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Old 06-22-2014, 01:14 PM   #1
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If our o line can keep Dylan upright and not hurried then I truly believe he will pick apart any defense. 2001 Miami didn't allow a single sack, maybe one, and won it all with Ken Dorsey. I think Dylan can throw just as well as Dorsey did and I think we can do the same thing or at least put ourselves in a good position to win it all. Our offense will be a well oiled machine if Dylan never sees the turf.
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If our o line can keep Dylan upright and not hurried then I truly believe he will pick apart any defense. 2001 Miami didn't allow a single sack, maybe one, and won it all with Ken Dorsey. I think Dylan can throw just as well as Dorsey did and I think we can do the same thing or at least put ourselves in a good position to win it all. Our offense will be a well oiled machine if Dylan never sees the turf.
He will get sacked
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Miami wasn't playing SEC defences week in and week out.
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You do know they beat 5 top 15 teams that year?
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You do know they beat 5 top 15 teams that year?
They were really good, but didn't finish with wins over 5 top 15 teams.

Penn State 5-6
Rutgers 2-9
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Not that it matters. We finished with 3 top 10 wins last year, 1 being a top 5 team on the road. We also lost to 2 unranked teams.

I think the Auburn fan's point is a good one though. No way Miami goes through that season without a sack playing SEC defenses, the strength of which always has been and always will be their Dlines. There's just no other league in the country that compares and it's the Dline where the "SEC speed" sets them apart from everyone else.

That said, we can forget about not giving up a sack. That's just totally unrealistic. Especially in this league and especially considering we gave up 23 just last year with a more mobile QB.

Last year our oline was pretty good and that was good enough for Carolina's best in a long, long time. I hope they take the next step and are great this year. It's what this program has sorely lacked through this high point in our history. But even if they do take that step, giving up no sacks in the SEC is nothing more than a fantasy.

I agree that TOs will be the most important stat. But I think we need to concentrate on takeaways from the defense. I have a feeling that's going to be our best bet in stopping teams and getting the ball back for Spurrier's offense.
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No way in heck our O-line prevents Dylan from getting sacked at least twenty times this year. UT had a brick wall for an O-line and yet their QB got sacked.
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No way in heck our O-line prevents Dylan from getting sacked at least twenty times this year. UT had a brick wall for an O-line and yet their QB got sacked.
20 really? seems high. while good UT oline was way overrated and it showed at the NFL draft
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No way in heck our O-line prevents Dylan from getting sacked at least twenty times this year. UT had a brick wall for an O-line and yet their QB got sacked.
20? nahhhhhhh.
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Call me crazy, but if we don't turn the ball over, I feel that we can win some games this year.
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Call me crazy, but if we don't turn the ball over, I feel that we can win some games this year.
BU which team are you referring too?
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If our o line can keep Dylan upright and not hurried then I truly believe he will pick apart any defense. 2001 Miami didn't allow a single sack, maybe one, and won it all with Ken Dorsey. I think Dylan can throw just as well as Dorsey did and I think we can do the same thing or at least put ourselves in a good position to win it all. Our offense will be a well oiled machine if Dylan never sees the turf.
You do realize that 2001 Miami team is considered by some to be the best college football team ever right? They had 6 first team All Americans on that team. They had 17 players alone from that 2001 team that were drafted in the first round at some point including Andre Johnson, Sean Taylor, Kellen Winslow, Jonathan Vilma, Jeremy Shockey, Vince Wilfork,Willis McGahee, and Ed Reed just to name a few. Not to mention Clinton Portis and Frank Gore were also selected in the later rounds. They had 38 players from that team drafted in the NFL. It had a lot more to do with those guys than it did with how good Ken Dorsey was or if he ever got sacked. No disrespect intended but South Carolina's upcoming team will not be anywhere close to that good. That was a once in a lifetime team. There are plenty of teams that dont give up bunches of sacks that fail to "win it all".
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You do realize that 2001 Miami team is considered by some to be the best college football team ever right? They had 6 first team All Americans on that team. They had 17 players alone from that 2001 team that were drafted in the first round at some point including Andre Johnson, Sean Taylor, Kellen Winslow, Jonathan Vilma, Jeremy Shockey, Vince Wilfork,Willis McGahee, and Ed Reed just to name a few. Not to mention Clinton Portis and Frank Gore were also selected in the later rounds. They had 38 players from that team drafted in the NFL. It had a lot more to do with those guys than it did with how good Ken Dorsey was or if he ever got sacked. No disrespect intended but South Carolina's upcoming team will not be anywhere close to that good. That was a once in a lifetime team. There are plenty of teams that dont give up bunches of sacks that fail to "win it all".
Dude, in this day and age and our o line as a strength this year anything is possible. And what football genius said we don't have the talent to not give up sacks? If Dylan can get rid of the ball and if we are that legit at o line, why couldn't we be as good as Alabama or close? I think some fans don't have a whole lot of faith in our guys. I do.
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How many did Bama give up the year they beat ND in the title game?

That was a great offensive line.
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Connor was sacked 20 times last year. Granted it could have been less, but it could have been more too. Less scrambling, throwing the ball away more etc..

IMO, Dylan will scramble less and get pressured more. The link above is why I estimated at least 20 sacks for Dylan this year. If he is sacked less than that I will be amazed.
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20 seems like a reasonable number. If we give up less than that, our OL will be even better than we thought.
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as ridiculous of a statement that is, I have to say I agree. If we give up no sacks all year, I'm very confident we would go undefeated.
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Lower number of sacks hopefully 0 sacks should translate to fewer TOs.
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Default Re: No sacks=undefeated, maybe 1 loss

We could take the sacks and still go undefeated. Who will be good enough to beat us?
Clemson will be our toughest because they are our rival but I don't see losing to anyone else. We just keep reloading!!
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We could take the sacks and still go undefeated. Who will be good enough to beat us?
Clemson will be our toughest because they are our rival but I don't see losing to anyone else. We just keep reloading!!
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