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Old 06-09-2014, 05:29 PM   #1
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No jury, just a judge. Ed O testified today, will have some more tomorrow. Bama's Tyrone Prothro will then testify tomorrow.
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Sounds like he's just trashing the NCAA and they're exposing lots of inconsistency and unsubstantiated claims by him.
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This nonsense is going to open the floodgates for the worthless entitled generation.
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This nonsense is going to open the floodgates for the worthless entitled generation.

Like Spurrier said- race horses and college athletes are the only performers in this country who don't get paid.

And you allege entitlement? Hah you're a damn fool.
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Like Spurrier said- race horses and college athletes are the only performers in this country who don't get paid.

And you allege entitlement? Hah you're a damn fool.
The stipend should get increased, but they receive a great deal for their service. You can argue its not proportional, but saying they get nothing is not true either. Just ask Victor Hampton, who lost his room and board, personal trainers, nutritionists, 3+ meals a day, amazing platform to showcase skills and educational opportunities to chase the dollar. It was a risk, and didn't work out for him.

Some of the most successful people in the world today started out working for others for almost nothing in an internship role. They learned the craft, got to meet people, and when the time was right and if their talent warranted it they cashed in and started moving up the chain. And by cashed in I don't mean millions of dollars, I mean they got a job with a regular paycheck.

It is highly possible to graduate college with a degree while being debt free and somewhat of a celebrity in your town, and that's if you are just an average player with no real shot at the NFL when all is said and done. Your name is known to hundreds of thousands of fans, many of which are business owners or in management. People sooner or later have to realize in life that sometimes your "dreams" don't always come true, or at the very least you shift that dream to mean something else than what you thought in high school and college. Sometimes these guys just find out they aren't good enough. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it happens every day. The concept of hedging your bets and giving yourself some insurance is an important one to learn.

Now me personally, I think the NCAA video games should have been the perfect vehicle to pay players for their likeness. You could take the profits and split it amongst all D1 scholarship athletes who play that sport. If you play a sport that isn't among those popular enough to get a video game, you get the standard athlete stipend which should be increased.
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The stipend should get increased, but they receive a great deal for their service. You can argue its not proportional, but saying they get nothing is not true either. Just ask Victor Hampton, who lost his room and board, personal trainers, nutritionists, 3+ meals a day, amazing platform to showcase skills and educational opportunities to chase the dollar. It was a risk, and didn't work out for him.

Some of the most successful people in the world today started out working for others for almost nothing in an internship role. They learned the craft, got to meet people, and when the time was right and if their talent warranted it they cashed in and started moving up the chain. And by cashed in I don't mean millions of dollars, I mean they got a job with a regular paycheck.

It is highly possible to graduate college with a degree while being debt free and somewhat of a celebrity in your town, and that's if you are just an average player with no real shot at the NFL when all is said and done. Your name is known to hundreds of thousands of fans, many of which are business owners or in management. People sooner or later have to realize in life that sometimes your "dreams" don't always come true, or at the very least you shift that dream to mean something else than what you thought in high school and college. Sometimes these guys just find out they aren't good enough. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it happens every day. The concept of hedging your bets and giving yourself some insurance is an important one to learn.

Now me personally, I think the NCAA video games should have been the perfect vehicle to pay players for their likeness. You could take the profits and split it amongst all D1 scholarship athletes who play that sport. If you play a sport that isn't among those popular enough to get a video game, you get the standard athlete stipend which should be increased.

The internship comparison is open for debate as well since there are new employment law cases involving the rights of interns. Unpaid internships are not going to be around forever.
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The internship comparison is open for debate as well since there are new employment law cases involving the rights of interns. Unpaid internships are not going to be around forever.

Not likely. If so they will back real soon. Because internships provide good work experience and companies are not going to just start paying inexperienced people for the work these interns do. They will do without as opposed to paying.

A lot of these movements are due the fact that unions have supporters in place everywhere. The NRLB is basically controlled by the unions, they are people appointed by union-loving Barrack Obama. They are always going to make the the pro-union choice. Even a lot of the judges are pro-union, especially in places like Chicago. Hopefully someone will stand up the unions and stop their corruption.
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The stipend should get increased, but they receive a great deal for their service. You can argue its not proportional, but saying they get nothing is not true either. Just ask Victor Hampton, who lost his room and board, personal trainers, nutritionists, 3+ meals a day, amazing platform to showcase skills and educational opportunities to chase the dollar. It was a risk, and didn't work out for him.

Some of the most successful people in the world today started out working for others for almost nothing in an internship role. They learned the craft, got to meet people, and when the time was right and if their talent warranted it they cashed in and started moving up the chain. And by cashed in I don't mean millions of dollars, I mean they got a job with a regular paycheck.

It is highly possible to graduate college with a degree while being debt free and somewhat of a celebrity in your town, and that's if you are just an average player with no real shot at the NFL when all is said and done. Your name is known to hundreds of thousands of fans, many of which are business owners or in management. People sooner or later have to realize in life that sometimes your "dreams" don't always come true, or at the very least you shift that dream to mean something else than what you thought in high school and college. Sometimes these guys just find out they aren't good enough. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it happens every day. The concept of hedging your bets and giving yourself some insurance is an important one to learn.

Now me personally, I think the NCAA video games should have been the perfect vehicle to pay players for their likeness. You could take the profits and split it amongst all D1 scholarship athletes who play that sport. If you play a sport that isn't among those popular enough to get a video game, you get the standard athlete stipend which should be increased.
I agree with all of this.
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The stipend should get increased, but they receive a great deal for their service. You can argue its not proportional, but saying they get nothing is not true either. Just ask Victor Hampton, who lost his room and board, personal trainers, nutritionists, 3+ meals a day, amazing platform to showcase skills and educational opportunities to chase the dollar. It was a risk, and didn't work out for him.

Some of the most successful people in the world today started out working for others for almost nothing in an internship role. They learned the craft, got to meet people, and when the time was right and if their talent warranted it they cashed in and started moving up the chain. And by cashed in I don't mean millions of dollars, I mean they got a job with a regular paycheck.

It is highly possible to graduate college with a degree while being debt free and somewhat of a celebrity in your town, and that's if you are just an average player with no real shot at the NFL when all is said and done. Your name is known to hundreds of thousands of fans, many of which are business owners or in management. People sooner or later have to realize in life that sometimes your "dreams" don't always come true, or at the very least you shift that dream to mean something else than what you thought in high school and college. Sometimes these guys just find out they aren't good enough. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it happens every day. The concept of hedging your bets and giving yourself some insurance is an important one to learn.

Now me personally, I think the NCAA video games should have been the perfect vehicle to pay players for their likeness. You could take the profits and split it amongst all D1 scholarship athletes who play that sport. If you play a sport that isn't among those popular enough to get a video game, you get the standard athlete stipend which should be increased.
The back up plan shouldn't be suing people though. It should be preparing while you are in school for alternative career choices in other fields by taking the courses that in a field that interests you since the school is offering them for free. I think most student athletes understand this and do the right thing, but because some don't, we get people saying "College athletes don't care about class or degrees!" It's an insult to the majority of the college athletes and a gross generalization.
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Like Spurrier said- race horses and college athletes are the only performers in this country who don't get paid.

And you allege entitlement? Hah you're a damn fool.
And just because he says it doesnt make it true. Well the race horse part is
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The problem from a possible legal standpoint is that there are laws that protect freedom and competition between organizations such as businesses and schools. It can be...and is argued that the NCAA is a cartel that has set rules that prohibit both for players. As the NCAA is the only game in town, there is no alternative. That, and the obscene amounts of money being taken in and paid to coaches and administraters.

It's going to be tough for the NCAA, being that this is being decided by a federal judge in California.
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I have this before and will say it every time this bs comes up, no one and I mean no one forced them to go play college. You want the real villain it's the NFL and NBA. The NCAA needs to clean the Universities up with all their rapes, drug using, domestic violence, and underage drinking, these are real problems. The NCAA needs to have standard punishments for these crimes instead of the Universities "policing" themselves and they have done a piss poor job of that.
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I have this before and will say it every time this bs comes up, no one and I mean no one forced them to go play college. You want the real villain it's the NFL and NBA. The NCAA needs to clean the Universities up with all their rapes, drug using, domestic violence, and underage drinking, these are real problems. The NCAA needs to have standard punishments for these crimes instead of the Universities "policing" themselves and they have done a piss poor job of that.

It's not an either / or discussion.
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For those advocating that an education is payment enough. How do you feel about players being shuttled to classes that require little effort and do not conflict with practice time? Suppose our starting whatever wants to be an engineer and a class they needs for graduation is only offered during a time period that will force them to miss several practices and a couple of games.

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