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Old 07-02-2014, 04:41 PM   #1
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OK, the other thread got me thinking...maybe a separate thread just for the discussion between those interested in getting more acquainted with professional soccer and those who know a thing or two.

Reason being, I tried to google the different teams / leagues...and, holy hell, it's like trying to read Greek.

So, any of our soccer aficionados want to give us a good run down on the different leagues and some of their teams? A compilation of multiple posts from the World Cup thread (ex.; EPL / Champions / others)?
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The big 5 that matter are...

EPL - England/Wales (Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City etc)
La Liga - Spain (Barcalona, Atletico Mardrid, Valencia, Real Madrid, etc)
Bundesliga - Germany (Bayern Munich, Borusia Dortmund, Shalke, etc)
Serie A - Italy (AC Milan, Juventus, Inter Milan, Napoli, Roma, etc)
Ligue 1 - France (Paris St Germaine, AC Monaco)

All of these leagues have lower leagues that promote good teams to the top divison while bad teams from the top divison are relegated to the lower divisions.
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The big 5 that matter are...

EPL - England/Wales (Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City etc)
La Liga - Spain (Barcalona, Atletico Mardrid, Valencia, Real Madrid, etc)
Bundesliga - Germany (Bayern Munich, Borusia Dortmund, Shalke, etc)
Serie A - Italy (AC Milan, Juventus, Inter Milan, Napoli, Roma, etc)
Ligue 1 - France (Paris St Germaine, AC Monaco)

All of these leagues have lower leagues that promote good teams to the top divison while bad teams from the top divison are relegated to the lower divisions.
...and all of these can play each other whenever they want...like interleague play?

I don't get the scheduling in soccer. It seems like any team can play any team in a "friendly"...but what the hell is the point of that game? Is there a separate schedule just for the teams in the league to decide a champion?
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...and all of these can play each other whenever they want...like interleague play?

I don't get the scheduling in soccer. It seems like any team can play any team in a "friendly"...but what the hell is the point of that game? Is there a separate schedule just for the teams in the league to decide a champion?
If they are good enough they will play eachother in the champions league.
Which has been discusssed here
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If they are good enough they will play eachother in the champions league.
Which has been discusssed here
So then only the champions of each of these leagues discussed will play each other...in a separate champions league? Got it. Does the Champions League season coincide with their regular league's schedule?

Then from what you are telling me, unless a team is involved in the champions league, they won't play each other in any other case...just the teams in their league.
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So then only the champions of each of these leagues discussed will play each other...in a separate champions league? Got it. Does the Champions League season coincide with their regular league's schedule?

Then from what you are telling me, unless a team is involved in the champions league, they won't play each other in any other case...just the teams in their league.
Right, you won't play team's from another league unless it's either a pre-season friendly or in the Champions League or Europa League. Each league gets a certain number of teams into the Champions League and Europa League. The British Premier League for instance gets the top 4 teams into the Champions League and then 3 into the Europa League.
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So then only the champions of each of these leagues discussed will play each other...in a separate champions league? Got it. Does the Champions League season coincide with their regular league's schedule?

Then from what you are telling me, unless a team is involved in the champions league, they won't play each other in any other case...just the teams in their league.
Well not the champions as some leagues send 3-4 teams.

Also below the Champions is the Europa League (think of it as the "BCS bowls" while the champions league is the football playoff)
That consists of teams that weren't good enough to qualify for the champions league or were knocked out of the champions league at a certain stage of the tournament.

And yes these coincide with the leagues regular season play, other than the CL finals games are usually played mid week, while whatever that teams domestic league is are played on the weekends.

So let's use Arsenal as an example- they will play Bayern Munich (a German team) on a Wednesday or Tuesday in the CL, them Saturday or Sunday will play Newcastle for a premier league game

The CL final is played after all of the major domestic leagues have already finished their league play.
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...and all of these can play each other whenever they want...like interleague play?

I don't get the scheduling in soccer. It seems like any team can play any team in a "friendly"...but what the hell is the point of that game? Is there a separate schedule just for the teams in the league to decide a champion?
Friendly matches are generally just in the pre-season. Each Country has a domestic league where they play for a championship. The best teams from each country, based on the previous year's season, also compete in the Champions League. Champions League is more of a tournament than a league.
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...and all of these can play each other whenever they want...like interleague play?

I don't get the scheduling in soccer. It seems like any team can play any team in a "friendly"...but what the hell is the point of that game? Is there a separate schedule just for the teams in the league to decide a champion?
You will see a lot of the top teams in each league play each other in the preseason. Every year, many of these teams come to the US and play exhibition matches. Here is the schedule for the ones being played in the US this summer after the World Cup ends. Unfortunately, don't expect a lot of the big name players to play a lot because they want to rest and recover after the World Cup. This is like Spring Training for a lot of the European teams.

Here's the main site, teams, and schedule for the International Champions Cup this summer in the US.

http://internationalchampionscup.com/

Here is a quick look at the schedule.

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/w...ons-cup-022014
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You will see a lot of the top teams in each league play each other in the preseason. Every year, many of these teams come to the US and play exhibition matches. Here is the schedule for the ones being played in the US this summer after the World Cup ends. Unfortunately, don't expect a lot of the big name players to play a lot because they want to rest and recover after the World Cup. This is like Spring Training for a lot of the European teams.

Here's the main site, teams, and schedule for the International Champions Cup this summer in the US.

http://internationalchampionscup.com/

Here is a quick look at the schedule.

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/w...ons-cup-022014
Liverpool will be playing AC Milan in Charlotte Aug 2nd. Not sure how many of the top players will actually play since they will probablly just be coming back fromm holiday after the World Cup.
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Yep, that's why I said this when posting the schedules

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^^^^

The Dutch league is pretty good too and has Ajax, Feynord, PSV, etc.

Little defense is played in dutch football and most of the best players are poached by better/richer leagues.
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The Dutch league is pretty good too and has Ajax, Feynord, PSV, etc.

Little defense is played in dutch football and most of the best players are poached by better/richer leagues.
On that note, if those now getting interested in watching soccer want to see goals scored, watch the Eredivisie (the Dutch league) or the Bundesliga (German league). These two leagues lead the world in the amount of goals scored per match.

There's a reason Jozy scored 31 goals a couple of seasons ago and Aron Johannson lit it up this year. Might as well call it the Ere*ivisie because there is no D.
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I hear that you're considered a bandwagon fan of you pull for Manchester United or Real Madrid. My friends that really like soccer equate those with liking the Yankees or Red Sox just because they're well known and usually good.
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IMO for a beginner the best would be the EPL.

They just signed a contract with NBC and based on your cable provider you can watch any game on Saturdays and Sundays. (When there are multiple being played)

On top of that they have the most of the "largest teams" and if you're in a business like myself where you work with people from England, you can easily talk with them about it.
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IMO for a beginner the best would be the EPL.

They just signed a contract with NBC and based on your cable provider you can watch any game on Saturdays and Sundays. (When there are multiple being played)

On top of that they have the most of the "largest teams" and if you're in a business like myself where you work with people from England, you can easily talk with them about it.
(Well the last part is just a good addition for myself)
I loved the job NBC did with the coverage last year. Big step up from Fox Soccer. They also have a free app so you can stream all of the games on the go if your cable provider gets NBC Sports.
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IMO for a beginner the best would be the EPL.

They just signed a contract with NBC and based on your cable provider you can watch any game on Saturdays and Sundays. (When there are multiple being played)

On top of that they have the most of the "largest teams" and if you're in a business like myself where you work with people from England, you can easily talk with them about it.
(Well the last part is just a good addition for myself)
Here's an AWESOME way to get introduced to soccer and the EPL. If you don't want to watch an entire match yet, there's a show that comes on Saturday nights (you can tape it on the East Coast if you don't want to stay up) called Match of the Day. It's basically a 2 hour show which goes through the main highlights of every match in about 10 minutes. When I can't see the games live on the weekends, I watch this show.

During college football season, it's a great way to keep up with the EPL since we tend to be a bit busy on Saturdays.
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Teams easily able to see in the states every weekend are basically the EPL. Other leagues are hard to catch games for unless you have BeinSports or the occasional ESPN airing of a game. So if you are looking for a team to casually follow I would suggest starting with the EPL. It then boils down to if you want to pull for a big underdog,in the running, or championship caliber team. Usually not much parity in the top 4 teams every year. If you want a team to pull for that's in the running that has an American based player watch Everton. An underdog team with an American pull for Aston Villa. Championship caliber team has no Americans so it would come down to play style IMO. A team I root for outside the EPL would be Dortmund from the Bundesliga. The support and atmosphere they have at that stadium is almost unrivaled (check some videos out of that stadium). Hope this helps you a little bit and if not then I would say just catch any bigger name team vs another on the occasional wknd for a good game!!


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Ok question- I'm going to be spending a week at a time, many times, in Belgium for the foreseeable future. (I know...interesting timing)

What are, if any, my soccer options? Any professional teams to speak of that I should be aware of?
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Ok question- I'm going to be spending a week at a time, many times, in Belgium for the foreseeable future. (I know...interesting timing)

What are, if any, my soccer options? Any professional teams to speak of that I should be aware of?

Belgium teams aren't very high quality I guess you could say, but yes they do have a league. Anderlechte (sp) and Standard liege are the top two teams there almost year in and year out. If I were you I would try and go to Germany if at all possible to watch a match. Higher quality matches and all that jazz in Germany.


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