To all of the Spurrier "bashers" out there.

[Flameout12]

Originally Posted by 21-in-Right

I completely agree. Here's to him proving us wrong.

Absolutely....it would be wonderful if SOS finally distinguishes himself from all of our other coaches with some very special teams. This is what we hired him to do and what we've been waiting to see.

However, it is improper to spin the outcomes into premature accolades that really haven't been won yet. Don't pin any medals until they've actually been won.

We can spin the careers of Jim Carlen, Coach Joe, Lou, and SOS in both positive or negative directions depending on what outcomes you focus on. But when you lay the main standard by which all coaches are judged by (W-L records) up against one another, the sum of the outcomes are almost identical, which means they've all done about the same. The same could be said for SOS v. Urban Meyer and their respective tenures at UF: They've both done exceptionally well...but neither is ahead of the other...they've both done about the same.
And there's really nothing negative or hating about any of that. It's just the way it is.

[Spurticus]

Originally Posted by damron

I understand what you're saying, Spurt...but I wouldn't say us winning the CWS was a miracle...we had what we needed - like we've had before...we just went out and DID IT this time...that's what we need to do in football - go out and DO IT...RMO III

It absolutely was a miracle. We've had better baseball teams before. The
team that went up against Texas in '04 I think was the best baseball team
we had ever put together (IMO).
Let's face it. We hit a slump during the series with Florida, and we gave
up the Eastern Conf Title, and rolled over and died in the SEC Tournement.
The Regionals is where we got some confidence back, and beating
Coastal in the supers the way we did, I think gave us some confidence
going to Omaha, BUT . . . . No team had ever won the CWS after losing
the opening game. We Did That, Only one other team in the history of
the CWS had won it from the loser's bracket. . We did that. No one
can argue that of the 8 teams in Omaha, we weren't the best team
there going in. I really think Clemson was the team proving themselves
at the end of the season, and showing they had a team that could
possibly win it all. . . . . .After losing that first game we could not afford
to slip up again until reaching the finals which meant we had to be
perfect, and until that time we were far from a perfect team. Facing
elimination at the hands of Oklahoma yet again, and pulling it out in
Extra Innings, then having to beat possibly the best team in the tourney
twice to even get a shot at the title, And pulling it off ! . .. .the rest is
history after we put Clemson away, but to say that run of games after
the opening loss the way we won them wasn't a miracle really takes
away from the magnitude of what they accomplished. The best teams do
it easily, We proved to be a Great team by overcoming some pretty
incredible odds to win it all. . . . It was a miracle

[ConwayGamecock]

I'm hip to the scene, man......

[FoghornLeghornCock]

Originally Posted by Spurticus

To the current wave of Spurrier (and team) supporters. . . . .THANK YOU
It's refreshing to see a unified effort to gain support for our coach and the team. It
appears that this year, both are in position to give us the best year of Gamecock
football that the majority of us haven't seen in our lifetime. . . . and some of us, a
team that could accomplish great things similar to that of the 1984 Gamecocks,
and maybe even top that . . . . . . . . . HOWEVER.

I will challenge all of you who are rallying in the threads to proclaim your loyalty to
this team, and to the leader(s) of it now, and who are posting responses in the
threads questioning our coach and doubting our team now . . . As well as those
who take up arms against the "bashers" NOW, by challenging their posts in this
threads, . . . . . . .To Show This Same Degree Of Support For Our Coaches
And Players In The Middle Of November IF. . ( IF ), our team should not be in a
position to challenge for Eastern Conf Title, or IF the team is struggling to win
a game in the final two or three weeks just to get bowl eligable.

By this, I am asking, if you want to ralley the members of this board to support
our program now, and show your status as SUPER FAN before Fall Camp gets
underway, then show your status as SUPER FAN if (god forbid) The team is
once again mired in an effort to finish above .500 going into the last couple of
games of the season. . . . .Stay out of the Vent Threads, Do Not start threads
calling for Spurrier to GO, and take coach(s) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ with them, or
start (or respond to) the threads and posts cussing out, or bashing our players.


Wanna Be Super Fan NOW, when there is a rumble of enthusiasm encouraged
by even some in the media that we might actually win more than seven games this
season, and the majority of local news outlets are making some positive statements
about the program after Summer Workouts. . . . . Wanna prove to the world that
you are a TRUE Gamecock fan ? . . . .Place your signature on it in this thread
simply by posting your Screen name Signature and underlining it in this thread, if
you will do the above. . . . If the team DOES win 8, 9 or more games, it
definitely will not be hard to stick to that promise, . . . . .BUT, if the alternative
is the case in November, I'd just like to see how many "FANS" will put their
SuperFan status in July to the test in November by putting the promise in writting NOW.

I'm In

Spurticus

I'm in. I have never been one to participate that much in vent threads especially regarding a coach when the problem is usually poor execution by the players which I try to be fair with. To me the only time a coach needs comments on in the vent thread is when the gameplan was lousy. One of our loses against Vandy we only ran the ball 6 times the entire game that is a lousy game plan in my view and I said so. I hated our soft defense in Tyrone Nix's last year against FL and in not challenging Tebow on the line of scrimmage before he got a running start so we surrendered before the game started. These were definitely poor coaching decisions in my view. That is pretty much when I choose to question coaches.

My view as Gamecock fans is every year expect no more than 7 or 8 wins tops you will be a much happier Gamecock fan over time and have fewer disappointments. Success of a program comes in stages. Becoming a top six SEC team is my goal right now to replace a TN or Auburn who are weaker than FL, AL, GA, and LSU in recruiting which is where winning teams are built. Where we are more lacking in beating these teams is quality depth to sustain ourselves when injuries occur at the end of a season when pretenders falter. The biggest difference in talent in our team is in regards to second and third stringers on our team over the big six. They have more overall talent than we do going in and some of our fans refuse to acknowledge that at all. I found it funny how some fans hated Ray Tanner for saying we were not the best team at the CWS because that means even things like luck played a part in our winning a national championship it is blasphemy to say that. Heaven forbid if that happens and it causes you to win a game you probably shouldn't have on paper or maybe wouldn't in a long series where talent usually wins out.

Our backup to Garcia is true freshman Connor Shaw of GA. HIGH SCHOOL: Dual-threat quarterback who threw for 3,100 yards and 30 TDs with just six interceptions as a senior at Flowery Branch (Ga.) High School, graduating in December 2009... also rushed for 800 yards and 17 scores... played for his father, head coach Lee Shaw... squad finished 10-4 and reached the state semifinals... as a junior, passed for 2,200 yards and 22 scores while rushing for 941 yards and 11 TDs... team finished as the runner-up in the AAA division... had 1,200 yards receiving and 15 touchdowns as a sophomore wide receiver... considered a three-star prospect, the 19th-best dual-threat quarterback in the nation and the state's 47th-best player by Rivals.com... rated a three-star prospect and the nation's 31st-best quarterback by Scout.com... regarded as a three-star prospect and the nation's 46th-best "athlete" by ESPN.com. http://gamecocksonline.cstv.com/spor..._connor01.html


GA's backup to Aaron Murray is true freshman Hutson Mason "The AJC Class AAAAA Player of the Year set single-season state records for passing yards (4,560) and touchdown passes (54) at Lassiter. He’s understandably confident in his abilities."

Great teams really do reload we don't. We hope Connor Shaw or Kenny Miles are diamonds great teams overlooked in being choosy with scholarship limitations. http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2010...orgia-qb-race/

[Spurticus]

I really think the major source of frustration (mine included) comes from
our expectations the day Mike McGee announced Steve Spurrier as our
new Head Coach. . . It was the same expectations we had when he
announced Lou Holtz as the new coach too. There was reason to place
much expectation on those two (Especially Spurrier). We all saw us being
the New Florida Gators by this time, and when we got a big ole dose of
reality a couple of years back, and it was apparent we couldn't get the
recruits he got in Florida, and the recruits we did get weren't quite as
"coachable" as those he had in Florida, then we all start to blame Spurrier
for not being the coach he was at Florida. . . . . In fact, if you look at the
'05 (with the streak of SEC games at the end of the year) and the '06
decision to put Newton under center because we had arguably the worst
O/line in the five + years Spurrier's been here, and it clicked. . .I would
dare to say it showed the Genius this guy really is. . No we didn't finish
above 8 wins, or even look good doing it, but those teams would not
have won 4 games under any other of the coaches we had prior to
Spurrier taking over. You can only do so much with what you have to work
with, and we need to realize until we get good solid talent across the
board like he had at Florida, or a good solid O/line to make everything
go, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE FLORIDA OF THE 90s. . . . Until this
program becomes "sellable" to the upper tier talent out there, we are
going to have to take baby steps in gettting where we won't to be.
As long as this team doesn't become the 7 or 8 wins one year, and back
to 2 or 3 years of sub 6 wins, I'm willing to wait for the improvements.
My frustration lies mainly in the fact that we didn't seem to be
moving forward, but basically stagnate, and failing to correct the blarring
problems with both the coaches AND Players. . . . . BUT. . . I've never
participated in any of the Vent threads, or started threads calling for
our AD to get rid of our coaches (any sport), or cuss out players that
can't seem to get with the program. I'll state my mind in a way of
venting without bashing. It's all we can do, because all the cussing
ranting, kicking the dog, and yelling for our AD to DO SOMETHING
will do no good until THEY decide to make a move. We don't call the
shot for this program, and there's no need to bash the program or
the coaches. . . .It is What it is, until the AD decides it isn't.

[Coondog]

Originally Posted by Spurticus

I really think the major source of frustration (mine included) comes from
our expectations the day Mike McGee announced Steve Spurrier as our
new Head Coach. . . It was the same expectations we had when he
announced Lou Holtz as the new coach too. There was reason to place
much expectation on those two (Especially Spurrier). We all saw us being
the New Florida Gators by this time, and when we got a big ole dose of
reality a couple of years back, and it was apparent we couldn't get the
recruits he got in Florida, and the recruits we did get weren't quite as
"coachable" as those he had in Florida, then we all start to blame Spurrier
for not being the coach he was at Florida. . . . . In fact, if you look at the
'05 (with the streak of SEC games at the end of the year) and the '06
decision to put Newton under center because we had arguably the worst
O/line in the five + years Spurrier's been here, and it clicked. . .I would
dare to say it showed the Genius this guy really is. . No we didn't finish
above 8 wins, or even look good doing it, but those teams would not
have won 4 games under any other of the coaches we had prior to
Spurrier taking over. You can only do so much with what you have to work
with, and we need to realize until we get good solid talent across the
board like he had at Florida, or a good solid O/line to make everything
go, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE FLORIDA OF THE 90s. . . . Until this
program becomes "sellable" to the upper tier talent out there, we are
going to have to take baby steps in gettting where we won't to be.
As long as this team doesn't become the 7 or 8 wins one year, and back
to 2 or 3 years of sub 6 wins, I'm willing to wait for the improvements.
My frustration lies mainly in the fact that we didn't seem to be
moving forward, but basically stagnate, and failing to correct the blarring
problems with both the coaches AND Players. . . . . BUT. . . I've never
participated in any of the Vent threads, or started threads calling for
our AD to get rid of our coaches (any sport), or cuss out players that
can't seem to get with the program. I'll state my mind in a way of
venting without bashing. It's all we can do, because all the cussing
ranting, kicking the dog, and yelling for our AD to DO SOMETHING
will do no good until THEY decide to make a move. We don't call the
shot for this program, and there's no need to bash the program or
the coaches. . . .It is What it is, until the AD decides it isn't.

WELL SAID! As long as Spurrier is our coach I will support him whole heartedly. I personally have avoided the vent threads cause all they do is piss me off from the way people act, though the bowl game did push me to my limits.

This season is poised to be our best since Spurrier has arrived. We have talent accross the board like never before and quality depth in vital positions. We fielded one of the youngest teams in the nation last year so literally everyone of our starters will have at least a full season of experience as well as the taste of that pitiful bowl game going into this season. I think we will get a good idea of what kind of team we will have after this week of practice.

[21-in-Right]

Originally Posted by Spurticus

It's all we can do, because all the cussing
ranting, kicking the dog, and yelling for our AD to DO SOMETHING
will do no good until THEY decide to make a move. We don't call the
shot for this program, and there's no need to bash the program or
the coaches. . . .It is What it is, until the AD decides it isn't.

You don't think ticket sales and fan support (or lack thereof) is a driver of the AD's decision-making? One could probably argue it is the LEADING driver. If attendance continues to fall and the "hope" of the fans starts to falter, THAT will impact whether a coach (any coach) stays or goes. We should know money talks!

(P.S. I know revenue is up, but it's fewer people giving more money. If the wins don't come, that money will dry up. They can't overcome supply and demand.)

[Spurball]

Originally Posted by Spurticus

To the current wave of Spurrier (and team) supporters. . . . .THANK YOU
It's refreshing to see a unified effort to gain support for our coach and the team. It
appears that this year, both are in position to give us the best year of Gamecock
football that the majority of us haven't seen in our lifetime. . . . and some of us, a
team that could accomplish great things similar to that of the 1984 Gamecocks,
and maybe even top that . . . . . . . . . HOWEVER.

I will challenge all of you who are rallying in the threads to proclaim your loyalty to
this team, and to the leader(s) of it now, and who are posting responses in the
threads questioning our coach and doubting our team now . . . As well as those
who take up arms against the "bashers" NOW, by challenging their posts in this
threads, . . . . . . .To Show This Same Degree Of Support For Our Coaches
And Players In The Middle Of November IF. . ( IF ), our team should not be in a
position to challenge for Eastern Conf Title, or IF the team is struggling to win
a game in the final two or three weeks just to get bowl eligable.

By this, I am asking, if you want to ralley the members of this board to support
our program now, and show your status as SUPER FAN before Fall Camp gets
underway, then show your status as SUPER FAN if (god forbid) The team is
once again mired in an effort to finish above .500 going into the last couple of
games of the season. . . . .Stay out of the Vent Threads, Do Not start threads
calling for Spurrier to GO, and take coach(s) _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ with them, or
start (or respond to) the threads and posts cussing out, or bashing our players.


Wanna Be Super Fan NOW, when there is a rumble of enthusiasm encouraged
by even some in the media that we might actually win more than seven games this
season, and the majority of local news outlets are making some positive statements
about the program after Summer Workouts. . . . . Wanna prove to the world that
you are a TRUE Gamecock fan ? . . . .Place your signature on it in this thread
simply by posting your Screen name Signature and underlining it in this thread, if
you will do the above. . . . If the team DOES win 8, 9 or more games, it
definitely will not be hard to stick to that promise, . . . . .BUT, if the alternative
is the case in November, I'd just like to see how many "FANS" will put their
SuperFan status in July to the test in November by putting the promise in writting NOW.

I'm In

Spurticus

Agreed! I keep trying to remind everyone that these are still kids out there playing the game, and we see a marked improvement in the quality of the education that they're getting as a whole, and that is what is also important! I will be a fan until the day I die, no matter what!

[munkeybog]

I've been here my whole life. My Sig is outdated but loyalty is timeless.

[USCFANfromNC]

27 years of Gamecock Club and Season tickets. I've seen it all and heard it all. Analyze (guess) all you want up and down but every season I BELIEVE we will win every game. The one's we should as well as the one's we shouldn't. It sounds like most of you armchair coaches have said enough both ways on team and coaches to claim you were right at the end of the season. I'm all for fans who live in ignorant bliss and undying hope. As for disappointment, there is always next year! I have never been disappointed in the Gamecocks even when they performed poorly. They are kids! Build toward next week,,,next year! I am particularly proud of Chris Culliver who my son played with at Garner High School in Garner, NC. (Also Reggie Bowens, Conner McLauren and Cedric Sneed, a walk-on super young man). One high school in NC and FOUR GAMECOCKS!

[FoghornLeghornCock]

Originally Posted by Spurticus

It absolutely was a miracle. We've had better baseball teams before. The
team that went up against Texas in '04 I think was the best baseball team
we had ever put together (IMO).
Let's face it. We hit a slump during the series with Florida, and we gave
up the Eastern Conf Title, and rolled over and died in the SEC Tournement.
The Regionals is where we got some confidence back, and beating
Coastal in the supers the way we did, I think gave us some confidence
going to Omaha, BUT . . . . No team had ever won the CWS after losing
the opening game. We Did That, Only one other team in the history of
the CWS had won it from the loser's bracket. . We did that. No one
can argue that of the 8 teams in Omaha, we weren't the best team
there going in. I really think Clemson was the team proving themselves
at the end of the season, and showing they had a team that could
possibly win it all. . . . . .After losing that first game we could not afford
to slip up again until reaching the finals which meant we had to be
perfect, and until that time we were far from a perfect team. Facing
elimination at the hands of Oklahoma yet again, and pulling it out in
Extra Innings, then having to beat possibly the best team in the tourney
twice to even get a shot at the title, And pulling it off ! . .. .the rest is
history after we put Clemson away, but to say that run of games after
the opening loss the way we won them wasn't a miracle really takes
away from the magnitude of what they accomplished. The best teams do
it easily, We proved to be a Great team by overcoming some pretty
incredible odds to win it all. . . . It was a miracle

Spurticus there is an article in regards to the hiring of Jerry Myers by Gamecock Anthem that gives additional proof for the doubters in regards to your comments about previous teams maybe having more talent on paper. http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=184&f=2210&t=6175866

[CoverTwo]

I think Spurrier has one more coaching run in him .. He really gets up for years that he thinks his team can compete and win a championship just like his team this year.