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Old 04-24-2014, 02:19 PM   #1
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The Tennessee bowl thread got me thinking, which hire was worse in the long run the South Carolina Fat Brad hire or the Tennessee Lame Kitten hire? I know we didn't have as far to fall as Tennessee at the time but which do you folks think is worse in hindsight?
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The Tennessee bowl thread got me thinking, which hire was worse in the long run the South Carolina Fat Brad hire or the Tennessee Lame Kitten hire? I know we didn't have as far to fall as Tennessee at the time but which do you folks think is worse in hindsight?
Who was the coach that got our first ever Bowl win? I can't seem to recall, maybe you know? Thanks in advance for the feedback!

BTW....Kiffen!!!!
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Who was the coach that got our first ever Bowl win? I can't seem to recall, maybe you know? Thanks in advance for the feedback!

BTW....Kiffen!!!!
Odd question.
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Who was the coach that got our first ever Bowl win? I can't seem to recall, maybe you know? Thanks in advance for the feedback!

BTW....Kiffen!!!!
The reason for the comparison is the relative time it took us to rebuild & actually get much better & the projected time it will take Tennessee to do the same. We had the 0-21 debacle with Scott & a depletion of talent that Holtz began to rebuild & ultimately what SOS has been able to do.
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Who was the coach that got our first ever Bowl win? I can't seem to recall, maybe you know? Thanks in advance for the feedback!

BTW....Kiffen!!!!
He did it with Sparky Woods team. It was all steadily downhill from there, culminating in so much utter destruction that not even Lou Holtz could fix it.

Once Brad Scott left, he did the best he could to further undermine us at all turns, including after a Holtz team beat Clemson, interviewing a current GA at Carolina for a GA position at Clemson and having the GA describe the keys our defense used to shut down the Clemson offense. He stole our playbook and recruiting book when he left to coach under Bowden. He trashed our university vehicle and McGee had to send someone up to Clemson to retrieve it. He was terrible, way beyond Kiffen, who at least had some charisma.
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Brad Scott.
UT is already showing signs of recovery before Jones' second season (got a lot of good, young pieces to build around).

One could argue we recovered by our second year, but UT didn't go 0-21...they kicked Kiffin to the curb well before the program trainwrecked.
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UT is already showing signs of recovery before Jones' second season (got a lot of good, young pieces to build around).

One could argue we recovered by our second year, but UT didn't go 0-21...they kicked Kiffin to the curb well before the program trainwrecked.
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UT is already showing signs of recovery before Jones' second season (got a lot of good, young pieces to build around).

One could argue we recovered by our second year, but UT didn't go 0-21...they kicked Kiffin to the curb well before the program trainwrecked.
They were in love with him. He left them high and dry after the relationship was consummated.
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The Kiffin fiasco was actually something that appeared to work in UT's favor over time. Look at them in 2 years.
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The Kiffin fiasco was actually something that appeared to work in UT's favor over time. Look at them in 2 years.
See I agree, I think the Brad Scott hire hurt us worse as it took us more time to recuperate than it appears it is taking Tennessee, but when you pair the Kiffen hire with the Dooley hire and the fact that UT is likely still at least two more years if not one more hire away from recovering I start to waver.

There is also the bad money management issue at Tennessee.
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Kiffen, Brad was actually pretty good at first. Kiffen loses everywhere he goes. He just didn't stay in Tennessee long enough to get run out, he dumped his mess on Dooley and Jones.
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Kiffen, Brad was actually pretty good at first. Kiffen loses everywhere he goes. He just didn't stay in Tennessee long enough to get run out, he dumped his mess on Dooley and Jones.

I'm with you...Kiffen dumped his mess...on UT, they did't dump him. Brad won the Carquest bowl back in '95, something we ain't never did. True, the 0-21 stint started with Brad but he did accomplish a positive "first time feat" during his tenure.
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Kiffen, Brad was actually pretty good at first. Kiffen loses everywhere he goes. He just didn't stay in Tennessee long enough to get run out, he dumped his mess on Dooley and Jones.
Seems I'm agreeing a lot with R00ster these days. Second childhood? Senility?? Better get myself checked out...LOL.
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See, I was going to go all the way back to Sparky. The reason I didn't is due to Joining the SEC under his watch, that would have been a great task for just about any mid level coach to conquer. Scott depleted the talent and left the cupboard really bare for Holtz.
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Tennessee wasn't bad under Lane , heck how could they be he never even unpacked his suitcase.
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Tennessee wasn't bad under Lane , heck how could they be he never even unpacked his suitcase.
They weren't "bad" under Lane because it's Tennessee and Rome isn't destroyed in day. Also, he at least brought his dad with him. However, I think the seeds of destruction were already sowed. And then they hired another sorry coach who took all the blame, but with either Kiffin or Dooley, the downfall was inevitable.

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I guess one of the things I was thinking was actually about the Hire itself, maybe not even the impact on the team........ given the option of only these two coaches with past history as a gauge, who would you hire today?
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