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Old 04-30-2014, 03:53 PM   #1
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Saw 2 of these bastards in my neighborhood pond today. Ugh!
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Na, probably a rat snake. Trust me, I'm with DNR.
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Na, probably a rat snake. Trust me, I'm with DNR.
Lol. I see what you did there.
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Default Re: Damn a slimy Cottonmouth Snake!

These were Cottons .. Damn near positive, anyway... Can someone post a pic of one of these things?
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These were Cottons .. Damn near positive, anyway... Can someone post a pic of one of these things?
Na, don't let your eyes fool you. Those were rats snakes, common. Trust me, I'm with DNR.
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Trust him dude...it's a rat snake.
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Can someone post a pic? I usually go fishing with the kids out there...
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Can someone post a pic? I usually go fishing with the kids out there...


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Can someone post a pic? I usually go fishing with the kids out there...
Cottonmouths are hard to identify correctly unless you ABSOLUTELY
know what you're looking for unless you get close enough to them to
see the eyes and heat pits. ... from a distance they could be a Brown
Watersnake. They mimic Cottonmouths and the pattern is almost identical.
Also, if you get close enough, the Cottonmouth will almost always curl up
and open it's mouth and show the white mouth without striking to warn
preditors to back off.

I'll see if I can find a good picture or two
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Default Re: Damn a slimy Cottonmouth Snake!

According to what part of the souteast you are in, the color of a
Water moccasin will vary from light brown with the pattern VERY
visible, to very dark brown to almost Black with the pattern hard to see.

This is generally what Cottonmouths will look like around the Midlands



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This is a Brown Watersnake... Very common in the State of SC
and often mistaken for a Water Moccasin



Brown watersnakes will flatten their head and neck when frightened
or startled and they are very aggresive snakes. They can look
almost identical to the Cottonmouth when angry. ... the one very
noticable difference from a distance is there is a large band that will
extend from the Cottonmouth's eyes, back towards the venom gands.

ALSO,
there are two or three other common watersnakes that have similar
markings, only broken patterns...if someone is frightened of snakes
it's hard to distinguish them though without getting closer to the snake.
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Here's a picture showing the wide dark band from the eyes back
down it's head. .. Watersnakes don't have that pattern on the
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Default Re: Damn a slimy Cottonmouth Snake!

Okay, these 2 were not Cottonmouths... they almost had like a diamond pattern on its back... very pretty snake, but not sure what the hell it is...


I saw these 2 here in my subdivision..
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Okay, these 2 were not Cottonmouths... they almost had like a diamond pattern on its back... very pretty snake, but not sure what the hell it is...


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Rat snake, I'm with DNR.
Aight... Ill believe ya... hell, I don't know much about these damn things... I don't like!
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12 gauge; I'm from buckshot.

yeah, yeah, I know- not really. Wifey loves snakes
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Okay, these 2 were not Cottonmouths... they almost had like a diamond pattern on its back... very pretty snake, but not sure what the hell it is...


I saw these 2 here in my subdivision..
Just throwing something out for you to look at...did it look like this ?




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Yes! Both looked like the top snake... Copperhead?

I went back fishing this evening, and one of the guys out there said they have had a couple of Copperheads in their yard.
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Yes! Both looked like the top snake... Copperhead?

I went back fishing this evening, and one of the guys out there said they have had a couple of Copperheads in their yard.
Both of those pictures are of Copperheads. I haven't seen a snake yet
this spring, but from what I hear around work, most people are seeing a
lot of snakes so far this year, and most of the people I talk to are seeing
a lot of copperheads while they're out working in their yards or hiking.

Most people who misidentify snakes usually claim they saw a copperhead
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Both of those pictures are of Copperheads. I haven't seen a snake yet
this spring, but from what I hear around work, most people are seeing a
lot of snakes so far this year, and most of the people I talk to are seeing
a lot of copperheads while they're out working in their yards or hiking.

Most people who misidentify snakes usually claim they saw a copperhead
for some reason or other. There are a couple of snakes that "resemble"
copperheads, but copperheads are pretty distinguishable. The wild caught
cornsnake I had for a while was going to be killed by some guys where
I work because they thought it was a copperhead. However, the guys
I have spoken to so far this year are familiar with snakes and spend a lot
of time in the outdoors and they are saying they're seeing more copperheads
this year than they usually do.
There are a lot of copperheads this year. I have seen a lot more than I usually do this time of year.
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Yes! Both looked like the top snake... Copperhead?

I went back fishing this evening, and one of the guys out there said they have had a couple of Copperheads in their yard.
Excellent. YOu went from one species of Agkistrodon to another...
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