Future QB Depth.

[The Octopus]

or maybe it's the fact that we have a QB coach dedicated to recruiting in Mangus. Spurrier seems like a good "closer" but probably lacks the energy/enthusiasm to chat all the prospects up. all in all.. it's probably all of the above. Anyways, the pieces are all falling into place and C2 seems to think QB talent in the southeast is only going to get better in the future, so Go Cocks!

[Flameout12]

Originally Posted by The Octopus

John Hunt held us back far more than I think anyone really realizes.

JH and David Reaves. People forget Reaves was QB coach & recruiting cord. and obviously not very good at either.
G.A. is the buffer between the QBs and SOS...and both G.A. and Shawn Elliott have had big influences over the playbook, while the former likely had none.
G.A. and Shawn both have made a big difference in recruiting, coaching and development of QBs and OL, and many elements of the overall offense.

[99 steamer Hit X]

Originally Posted by Spurticus

I'm still at a loss to understand why high ranked QBs (especially those
in or close to this area) have not wanted to come to SC to be coached
by one of the best QB coaches in the history of CFB. It does appear that
the recent spike in the success of the program has gotten the attention
of some of the best ones available now. Out of guys committed over
the last 3-4 years, and those we are targeting in the next 2-3 years,
Connor Shaw would be a guy you'd look at and say WTF ? ... However,
he's probably the top guy in that group for his study and work habits,
and a guy who just "Wants It" more. Both Mangus and Spurrier have
brought out the talent in him, and If they can get that same kind of
results from player in the future like Connor Mitch, and Brendon Nosovitch
and beyond, this could become a school that some of the top 4-5 star
QBs in the Country start putting on their list of schools to check out.

We are a running team that plays good Defense. JMO on why we haven't pulled in the big names. These kids now don't care/don't understand the impact of a Steve Spurrier tutorial for a college football career

[Yearofthegamecock]

I agree. These kids where still sucking there thumbs when spurrier was keep killing it at florida. I think we are sitting good at qb. Shaws finally three games last yr were amazing really. He really blossomed before our eyes last yr. See him having a great yr with the help of the rb's and the our d. Thompson has been getting some praise from spurrier during spring training, so thats reassuring. And it looks even better down the road with nosovitch and mitch.



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[Yearofthegamecock]

With that said, qb skill is important but it doesn't matter who's back there if you can't protect them. I know it's off topic and takes thread in a different direction. But we need to build off our o line and keep it strong and deep. when mitch takes over we'll have a five star qb protected by a five start o line.


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[biltazar]

I'm a big fan of SOS, so please don't jump to the conclusion that I am attempting to explain away Coach's success at Florida. But let's be honest, his system ushered in passing in the SEC at a time that a wide open passing game was pretty much relegated passing to places like BYU and Div 2 and Div 3 programs. His biggest passing successes came before anyone had ever heard of Hal Mumme, Mike Leach, Dana Halgorsen, et al. His biggest stats were piled up when his teams were an anomaly, much like wishbone teams were in the 70s. He had great athletes at WRs and QBs that could play his system, although his QBs were not system quarterbacks in the vain of those at places later like Texas Tech.

His QBs have not translated into the NFL, and he is notoriously hard and impatient with his signal callers. I am more surprised that you guys are so surprised that he has struggled to recruit top passers than I am that he had difficulty doing it.

[Shep]

Originally Posted by biltazar

I'm a big fan of SOS, so please don't jump to the conclusion that I am attempting to explain away Coach's success at Florida. But let's be honest, his system ushered in passing in the SEC at a time that a wide open passing game was pretty much relegated passing to places like BYU and Div 2 and Div 3 programs. His biggest passing successes came before anyone had ever heard of Hal Mumme, Mike Leach, Dana Halgorsen, et al. His biggest stats were piled up when his teams were an anomaly, much like wishbone teams were in the 70s. He had great athletes at WRs and QBs that could play his system, although his QBs were not system quarterbacks in the vain of those at places later like Texas Tech.

His QBs have not translated into the NFL, and he is notoriously hard and impatient with his signal callers. I am more surprised that you guys are so surprised that he has struggled to recruit top passers than I am that he had difficulty doing it.

I would say that your assessment is fair. However, I also think a lot of recruits are kids and don't know about history, or why a certain coach won, just that he did. Spurrier has big name recognition, a Heisman, and coached a heisman, that should be enough to pull in some top level qbs, and to an extent it has.

[Flameout12]

Originally Posted by biltazar

His QBs have not translated into the NFL, and he is notoriously hard and impatient with his signal callers. I am more surprised that you guys are so surprised that he has struggled to recruit top passers than I am that he had difficulty doing it.

Totally agree...and now he has someone else recruiting and mentoring his QBs for him. Things have changed and we need to give SOS credit for adapting. I still think the Chris Smelley saga did something to SOS.

[GamecockMastermind]

Originally Posted by Flameout12

Totally agree...and now he has someone else recruiting and mentoring his QBs for him. Things have changed and we need to give SOS credit for adapting. I still think the Chris Smelley saga did something to SOS.

Yeh.... I try to forget he even played here honestly.

[Kazak]

Originally Posted by Yearofthegamecock

With that said, qb skill is important but it doesn't matter who's back there if you can't protect them. I know it's off topic and takes thread in a different direction. But we need to build off our o line and keep it strong and deep. when mitch takes over we'll have a five star qb protected by a five start o line.


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I look forward to having Mitch in the fold, but no site has given him 5-stars. He's a 4-star guy, which indicates ample potential, but he will have to battle with both Thompson and Nosovitch (an underrated and overlooked Parade All-American) in order to "take over". After Shaw graduates, may the best man win the job.

[GamecockMastermind]

Originally Posted by Kazak

I look forward to having Mitch in the fold, but no site has given him 5-stars. He's a 4-star guy, which indicates ample potential, but he will have to battle with both Thompson and Nosovitch (an underrated and overlooked Parade All-American) in order to "take over". After Shaw graduates, may the best man win the job.

Kinda nice to have these kinds of QBs... where three of them can go head to head and play ball and no one has an idea who will win the job.

I hate to say it.. but after Shaw leaves... I don't see Strickland being in the mix at all.

[pantera17]

Strickland is a junior. So after shaw leaves he won't even be here. And he's not any good anyways.

[GamecockMastermind]

Honestly I doubt if we will ever see Strickland or Clifford take a snap this year.. or ever again

[Kazak]

Originally Posted by pantera17

Strickland is a junior. So after shaw leaves he won't even be here. And he's not any good anyways.

That's a pretty crappy comment about a player who has put in years of hard work as a walk-on for us. I, for one, appreciate Strickland's efforts for the program. And who knows, maybe he'll become an excellent coach down the road, like a GA Mangus (another QB who didn't play much in college).