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Old 06-17-2014, 12:15 AM   #1
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Default Why did we ever switch from garnet helmets??

God, those things were sweet. I know some people don't care what the Gamecocks wear, but I think the garnet helmets were iconic.

Anyways, that's all I have to say about that.
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Default Re: Why did we ever switch from garnet helmets??

Well some don't care but you have to wonder why we have changed and continue to change our uniforms. I have the feeling it's just under armor but not positive. I personally love the old jerseys and helmets you speak of maybe instead of the wounded warrior jerseys that we wear and always lose in we can wear our old jersey look?
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Old 06-17-2014, 03:18 AM   #4
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Default Re: Why did we ever switch from garnet helmets??

We switch up because recruits and players like variety and new stuff. It's a recruiting tool. Why else do you think Oregon has a new Uni every week.

Schools that don't have great tradition like So Cal, Texas, OU, Penn State etc. need to keep up with the jones's by changing their uni's every few years.

I for one like the new stuff too. I get bored seeing the same uni's year after year.

I would however love to see us in throwback uni's for one game a year. I think that would look awesome.
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We switch up because recruits and players like variety and new stuff. It's a recruiting tool. Why else do you think Oregon has a new Uni every week.

Schools that don't have great tradition like So Cal, Texas, OU, Penn State etc. need to keep up with the jones's by changing their uni's every few years.
I for one like the new stuff too. I get bored seeing the same uni's year after year.

I would however love to see us in throwback uni's for one game a year. I think that would look awesome.
I would say these schools have great traditions and shouldn't change their unis...they are classics.
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I would say these schools have great traditions and shouldn't change their unis...they are classics.
Yea that's what I was trying to get at but now that I read it again I completely missed my objective lol. My bad
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We switched because lou thought there were to many red helmets in the sec. Bama, arky, msu, uga. At the time only Tennessee was wearing white helmets maybe UK some but it wasn't their main helmet. Lou went white helmets and changed out jerseys making the whole look similar to Penn st
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We switched because lou thought there were to many red helmets in the sec. Bama, arky, msu, uga. At the time only Tennessee was wearing white helmets maybe UK some but it wasn't their main helmet. Lou went white helmets and changed out jerseys making the whole look similar to Penn st

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Lou wanted a more "disciplined" image for the Gamecocks team. He
went more toward the Army, Navy, Penn State .... and of course,
Notre Dame look. For the first two / three years with Lou as our head
coach, we didn't have names on the backs of the jerseys either. He said
he wanted to promote "TEAM" instead of "ME". ?!?!?

One of the first things Spurrier was asked on his call in show when he
took over the program was "would he consider switching to a Black or
Garnet Helmet" ? ... Spurrier said he liked the white helmet and uniform
because it was cooler to play in, in the early fall when temps were still
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:03 AM   #9
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Lou wanted a more "disciplined" image for the Gamecocks team. He
went more toward the Army, Navy, Penn State .... and of course,
Notre Dame look. For the first two / three years with Lou as our head
coach, we didn't have names on the backs of the jerseys either. He said
he wanted to promote "TEAM" instead of "ME". ?!?!?

One of the first things Spurrier was asked on his call in show when he
took over the program was "would he consider switching to a Black or
Garnet Helmet" ? ... Spurrier said he liked the white helmet and uniform
because it was cooler to play in, in the early fall when temps were still
in the 80/90s here.
Lou took the names off the ND jerseys when he was there. The no names was more of a Holtz thing than an ND thing.
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Lou wanted a more "disciplined" image for the Gamecocks team.
Yes....he was trying to move us away from the BS era and the unis were associated with it.

I still wish we'd have retro unis from the '84 team. Would be so cool to see those again...our best ever!
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God, those things were sweet. I know some people don't care what the Gamecocks wear, but I think the garnet helmets were iconic.

Anyways, that's all I have to say about that.
They make it harder for the QB to spot receivers during his scan.
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They make it harder for the QB to spot receivers during his scan.
With that logic, then our secondary should get the advantage of being stealthy and have more interceptions.

In closing, I have never bought that argument.
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With that logic, then our secondary should get the advantage of being stealthy and have more interceptions.

In closing, I have never bought that argument.
It's not really that novel to hardcore football junkies. See LINK.

BTW, it's not so much the color as it is the difference between most of our opponents.
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It's not really that novel to hardcore football junkies. See LINK.

BTW, it's not so much the color as it is the difference between most of our opponents.
Um, okay? Please tell me you weren't trying to knock my football knowledge with that comment. If so, you don't know what you are talking about.

With that said, did you even read the article you linked? Ha. It points out that, if anything, the helmet switch was just a preference of the QB to what he *hoped* would help him out. In the end, it was inconclusive and nothing significant occurred from it. The article even mentioned a joke from the equipment manager that had he returned, the only thing else (further than switching from white to red) was adding a flashing light to the helmet.

Besides, of the 7 teams in our division- 4 (including us) wear white helmets all or part of the time.
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You asked why we switched to white. What people are wearing now is not relevant to what happened in the past.

I don't wish to engage in a pissing contest with you about who has the better football knowledge. So, I will just acknowledge you as the greatest football mind. However, even great minds can learn every now and then.

It is not just the article I linked. That was just the first one in the google search. If you want to research further to confirm it, you are welcome to do so. According to my memory banks, Spurrier has said the white helmets help the QB scan. I know he said something like that after we played UF in the famous black out game with Holtz as coach.

I am not slamming your football knowledge. You are not slamming mine. I was just trying to answer your question.
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If you look at the history of our program white helmets are our traditional look.

But the main reason was Lou, and someone summed it up about the number of red helmets in the sec.

Also, the garnet helmets don't look all that sweet on TV. Sometimes they looked brown, and/or didn't match the color on our jerseys.

Anywho, OBC ain't going away from white helmets.
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Not really. The garnet helmets are just as much of a traditon as the white...and may more so considering the Morrison years.
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Not really. The garnet helmets are just as much of a traditon as the white...and may more so considering the Morrison years.

I think we wore garnet helmets from 1983-1998. So, 16 season in 120 or so seasons Almost every other season we wore white or leather helmets.

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I think we wore garnet helmets from 1983-1998. So, 16 season in 120 or so seasons Almost every other season we wore white or leather helmets.
"we" wore leather helmets 120 yrs ago? How long you been a fan?
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