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Old 03-17-2014, 01:15 AM   #1
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I just watched the 2nd episode of Cosmos on Fox with Neil Degrass Tyson, and could not help but feel a little blown away by the necessity to throw GOD under the bus here. Is it not ok to believe in both God and Science? I am one that believes in both with sincerity.

With that said, I do enjoy the show, and I hope reality shows are soon replaced with educational ones such as this.
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I watched the first episode.. and while I wished it would have not been so definitely biased towards science (IMO believing in science or even extraterrestrials doesn't mean you can't believe in God) that wasn't the reason I didn't like the show.

It wasn't educational enough for me. I knew most if not all of the stuff that was discussed. Wished it would have gone deeper than what I learned in Astronomy 101. Also did not like the cartoon part, felt it went on way too long.

Wanted it to be more like a Planet Earth with Space. Turned out to be more of a soapbox for Scientology.
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I watched the first episode.. and while I wished it would have not been so definitely biased towards science (IMO believing in science or even extraterrestrials doesn't mean you can't believe in God) that wasn't the reason I didn't like the show.

It wasn't educational enough for me. I knew most if not all of the stuff that was discussed. Wished it would have gone deeper than what I learned in Astronomy 101. Also did not like the cartoon part, felt it went on way too long.

Wanted it to be more like a Planet Earth with Space. Turned out to be more of a soapbox for Scientology.

Scientology?

Um, no. Try again.
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I watched the first episode.. and while I wished it would have not been so definitely biased towards science (IMO believing in science or even extraterrestrials doesn't mean you can't believe in God) that wasn't the reason I didn't like the show.

It wasn't educational enough for me. I knew most if not all of the stuff that was discussed. Wished it would have gone deeper than what I learned in Astronomy 101. Also did not like the cartoon part, felt it went on way too long.

Wanted it to be more like a Planet Earth with Space. Turned out to be more of a soapbox for Scientology.
Dou you actually know what Scientology believes?
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I just watched the 2nd episode of Cosmos on Fox with Neil Degrass Tyson, and could not help but feel a little blown away by the necessity to throw GOD under the bus here. Is it not ok to believe in both God and Science? I am one that believes in both with sincerity.



With that said, I do enjoy the show, and I hope reality shows are soon replaced with educational ones such as this.

I watched most of the second episode and therefore i might have missed it- but how did they throw God under the bus?

Remember- a show like this is not going to specifically "credit" God with something. That is not the intent of the show. It is a purely science based show. So, unless it can be observed (or to the best of science's ability) then it's not going to be referenced.
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I watched most of the second episode and therefore i might have missed it- but how did they throw God under the bus?

Remember- a show like this is not going to specifically "credit" God with something. That is not the intent of the show. It is a purely science based show. So, unless it can be observed (or to the best of science's ability) then it's not going to be referenced.
Science based shows HAVE to leave out God? I must have missed that...and if that is what it means, then that makes zero sense
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What purpose would inserting God have for a show like Cosmos?
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What purpose would inserting God have for a show like Cosmos?
You missed the point. Slamming ID is just as senseless as slamming old earth theory. Both can be harmonized and make sense. It's the people on the extreme sides that are the problem.
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You missed the point. Slamming ID is just as senseless as slamming old earth theory. Both can be harmonized and make sense. It's the people on the extreme sides that are the problem.
Intelligent design wasn't "slammed".
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You missed the point. Slamming ID is just as senseless as slamming old earth theory. Both can be harmonized and make sense. It's the people on the extreme sides that are the problem.

My point was I didnt hear anything "slammed"
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Well, seeing how it's about science, and not religion, you can understand why they talked about science.
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Well, seeing how it's about science, and not religion, you can understand why they talked about science.
Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't it be both?
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Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't it be both?
You can personally believe that the universe had a Creator and believe that he/she/it used or didn't use evolution or the big bang. I for one have no problem accepting the scientific answers and reconciling them with my belief in God; however, creationism is not a part science.

I find it a little too much for people to expect that science will deal with the issue of God. Science is an academic discpline that tries to learn about the natural world through observation and experimentation. Religion is faith based. It isn't that science ignores God, but rather God is outside the realm of science. Science can't observe or run experiments on God using the scientific method.

Would you be upset if your pastor preached a sermon about 1st Genesis and the power of God to will the universe into being and did not give equal consideration to scientific theories that might suggest otherwise? Are you upset when you don't hear science preached from the pulpit?
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Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't it be both?

Because Cosmos is a remake of Carl Sagan's original, and they didn't want to make it something it was not?
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I watched most of the second episode and therefore i might have missed it- but how did they throw God under the bus?

Remember- a show like this is not going to specifically "credit" God with something. That is not the intent of the show. It is a purely science based show. So, unless it can be observed (or to the best of science's ability) then it's not going to be referenced.
They basically argued against a form of intelligent design the entire episode. Instead of strictly talking about our DNA and how we are all similar to every living organism on Earth, they went out of the way to argue against intelligent design.
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they went out of the way to argue against intelligent design.
The purpose of the show is to present what scientists have spent centuries working to discover and educating people about said discoveries. If it disagrees with biblical creation or intelligent design in general.....oh well....
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The purpose of the show is to present what scientists have spent centuries working to discover and educating people about said discoveries. If it disagrees with biblical creation or intelligent design in general.....oh well....
Your not getting what I am saying, they went out of the way to do so. Picking an agenda, and if Seth McFarlane is producing this show, then I can see why they are doing so.
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The purpose of the show is to present what scientists have spent centuries working to discover and educating people about said discoveries. If it disagrees with biblical creation or intelligent design in general.....oh well....
This.


Only problem I has with it was their story about Bruno. Bruno was executed for other things, though to be fair he shouldn't of been executed anyway. Diggers was the real enlightened astronomer who helped expand cosmic thinking.
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They basically argued against a form of intelligent design the entire episode. Instead of strictly talking about our DNA and how we are all similar to every living organism on Earth, they went out of the way to argue against intelligent design.

That's not the way I perceived it.
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Are they obligated to mention religion?

A show with Neil DeGrasse Tyson is going to be strictly centered on scientific discovery.

My question is, what would you have the show say?
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