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Old 09-03-2014, 12:03 AM   #1
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Kevin Sumlin, Gus Malzahn, Bobby Petrino, Chip Kelly use it, and the list goes on. Varieties such as the air raid, and pro-spread have proven to be very lethal to opposing defenses, so why won't Spurrier, the inventor of the FNG try and implement it? If Texas A&m can use it for evil purposes, why can't we? I'd love to see a flat out killer spread be used here.
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Kevin Sumlin, Gus Malzahn, Bobby Petrino, Chip Kelly use it, and the list goes on. Varieties such as the air raid, and pro-spread have proven to be very lethal to opposing defenses, so why won't Spurrier, the inventor of the FNG try and implement it? If Texas A&m can use it for evil purposes, why can't we? I'd love to see a flat out killer spread be used here.
Saban, Miles, Richt and Fisher don't.
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Saban, Miles, Richt and Fisher don't.
Spurrier is an OFFENSIVE guy. His thinking goes right along with the devastating aspect of the Spread. Isn't he the perfect guy to tinker with the Spread, or has he become too archaic in his thinking to innovate anymore?
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Spurrier is an OFFENSIVE guy. His thinking goes right along with the devastating aspect of the Spread. Isn't he the perfect guy to tinker with the Spread, or has he become too archaic in his thinking to innovate anymore?
SOS has already made adjustments to his offense to adapt to the zone read......his offense is fine......Malzahn's offense is more run oriented, it's not a spread.
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SOS has already made adjustments to his offense to adapt to the zone read......his offense is fine......Malzahn's offense is more run oriented, it's not a spread.
It's basically a hybrid Option offense.
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yes, but run first......
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SOS has already made adjustments to his offense to adapt to the zone read......his offense is fine......Malzahn's offense is more run oriented, it's not a spread.
u r correct, yet not.. anymore. Ss did employ the inside zone read for quite some time highly effectively. Garcia/Shaw + Lattimore. His initial version was the QB aproached the los where QB either gave it to rb (majority) or qb kept and ran (significant minority).

upon the injury to lattimore we continued to use it in name however it ws at that point for all practical purposes we ceased the QB keeper aspect. It became essencially an inside handoff, QB step out of the way and hope someone follows him. From that point forward nearly all QB runs were either designated or broken pass play escapes. you could count on your hands and feet ( maybe don't need feet) the # of times we ran the inside zone read with an optional QB keeper in which the QB actually kept it.
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Spurrier is an OFFENSIVE guy. His thinking goes right along with the devastating aspect of the Spread. Isn't he the perfect guy to tinker with the Spread, or has he become too archaic in his thinking to innovate anymore?

Fischer and Richt aren't offensive guys?
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actually Richt has implemented it into his offense. we still run the I as a bread and butter, but we do a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets and a fair amount of HUNH. Mason likes to go HUNH more than Murray did.

if you go back and watch the Clemson game we ran HUNH for the first 3 quarters and then slowed it down in the 4th after getting a lead.

Bobo has done a nice job of mixing the offensive styles together.
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actually Richt has implemented it into his offense. we still run the I as a bread and butter, but we do a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets and a fair amount of HUNH. Mason likes to go HUNH more than Murray did.

if you go back and watch the Clemson game we ran HUNH for the first 3 quarters and then slowed it down in the 4th after getting a lead.

Bobo has done a nice job of mixing the offensive styles together.
Never thought I'd give Bobo credit for anything, but it's hard to argue with that after the Clemson game. Great piece of coaching on both sides of the ball.

Now, let's see if it was just all left out on the field for just that ONE game :)
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Default Re: Why won't Spurrier implement the spread offense here?

College football has almost come full circle. Defenses are going to find it difficult to scout for Pro-style offenses because everyone is now running versions of Spread. Teams don't see our type of offense much anymore. Stay put SOS and let the universe change, not you.
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LOL. I agree.
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Default Re: Why won't Spurrier implement the spread offense here?

All those guy you mention run very different offenses .. Sumlin runs a verison of the air raid, malzahn is actually a version of the zone read that's predicated on a very run first mentality (essentially the triple option out of the shotgun), Petrino actually had a balanced attack with a couple of pro sets the other night actually .. The spread is such a loose term and over used to describe such a variety of different offenses ... The overall idea is to get athletes into space
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Kevin Sumlin, Gus Malzahn, Bobby Petrino, Chip Kelly use it, and the list goes on. Varieties such as the air raid, and pro-spread have proven to be very lethal to opposing defenses, so why won't Spurrier, the inventor of the FNG try and implement it? If Texas A&m can use it for evil purposes, why can't we? I'd love to see a flat out killer spread be used here.
Clemson uses it also... I don't recall them being too successful against us recently. Just say'in...
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Default Re: Why won't Spurrier implement the spread offense here?

I have a personal definition of the spread. Basically the qb does not take snap directly from center, but it is a long snap. Additonally the qb is a designed runner.

Now even if I call it a spread, you can do it pass oriented like Clemson, or run like Malzahn, RichRod, or Nevada.

The Air Raid is often called a spread, and it does spread the field in a similar fashion. But the big difference to me is the qb really isn't a runner.

Though Sumlin and it looks like Holgorsen definitely seem to be adding qb runs to their spread versions. Sumlin rolled his qb out a lot, and he also ran a lot.

Maybe Halliday at Washington State is immobile, but Leach doesn't appear to be doing that. So maybe the Air Raid and Spread are converging.

I will say the line is kind of nebulous. The Chad seems to love to throw as much as Malzahn does to run.
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Zone read with DT doesn't work. Sorry, need a QB who can run.
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Zone read with DT doesn't work. Sorry, need a QB who can run.
hence the reason for increased use of the I including play action this year.....so will the I go the way of the back shoulder throw that was used so much in summer practice that we failed to see against A&M, or will we spring it on an unsuspecting ECU....only time will tell.....
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Zone read with DT doesn't work. Sorry, need a QB who can run.
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Zone read with DT doesn't work. Sorry, need a QB who can run.
Amen. Get Mitch in there for some zone read stuff. Otherwise - get in the freaking I formation if you want to run.
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With very few exceptions our offense has been mediocre without a mobile QB over the past 10 yrs. The latter part of 2006 with Blake is about the only time I can recall the offense operating at a high level with a straight drop back guy.

New day, new time. We absolutely must have a mobile QB imo. History with Spurrier at USC says it's true.
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