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Old 08-31-2014, 08:46 PM   #1
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Yes I know that we are only one game into the season and I do not want this to be mistaken as a overreaction/under-reaction thread about what happened on Thursday. I am just hoping for a genuine discussion on what South Carolina's future looks in relation to the other teams in the SEC.

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UGA- Always has great athletes, haven't gotten over the hump in recent years but will continually recruit well/always have solid coaching/good facilities

TENN- I honestly believe is a sleeping giant possibly bigger than where they use to be. Fans and players have bought into what Butch Jones is selling and he is recruiting really well. They have improved facilities and could be really trouble in the next few years.

UK- I think Mark Stoops has done well in recruiting and efforts to improve their football facilities and standing in a "basketball" school. I could see them flip flopping with Vandy in the aspect of possibly reaching 8-9 wins for a couple years in a row.

Vandy - James Franklin leaving might have set this program back further than anyone could have realized.

Mizzou- An enigma to me. They are improving their stadium and seem to like Pinkel but I just cant buy into them being a contender year in and year out but will come up every 2-3 years and surprise people (i.e. last year)

UF - Muschamp is making strides to improve their offense. They will ALWAYS have athletes but he is not liked well and I do not see him lasting there much longer even if he does have a better season this years

I want do into all the West but:

Auburn with Malzahn is here to stay, Bama is Bama

Texas A&M - Since we play them every year Ill say this. They have money we could only dream of, a coach that I think is out to prove something and could turn into a giant in the game. They have a rich recruiting base that doesn't have cycles it just reloads. This is a game we are going to dread having to play year in and year out. However will Sumlin get plucked up by the NFL only time will tell? Also have you seen their new football facilities? Makes our new upgrades look 5-10 years behind.


With all that said our unprecedented success has been great, however is it sustainable, do you think we recruit well enough to provide us a foundation to whomever comes after the HBC? I mention all this for the seemingly lack of swagger and attitude of a building program that many of these other teams have. We seem to have some similar issues year in and year out (i.e. starting slow, trouble vs. lesser opponents, dropping that one game a year we shouldn't) Solutions? Am I a crazy?
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Just when you think you won't post for a while. But I'll do it anyway.

We are in a pickle honestly. Our state really isn't bad at putting out Div I players, but the problem is that our neighbors are the top 10, barring California, Ohio, Texas, and maybe Pennsylvania, though that isn't what it used to be.

We are one of the smaller population southern states. Mississippi, Kentucky, and Arkansas are the only ones with a smaller population if you want to say Arkansas is southern. That said I've seen tons of different breakdowns on this, but Louisiana and Mississippi generally wind up producing more NFL players per capita when you use that for a proxy for how much talent you are putting out.

Now our state puts out more talent than Kentucky and Arkansas, but we usually wind up losing some players to the school up the road.

The biggest advantage we have recruiting wise is how close we are to Georgia and metro Atlanta. And Auburn does that one better (Clemson too honestly).

We have no national presence in recruiting. Never have, unless a guy like Holtz or Spurrier drags in a guy like Brewer or the like by his rep. We don't have an offense that has an identity and makes guys in Texas say "Man I have to play in that. They offer me a visit and I am going."

Plus I think people need to face facts. Columbia just isn't that attractive to a lot of recruits. Be honest about it, wine and cheese cracks aside. Would you rather go to school in the Triangle area if you have no connections to Columbia, or Columbia?

You can rinse and repeat for a number of other locations nationally, and in the SEC.

Things aren't like they used to be either. Whether they can take their programs to where they want to go or not, all this new money is bringing in a new breed of coach. Stoops and Jones are both doing a bang up job recruiting all things considered.

We may be spending money on facilities, but other teams are too. And the only schools that are less well heeled than us, even in the SEC are the Mississippi schools. Tennessee budget crisis is a blip in the bigger picture, they still make considerably more revenue than we do. The other schools... as a rule of thumb the farther north you go the more money there is. Then there A&M's oil lease money, Arkansas' chicken/walmart/even oil money, and other places that are just in states that there is more money floating around in like Florida and Georgia, and it just floats in somehow. Not that their athletic department revenue is poor to begin with.

In the end we will always have lesser facilities than most of the SEC schools. If it is effective, they will just plain have more money to throw at it.

I'm going to cut this short. But the next guy we hire after Spurrier is maybe the most important one we ever make. They are going to have to guess right. I really don't think their is another name like Spurrier or Holtz that is going to be looking when that does happen.

We are going to have to get one of these young guys that lives and dies by recruiting. Whether you hate him or not, James Franklin would have been ideal for us.

Of course he has other fish to fry.

Right now I think we get recruits more from Spurrier's reputation, and the fact that he is constantly in the media's eye. If he wasn't in that any more than say Dan Mullen, we wouldn't recruit nearly as well.

That is a long winded way to say that regardless of this season, competitiveness or even winning seasons aren't a given, despite our recent run.

We could do very well in a number of conferences across the country with players we recruit. But our neighborhood is some kind of Hobessian war zone.

A lot of our problems would go away if we could get Clemson to drop football. Of course they could say the same. Their situation isn't as bad because there are only a couple of team in the ACC (FSU, Miami) that are just inherently better, and only a few that really should be better (UNC). But whether they come out and say it or even think it, they have some of the same problems we do in regards to getting the kind of players to win the national championship.

I mean look at yesterday. Maybe Danny recruited better a year or two, but this is the best recruiting run they have ever had the past few years. And even if it stayed close on the field for a half, the eyeball test and score did not lie.
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But the next guy we hire after Spurrier is maybe the most important one we ever make. They are going to have to guess right. I really don't think their is another name like Spurrier or Holtz that is going to be looking when that does happen.

We are going to have to get one of these young guys that lives and dies by recruiting.
im glad you did post ... i think you are 100% correct here.. i think i want someone who is going to make their name and establish a legacy here and not someone who made their name somewhere else first... i think we have the ad who understand that ... HBC has always been great and developing players but it would be nice to get some players who are 5* and can be developed to be superstars... we had Latti whose career unfortunate got cut short and Clowney who was great but beyond that we havent had a superstar QB (love shaw btw) or WR that was a complete game changer since alshon ... i just feel like our margin of error is beginning to shrink considerably when looking forward .. these next 2 years could really be a crossroad for the future of the program
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im glad you did post ... i think you are 100% correct here.. i think i want someone who is going to make their name and establish a legacy here and not someone who made their name somewhere else first... i think we have the ad who understand that ... HBC has always been great and developing players but it would be nice to get some players who are 5* and can be developed to be superstars... we had Latti whose career unfortunate got cut short and Clowney who was great but beyond that we havent had a superstar QB (love shaw btw) or WR that was a complete game changer since alshon ... i just feel like our margin of error is beginning to shrink considerably when looking forward .. these next 2 years could really be a crossroad for the future of the program
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I personally feel we should have won the East the last 3 years but the fact we didn't might be a red flag to recruits and even potential fans that might be shopping for a team to support. We showed we can win but we HAVE NOT showed we can get over the hump and until we do so than this is going to be tough for us all to live through. WE have beaten the best on the field we have nemesis's we all know but we are capable and if there was a simple answer we would have figured it out and been champs by now but that is not the case.

Honestly I think we need to stick to our gameplan or never play another game and also a retooling couldn't hurt. I fear we all know what our obstacle to that is at this point but what he has done for us can not be denied and will block a potential brighter future but an otherwise unknown. We are in a tough spot right now if you guys catch what I am talking about I just wish that Spurrier would be open to bringing in an OC with some new ideas and thinking to work with him because I have been unhappy with decisions that have been made offensively for years now. Our defense has been more than serviceable to win us some championships but we haven't so what is the real issue?
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Honestly all of me doesn't want to say this but the way its looks right now I think our chances for an SEC and National Title may have passed us. It really feels as though we have plateaued at 11-3 and no championships as in all those 3 straight 11 seasons we dropped at least 1 game we had no business losing, that's not even mentioning the year we won the East. We don't have a championship mentality like Bama whose goal is National Title or bust, still too many fans are happy with winning 11 games. I remember the days of just getting to a bowl was an accomplishment but now not winning championships is unacceptable, we had too much talent the last 3 years to not have won an SEC championship. We need to be able to ignore the hype and focus on winning championships rather than what the so-called experts on the 4 Letter say.

UGA is poised to lock control of the East for the next few years at least, they are back. UT is a team that is 2-3 years to being the Fulmer UT of old. UF is getting top talent as always but I don't think as long as Muschamp is there they won't the UF under Spurrier. UK is an up and comer now that they have decided they want to be more than just a basketball school, they might not be the UK under the Bear but Butch is going to build a good program up there again. Vandy I think achieved everything they will every achieve before Franklin left, they are going back in the cellar for a long time. Mizzou the jury is still out on them they could repeat this year as East Champs, this is not a team to take lightly as they have gotten adjusted to life in the SEC, they could give us a fits every year.

Not even to try and break down the west Bama, Auburn, LSU, and aTm are going to be battling for superiority of the West but Ole Miss isn't far from being in the SEC Championship game.
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We caught a perfect storm there for a while with some of the states top recruits also being some of the top nationally (Jeffery, Clowney, Latimore, etc). The talent pool has grown significantly more shallow in recent years. This to me is the biggest hurdle. SOS has done a fantastic job of keeping the best talent in state, but our state's best is no longer elite. We will pick up the occasional solid recruit from UGA or Florida, but we can't count on getting top shelf players from those states on any kind of regular basis.

The next biggest issue is that we simply can't recruit nationally. For all of our success and Spurrier's name recognition, we just don't get recruits out of the Texas or California gold mines. When you consider going up against UF, FSU and Miami for Florida talent (Clemson also seems to do very well there for some reason or another) getting that state's talent is a tall order as well.

We really were just fortunate that we had such a good run of top talent in our state and I'm not sure what we do now that it's no longer the case.

The third factor for me is Clemson. We have 2 programs in the state that are currently nationally relevant. The aforementioned diminishing in-state recruiting talent makes having 2 nationally programs nearly impossible unless you can recruit nationally. Dabo ha many shortcomings as a coach but, say what you will, he's a doggone heckuva of a recruiter.

As for SOS's replacement? Who knows? I don't know that there's anyone in-house who excites me. I know SOS takes pride in his approach to coaching, and it works for him. But I think the next guy we get needs to be a Saban type who lives and breathes the job. I'm not knocking SOS at all, but maybe the reason Bama has those championships under Saban and maybe the reason they have all those great recruiting classes is because the job is his life. I dunno. Obviously, I think we need to go young. Do we stick with someone who has strong ties to recruiting in this area? Do we look for a west coast guy who has recruiting in-roads in that part of the country?

I wouldn't say the window has closed already for us, but I'd say it is in the process of closing. Next year's recruiting class is absolutely critical. It's looking great right now and we have to keep it together at all costs.
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It would be nice to get a head coach in the same fashion as Fla picked up Urban Myer. Some one young who has proved themselves else where. The only thing to bring a top notch coach to USC is the fact we are in the SEC. Everyone lose may disagree with me but that's how I look at it
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It would be nice to get a head coach in the same fashion as Fla picked up Urban Myer. Some one young who has proved themselves else where. The only thing to bring a top notch coach to USC is the fact we are in the SEC. Everyone lose may disagree with me but that's how I look at it
The risk with doing the Urban Meyer thing is risk getting a Darrin Horn. Coaches from the non-major conference schools are hit and miss. Urban Meyers and Jim Tressels are rare finds. I would lean towards a young offensive-minded coach who can bring a top shelf DC. But I'd also be ok with a Nick Saban.

No matter what, it'll be a crap shoot and we just have to hope we guess right.
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No way Urban Liar would have won without Tebow and Harvin -- especially Tebow.

If he doesn't have 2x or 3x the talent of the other team he's just an average coach, at best; and a much less than average person.

The way he lied and left Florida TWICE -- who treated him like a king -- showed what trash he really is.

Then you find out about all the no-discipline and all the arrests he allowed . . . just for a few more Ws.

Whoever we get after Coach Spurrier needs to have the same integrity.

We need more than just any up-and-coming young coach.

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The risk with doing the Urban Meyer thing is risk getting a Darrin Horn. Coaches from the non-major conference schools are hit and miss. Urban Meyers and Jim Tressels are rare finds. I would lean towards a young offensive-minded coach who can bring a top shelf DC. But I'd also be ok with a Nick Saban.

No matter what, it'll be a crap shoot and we just have to hope we guess right.
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This has been a really good thread so far. Kudos to everyone for the good discussion and insight/opinions.

My first thought is that this thread seems to show that the Old Carolina is still alive and well within Gamecock fans. One bad loss and all of a sudden the wheels are about to fall off the whole program.

I think the future is very bright for Carolina football and the athletics program in general. We have a stellar recruiting class lined up for next year. We have more money flowing in than we ever have before, from the SEC, from TV, and from alumni and donors. I think it's important to recognize we have done such a great job that other schools are making improvements to keep up with us. We will eventually have to upgrade again, but the money will be available to make those improvements - a huge difference from 15 years ago.

I agree that the question of who will be the next head coach is arguably THE most important decision that the Carolina AD will every make regarding football and the future success of our program. But let's not forget that Spurrier has agreed to stay on as a 'consultant' or 'adviser' or something to that effect after he retires. He will still be around to help sell our program, and I assume be a part of the hiring process for the next guy.

I think someone from the SEC or ACC would be ideal because they will be more likely to have the ability to quickly establish recruiting connections.

I've always been of the mindset that we should think big. I'd like to see us make a pitch to Saban. Sure he's won at LSU and Alabama and will go down as one of the greatest coaches in SEC history if he does nothing... but how many coaches have done it at three schools? He's young enough and potentially egotistical enough to be sold on it. Plus who wants to live in Tuscaloosa anyway?

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Plus I think people need to face facts. Columbia just isn't that attractive to a lot of recruits. Be honest about it, wine and cheese cracks aside. Would you rather go to school in the Triangle area if you have no connections to Columbia, or Columbia?
Disagree. Columbia isn't the prettiest city in South Carolina, but it's actually very nice as a whole. Lexington, Tuscaloosa, Starkville and Knoxville are are garbage dumps compared to Columbia. I've never been to the other SEC cities, though I've heard College Station is rather boring. Nashville is amazing, but it's also proof that if the city was the only thing that mattered, Vandy would dominate every year.

And let's be honest, Clemson barely qualifies as a town. They have TWO blocks of anything interesting and a total of like four roads - including a bypass road with some strip malls and fast food. Columbia has a cosmopolitan atmosphere, with multiple entertainment districts and is in the heart of a solid, economically prosperous, medium sized metropolitan area. Further, no everyone wants to go to college in a 'college town.' I bet many kids from small towns would love to be in a city for a change of pace. I didn't play sports, but the fact that Columbia was a much larger city than where I grew up (Spartanburg) was a major draw for me.


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3. We need to go big on facility upgrades. Stop chipping at this $10 million every other year. WB needs to be beautified, modernized, upgraded, etc. Stop diverting so much funds to non-revenue sport facilities. Those will come in time.
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Okay, this is a pet peeve of mine.

South Carolina has its drawbacks but it has major positives when it comes to recruiting -- we simply don't present them properly.

I have lived in Texas for 52 of my 55 years and the other three I spent when I relocated our family to Columbia.

I spent 15 years running a college guidance consulting firm and took a great deal of interest in the "intangibles" that each college has to offer.

Looking at things from a Texas perspective, here are just a few...

1) Texas beaches suck -- big time. Sure, you can go to South Padre and get drunk and play in the waves a bit, but the water is clear as mud. If you go swimming in Corpus Christi you get covered in freaking tar balls that you have to wash off with this God-awful solvent that's probably carcinogenic.

As a contrast, Texas students need to see the contrast that Charleston, Hilton Head and Myrtle Beach offer, and they are reasonably close to Columbia. That's the part everyone misses about Texas -- any nice place you want to go is a hell of a long drive. (Except the Highland Lakes and Hill Country around Austin).

2) 99% of Texas is flat as a pancake and boring to look at. The natural beauty of South Carolina is absolutely stunning to a Texan. Nearly every Texan I talk to that hasn't visited the Palmetto state is oblivious to all the natural beauty. Those that have come to visit on vacation, etc. are hooked.

3) Access. From Columbia, you can get to cool places like Charleston, Savannah, Hilton Head, Wilmington, Greenville and the Upstate in less than two hours. These places have beauty but they also have history and culture. To a Texan, being able to drive to such marvelous places (forgot Aiken -- big mistake on my part) in less than two hours is something they can't even comprehend. I live in Dallas and it can take up to 12 hours to get the hell out of the state, depending on the direction you go.

4) All I am saying is that South Carolina as a state kicks ass. USC shouldn't just promote Columbia when we recruit -- the entire state should be part of the offering. The history (Revolutionary and Civil War), the food (Texans go nuts over mustard-base barbeque sauce once they experience it), the culture, the natural beauty (hills all over the place, even some mountains in upstate -- and beautiful rivers with natural lakes -- Texas has one, just one natural lake!)

This is what Texans would die for if presented properly.

Add all that to a great institution where you can get a tremendous education... it's a winning combination.

Years ago I put together a college guidance portfolio of my own for USC for my daughter and her friends to look over when she was considering colleges. All these Texas kids (from the top public school in the nation) were totally blown away.

And yes, some did enroll at USC.

If we ever learn to take recruiting seriously, that's exactly what will happen with top-drawer recruits.

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This is a great post, but I want to point out that South Carolina doesn't have any 'natural' lakes. All of ours are man-made. There are swamps and a geological anomaly called the Carolina Bays, but that's about it. That said, our lakes still are quite beautiful.
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An outsider's two cents.....

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Steve has made you relevant. You're doing a much better job of getting the elite talent in state to stay home.

You've improved facilities. You're not lightyears behind like you used to be.

There is enough talent in the Carolinas, that if you beat out others for what is left over in Georgia and Florida you can build a fine team.

negatives:
Clemson: It's ashamed you have another team that is a recruiting magnet in state. Thankfully UGA does not have that problem.

WB stadium: Your fans and atmosphere are great, but that stadium is not one of the best in the conference as far as beauty goes. I'm sure most of you won't like that I say this, but I'm being objective. I hate UF and UTK with passion but I can't deny they have good stadiums.

SEC: It's a recruiting draw, but it's much easier for Clemson to stay in the top ten than you guys. There can only be two to three dominant teams in the East year to year. UTK looks like they are on the right track, UF and UGA will always be able to sign elite classes because of instate talent. It's really a dog eat dog world in the SEC and very hard to stay on top for a long time.


As a whole though, right now I think you guys are in the best shape you've ever been for long term success. Your next HCing hire will be huge.
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I keep hearing Mark Dantonio, maybe even Pat Narduzzi. Problem is no one knows how long SOS will stay, and top tier coaches don't last forever.
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I keep hearing Mark Dantonio, maybe even Pat Narduzzi. Problem is no one knows how long SOS will stay, and top tier coaches don't last forever.
Eh...Dantonio is already 58.

I also don't want an NFL guy. No matter what they say during the interview process, any NFL guy will head back for the pros if he has success in college.
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Eh...Dantonio is already 58.

I also don't want an NFL guy. No matter what they say during the interview process, any NFL guy will head back for the pros if he has success in college.
This may be blasphemy, but what about Chad Morris?
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This may be blasphemy, but what about Chad Morris?
I'm fine with the concept as in a Chad Morris type. But we've seen far too often that a good D totally shuts his offenses down.
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This may be blasphemy, but what about Chad Morris?
As 18 said the idea is ok, maybe not Chad though.

But I have a theory, actually I have lots of theories.

I think we need to be a strong running team, if I had my way we run 2/3 of the time and pass 1/3. Unless they are stacking the box, then we will be happy to take what you give us.

It really does seem like defenses and athletes have caught up with the option. If they see it regularly they do very well against it.

But we need to run the ball without Stanford, Wisconsin, or Alabama's OL. So to me that means we run a spread.

Chad may have Malzahn connections but he is way too pass happy. My take on Malzahn is that he will use the strength of his players, and take what the defense is giving.

But in the end he is a run first coach, unless he is stronger passing than running or the defense is giving the pass.

Chad is just too pass happy to suit me.

Ideally to me we run something like Nevada did when Ault was there. Obviously the pistol, but that was a ball control team.

The hurry up works, but I would rather control the clock more.

But I really think that we will never be able to get the kind of linemen consistently it takes to run the I formation and power over people here.

An air raid would work, and maybe the fans would be happier with it. But given my druthers I want to control the clock and run the ball.
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I don't think Dantonio is leaving Michigan State till he retires. Just a guess but I expect him to be there another 5 to 10 years, and not going to leave for another school.

I've seen Narduzzi mentioned as a candidate for a few jobs, and he certainly has the credentials. But geez, other than a West Coast guy could we get anyone who is further from our recruiting grounds?

It's early still, but the next guy has to be a lights out recruiter. I don't want to start a Chad bashing thread, but a hotshot coordinator who isn't known as a recruiter won't do it for us, so some of the names who come up in the next few years aren't going to work for us.
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We have just started changing the culture here at SC (SOS was the start - not the start and end). We must make football even more of a priority in order to go to the next level. We need to do the following:

1. Expand recruiting. Dedicate more resources, expand footprint to include Texas, top five recruiting should be our goal every year.
2. Stop promoting within all the time on the coaching staff. For example, when EJ or even BL left we should have replaced these vacancies with proven equal or better talent.
3. We need to go big on facility upgrades. Stop chipping at this $10 million every other year. WB needs to be beautified, modernized, upgraded, etc. Stop diverting so much funds to non-revenue sport facilities. Those will come in time.
4. Hold the BOT and AD accountable. Demand results. These people have more support and money than ever before; therefore, they need to produce.
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We have just started changing the culture here at SC (SOS was the start - not the start and end). We must make football even more of a priority in order to go to the next level. We need to do the following:

1. Expand recruiting. Dedicate more resources, expand footprint to include Texas, top five recruiting should be our goal every year.
2. Stop promoting within all the time on the coaching staff. For example, when EJ or even BL left we should have replaced these vacancies with proven equal or better talent.
3. We need to go big on facility upgrades. Stop chipping at this $10 million every other year. WB needs to be beautified, modernized, upgraded, etc. Stop diverting so much funds to non-revenue sport facilities. Those will come in time.
4. Hold the BOT and AD accountable. Demand results. These people have more support and money than ever before; therefore, they need to produce.
How do we do #1 in your opinion? You're right, of course, but it's not like we haven't been getting recruits from Texas because we haven't wanted them.
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