Tight Ends

StackzOnThe'Boose · 11-04-2012, 01:52 PM

The tight end position is probably my most favorite to watch. I know we've recruited well at the tight end position over the years under Spurrier. But here is one of my discussion questions: If we have the pass catching talent at tight end, (records from these young men's high schools say that they can indeed catch) shouldn't we be using them a little every game for this function? I'm not sure, but it seems that Steve holds out on these types of play calls for just 'every now and then' situations. I'm a couch coach, but I feel he should throw in one or two plays like this a game to give the other team something to think about. You can do so many things with the TE once you've established him as a catching threat, ie - drawing at least one defender away from the ball and leaving a side of the field vulnerable for let's say: Shaw or Miles to run free for major yards? And if you're lucky and two are focussing on the TE, then maybe they'll leave a receiver streaking down the sideline unguarded? My vision. What are everyone else's thoughts?

Spurrier_Superior_One · 11-04-2012, 01:59 PM

Until Shaw decides he wants to go through progressions every single play instead of tucking and running at the first sign of pocket collapse it won't happen. We do need to get the TEs more involved over the next 3 games and really be ready for the bowl game. We just need Shaw to stay in the pocket just 1 or 2 more seconds and then it should happen.

CoverTwo · 11-04-2012, 02:02 PM

I'd be shocked if we didn't see a lot of the empty 2 TE sets the rest of the way. Used it quite a bit with some success against UT. That might be our best formation going forward.

sc455 · 11-04-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spurrier_Superior_One

Until Shaw decides he wants to go through progressions every single play instead of tucking and running at the first sign of pocket collapse it won't happen. We do need to get the TEs more involved over the next 3 games and really be ready for the bowl game. We just need Shaw to stay in the pocket just 1 or 2 more seconds and then it should happen.

did you not watch the ut game? the guy went through his progressions just fine.

you should have said, "until he does it more than a week"..you make it sound like he hasnt done it yet.

Rh Gamecock · 11-04-2012, 02:35 PM

I agree looks like the formation that should be used going forward but it was against tenn who allowed 48 against troy.

Cock Kool-Aid · 11-04-2012, 02:53 PM

I'm not a huge fan of empty sets. I like to have the rb run threat... But if Spurriers using it, he probably has a good reason.

ZenUSC · 11-04-2012, 06:06 PM

We have had to keep the TEs in because they are needed to block.

COCKYTALKIN · 11-05-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cock Kool-Aid

I'm not a huge fan of empty sets. I like to have the rb run threat... But if Spurriers using it, he probably has a good reason.

I don't like it either usually, but with Shaw I'm ok with it. They still have to respect him as a runner.

2four2Gamecock · 11-05-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spurrier_Superior_One

Until Shaw decides he wants to go through progressions every single play instead of tucking and running at the first sign of pocket collapse it won't happen. We do need to get the TEs more involved over the next 3 games and really be ready for the bowl game. We just need Shaw to stay in the pocket just 1 or 2 more seconds and then it should happen.

The TE can be the primary receiver on any given play, FYI

Goofyboy · 11-05-2012, 04:21 PM

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Until Shaw decides he wants to go through progressions every single play instead of tucking and running at the first sign of pocket collapse it won't happen. We do need to get the TEs more involved over the next 3 games and really be ready for the bowl game. We just need Shaw to stay in the pocket just 1 or 2 more seconds and then it should happen.

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The TE can be the primary receiver on any given play, FYI

Short, quick tight end throws would do wonders in loosening the box, getting Shaw into a comfortable rhythm, and draw coverage up to open the deep ball. In addition, we have 2 TE's who have WR speed while standing 6-5 and 6-6 and over 220. Either could take a missed tackle 30 yards, and Justice has shown his toughness in getting extra yards without the great speed. The TE should be the first look on numerous plays, especially when we want that positive 6 yard 1st down play or need that critical first down. If we beat them just past the front 7 early on, our running game will be better, and our speedy WR's will see less deep coverage from safeties. We've got the talent at TE, and it needn't be the 2nd or 3rd lok on the play. On sprint outs all three offer big targets and big blockers if Shaw decides to run.

SpockCock · 11-05-2012, 04:52 PM

Well, it seems to me that the two TE look is not ideal for the zone-read or QB draw. It's typically better to spread-out the defense, and thin out the box, when you run the ZR... which WAS our bread and butter. Secondly, when you have a running back like #21, I understand completely why you'd just use your 2-TE set to block and make running lanes. Now that #21's out, and shaw's shoulder is a nagging injury, I'm sure we'll see the HBC get a little more creative with the play calling. TE's will be more involved in the passing game from here on out.

Goofyboy · 11-05-2012, 10:44 PM

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Well, it seems to me that the two TE look is not ideal for the zone-read or QB draw.

We run some I. We might need to run more without Lattimore's power and pass blocking available. We also throw out of the shotgun formations.

uscsandstorm85 · 11-06-2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofyboy

We run some I. We might need to run more without Lattimore's power and pass blocking available. We also throw out of the shotgun formations.

I wish they would use the I formation more often.

Cocky2001 · 11-06-2012, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sc455

did you not watch the ut game? the guy went through his progressions just fine.

you should have said, "until he does it more than a week"..you make it sound like he hasnt done it yet.

What, one time in two years?

I hope you were being sarcastic.

Wiz Khalifa · 11-06-2012, 05:27 AM

Rory "Busta" Anderson is the guy. I've been on him ever since he stepped foot on campus. Dude has a big frame with the height to go along with it. Athletic and a good blocker. We gotta get the ball in his hands more. Hes a scoring machine. He would be my #1 option when emphasizing the entire passing game.

ReadR00ster · 11-06-2012, 08:52 AM

I dont' know what the OP is talking about, we have been throwing to our TE's a lot.

Goofyboy · 11-06-2012, 02:45 PM

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I dont' know what the OP is talking about, we have been throwing to our TE's a lot.

Lately. It should have been a bigger part all year.

Garnet 4 Life 81 · 11-06-2012, 10:12 PM

how about justice and busta at te. ace, adams, roland at wr. would love to see more of jerrell adams

StackzOnThe'Boose · 11-07-2012, 11:16 PM

I agree fully. Big guy - nice frame, great hands, just about a quick as they come. What I'm trying to say is that the TE position should indeed be a weapon. I've been watching the TE recruits come in one by one, height/size, etc. I'd say that half of them played 2 spots in HS, TE/WR with their stats coming in to the program. Something like that WOULD bring in WR/TE recruits as well as every other offensive position. Nothing is more exciting than watching a big tight end flare out into the flats, catch, and then make the other team hurt.

Garnet 4 Life 81 · 11-08-2012, 01:09 PM

look how the patriots use their te. we could do some of that.

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CoverTwo CockyTalk's Recruitnik Male Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 35,880 CockyCash: 101200	Re: Tight Ends I'd be shocked if we didn't see a lot of the empty 2 TE sets the rest of the way. Used it quite a bit with some success against UT. That might be our best formation going forward. __________________ Follow me on Twitter! @Ch4ncey As you walk down the fairway of life you must smell the roses, for you only get to play one round. - Ben Hogan

11-04-2012, 02:35 PM	#5
Rh Gamecock Two Deep Male Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rock hill Posts: 1,099 CockyCash: 200	Re: Tight Ends I agree looks like the formation that should be used going forward but it was against tenn who allowed 48 against troy. __________________

11-04-2012, 02:53 PM	#6
Cock Kool-Aid Banned Male Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Appalachian Trail Posts: 3,260 CockyCash: 500	Re: Tight Ends I'm not a huge fan of empty sets. I like to have the rb run threat... But if Spurriers using it, he probably has a good reason.

11-04-2012, 06:06 PM	#7
ZenUSC Starter Male Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lexington Posts: 1,301 CockyCash: 500	Re: Tight Ends We have had to keep the TEs in because they are needed to block.

11-04-2012, 01:52 PM	#1
StackzOnThe'Boose Conductor Male Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Chapin, SC Posts: 27 CockyCash: 500	Tight Ends The tight end position is probably my most favorite to watch. I know we've recruited well at the tight end position over the years under Spurrier. But here is one of my discussion questions: If we have the pass catching talent at tight end, (records from these young men's high schools say that they can indeed catch) shouldn't we be using them a little every game for this function? I'm not sure, but it seems that Steve holds out on these types of play calls for just 'every now and then' situations. I'm a couch coach, but I feel he should throw in one or two plays like this a game to give the other team something to think about. You can do so many things with the TE once you've established him as a catching threat, ie - drawing at least one defender away from the ball and leaving a side of the field vulnerable for let's say: Shaw or Miles to run free for major yards? And if you're lucky and two are focussing on the TE, then maybe they'll leave a receiver streaking down the sideline unguarded? My vision. What are everyone else's thoughts?

11-04-2012, 01:59 PM	#2
Spurrier_Superior_One Banned Male Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cola, The Other Gamecock City Posts: 22,968 CockyCash: 26397596	Re: Tight Ends Until Shaw decides he wants to go through progressions every single play instead of tucking and running at the first sign of pocket collapse it won't happen. We do need to get the TEs more involved over the next 3 games and really be ready for the bowl game. We just need Shaw to stay in the pocket just 1 or 2 more seconds and then it should happen.

11-05-2012, 04:52 PM	#11
SpockCock Redshirt Male Join Date: May 2009 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 210 CockyCash: 1250	Re: Tight Ends Well, it seems to me that the two TE look is not ideal for the zone-read or QB draw. It's typically better to spread-out the defense, and thin out the box, when you run the ZR... which WAS our bread and butter. Secondly, when you have a running back like #21, I understand completely why you'd just use your 2-TE set to block and make running lanes. Now that #21's out, and shaw's shoulder is a nagging injury, I'm sure we'll see the HBC get a little more creative with the play calling. TE's will be more involved in the passing game from here on out. __________________

11-06-2012, 05:27 AM	#15
Wiz Khalifa Blue Chip Male Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: SC Posts: 870 CockyCash: 200	Re: Tight Ends Rory "Busta" Anderson is the guy. I've been on him ever since he stepped foot on campus. Dude has a big frame with the height to go along with it. Athletic and a good blocker. We gotta get the ball in his hands more. Hes a scoring machine. He would be my #1 option when emphasizing the entire passing game.

11-06-2012, 08:52 AM	#16
ReadR00ster Banned Male Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 9,864 CockyCash: 1220	Re: Tight Ends I dont' know what the OP is talking about, we have been throwing to our TE's a lot.

11-06-2012, 10:12 PM	#18
Garnet 4 Life 81 Banned Male Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Boiling Springs Posts: 465 CockyCash: 500	Re: Tight Ends how about justice and busta at te. ace, adams, roland at wr. would love to see more of jerrell adams

11-07-2012, 11:16 PM	#19
StackzOnThe'Boose Conductor Male Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Chapin, SC Posts: 27 CockyCash: 500	Re: Tight Ends I agree fully. Big guy - nice frame, great hands, just about a quick as they come. What I'm trying to say is that the TE position should indeed be a weapon. I've been watching the TE recruits come in one by one, height/size, etc. I'd say that half of them played 2 spots in HS, TE/WR with their stats coming in to the program. Something like that WOULD bring in WR/TE recruits as well as every other offensive position. Nothing is more exciting than watching a big tight end flare out into the flats, catch, and then make the other team hurt.

11-08-2012, 01:09 PM	#20
Garnet 4 Life 81 Banned Male Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Boiling Springs Posts: 465 CockyCash: 500	Re: Tight Ends look how the patriots use their te. we could do some of that.

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