Spurrier to SEC: count only division games to choose division champ

[Coulwoodwarlord]

Head games by the master ! He's even got this board out of whack.
I've waited for the day when Steve Spurrier returned, and at last his arrival is upon us.
I'm sure Saban's head is about to explode, Richt may be cool in his response, but he's nervous about it. This rest, save Les, are smart enough not to speak up.
Rejoice Gamecocks, the hated of yester year, has risen from the ashes, and this time, he wears garnet and black...................

[SportyCock]

I find it part amusing and part annoying to read posts that declare as fact that this will never change. I wonder if these same folks are still posting that the BCS will never change. All things on this earth change. SEC basketball and baseball just changed, the number of games per year, the number required for a bowl bid, the number of division 2, I mean FCS, teams you can count all have changed in recent memory. There is no reason not to consider this on its merits. On the merits any fair competition depends on a level playing field. Rotating west opponents is rotating uneven playing field and permanent rivals is permanent, or at least long term, uneven playing fields. The idea that any team would tank cross-division games if they didn't count for the division championship is ludicrous, especialy games between division contenders who might meet again in Atlanta or the NCG or are at least vying for better bowls higher rankings and simply better records. Spurrier is making a perfectly valid point. He may or may not get this done but he will generate publicityand thought on a problem...and get in jawja's head... and motivate our guys to overcome this.

[Order 66]

We were the east champs last year, the schedule says so.

[DCGamecock5]

I believe that this should be the way you decide the East...BUT thats not because of what happened last year. I don't have any sour feelings towards the SEC or UGA(not any extra feelings haha) UGA won it by the rules...but I think the team that wins the most SEC East games should represent the East in ATL.

[jch81]

Would yall still want to disregard SEC WEST teams yall play if the tables were reversed and UGA had ran the table in the east yet South Carolina represented the east in the SECCCG???

[Coulwoodwarlord]

Originally Posted by jch81

Would yall still want to disregard SEC WEST teams yall play if the tables were reversed and UGA had ran the table in the east yet South Carolina represented the east in the SECCCG???

I'd consider it ! That is if you would consider the win against Tech in the ACC Championship, sandwiched between two crushing defeats, as anything other than ................an abberation.

[blackcock1]

Originally Posted by Order 66

We were the east champs last year, the schedule says so.

SEC and the trophy case disagrees.

[jch81]

Originally Posted by Coulwoodwarlord

I'd consider it ! That is if you would consider the win against Tech in the ACC Championship, sandwiched between two crushing defeats, as anything other than ................an abberation.

When it comes down to it though another conference championship is being put up in Death Valley. And yes I would consider those games abberations especially the bowl game as I was there But what fan wouldnt consider a loss to any team an abberation? Nobody wants to ever see there team lose.

[DCGamecock5]

Originally Posted by jch81

Would yall still want to disregard SEC WEST teams yall play if the tables were reversed and UGA had ran the table in the east yet South Carolina represented the east in the SECCCG???

Yes. I honestly think the West games are pointless and not because of a lack of success to me if you win the most East games you should win the East. I don't care if you lose 2 West games or not. If Vandy did it I would say it should be that way. Just my honest opinion. I know what the SEC does it the current way and can respect it.

[robgusc76]

Originally Posted by bigdawg77

The rest of the SEC to Spurrier, quit your whining. Every other division championship in every other sports league is decided this way just because it didn't workout this time for you I'm sorry. Geez Zook & the Gator fans didn't whine at all in 02 let alone 6 months after the fact.

The SEC East teams to Georgia, who hasnt played one of the big 3 for two years running, SHUT THE F*** up.

[SnellvilleSpur]

Originally Posted by scfanohio

I think the HBC is just having some fun. It's another clever zing at Georgia. Writers will now be talking again about how UGA dodges the big three in the west...again.

This.

Spurrier speaks and the entire SEC (particularly UGA) gets jumpy. That right there is what you call power.

[mpilot0705]

I'm 99 % sure the ACC counts division games first then overall record second when determining the division champion. Not sure about the other BCS leagues though.

[Steady]

If you were to tell me at the start of the season we would sweep the east and go on to be 11-2 and have our best season in school history, wouldn't you kind of expect an SEC east title to go along with that?

[eaglegolf018]

I don't agree with it. They don't discount games outside of divisions in MLB, NFL, and other sports. Why play them then?

[MillerTime843]

Yes this is what we need!!! Thats the only thing the ACC has worth a damnn

[I Bleed Garnet]

Originally Posted by mpilot0705

I'm 99 % sure the ACC counts division games first then overall record second when determining the division champion. Not sure about the other BCS leagues though.

Originally Posted by MillerTime843

Yes this is what we need!!! Thats the only thing the ACC has worth a damnn

False, ACC does the same thing

The two teams with the best conference records in each division earn places to the championship game.

[LegalCock]

I mean it does have some pros, because it eliminates the cross-divisional scheduling inconsistencies as a factor in the division championship. Florida wouldn't be complaining about having LSU as a permanent cross-divisional rival for instance, but I'm not in favor.

[I Bleed Garnet]

Originally Posted by robgusc76

The SEC East teams to Georgia, who hasnt played one of the big 3 for two years running, SHUT THE F*** up.

Georgia plays Auburn yearly. They just got lucky they sucked the past few years, but Auburn is a better program than Arkansas.

[Gray is God]

Or Carolina could just beat inferior teams like auburn. I lov Steve and all of gamecock nation but I have to disagree there. You earn your spot I don't want anything given.

[ACPhilson]

Well, Coach has a good point. When you represent YOUR division, you should be the best team in that division. We beat EVERYONE out last year, not one team beat us in the East. We should have represented the East in the SECCG.

Think about what he is saying. If Jawja plays a wimpy schedule in the west, like Ole Miss and Miss St. and UF or USC has to play LSU and Bama or AU, well, its easy to see how Jawja just slips in the back door.

I gotta agree with the coach on this one. And you dont have to make the games in the West mean nothing, make them .5 as one poster said earlier. Easy enough.