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Old 05-28-2014, 02:13 PM   #1
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Default The UNC scheduling issues,

I'm trying to recall some facts about the rescheduling of the tarhole game from 2010. I was talking with a tarhole recently who said that our Athletic Dept isn't receptive to SC playing NC anymore in football.

From what I remember:
We scheduled a home and home series with unc for '07 and '10.
unc asked to push it back so they could play lsu in '10.
We pushed it back to '13.
Sometime in '12, Eric Hyman was approached by the unc AD to cancel the game, Hyman said no.
As part of the deal to move the game back with ESPN, we got the season opener against unc in '13 and '15.
Hyman and Tanner have asked to additionally schedule games with unc, unc has declined.

Am I missing or off on any of this?
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Am I missing or off on any of this?
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Default Re: The UNC scheduling issues,

2013 was to make up for them backing out in 2010.

We had a deal with ECU but the UNC thing changed it up. We are now playing UNC in charlotte to start the 2015 season
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2013 was to make up for them backing out in 2010.

We had a deal with ECU but the UNC thing changed it up. We are now playing UNC in charlotte to start the 2015 season
This sucks. Why play in charlotte?

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This sucks. Why play in charlotte?

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My guess is recruiting. Lots of alumni from both schools in charlotte. I hope the turnout is better than ECU in 2011 cause it sounded empty on tv
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Default Re: The UNC scheduling issues,

**** unc fans, they are the most entitled fan base in sports and theyre shit at football.
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Default Re: The UNC scheduling issues,

They are snobs that don't realize that they suck in football, and they are lucky to not have gotten the death penalty after what all the NCAA has found.
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Default Re: The UNC scheduling issues,

I would rather be stuck at the bottom of a pile of Georgia fans than walk down the street with a UNC fan. Just the worst.
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Default Re: The UNC scheduling issues,

I bet 90% of their fans don't care who they play in football. They only care about shooty-hoops anyways.
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Sometime in '12, Eric Hyman was approached by the unc AD to cancel the game, Hyman said no.
I don't think there was anything official on this. Some people speculated that UNC would just cancel because Hyman's buyout clause for UNC (his alma mater) was low and not at all a disincentive for UNC just screwing us over and cancelling the game. As it turned out, surprisingly, UNC honored their end of the home/home despite old threats that they would never visit our stadium again after we left the ACC.
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I don't think there was anything official on this. Some people speculated that UNC would just cancel because Hyman's buyout clause for UNC (his alma mater) was low and not at all a disincentive for UNC just screwing us over and cancelling the game. As it turned out, surprisingly, UNC honored their end of the home/home despite old threats that they would never visit our stadium again after we left the ACC.
UNC has been to Williams-Brice 6 times since we left the ACC in 1971. Their
fans may have said they wouldn't come to Columbia, but their AD and
admin weren't listening. Fact is, UNC's "powers that be" wanted to
continue to play South Carolina so they could beat us up and show the
nation they are the better program. The teams played intermittently from
1971 up until 1991 when we entered the SEC. There were no details
released as to why, but rumors "ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE" as
to why UNC was dropped as an OOC opponent when we joined the SEC
ran rampant.

Spurrier was the force behind getting the game with them on the schedule
in 2007. He made it clear he'd like to renew the boarder war with UNC
and thought it would be good for both states. UNC's fans and school
admin were not "all in on the deal", but the AD from UNC finally worked out
the deal to play two games. Even that was negotiated for weeks, as
UNC wanted a game at their place in Chapel Hill, and a game in Charlotte
on a neutral site...... I think that's were the talk of them not wanting to
come to Columbia ramped up. Spurrier and Hyman basically said Home and
Home first or NO DEAL, and it was finally inked with a low buyout.

There was a local Sports guy here in Columbia (Heath Kline) who said
on the air the day after the contract was signed and announced, that
UNC would not come to Columbia, and said they would make an excuse
not to show up, and/or pay the small buyout and not play here.
Couple of years later, is when UNC TRIED to drop the game when they
had the shot to play LSU in the season opener in 2010. They wanted
at that time to pay the buyout and not re-schedule. Hyman publicly
said that even though the buyout was small, he was going to see to it
that UNC honored the bargain and would eventually play it. Short time
later, they were put on the schedule to open the 2013 season.
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UNC has been to Williams-Brice 6 times since we left the ACC in 1971. Their
fans may have said they wouldn't come to Columbia, but their AD and
admin weren't listening. Fact is, UNC's "powers that be" wanted to
continue to play South Carolina so they could beat us up and show the
nation they are the better program. The teams played intermittently from
1971 up until 1991 when we entered the SEC. There were no details
released as to why, but rumors "ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE" as
to why UNC was dropped as an OOC opponent when we joined the SEC
ran rampant.

Spurrier was the force behind getting the game with them on the schedule
in 2007. He made it clear he'd like to renew the boarder war with UNC
and thought it would be good for both states. UNC's fans and school
admin were not "all in on the deal", but the AD from UNC finally worked out
the deal to play two games. Even that was negotiated for weeks, as
UNC wanted a game at their place in Chapel Hill, and a game in Charlotte
on a neutral site...... I think that's were the talk of them not wanting to
come to Columbia ramped up. Spurrier and Hyman basically said Home and
Home first or NO DEAL, and it was finally inked with a low buyout.

There was a local Sports guy here in Columbia (Heath Kline) who said
on the air the day after the contract was signed and announced, that
UNC would not come to Columbia, and said they would make an excuse
not to show up, and/or pay the small buyout and not play here.
Couple of years later, is when UNC TRIED to drop the game when they
had the shot to play LSU in the season opener in 2010. They wanted
at that time to pay the buyout and not re-schedule. Hyman publicly
said that even though the buyout was small, he was going to see to it
that UNC honored the bargain and would eventually play it. Short time
later, they were put on the schedule to open the 2013 season.
Hyman did his job in making sure that UNC showed up. I don't know how he did it with that buyout agreement.
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Hyman did his job in making sure that UNC showed up. I don't know how he did it with that buyout agreement.
Me either. I was really expecting to hear on the local news that we let them
out with paying the small buyout, or just not hearing anything at all. I was
shocked when I heard in 2011 that we were going to open the season with
UNC in 2013 ! .... I also think ESPN had some pull with that as well.
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ESPN head man is UNC grad. Hyman knew if UNC skated, he would catch hell from our fans, so UNC may have cut him a break, too.
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Default Re: The UNC scheduling issues,

Wasn't UT involved with UNC too? I thought they moved our game to play UT, then UT backed out on them. Am I right on that? Or they didn't want to move UT to play LSU, moved us then UT backed out on them.
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Wasn't UT involved with UNC too? I thought they moved our game to play UT, then UT backed out on them. Am I right on that? Or they didn't want to move UT to play LSU, moved us then UT backed out on them.
I think one of the schools wanted to play the other but other didn't (can't remember which one was which). Oddly enough, they played in the music city bowl in 2010. It was the one where the refs called the game over, then reviewed, then called it back on. Ut was winning when they first called it but UNC came back in overtime. It was the game that caused the 10 sec runoff rule
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I cant stand UNC fans. Why are they even so stuck up? Been to Chapel Hill, havent been back since.
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Default Re: The UNC scheduling issues,

I know I'm in the minority but I don't have a problem with UNC for the most part. They have their annoying/obnoxious fans, but so does every school. I find Clemson and Georgia to be worse.
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I know I'm in the minority but I don't have a problem with UNC for the most part. They have their annoying/obnoxious fans, but so does every school. I find Clemson and Georgia to be worse.
Well yeah, UGA and the orange team are the worst. It literally cannot be worse.
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Well yeah, UGA and the orange team are the worst. It literally cannot be worse.
Have you ever talked to a UNC fan?
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