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[KaneisAble]

Originally Posted by GoCCUChants

I'm sorry but that isn't racism. Racism is the belief that one person is better or superior to another based solely on skin color. What part of his statement said white people were better than black people? What he said is stereotyping, which most of politically correct America dubs as racism. The thing about stereotyping is there has to be some basis to form the stereotype, and most of the time that basis is true.

I'm not entirely sure you know what racism actually is.

[KaneisAble]

Originally Posted by ColaCock

No, but if there is a serial killer on the loose...even white people would agree with you that they are likely to be white. Nothing wrong with that stereotype because...facts show it is usually true.

Same for a situation like this. I would guarantee you that a higher percentage of shootings occur at clubs/bars/nightclubs frequented by black people OVER those that are frequented by mainly white people. That isn't racist...it is stereotyping, but I feel totally confident in the statement as well.

Nothing wrong with a stereotype if it usually holds true.

Note: For the record, I am only responding to your post...have not read this thread completely or many articles on the topic yet. Don't want to disrespect any who were innocently killed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

[heathbates]

There is no serial killer

[heathbates]

Stereotype? LOL thats also out of the picture....do we, meaning all races, need to discuss this "incident" as a stereotypical event? Please....let me know.

[GH]

Originally Posted by spareparts

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It's time for a latte, meet me at the club and we can talk about the undesirables and how scary they are!

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[ColaCock]

Originally Posted by KaneisAble

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Last question on this this for you, and I will end my part of convo out of respect:

1. Let's say 83% of Crime X are committed by green people.

2. You are sitting at a bar and a news broadcast about Crime X comes across the tube...just occurred, and they are searching for a suspect.

3. Guy across the bar says, "I bet it was a green person."

Was that racist? It was certainly a stereotype...but it can be supported by some strong statistics. What is wrong here?

[JNGolf]

Originally Posted by ColaCock

Last question on this this for you, and I will end my part of convo out of respect:

1. Let's say 100% of Crime X are committed by green people.

2. You are sitting at a bar and a news broadcast about Crime X comes across the tube...just occurred, and they are searching for a suspect.

3. Guy across the bar says, "I bet it was a green person."

Was that racist? It was certainly a stereotype...but it can be supported by some strong statistics. What is wrong here?

Now it isn't racist...

[GH]

Originally Posted by ColaCock

No, but if there is a serial killer on the loose...even white people would agree with you that they are likely to be white. Nothing wrong with that stereotype because...facts show it is usually true.

Same for a situation like this. I would guarantee you that a higher percentage of shootings occur at clubs/bars/nightclubs frequented by black people OVER those that are frequented by mainly white people. That isn't racist...it is stereotyping, but I feel totally confident in the statement as well.

Nothing wrong with a stereotype if it usually holds true.

Note: For the record, I am only responding to your post...have not read this thread completely or many articles on the topic yet. Don't want to disrespect any who were innocently killed.

I see your point. Black people should hang out with white people more and white people should stop hanging out with black people.

[heathbates]

The Lindsey twins had their fair share of fun and parties, that I attended while in school, and we never had gun fire involved. And my roommates gf lived above Cap and Jap in college suites, when it was fun called college suites, and we partied A LOT and never had shots fired. No racism here, just a bit of bad company it seems.

[GH]

Originally Posted by heathbates

The Lindsey twins had their fair share of fun and parties, that I attended while in school, and we never had gun fire involved. And my roommates gf lived above Cap and Jap in college suites, when it was fun called college suites, and we partied A LOT and never had shots fired. No racism here, just a bit of bad company it seems.

Two or less is okay...hell even encouraged...as they usually bring their cool, swagger and soul with them - which tends to spice up the manila and vanila backdrop of any get together...especially when they start using slang or cracking jokes or doing dances involving their entire bodies...three or more is just asking for trouble with a capital 'N'...I meant 'T'...

[heathbates]

You read my sarcasm oh so well...

[GH]

Originally Posted by heathbates

You read my sarcasm oh so well...

Hi, my name is GH. Nice to meet you.

[Mick Chicken]

lots of stupid people...posting in this thread

[heathbates]

Originally Posted by GH

Hi, my name is GH. Nice to meet you.

I know who ya are...been lurking/posting my thoughts for 6 years now...Just like to chime in when necessary!!

[ColaCock]

Originally Posted by GH

I see your point. Black people should hang out with white people more and white people should stop hanging out with black people.

Not at all. I am not trying to encourage any kind of behavior like that- I don't think racism is acceptable, but I also don't think stereotyping is completely wrong; especially when the facts or statistics back it up.

Look, I really am sorry a certain percentage of the black race screws it up for the rest of them in regards to being stereotyped for certain activities or crimes...however, it goes both ways and there are a percentage of white people (or any race- I hate making things black/white) that screw it up as well.

Heaven forbid if a terrorist attack happens again by use of plane and the passenger list is released- when I see "Azil Ramsih-El Razwad and Utala Arshiekh", I am going to assume they were involved. I won't assume "Alex Covington and Jamal Peterson" were. Can't help society has programmed me that way, but I don't think it is racist. I would have never attacked or called Aziz and Utala "terrorists" because they were Middle Eastern before the event.

[GH]

Originally Posted by Mick Chicken

lots of stupid people...posting in this thread

I have found that stupid people do stupid things at a significantly higher rate than other groups. When stupid people do stupid things, sometimes the consequences of those action affect everyone in the vicinity, stupid people and other people alike. So we should probably stop hanging out in this thread.

[heathbates]

Originally Posted by ColaCock

Not at all. I am not trying to encourage any kind of behavior like that- I don't think racism is acceptable, but I also don't think stereotyping is completely wrong; especially when the facts or statistics back it up.

Look, I really am sorry a certain percentage of the black race screws it up for the rest of them in regards to being stereotyped for certain activities or crimes...however, it goes both ways and there are a percentage of white people (or any race- I hate making things black/white) that screw it up as well.

Heaven forbid if a terrorist attack happens again by use of plane and the passenger list is released- when I see "Azil Ramsih-El Razwad and Utala Arshiekh", I am going to assume they were involved. I won't assume "Alex Covington and Jamal Peterson" were. Can't help society has programmed me that way, but I don't think it is racist. I would have never attacked or called Aziz and Utala "terrorists" because they were Middle Eastern before the event.

Nice post C, miss ya bud haven't seen ya out in a while.

[GH]

Originally Posted by ColaCock

Not at all. I am not trying to encourage any kind of behavior like that- I don't think racism is acceptable, but I also don't think stereotyping is completely wrong; especially when the facts or statistics back it up.

Look, I really am sorry a certain percentage of the black race screws it up for the rest of them in regards to being stereotyped for certain activities or crimes...however, it goes both ways and there are a percentage of white people (or any race- I hate making things black/white) that screw it up as well.

Heaven forbid if a terrorist attack happens again by use of plane and the passenger list is released- when I see "Azil Ramsih-El Razwad and Utala Arshiekh", I am going to assume they were involved. I won't assume "Alex Covington and Jamal Peterson" were. Can't help society has programmed me that way, but I don't think it is racist. I would have never attacked or called Aziz and Utala "terrorists" because they were Middle Eastern before the event.

No I agree. We should use prejudices and stereotypes as early warning sytems to protect us against statistics. It just never sounds good when we say it out loud. So, logically, my statement that you quoted is probably not the worst idea afterall -sadly.

[ColaCock]

Originally Posted by heathbates

Nice post C, miss ya bud haven't seen ya out in a while.

yeah, I moved down to Tampa a year ago- probably why we haven't ran into each other! Really jealous of your experience at the baseball stadium recently!

[robgusc76]

Originally Posted by ColaCock

Not at all. I am not trying to encourage any kind of behavior like that- I don't think racism is acceptable, but I also don't think stereotyping is completely wrong; especially when the facts or statistics back it up.

Look, I really am sorry a certain percentage of the black race screws it up for the rest of them in regards to being stereotyped for certain activities or crimes...however, it goes both ways and there are a percentage of white people (or any race- I hate making things black/white) that screw it up as well.

Heaven forbid if a terrorist attack happens again by use of plane and the passenger list is released- when I see "Azil Ramsih-El Razwad and Utala Arshiekh", I am going to assume they were involved. I won't assume "Alex Covington and Jamal Peterson" were. Can't help society has programmed me that way, but I don't think it is racist. I would have never attacked or called Aziz and Utala "terrorists" because they were Middle Eastern before the event.

I think I know that guy. He's a black dude. ;)