes from the Sandy Hook 911 calls from last year.
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Way too many scumbags on this planet to blame this on the girl but isn't it common knowledge among young women that you NEVER go anywhere alone? EVER.

Buddy system ladies. Never take your eye off your drink either. I think they should start putting lids on women's drinks at bars.
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Pretty sure this falls under the freedom of information act. Also the same reason they had to release the tapes from the Sandy Hook 911 calls from last year.

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So the girl was too drunk to stop and couldn't take off her clothes? But after it was over you magically could walk and get on a SCOOTER with two wheels and hold on to someone and be T-totally wasted and stay on? Yeah right!
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Oh so you get raped but get a ride back on a scooter and get dropped off? SMH
Sounds like she is saying something was put into her drink or she was too drunk to know what was going on.

It's not uncommon for rape victims to go into shock after either. So that doesn't real raise a concern to me.
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