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Old 09-02-2014, 10:56 PM   #1
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This looks promising. Hopefully we see a defense this week we're used to seeing.

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Old 09-03-2014, 01:57 AM   #2
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This looks promising. Hopefully we see a defense this week we're used to seeing.

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no matter what adjustments they make, our defense is not going to be as good as it has been in the past 3-4 years.
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Old 09-03-2014, 01:42 PM   #3
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People need to understand that JD Clowney is a game changer. He changes the offensive playbook entirely. We don't have that anymore, and from the looks of English in the A&M game...... we wont come close to a decent tackler much less a pass rusher. Bottom line is Deke needs to prove himself as a coach. We had a huge drop off with his line last year, yea we lost some guys, but we still had a stout NFL ready dline. Deke has been at best mediocre in his units production. I expect a huge day for the d line in the ECU game. They do run a quick spread, so if we cover like we did during the A&M game, we WILL LOSE THIS GAME.

that being said, hype and bullshit taking plays off aside, Clowney made our entire team that much harder to play.
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People need to understand that JD Clowney is a game changer. He changes the offensive playbook entirely. We don't have that anymore, and from the looks of English in the A&M game...... we wont come close to a decent tackler much less a pass rusher. Bottom line is Deke needs to prove himself as a coach. We had a huge drop off with his line last year, yea we lost some guys, but we still had a stout NFL ready dline. Deke has been at best mediocre in his units production. I expect a huge day for the d line in the ECU game. They do run a quick spread, so if we cover like we did during the A&M game, we WILL LOSE THIS GAME.

that being said, hype and bullshit taking plays off aside, Clowney made our entire team that much harder to play.
I agree. He can clearly recruit...but can he coach.
A good coach (Lawing) can make 3-star guys look good with technique, effort and playing smart....a good recruiter can bring in good players and do nothing with them.

I haven't been impressed so far with the lack of fundamentals and technique the line has shown since Adams has arrived (no hand fightin, no swims, spins...just bull rushing guys).
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I agree. He can clearly recruit...but can he coach.
A good coach (Lawing) can make 3-star guys look good with technique, effort and playing smart....a good recruiter can bring in good players and do nothing with them.

I haven't been impressed so far with the lack of fundamentals and technique the line has shown since Adams has arrived (no hand fightin, no swims, spins...just bull rushing guys).
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I agree. He can clearly recruit...but can he coach.
A good coach (Lawing) can make 3-star guys look good with technique, effort and playing smart....a good recruiter can bring in good players and do nothing with them.

I haven't been impressed so far with the lack of fundamentals and technique the line has shown since Adams has arrived (no hand fightin, no swims, spins...just bull rushing guys).
Did Deke take over coaching duties from Lawing this year?

Must've missed that...
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Did Deke take over coaching duties from Lawing this year?

Must've missed that...
Well he had three guys to go on to play in the NFL who were all upperclassmen. Lawing had the work done for him at that point.
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I agree. He can clearly recruit...but can he coach.
A good coach (Lawing) can make 3-star guys look good with technique, effort and playing smart....a good recruiter can bring in good players and do nothing with them.

I haven't been impressed so far with the lack of fundamentals and technique the line has shown since Adams has arrived (no hand fightin, no swims, spins...just bull rushing guys).
Who are these 4* guys that Adams has, you are talking out both sides of your mouth...Lawing coached Ingram, Clowney, Taylor, Norwood...Tell us who is a 4* prospect starting on the D-line at the present and then tell us why Lawing couldn't get those Sparky Woods recruits to play lights out! Adams coached at north carolina and s. miss so how many 4 and 5 star players you reckon he saw before joining Spurrier?
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A good coach (Lawing) can make 3-star guys look good with technique, effort and playing smart....
Did you miss the games Lawing coached our DL and we were curbstomped by teams like Florida and Arkansas?
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no matter what adjustments they make, our defense is not going to be as good as it has been in the past 3-4 years.
Granted, it doesn't have to be as good as those if our Offense comes together the way it should.
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Granted, it doesn't have to be as good as those if our Offense comes together the way it should.
I could not agree more. In past years our defense has kept us in games we probably had no business winning due to poor play on offense. If we can run the offense like we have run against Clemsux, controlling the clock & limiting possessions, it would go a LONG way in helping out with the defensive issues. Allowing a team to run 99 plays, no matter who they are, is a recipe for disaster.
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I could not agree more. In past years our defense has kept us in games we probably had no business winning due to poor play on offense. If we can run the offense like we have run against Clemsux, controlling the clock & limiting possessions, it would go a LONG way in helping out with the defensive issues. Allowing a team to run 99 plays, no matter who they are, is a recipe for disaster.
People keep saying this and I don't get it. Well I do but I don't agree with it. The whole control the clock, ground and pound is exactly what we need to do and will do. But that philosophy only works if the defense can stop the opposing offense. If not, it becomes a shoot out not a control the clock type game.
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People keep saying this and I don't get it. Well I do but I don't agree with it. The whole control the clock, ground and pound is exactly what we need to do and will do. But that philosophy only works if the defense can stop the opposing offense. If not, it becomes a shoot out not a control the clock type game.
If our O stays on the field, it gives our D an advantage so that they're better rested, and can be coached up more on the sidelines for any mistakes the coach's saw. It would also wear down the opposing D, so (ideally) we could score easier when/if the game was on the line.
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People keep saying this and I don't get it. Well I do but I don't agree with it. The whole control the clock, ground and pound is exactly what we need to do and will do. But that philosophy only works if the defense can stop the opposing offense. If not, it becomes a shoot out not a control the clock type game.
Ground and pound allows the defense to stay fresh, to adjust and shoot it out in the 4th quarter, we never gave the defense a breather Thursday, the longest we held onto the ball was 3:35 but most possessions were in the 1-2 minute range. This gives the defense no time to rest, no time to adjust and very little time to coach during the game.
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This is not a Clowney effect, the team came out flat as hell and lacking every fundamental you can think of. The coaches AND players failed to prepare, they wont do that again.
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This is not a Clowney effect, the team came out flat as hell and lacking every fundamental you can think of. The coaches AND players failed to prepare, they wont do that again.
Agreed.
The Clowney loss hurt, but he did not cover up all the mistakes we saw.
Some of hte worst open field tackling I have seen around the board.

Coaches failed to put our players in situations they could succeed, and our players performance reflected that...they weren't ready to play, and our coaches on defense apparently took the whole summer off.

Hope they actualy did their job in preparing for ECU this week.

We have the talent...but they need to be coached up...and if these defensive coaches can't do that, we need to find some that can coach them up.
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The defense needs to adjust?
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I think a few uniform changes, and we're unbeatable.
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Wasn't it BAW who said this defense could be better than last years? Yeahhhh about that.... Major adjustments are needed, quickly.
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