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Old 04-28-2014, 08:29 AM   #1
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I saw some pretty critical comments RE: Pankake yesterday in the game thread, particularly that he doesn't show up to play in SEC games. I thought he had had a pretty good season thus far, so I went back and checked his stats. If I added up everything right, he's batting .284 in SEC play with 8 walks to go along with 27 combined runs/RBI.

Coming into the Auburn series, which was about the time he injured his hamstring, he was batting .356 in SEC play with 7 walks and 24 runs/RBI (which includes going 14 for 36, .389, against Florida, Ole Miss and Kentucky). His only bad weekend during the first five series was against Arkansas, in which he went 1 for 10 (although he didn't fare any worse than the rest of the team, which managed 3 runs all weekend). Since the injury, he has been a combined 2 for 22 against Auburn and 'Bama, but I would imagine that a bad hamstring can alter a batter's swing pretty substantially.

Anyway, it seems interesting that Pankake always seems to be "that guy" who can be a lightning rod when things aren't running perfectly smoothly for the team. He's certainly not perfect at the plate, but it seems like there has been plenty of blame to go around when the team has slumped offensively.
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:49 AM   #2
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Pretty obvious he is banged up right now. Taking that ball off his foot didn't help either.
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I thought he looked like a natural in left field, played very comfortable and smooth. See that play off the wall ?, made a great throw.
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I saw some pretty critical comments RE: Pankake yesterday in the game thread, particularly that he doesn't show up to play in SEC games. I thought he had had a pretty good season thus far, so I went back and checked his stats. If I added up everything right, he's batting .284 in SEC play with 8 walks to go along with 27 combined runs/RBI.

Coming into the Auburn series, which was about the time he injured his hamstring, he was batting .356 in SEC play with 7 walks and 24 runs/RBI (which includes going 14 for 36, .389, against Florida, Ole Miss and Kentucky). His only bad weekend during the first five series was against Arkansas, in which he went 1 for 10 (although he didn't fare any worse than the rest of the team, which managed 3 runs all weekend). Since the injury, he has been a combined 2 for 22 against Auburn and 'Bama, but I would imagine that a bad hamstring can alter a batter's swing pretty substantially.

Anyway, it seems interesting that Pankake always seems to be "that guy" who can be a lightning rod when things aren't running perfectly smoothly for the team. He's certainly not perfect at the plate, but it seems like there has been plenty of blame to go around when the team has slumped offensively.
He always gets my blame on fielding, like i think when healthy he needs to be in left but i dont bash him on here, he is important to our success and definitely key at the plate
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In pressure situations, Pankake has not delivered for the most part in his career here. Is he a good player? Of course, but when we have runners in scoring position, and when we need a big hit, I really hope to see Greiner, Martin, or even Cone up there in that situation.
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In pressure situations, Pankake has not delivered for the most part in his career here. Is he a good player? Of course, but when we have runners in scoring position, and when we need a big hit, I really hope to see Greiner, Martin, or even Cone up there in that situation.
Even Cone? Someone's drinking the cool-aid.

Does anyone remember Kyle Martin before this year? He couldnt get on the field. How about Greiner? I remember a LOT of people on here used to call him "Streiker" because he couldn't hit ANYTHING off speed.

The real truth of it is: most everyone who talks the loudest on here has an incredibly short memory. It's "What have you don't for me lately" all over the Sarge. Pankake has been elite since he got here. He may not belong in the same conversation as JBJ or Christain Walker, but he's definitely in the next category.

He is easily the best pure hitter on the team. He has power to all fields, sprays the ball relatively evenly, and makes good contact. Greiner has been a LOT more clutch this year, but this is he first year he has had a truly superlative hitting season.
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Even Cone? Someone's drinking the cool-aid.

Does anyone remember Kyle Martin before this year? He couldnt get on the field. How about Greiner? I remember a LOT of people on here used to call him "Streiker" because he couldn't hit ANYTHING off speed.

The real truth of it is: most everyone who talks the loudest on here has an incredibly short memory. It's "What have you don't for me lately" all over the Sarge. Pankake has been elite since he got here. He may not belong in the same conversation as JBJ or Christain Walker, but he's definitely in the next category.

He is easily the best pure hitter on the team. He has power to all fields, sprays the ball relatively evenly, and makes good contact. Greiner has been a LOT more clutch this year, but this is he first year he has had a truly superlative hitting season.
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Even Cone? Someone's drinking the cool-aid.

Does anyone remember Kyle Martin before this year? He couldnt get on the field. How about Greiner? I remember a LOT of people on here used to call him "Streiker" because he couldn't hit ANYTHING off speed.

The real truth of it is: most everyone who talks the loudest on here has an incredibly short memory. It's "What have you don't for me lately" all over the Sarge. Pankake has been elite since he got here. He may not belong in the same conversation as JBJ or Christain Walker, but he's definitely in the next category.

He is easily the best pure hitter on the team. He has power to all fields, sprays the ball relatively evenly, and makes good contact. Greiner has been a LOT more clutch this year, but this is he first year he has had a truly superlative hitting season.
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Even Cone? Someone's drinking the cool-aid.

Does anyone remember Kyle Martin before this year? He couldnt get on the field. How about Greiner? I remember a LOT of people on here used to call him "Streiker" because he couldn't hit ANYTHING off speed.

The real truth of it is: most everyone who talks the loudest on here has an incredibly short memory. It's "What have you don't for me lately" all over the Sarge. Pankake has been elite since he got here. He may not belong in the same conversation as JBJ or Christain Walker, but he's definitely in the next category.

He is easily the best pure hitter on the team. He has power to all fields, sprays the ball relatively evenly, and makes good contact. Greiner has been a LOT more clutch this year, but this is he first year he has had a truly superlative hitting season.
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Even Cone? Someone's drinking the cool-aid.

Does anyone remember Kyle Martin before this year? He couldnt get on the field. How about Greiner? I remember a LOT of people on here used to call him "Streiker" because he couldn't hit ANYTHING off speed.

The real truth of it is: most everyone who talks the loudest on here has an incredibly short memory. It's "What have you don't for me lately" all over the Sarge. Pankake has been elite since he got here. He may not belong in the same conversation as JBJ or Christain Walker, but he's definitely in the next category.

He is easily the best pure hitter on the team. He has power to all fields, sprays the ball relatively evenly, and makes good contact. Greiner has been a LOT more clutch this year, but this is he first year he has had a truly superlative hitting season.
I agreed until you said he is the best pure hitter on the team. I would say Schrock is. Wish he would make it back.
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Even Cone? Someone's drinking the cool-aid.

Does anyone remember Kyle Martin before this year? He couldnt get on the field. How about Greiner? I remember a LOT of people on here used to call him "Streiker" because he couldn't hit ANYTHING off speed.

The real truth of it is: most everyone who talks the loudest on here has an incredibly short memory. It's "What have you don't for me lately" all over the Sarge. Pankake has been elite since he got here. He may not belong in the same conversation as JBJ or Christain Walker, but he's definitely in the next category.

He is easily the best pure hitter on the team. He has power to all fields, sprays the ball relatively evenly, and makes good contact. Greiner has been a LOT more clutch this year, but this is he first year he has had a truly superlative hitting season.
I agree he is the best pure hitter on the team, but his fielding leaves a lot to be desired. This year has been better with him at third and left though
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Old 04-29-2014, 08:34 AM   #12
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Even Cone? Someone's drinking the cool-aid.

Does anyone remember Kyle Martin before this year? He couldnt get on the field. How about Greiner? I remember a LOT of people on here used to call him "Streiker" because he couldn't hit ANYTHING off speed.

The real truth of it is: most everyone who talks the loudest on here has an incredibly short memory. It's "What have you don't for me lately" all over the Sarge. Pankake has been elite since he got here. He may not belong in the same conversation as JBJ or Christain Walker, but he's definitely in the next category.

He is easily the best pure hitter on the team. He has power to all fields, sprays the ball relatively evenly, and makes good contact. Greiner has been a LOT more clutch this year, but this is he first year he has had a truly superlative hitting season.
What has Cone done in the past 2 series... @Auburn. 9th inning RBI double down the RF line to tie the game, and Carolina won (broke the 5 game losing streak. Alabama(Friday).... 3 RBI Triple down the RF line to put Carolina up 6-2. Alabama(Sunday)... 2 out (2 strike) single that scored 2 runs that put Carolina up 5-3. He did all of that in the past 8 days.. Kool-Aid? I think not.
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What has Cone done in the past 2 series... @Auburn. 9th inning RBI double down the RF line to tie the game, and Carolina won (broke the 5 game losing streak. Alabama(Friday).... 3 RBI Triple down the RF line to put Carolina up 6-2. Alabama(Sunday)... 2 out (2 strike) single that scored 2 runs that put Carolina up 5-3. He did all of that in the past 8 days.. Kool-Aid? I think not.
Okay and Pankake has not had a good a stretch like that numerous times? It's true, it's a very "what have you don for me lately attitude," which is reasonable but only to a point. Cone wasn't doing anything before Auburn and he will probably be cold again soon and Pankake will heat up again at some point and make big plays for him. Even if he is not All-American caliber we still need him. And we talking all year about Martin's hair and beard causing him to slump. The team bought a bunny and they started playing better. Baseball is a game of streaks. You always have to keep that in mind eventhough the fans generally don't have the patience to wait for the slumps to end.
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Okay and Pankake has not had a good a stretch like that numerous times?
In our first three SEC series when he was healthy (Ole Miss, Kentucky and UT), he batted .432 (16 of 37) and accounted for half of our runs (i.e., he either scored or drove in 21 of our 42 runs over those three series). He can take some bad hacks at times, but he has had good performances against a number of quality teams. Hopefully, he'll be healthy come regional time.
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Okay and Pankake has not had a good a stretch like that numerous times? It's true, it's a very "what have you don for me lately attitude," which is reasonable but only to a point. Cone wasn't doing anything before Auburn and he will probably be cold again soon and Pankake will heat up again at some point and make big plays for him. Even if he is not All-American caliber we still need him. And we talking all year about Martin's hair and beard causing him to slump. The team bought a bunny and they started playing better. Baseball is a game of streaks. You always have to keep that in mind eventhough the fans generally don't have the patience to wait for the slumps to end.
In clutch situations, Pankake has not been as $$$ as some of the other guys.. IM NOT SAYING HE IS NOT A GOOD PLAYER, but when the game is on the line... I want GG or Martin up there (over Pankake)
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For Joey's well-being, I sincerely hope he isn't too sensitive because you're right, Ph/JDC. Truth is, if we can ever get healthy again, JP 's the one I wanna see in the box when it's time to kick a little ass & take a few names.

Guess we do use him as our lightening rod, but we also know he's our maple syrup.
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He is playing fine, but he is not playing like the All-American he was hyped to be. And when he starts slumping when need him to step up most fans are going to grumble. It's not like he is the only player getting grumbles.
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I'm one of those people who complain about him a lot. Make no mistake about it, he's one of the top 2-3 players on the team. But there's a reason why he get's singled out more often than others. It's because most of us see the same thing when he struggles. I still support him though and want him to succeed.
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I would just like to see him moved out of the 3 spot. I liked Greiner in the 3 hole, and Pankake batting 6th or so.
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