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Old 11-13-2012, 01:53 PM   #1
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...disqualified from playoffs. Plan to appeal.

Will they get the LR treatment or the Byrnes treatment?

http://www.abcnews4.com/story/200846...tball-playoffs
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saw that a few minutes ago and was pretty surprised


I wonder why? Does anyone know?
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I wonder what the heck is going on with the SCHSL. Who pee'd in their oatmeal?
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We are told the Goose Creek issue involves a player playing in his fifth season. No comment thus far from the school.
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The LR treatment is the absolute double standard due to what Byrnes got
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The LR treatment is the absolute double standard due to what Byrnes got
LR played an ineligible player. Byrnes dressed but did not play an ineligible player. The situations are not the same. No double standard
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LR played an ineligible player. Byrnes dressed but did not play an ineligible player. The situations are not the same. No double standard
from my understanding of the rules there is not a difference according to the rule book. dressing=competing in the game, so for the sake of fairness both situations should be ruled the same way.
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from my understanding of the rules there is not a difference according to the rule book. dressing=competing in the game, so for the sake of fairness both situations should be ruled the same way.
It happend for Byrnes in the regular season, not the playoffs. If they forfeited the regular season game, it would have affected their seeding for the playoffs, but not their elegability for the playoffs. For LR, if happend in the playoffs, ergo forfeit, erogo they are out. Major differences in circumstances.
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from my understanding of the rules there is not a difference according to the rule book. dressing=competing in the game, so for the sake of fairness both situations should be ruled the same way.
I admit I don't know the rule book and have no connection to any of these schools but common sense would say there is a difference in the situations. also Spring Valley was contacted about the Byrnes/Dorman issue and said they had no problem with the outcome and would not protest and that they had lost fair and square, so the SCHSL did not penalize Byrnes in the playoffs. I have no idea what Blue Ridge said about the Lower Richland situation. Maybe they demanded that they get the forfeit win.
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It happend for Byrnes in the regular season, not the playoffs. If they forfeited the regular season game, it would have affected their seeding for the playoffs, but not their elegability for the playoffs. For LR, if happend in the playoffs, ergo forfeit, erogo they are out. Major differences in circumstances.
It didn't happen in the playoffs for LR. The kid played garbage time in a 2 or 3 games during the season not the playoff. The only issue I had with the Byrnes thing was supposedly they email Dorman on Monday and got no response until Thursday. The response was Dorman would be contacting SCSHL which was supposedly done on Friday at 3 so there was no time to change the brackets. In actuality the Byrnes issue effected 8 teams because their seed would have dropped from 4-8 if I remember right
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They were notified that the squad had been declared ineligible for postseason play due an ineligible player on the roster.

Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2012/11/09/2...#storylink=cpy
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Just watched the Goose Creek players leave their locker room dressed out and headed out to the practice fields for practice. Some looked pretty upset, as in, this will be their last practice of the season.
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Am I to understand that a player is eligible for varsity ball for only 4 seasons? Back in the early 80s we had 2 guys on our high school team that played varsity ball beginning in the 8th grade. A lot of years have gone by and I guess the eligibility rules have been changed since then.
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It didn't happen in the playoffs for LR. The kid played garbage time in a 2 or 3 games during the season not the playoff. The only issue I had with the Byrnes thing was supposedly they email Dorman on Monday and got no response until Thursday. The response was Dorman would be contacting SCSHL which was supposedly done on Friday at 3 so there was no time to change the brackets. In actuality the Byrnes issue effected 8 teams because their seed would have dropped from 4-8 if I remember right
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"I have reviewed my e-mail records from last Monday and find no such e-mail, and I did not receive a phone call from anyone at Byrnes on Monday," Harrell said via e-mail on Monday. "The first e-mail that I received with the transfer student being mentioned was on Wednesday, Nov. 7 at 9:28 a.m. Nowhere on this e-mail does it mention that this athlete had played or participated on the JV or varsity team against us. I found out he had played against us on the JV team on Wednesday afternoon by doing some checking with our coaches, and I didn't find out that he suited up in the varsity game until Friday evening about 11 p.m."
Bentley's e-mail to Harrell asked whether the player in question had been cleared.
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Am I to understand that a player is eligible for varsity ball for only 4 seasons? Back in the early 80s we had 2 guys on our high school team that played varsity ball beginning in the 8th grade. A lot of years have gone by and I guess the eligibility rules have been changed since then.
Yea this is what I was wondering as well. When I played high school ball we had a few kids that were in 8th grade playing on the varsity squad.
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LR's athletic director was on radio this morning. He said the kid played this year in garbage time and the paperwork was his fault.
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