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Old 12-28-2013, 02:07 PM   #1
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Will Thompson be challenged by Mitch or Nosovitch for the starting job next year?
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there should be a seperate thread predicting how many times this type of thread pops up before next august.
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there should be a seperate thread predicting how many times this type of thread pops up before next august.

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Yes.

I am interested in hearing about all three this spring.

Connor Mitch will be somewhere in there if he can run those read plays as well as Shaw did. I don't know how his arm compares to Dylan or Brendan though
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I am interested in hearing about all three this spring.

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We wont be running those read option plays nearly as much now. Plus it will be hard to find someone who can run them as well as Shaw. It fit his skillset to a T.

Mitch has the strongest arm on the team. No questions asked. This kids arm is NFL ready now. Its on a different level than weve had here since Ellis. Mitch's skillset has him more as a pocket passing QB. But hes said if hes called to run he will.

Once your at this level you arent going to gain arm strength. Because realy, its not how strong you are. You get "arm strength" from your complete throwing motion. You get a lot of velocity from your feet and lower body. That then goes through your shoulder and finally your arm and wrist. All of that at the right combination will give a qb elite velocity. And if hes missing any one part of it, it will cause him to lose some. Ever wonder why guys like Elway and Marino could throw so much harder than anyone else? What their foot plant into the ground. And their mid section. Watch how much force they get into it.

Mitch is similar. He does a lot of things right. Both if you notice QBs that can throw with a lot of velocity in the NFL. Were doing it in college too. Its not something you can really learn. Its how you throw as you grow up. But once your to this point its to late.
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We wont be running those read option plays nearly as much now. Plus it will be hard to find someone who can run them as well as Shaw. It fit his skillset to a T.

Mitch has the strongest arm on the team. No questions asked. This kids arm is NFL ready now. Its on a different level than weve had here since Ellis. Mitch's skillset has him more as a pocket passing QB. But hes said if hes called to run he will.

Once your at this level you arent going to gain arm strength. Because realy, its not how strong you are. You get "arm strength" from your complete throwing motion. You get a lot of velocity from your feet and lower body. That then goes through your shoulder and finally your arm and wrist. All of that at the right combination will give a qb elite velocity. And if hes missing any one part of it, it will cause him to lose some. Ever wonder why guys like Elway and Marino could throw so much harder than anyone else? What their foot plant into the ground. And their mid section. Watch how much force they get into it.

Mitch is similar. He does a lot of things right. Both if you notice QBs that can throw with a lot of velocity in the NFL. Were doing it in college too. Its not something you can really learn. Its how you throw as you grow up. But once your to this point its to late.
I stopped reading at Connor Mitch is NFL ready now.
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We wont be running those read option plays nearly as much now. Plus it will be hard to find someone who can run them as well as Shaw. It fit his skillset to a T.

Mitch has the strongest arm on the team. No questions asked. This kids arm is NFL ready now. Its on a different level than weve had here since Ellis. Mitch's skillset has him more as a pocket passing QB. But hes said if hes called to run he will.

Once your at this level you arent going to gain arm strength. Because realy, its not how strong you are. You get "arm strength" from your complete throwing motion. You get a lot of velocity from your feet and lower body. That then goes through your shoulder and finally your arm and wrist. All of that at the right combination will give a qb elite velocity. And if hes missing any one part of it, it will cause him to lose some. Ever wonder why guys like Elway and Marino could throw so much harder than anyone else? What their foot plant into the ground. And their mid section. Watch how much force they get into it.

Mitch is similar. He does a lot of things right. Both if you notice QBs that can throw with a lot of velocity in the NFL. Were doing it in college too. Its not something you can really learn. Its how you throw as you grow up. But once your to this point its to late.
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I stopped reading at Connor Mitch is NFL ready now.
Did i say that?

Its almost impossible to have a conversation on the internet. Guess people just arent smart enough to comprehend.
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I stopped reading at Connor Mitch is NFL ready now.

Where did he say that? He said an NFL ready arm. Thats in terms of strength. Everything swagga said is true. QB arm strength is thru the throwing motion and foot work. Same reason a pitcher kicks his leg. Pretty simple.
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Where did he say that? He said an NFL ready arm. Thats in terms of strength. Everything swagga said is true. QB arm strength is thru the throwing motion and foot work. Same reason a pitcher kicks his leg. Pretty simple.
Connor Mitch and NFL ready don't belong in the same sentence right now, no matter which part of him you are talking about. Kinda helps that the only people who are saying so are on message boards. No coaches, no scouts...just Swagga and you so far. There are 32 starters in the NFL, some teams don't even carry 3rd string qbs but let's just play along and say they do. That is 96 NFL arms, so you believe he is in that conversation right now?

Hey, maybe I am wrong, just think its way to early to say that.
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We wont be running those read option plays nearly as much now. Plus it will be hard to find someone who can run them as well as Shaw. It fit his skillset to a T.

Mitch has the strongest arm on the team. No questions asked. This kids arm is NFL ready now. Its on a different level than weve had here since Ellis. Mitch's skillset has him more as a pocket passing QB. But hes said if hes called to run he will.

Once your at this level you arent going to gain arm strength. Because realy, its not how strong you are. You get "arm strength" from your complete throwing motion. You get a lot of velocity from your feet and lower body. That then goes through your shoulder and finally your arm and wrist. All of that at the right combination will give a qb elite velocity. And if hes missing any one part of it, it will cause him to lose some. Ever wonder why guys like Elway and Marino could throw so much harder than anyone else? What their foot plant into the ground. And their mid section. Watch how much force they get into it.

Mitch is similar. He does a lot of things right. Both if you notice QBs that can throw with a lot of velocity in the NFL. Were doing it in college too. Its not something you can really learn. Its how you throw as you grow up. But once your to this point its to late.

Mr. Mitch, im excited as anyone to see your son play! But please sir, until he has at least played 1 game in the SEC can we hold off on the Elway/Marino comparisons?
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Mr. Mitch, im excited as anyone to see your son play! But please sir, until he has at least played 1 game in the SEC can we hold off on the Elway/Marino comparisons?
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Love the pissing matches that are going on in this thread. What I can say after watching the spring game this past year is that Mitch does have the best throwing motion of the bunch. It is compact and powerful with a quick release. But those are the tangible qualities anyone can see. The intangible will have to be proven on the field. My advice to anyone who really wants to know how they measure up to one another before the beginning of next season would be to attend the spring game. In the end Spurrier will probably choose between Thompson and Mitch for the #2 spot with Nosovitch as the starter. This is assuming that Nosovitch closes the gap between Thompson and himself by next spring.
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You get a lot of velocity from your feet and lower body.

All of that at the right combination will give a qb elite velocity.

Both if you notice QBs that can throw with a lot of velocity in the NFL.

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We wont be running those read option plays nearly as much now. Plus it will be hard to find someone who can run them as well as Shaw. It fit his skillset to a T.

Mitch has the strongest arm on the team. No questions asked. This kids arm is NFL ready now. Its on a different level than weve had here since Ellis. Mitch's skillset has him more as a pocket passing QB. But hes said if hes called to run he will.

Once your at this level you arent going to gain arm strength. Because realy, its not how strong you are. You get "arm strength" from your complete throwing motion. You get a lot of velocity from your feet and lower body. That then goes through your shoulder and finally your arm and wrist. All of that at the right combination will give a qb elite velocity. And if hes missing any one part of it, it will cause him to lose some. Ever wonder why guys like Elway and Marino could throw so much harder than anyone else? What their foot plant into the ground. And their mid section. Watch how much force they get into it.

Mitch is similar. He does a lot of things right. Both if you notice QBs that can throw with a lot of velocity in the NFL. Were doing it in college too. Its not something you can really learn. Its how you throw as you grow up. But once your to this point its to late.
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Ellis had a cannon. Ive seen him throw many darts into the other teans hands. He had a pretty serious ankle injury. Was never the same again. Thats where you get a lot of velocity from.

So try again.

Also i didn't compare their arm strength. I said since ellis. Really havent had many strong armed QBs here. Mitchell could put some heat on it. Garcia too. But i wouldnt say they had cannons. Petty? Weak arm. Tanneyhill had a weak arm too. Just knew where to put it.

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Err, we have had many QBs before and since Ellis with way better arms. Ellis put up good numbers because we ran a run and shoot and he was throwing short passes to Sterling Sharpe. Sharpe was the best receiver I have ever seen play for Carolina. He was better and faster than Sammy Watkins and had the toughness of Alshon.

Ellis holds the all time school record for interceptions by a Carolina QB. That directly correlates to 1) his inability to read defense; and 2) his soft passes. Ellis's arm was decent. For comparison purposes, his arm was not as strong as Connor Shaw, who some Clempson idiots think has a weak arm. Your credibility is being destroyed by claiming Ellis has a "cannon." Maybe in your mind as a youngster it was a cannon. Take our word for it, it was not.

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Didn't Spurrier change the offense to fit Shaw's game...thought Spurrier was the "fun and gun" type...if that's the case..doesn't that change the conversation of who plays QB other than Thompson...BTW, DT has earned the right to be called the starter for next year..it's his to lose in my opine.
No. It changed marginally when he hired Elliott as the OL coach. Elliott is an expert at the zone read as he proved while coaching at Appy State. Garcia was the starter back in those days. Garcia could actually run a pretty good zone read.

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I don't understand how anyone can say that this job is Thompson's to lose like he is so much more advanced than any other QB we have. There is still a spring and summer before our first game next year.


Everyone likes to point out Connor Mitch's arm strength, and how Spurrier recruited him, and all this blah blah. And everyone likes to point out Dylan Thompson's performance against Clemson, and how Dylan Thompson has been the back up for 2 years now, and how he was promised to play this year, and blah blah blah. But people forget that Nosovitch was a PARADE All-American.

And PARADE All-American isn't a joke. Most of the top college football players in the country were PARADE All-Americans.

And I'm all for heart-warming stories, but I'd prefer to win. So you put the best QB in for the job, not necessarily always the fan favorite. I love Dylan Thompson and everything he's done for the program, but if he's not the best, then oh well. If he is the best, then great.
Because SOS said it at one of his recent press conferences. I think it was that thorn Kendall that asked . . . always trying to start a controversy and create division ... and Spurrier scoffed at the notion anyone besides Thompson was a front runner for the starting job.
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Because SOS said it at one of his recent press conferences. I think it was that thorn Kendall that asked . . . always trying to start a controversy and create division ... and Spurrier scoffed at the notion anyone besides Thompson was a front runner for the starting job.
Front runner and guaranteed starter doesn't mean the same thing. I've said in many of post that I agree that Dylan is the man, right now, but there still over 200 days which include winter workouts, spring ball, and summer camp before prep-week(s) for Texas A&M.

If you think Spurrier locked down the QB position without seeing the progression of Mitch or Nosovitch then your obviously Thompson-biased in my opinion. Just go back and read my post. I've never said I was cheering for anyone - but I am cheering for whomever he starts come August 28th. It would be great for Dylan to get the starters role, but it's not guaranteed.
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I think it will come down to Shaq Davidson v pharoh cooper...we will move Dylan to free safety to give tanner mcelvoy the finger!
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I would not be surprised to see CM get the nod at the #2 spot and fill the same role as DT did this year. He'll be a motivation tool for DT if DT is not playing well.
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