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Old 02-04-2014, 10:25 PM   #1
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Default Lady Gamecocks Basketball Tournament "Issue"

I'm not going to press this that much, but I think it is a shame that this team ( who is a legit top 5-10 team) will not get any consideration to host the first 2 rounds, due to political issues we have.

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Old 02-04-2014, 10:30 PM   #2
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Does that apply for basketball too? How are we able to host in baseball? I always thought pre-determined events ( bowl games) were the only ones affected.
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Does that apply for basketball too? How are we able to host in baseball? I always thought pre-determined events ( bowl games) were the only ones affected.
I'm really not sure how it goes, but I know for basketball, we will not get consideration to host ( due to the Elephant in the room)...

Right now, we are a projected 2 seed, but they have us in the West Lafayette Regional ( against #7 Purdue)... IMO, a 2 seed should not have to play a damn road game in the 2nd round of the tourney.
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I'm really not sure how it goes, but I know for basketball, we will not get consideration to host ( due to the Elephant in the room)...

Right now, we are a projected 2 seed, but they have us in the West Lafayette Regional ( against #7 Purdue)... IMO, a 2 seed should not have to play a damn road game in the 2nd round of the tourney.
The current system is a "bid" type system. Before the season, cities/schools can place a bid to host a regional and 16 are given out. Many times you will see schools that know they have legitimate chances of making the tournament place a bid to host hoping to gain a home court advantage in the tournament. One of the most extreme recent examples I can remember was #1 seed Stanford playing #16 seed Hampton in Hampton, VA a couple years back in the first round.

Even if the host school doesn't make the tournament, they will still be a host. So in your example, even if Purdue tanked to end the season and missed the tourney, West Lafayette would still host a regional. Because these sites are based on bids and not merit, South Carolina is ineligible to host based on the flag rule.

But as Luke said, they're getting rid of this system soon. Until then, our best hope is to get placed into a regional that is completely neutral court so we don't get a home court disadvantage against a lower seed.
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The current system is a "bid" type system. Before the season, cities/schools can place a bid to host a regional and 16 are given out. Many times you will see schools that know they have legitimate chances of making the tournament place a bid to host hoping to gain a home court advantage in the tournament. One of the most extreme recent examples I can remember was #1 seed Stanford playing #16 seed Hampton in Hampton, VA a couple years back in the first round.

Even if the host school doesn't make the tournament, they will still be a host. So in your example, even if Purdue tanked to end the season and missed the tourney, West Lafayette would still host a regional. Because these sites are based on bids and not merit, South Carolina is ineligible to host based on the flag rule.

But as Luke said, they're getting rid of this system soon. Until then, our best hope is to get placed into a regional that is completely neutral court so we don't get a home court disadvantage against a lower seed.
It's ridiculous if you can't have the higher seeds playing in their own buildings than you don't need to put ANY teams in their own buildings. Why they heck should Purdue be rewarded like that?
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I'm not going to press this that much, but I think it is a shame that this team ( who is a legit top 5-10 team) will not get any consideration to host the first 2 rounds, due to political issues we have.

Thoughts? Am I the only one pissed off about it?
WE don't have issues, the NCAA has political issues!
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:43 PM   #7
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For the zillionth time, starting next year we will be able to host because host sites will be awarded based on merit just like baseball. It's unfortunate for this season, but going forward it is a non issue
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This is the first I have heard of this. (Sorry, I missed the 999th Billion time before)... I'm glad they will award hosting spots due to merit.
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Old 02-04-2014, 11:15 PM   #9
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This is the first I have heard of this. (Sorry, I missed the 999th Billion time before)... I'm glad they will award hosting spots due to merit.
It's fine. The new system will be way better for us, but I wish they would just put them on neutral courts. I know they do it this way for attendance and to save money but its just not fair for the lower seeds
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Gotta agree with the NCAA here. Time to put on your big boy pants and make the needed changes SC i.e. the "elephant in the room". It's 2014.
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That elephant has nothing to do with college athletics and our universities are being penalized over something they have zero control over.

As usual the NCAA is overstepping it's bounds and bringing politics into the mix.
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I'm no lawyer but, it seems our rights have been violated by the NCAA allowing this.
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It sure would be nice if I could get access to the PF so I could answer this thread. Apparently the PF mod is asleep at the wheel.
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Also, the change for next year to merit based versus predetermined bids was up for a vote. It's not a guarantee that it will change to merit based, although it is likely.
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maybe then we will bid on a BCS game....
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The flag issue will be a contributing factor in Staley leaving.
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No it won't. With the tournament moving to merit based hosting next season, the flag will have absolutely zero impact on her job. Do you see the recruiting classes she is putting together? She is building a monster program at SC, so she won't leave SC any time soon (I hope).

If the flag was going to drive her out of Columbia, it would have been last year when she flirted with Ohio State.
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You didnt read this thread at all. Starting NEXT YEAR IT WILL NOT MATTER.

WE CAN HOST STARTING NEXT YEAR.

^^^^READ THIS^^^^
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I think it needs to come down.
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